Xbox 720, PS4 Graphics Could Get Close To Avatar's Quality, Says Geomerics

Gaming Blend "The new benchmark in visual fidelity is no longer Crysis. No, instead, across all forms of digital and cinematic media the benchmark is now James Cameron's Avatar. With that said, AMD has already mentioned that the next gen Xbox could produce Avatar-like graphics and the co-founder of Geomerics has followed in AMD's footsteps claiming that lighting capabilities could hit that benchmark as well."

[Tolkoto]

This is like when they said the PS2 would look like Toy Story.

[Hatsune-Miku]

I can't wait for the ps4.

With Kinect 2.0 and what Microsoft has been doing this gen with Kinect they won't have the amount of exclusive games or software Sony will have. Plus I know that they'll implement the fee for xbl again so I'm looking forward to ps4 way more. I'll get an xbox 720 but I don't expect much.

To some some Microsoft and Sony are equal with what they offer in ps3 and xbox 360 but to logical gamers who likes quality games and new IPs, Sony PlayStation 3 is the best console available. In reality I can logically deduce that because of this gen and previous ones that Sony will be way better with the ps4 than Microsoft offering the next xbox

[Yangus]

Xbox 720 and PS4 Graphics!

Not only PS4.

[tehpees3]

Exactly what I've been saying the whole time. I can see Microsoft making big mistakes next generation. The chances are they will be the only ones charging for online gaming (unless Sony make a fee mandatory (unlikely)). They are taking the same route Nintendo were and despite Nintendo showing they learned a lesson by providing core games like Mass Effect and Assassin's Creed people keep insisting they will have the only casual system.

If you want a console without any of these other input devices PS4 is the way to go. If Wii U is a casual system then what is 720? How is 720 any different when that uses Kinect? What makes that "hardcore" and Wii U not? Sorry but if your blasting Wii U you need to get the facts in front of you first. Microsoft is taking the exact same route. If Wii U is a casual console then so is the next Xbox. If the next Xbox is a "hardcore" system then so is the Wii U.

My definition of the terms is
casual = mini game or quick play games which get boring after 5 minutes
hardcore = games with depth that you can enjoy a time and time again.

[BlindGuardian]

they might look similar in the same sense that Black and Resident Evil 4 and God of War 2 sort of looked like next gen back in the day

but Avatar has too many info running to be done on real time yet

[Peppino7]

Ps3 has already reached avatar quality.

[solar]

@ above

Only when it's playing the Avatar blu ray.....

[kabala]

My fanboy senses are off the charts right now. Calm down they both will provide quality games & experiences for their collective audiences.

[kabala]

Sorry double post

[jmac53]

If you are logically deducing based on the PS3 and 360 generation than you have to agree that the PS4 will suck for the first few years and then get better in the last few years.

[sikbeta]

It's not gonna happen, unless 599 US Dollars all over again (or+)...

[Muffins1223]

Hahahah yea right,i dont even think a gtx 680 could run this let alone something that's barley half as powerful as gtx680(next gen consoles)

[Convas]

You're like a broken record.

I can't wait for the PS4 because it'll be betterer *skquernz* I can't wait for the PS4 because it'll be betterer *skquernz* I can't wait for the PS4 because it'll be betterer *skquernz*

We get it. Now go back to waiting for that Sony PR cheque to clear ...

[guitarded77]

We're a long way off from being able to render Avatar visuals on the fly. I hope to see it one day, but it's just not realistic right now. If it could be done (which I don't think it's possible right now), the consoles would be insanely priced.

[MAJ0R]

Who ever made that statement needs to really go and research just how much it takes to get Avatar to look so realistic. It actually takes a ton of processing power to just render one single frame in Avatar (as in a very expensive super computer.)

It takes minutes to just render one frame. To say that next gen consoles will even come close to Avatar visuals is hilarious. Not even the PC could render Avatar in real time. It's not realistic.

[baodeus]

@tehpees3

casual = past time / no dedication
Hardcore = dedication / put a lot of effort into improving your game

Practically any game can be hardcore/casual, it is just how you go about it. Example, dance dance revolution. Would you think it is hardcore if people actually have competition? Would you think Tetris is hardcore because that gamegod from Japan sure spend his lifetime playing it to perfection.

it is all about dedication.

[ChrisW]

Can today's top tier $1,000 GPUs do Avatar-like graphics? No? Then don't believe it!!!

[saladthieves]

As much as I would like the next gen consoles to have Avatar quality graphics in real time, I'm pretty sure it would cost a fortune especially if we're talking about console prices here!

[meetajhu]

ROFL! Then PC will be 10x better in every possible way!

[DeadlyFire]

Microsoft likely knows they have nothing up their sleeves. So they will put out some IPs for launch next gen. Like they did last gen. They did Perfect Dark one time and then it never showed up again. A similar action will likely take place with another IP somewhere down the line.

All the promises of last gen are probably going to start taking shape for Microsoft and Sony. Microsoft will add keyboard/mouse support, Windows 8, and Cross platform gaming as an excuse to put XBL fee out there for people to pay. While Sony will add cross game chat, build a better browser, and a few other things.

Sony will likely do what they always do. Invite all to develop for their platform. Make some quality exclusive sequels. Maybe say something about those elusive PS3 titles that were supposed to exist like Eight Days/Getaway titles on PS4 maybe? That and well Agent details? Just maybe. :)

As far as graphics go. PC will always be king. In 2013/2014 it will be kinda close for consoles vs. PC graphics, but somewhere along 2014/2015 line something will trump them.

Nothing really has produced graphics like Avatar on todays tech. Not unless they are putting something like OpenRL into the platforms. Allowing for Raytracing without a hiccup or that is the supposed aim of it. :)

The standard max level graphics tech that is present can give us quality PS4/XB3 titles like Metro Last Light at maxed out PC quality graphics on a console. That is impressive, but not Avatar like graphics.

[MxRBrobaFett]

I like how everyone of these articles turns into a flame war against Xbox. Get over yourself tool

[zebramocha]

That wasn't stated by Sony,it was some dude at Ms,it's a cnet article the commentor was made by a guy name blackley.

[Dark_Overlord]

Its hilarious how not many people know that :D (Or choose to ignore that fact)

[GearSkiN]

more like next gen will look like toy story 3. avatar my ass...

[ninjabake]

If it even reaches toy story 3 level I'd be shocked. Name any graphics cards that are producing pixar-level graphics. And then give a reasonable price. It just isn't gonna happen, not next gen. The games will undoubtedly look sharper, clearer, have better shading and better AA and bump mapping but were almost at the point of diminishing returns. Having most games in 1080p/60fps is a big leap IMO.

[peowpeow]

Any gpu playing TF2 :D I'm not serious, but damn that game on max settings is sexy smooth and the artstyle is just great!

[namyrb]

Most people don't understand that it can take years (collectively using huge render farms) for a single CG film to render out completely. These films are rendered in 4K resolution for theater projection... Don't see how the quality can come close.

[Kurt Russell]

^ Not 4K res yet broski. Our farms getting on a bit however rendering 1920X1280 with a well lit/complicated scene can take a few hours per frame.

[Anon1974]

Fantastic. I can't wait to see how many developers will crumble under the resource drain trying to produce games that look like Avatar. What will a game have to sell to make up those development costs?

I've said it before and I'll say it again, new hardware doesn't instantly equal better games. The bottleneck is the developer and the resources available to them. Otherwise, every game would be an Uncharted or a Gears of War, or every PC game would look like Battlefield 3 maxed out. It's not just hardware that holds devs back.

[Timesplitter14]

They pretty much pull these facts out of their asses all the time

[Bathyj]

58% of statistics are made up on the spot.

[johnsonbat]

I heard it was more like 72%.

[Jazz4108]

Rephrase..like when sony said the ps2 would look like toy story. I remember all the things sony said about the emotion engine and then the ps3 with giant enemy crabs and pre rendered cut scenes being passed off as in game.

[Azmatik]

You have to remember back in the day when ps3 launched multi-core processors and such like that especially the cell were amazing and actually still is amazing. And back then i believe even PCs only had quad-cores i think

[MrBeatdown]

That would be an interesting way to rephrase it. Mainly because I couldn't find any quotes from Sony comparing the PS2 directly to Toy Story.

Perhaps you're thinking of this...

"'One of the basic premises of the Xbox is to put the power in the hands of the artist,' Blackley said, which is why Xbox developers 'are achieving a level of visual detail you really get in 'Toy Story.''"

http://news.cnet.com/2100-1...

Or maybe this...

"Gates said the 3-D chips in the Xbox would be three times faster than anything on the market and offer nearly unlimited graphical visuals. 'We're approaching the level of detail seen in Toy Story 2,' he said, referring to the computer-generated kids film from Disney/Pixar."

http://www.wired.com/scienc...

[Ben_Grimm]

@Mr. Beatdown

love how you always have an Xbox quote article ready to go any time anyone mentions something about Sony. Always gotta be ready for damage control, right?

http://n4g.com/news/1073858...

[MrBeatdown]

@Ben

Swing and a miss.

I was disproving something, and helping our poor misguided friend Jazz determine the REAL origin of the Toy Story reference.

I see you have a problem with factual, on topic information being presented, and it being presented in response to a person who is known to troll in the name of everything Xbox, even going so far in this case as to make false claims. Accuracy is a problem for you?

I find it interesting that you can't separate that from me calling out nukeitall for bringing up the PS2 disc read error and lawsuit time and time again (in fact, he did it two separate times in that same article), and in the comment you linked to, doing so purely because someone dared mention RROD in an article discussing Microsoft's hardware issues.

I was correcting something here. nukeitall was not correcting anyone in that article. Nor was what he said even relevant. I know you want to imply some hypocrisy because what I say bothers you, but what I brought up about Xbox was relevant to Jazz's comment, unlike nukeitall's.

What I find really interesting is that you tried to go after me in that article to, but failed to follow up when I replied. You've done that a couple times now when replying to me. Funny you still take issue with what I said there, and it made such an impression on you that you remember it from a week ago, but yet you couldn't be bothered to actually back up what you said when I replied, despite having free bubbles. And yet, here you are, bring it up again, as if my comment here or there was unjustified, and using a paraphrased quote from me addressing a comment that was out of place, even though my comment here isn't. Talk about grasping at straws.

[MrBeatdown]

Double post

[edgeofsins]

When people say have close to that quality most of the time they mean it seemingly looks like that in the game. But obviously more then likely you will notice that it is not.

[Hayabusa 117]

Err, yes, especially after they've given you such a high bar to compare to. You end up only noticing how much it DOESN'T look like Avatar.

[Tsar4ever01]

Damn straight, How many time people is going to talk this crap! Avatar is a digitalized motion Picture mixed with live video, done with the highest version of OPEN_GL graphics tech money can buy. How stupid people is going to assume video-games going to look anywhere NEAR as good as AVATAR, next-gen or the next-gen after. It can't be done, computers don't YET have the CPU & GPU processing power and when it does, it's gonna cost at least 3-4 times as much as john carmack new 3D "Oculus Rift" visors tech.

[Bloodraid]

What the hell are rambling on about? The latest version they could have worked with when producing Avatar was 3.2, which is unlikely seeing as it came out only a few months before the film released.

With the exception of Geometry (OpenGL 3.2) and Tessellation (OpenGL 4.0) shaders, and the deprecation of the old API (OpenGL 3.0), OpenGL has been pretty much stagnant in it's capabilities since OpenGL 2.0, which made it's debut in late 2004.

Avatar, like any movie, was pre-rendered and took minutes to hours to render a single frame with multiple computers. Why you seem to think it was rendered in real time is beyond me.

Also, unless there's some incredible leap in technology sometime soon, we're not going to be seeing anything remotely close to Avatar running in real time for decades. And whenever we do get to that level of technology, it's not going to be much more expensive than current PCs.

[GuyThatPlaysGames]

The graphics will only look similar to a mid-grade gaming pc. Everyone needs to get outta their mind that these games will have CGI quality visuals.

[gluv65]

I don't know why this quote is always contributed to PS2 and Sony. When in fact, it is a Bill Gates Quote in reference to the original XBOX.

[Syntax-Error]

Both systems will produce amazing qualities. I think it will come down to online capabilities that will separate the two. Sony has as many good features as 360, so I think if you buy one or the other you've made a great choice. I agree that XBL has to be cheaper, but I understand why they charge. They do offer a lot of content. PSN has the right idea, you should be able to play online for free, but if you want discounted content, early demos, and freebies...you have to become a member.

[Hayabusa 117]

Hey, I wuz gona say de exact same ting!...how'd u do dat??? :O

[FanboyPunisher]

it never will, otherwise games are going to cost 150+ mil.

[Rumor]

Didn't hip hop gamer sing the same song?

[MadMen]

we go through this EVERY time,

"it could"

unfortunately we all know nextgen never does or will.

blah to these comments and articles

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Xbox 720 and PS4's graphics could look like Avatars CGI. How many times were we told that games will look CG in a new gen of consoles? Maybe it could happen for real this time but I'm not holding my breath.

[WeskerChildReborned]

I would expect PC to look like CG quality before Consoles do.

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

If they can make gta4 go from this
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
to this on a gtx 460(released july 2010) card
http://www.youtube.com/watc... hd remake!
then I wonder what pc mods will looks like next gen?

on top off that gta 4 is a bad pc port.

Pc is already read for cg no doubt.
They just have to wait for something.

But more important than graphics I want user created content to continue be the way of the future.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Gildarts]

Nextgen consoles will definitely be cg quality but I doubt it will get on par with avatar hardware wise but I can see it happening through the cloud.

[GearSkiN]

i think the game would look even better as the nex gen system gets older like what it is now.. halo 3 compare to halo 4 is way different. or uncharted to uncharted 3 wayyy different.

[Eternalb]

What a load of hogwash

[RememberThe357]

He's talking about lighting. But he makes a fare point; it could be on Avatar level but with everything else developers have to run on the hardware it's not likely.

I'm sure we'll get some really photo realistic game though.

[Old McGroin]

Just bring it already!

[Hazmat13]

might happen, well maybe exclusive you all seen how good xbox and PS3 exclusives go. before they talked about how the first uncharted was using nearly the full power of the PS3 and now look at Uncharted 3. same goes for xbox on Halo. compare the first exclusive for the new PS4 and Xbox720 to the last and there will be a difference. might be a CGI lookingish but idk. do you get what im saying? sometimes i get scattered. lol

[cervantes99]

This would be nice, but the development cost to make a game with graphics of that quality would be astronomical.

Get ready for $100 games - jk!

[AllroundGamer]

yeah sure, as a cutscene in mp4 format :p

[beerkeg]

Lol. The crazy things that people say amazes me.

[geth1gh]

Just flat up bullshit.

It's already a known fact that cream of the crop pc specs to date are better than next gen hardware specs. Yes they will be able to push the hardware to the bounds since it will be universal. Still even games like witcher 2 and battlefield 3 maxed out look fantastic, they are no where near avatar level. We are still years away from that level.

Even so, no way they will sell a piece of hardware at console prices that would do the same as the hundreds of thousands it cost to render what was in that movie. Also you would need it all in a real time virtual environment so it would actually have to render faster, much faster.

So yea, LOL.... Somebody likes trolling the net.

[BitbyDeath]

'It's already a known fact that cream of the crop pc specs to date are better than next gen hardware specs.'

Can you send me the hardware specs you have for nextgen consoles?

[geth1gh]

First and foremost, it's easy logic. Your talking about a $400-600 console. They can pack a punch but no matter what they won't be able to pack in the same as a $3000+ pc today.

If these consoles are to launch by the end of 2013 they have had to already make their hardware selection or narrowed it down to only a few choices. They would have had to do this from possibilities from CURRENT technologies, therefore making it comparable to pc's today. We have seen proof out on the interwebs already...

http://www.digitalspy.com/g...

While there is no way to confirm 100%, I think all the parts easily add up, and the fact that it was bought for $20k is easily the icing on the cake.

4gb of ram or less (dev kit has at least twice as much)

a 8 core cpu (compared to 12 virtual core cpus out, and even 24 virtual cpus possible with dual cpu motherboards)

AMD 6000 series gpu? A single gtx 680 performs almost twice as much.

I'm sorry, but it simply comes down to this. You get what you paid for. Technology moves fast but not that fast, especially if the new consoles are on the horizon.

[BitbyDeath]

Here's the rumoured PS4 spec sheet.

http://www.picvalley.net/u/...

If true then PS4 would be better.

Who knows what we'll get though, nothing is fact.

[geth1gh]

I haven't seen that before but looks awfully legit.

That would be awesome if they could pull that off, but I would be extremely surprised if they could do it even with their price point fo $600 at last launch.

[Lovable]

No mention of Wii U? Of course ONLY 720 and PS4 can achieve that

[Ares84HU]

We know what games look like on the WiiU and they are about the same as PS3 and 360....so yeah, no mention of WiiU because there is no point.

[beerkeg]

PS4 and and 720 shouldn't be mentioned either as they won't be able to do it.

EDIT:@Ares84HU

Clearly you didn't get my point. The next generation of consoles from either manufacturer will not be capable of, or close to the quality of visuals from Avatar.

That doesn't need a crystal ball or a 'Who knows?' attitude. You just use your common sense and your grasp of reality.

[Ares84HU]

@beerkeg

Probably not. But as long as we haven't seen a single game in action on the 720 and PS4 anything is possible. Who knows? Maybe they will pull it off. Let's wait and see. I personally highly doubt it.

But clearly, you didn't get my point.

[nevin1]

The link isnt working for me. So what is AMD basing this on?

[Npugz7]

Would be awesome but I highly doubt it!

[TenkoTAiLS]

This is the biggest load of crap, current PC's can't even push Avatar quality CGI on a single rig. And these people are trying to say the next gen of consoles could? When consoles use cheaper and less current gpu's and cpu's to keep things affordable to the console consumer. I would love to see them try, I really would. The only thing that's going to come close as someone else mentioned are the cutscenes. Blizzard and Square do those beautifully, but in game, not a chance.

[Qrphe]

We've seen The Elemental Demo and Agni's Philosophy running on GTX680 video cards showing already CG quality.

But we're not going to see the level of Avatar yet. Just look at FF Spirits Within and see how long it took for a retail PC rig to run that type of graphics.

[DEATHxTHExKIDx]

Aslong as 720 and PS4 dont screw up their launches it should be all good. I hope that microsft and sony both learned something from their launches this gen.

[BitbyDeath]

Obviously they're talking character models as Avatar isn't all CGI.

In which case we really aren't that far off from it now. Even Heavenly Sword would be pretty close.

http://images.psxextreme.co...

[taquito]

expect 2 year old gaming pc quality graphics from ps4/720 and you will be about on par, granted, it may not be the monumental leap that many are expecting but it will be a vast improvment over current gen ps3/360.

[atticus14]

I know this article seems a little optimistic, but there is definitely hope. High Quality Textures and nice lighting systems will go a long way towards that goal in general. Despite owning a 360 and ps3 im almost exclusively a PC gamer but games like Red Dead redemption are incredible looking for the hardware they are given to make that with.

Just adding Higher quality textures will do wonders for the next gen consoles because all it really costs is more Ram and Bandwidth which should hopefully be cheap enough now that they will include a decent amount. Then you can add all this new processing power to push more objects in game and realistic physics and a multitude of other things.

Console gamers have a lot to look forward to, it just might take awhile for the AAA game makers to finish a game that will blow your socks off.

[vortis]

Well said.

And yeah, a lot of games would look significantly better without blasting budgets just by allowing for higher resolution textures, models that aren't downscaled for LOD purposes and unrestricted physics.

In some ways I can't wait, but then I keep thinking about today's gaming climate and how people like Activision and EA just kind of complain about budgets but milk the same ideas, over and over again while losing money.

[sdplisken]

my dream for PS4's launch lineup:

MGS5
Demon's Souls 2
Uncharted 4
God of War 4
GT6
Killzone 4 (or new ip)
InFamous 3 (or new ip)
The Last of Us 2
"unannounced quantic dream title"
"unannounced media molecule title"
team ico's next game (or the last guardian)
Agent (whats with this game?)
FF vs 13 (???)

newer revamped interface
dualshock 3 overhaul (attract the fps crowd, imo ds3 is perfect)
Keep basic online free, but keep ps plus and make it even more attractive
make ps4 much easier to develop for (no brainer)

if sony does this next gen they will bury the competition

[peowpeow]

Outta here with that irrelevant babble

[linkratos]

The odds of that happening are the same as Wii U launching with all of:
Zelda
3D Mario
Metroid Prime 4
Xenoblade 2
3D Pokemon RPG
Donkey Kong Country Returns 2
PIkmin 3
Star Fox
Mother 4
2D Mario
and Eternal Darkness 2

not happening. if any company could miraculously have all their big IPs ready for launch they would wipe the competition.

[Tontus]

Games will NEVER look as good as Avatar and Toy Story 3 which is very underrated graphically due to it's cartoony aesthetic, it's absolutely stunning looking. One day games might come fairly close but they'll never be good enough to be of film quality. Even the absolute best looking games today don't look nearly as good as Toy Story 2 from 1999.

[nepdyse]

Haha sure it will.

[DivineAssault]

cloud gaming will allow both companies to achieve this level of quality.. But your gonna have to pay if u wanna play using it.. The systems will have a decent amount of power in em but this nx gen is going to change alot of things.. some for the better & some for the worse

[sway_z]

Avatar quality visuals next gen LMFAO!!

At best these consoles will mimic the style of Avatar's visuals.....but if you're expecting 100 million dollar plus visuals in your games next gen....you're delusional

* Get a grip dreamers ...and wait at least 20 years or 2 more cycles of hardware beyond next gen for Avatar visuals....remember N64 claims of Jurassic Park (1990's)visual technology based hardware...what did it equate to....? nada, 22 years later and even top range PC's can't replicate Jurassic Park visuals!!!

Don't be fooled, next gen will look impressive....just remember the PR machine spins ;/

[LAWSON72]

every single one of these articles like this are just ignorant... seriously do these people who come up with these articles know anything about tech. if consoles are to come out in a year or two they would have to out perform gpus that cost $600+ because those gpus couldny even handle avatar graphics. And what about cloud gaming thats right devs are not going to put money into something until many ppl have really fast internet that can handle streaming video games in hd that look like avatar and do it with no problems. ya not going to happen keep dreaming

[vortis]

Sony already bought Gaikai...a cloud gaming service.

Just sayin'.

[Ryto]

I have 60mb Internet, and OnLive was unplayable. I don't think cloud gaming will go mainstream for quite a number of years, at least 10.

[mamotte]

..and production will only cost...

[urwifeminder]

20 years maybe lol next gen avatar ha ha ha.

[Rayansaki]

PC's don't get even remotely close to avatar graphics in real time yet, and there's 0 chance that the 720 and PS4 will be more powerful than the current top hardware, so this is retarded.

[DragoonsScaleLegends]

Read the article it says the lighting effects may become similar not the graphics of the characters or scenery. 15+ years imo for pc graphics to reach avatar or even remotely close. Consoles 30+ years. Or it may never happen.

[stragomccloud]

hahaha. no.

[Game3s]

Avatar used multiple super computers to render, I highly doubt the next xbox or ps4 will be that strong.

[Unztayble]

this is like when they said Xbox 360 was at Shrek level graphics. Not even close.

[calis]

The only thing I've seen that looks close to this is the CGI scenes from A Crack In Time looking Pixar quality.

[Horny Melon]

Please tell me everyone's memory hasn't faded over the past 7 years. This generation was nothing but a graphics upgrade from the last. We don't need pretty graphics we need

Better AI
Better Gameplay
More Enemies on Screen

Graphics is the last thing we need.

[KingKevo]

This is really stupid. If you know how long it tooke them to render just one single frame for AVATAR you'd never say something as stupid as that. But yet again, it's creating hype and setting expectations high, we should be used to that by now...

[SITH]

Yeah right.

[ThatHappyGamer]

Avatar level graphics is Not gonna happen. Ill be happy if the next gen could run MP games with 32Player/lobby @ 1080p & 60FPS.

[taquito]

next gen consoles will be like a gaming rig from 2 years ago, 1080p, 60 frames, bf3 ultra level graphics with 4x aa

not bad

don't expect 4k with 16x aa and you'll be ok

[sak500]

Jim Cameron take note. Next time don't spend 100s of million on computer hardware. For Avatar 2 just buy 2 x 720 and 2 x ps4. You'll be good to go..

Avatar? we haven't reached toy story level yet.

[Lulz_Boat]

i'm happy with the last of us quality with my PS3.

[ZeekQuattro]

Not by next gen. That's very wishful thinking. Maybe in 10 years when the PS5 comes out. lmao

[Jirachi]

1.This is a lie even a top of the line pc can't reproduce atm
2.Even if it were possible the system would need some much horse power that 599.99 would be cheap compared to the price they would cost.

[Mr Tretton]

If consoles could get there, then PC would already be there. And that's a no. So, NO. You're a f*cking moron if you think other wise. Next gen will be crippled.

[Agent_hitman]

Anyone can dream...

[chukamachine]

It's not bs guys.

PC has been ready for along time, it just needs the push in the right area's. Avatar is a film that has computer graphics.

Games are all computer graphics, and that gpu is doing alot. but engines need to be alot better.

I don't they are far off tbh.

Trouble with pc, there isn't enough people pushing it.

Best around is crysis,2,BFBC2,BF3 etc.

Deadspace should look hundred times better for a closed environment game. Should look cgi.

Dark souls on PC if done by the right people could have looked amazing. But it's a poor port and needs a fix by a modder to make it look decent.

Unreal engine gets games out of the door and looks decent in some area's, others not so much.

Personally i'd like to see Uncharted 4 maxed out on PS4/PC.

I trust what ND does. Graphics,Animation,action,phys ics.

[stragomccloud]

I can't how many fanboys jump on to this and believe it!!! I mean... really.... if you want to see what next gen looks like, look at PCs. Consoles will never surpass PCs, because consoles are static. PCs are ever changing.

[fourthpersonview]

Both may produce good looking games but X360 will still win that generation.

Why?

Games would be easier to develop there.

[weyw]

next avatar picture gonna be fully interactive expirience in your flats people. if you belive it i would too. just blow up this hope, make hypes real & pay your bills ;).chuck norris pls help us believe.
J. Canerom

[Biohazard8860]

Impossible

[Apex13]

Consoles have not even surpassed PC's, which has not surpassed tech being used in the movies so how the F do you work out consoles will look like avatar? Consoles leaps have been compared to every new movie animation since the days of the ps2/toystory. Anyway it's better then when you idiots stated the ps2 chip powered the worlds most sophisticated missile LMFAO.

how about getting characters to look and move realistically in game and not cut scenes and then talk. No rush lol

[BX81]

Why are people saying they doubt it? It didn't say the exact same quality but something close to. Maybe I read it wrong?

[Heavenly King]

Considering how The Last of Us and Ground Zeroes look, yeah I think that it is possible considering that Avatar CGI scenes are not that impressive. I think Blizzard CGIs are way more outstanding.

[LostDjinn]

Oh God! Seriously? How about we wait till an announcement of the actual products or something before we start with the BS.

Just a thought.

[NobleRed]

Bullshit. Only hardware that can achieve this kind of graphics (now) are high end pcs.

A normal thinking brain knows that consoles will lack in terms of graphic quality compared to pcs.

[Gorbenshore]

I wish!

[for we are many]

This is unrealistic I believe, given that the highest spec'ed PCs aren't close to that level even with multi-thousand dollar setups. Besides, trying to achieve this in the near future would be a financial suicide, and in my book, totally unnecessary. I still enjoy today's graphics and I think they're not yet maximized plus trying this would drive smaller developers and publishers to extinction.

[hano]

People, you should stop believing BS. It ain't happening anytime soon.

[PooEgg]

I don't care about graphics, just make them dependable, cool to the touch, and easier to program for. Pretty graphics are great, but reliability, and great game play is more important.

[GiantFriendlyCrab]

avatar as a movie sucked anyway, and it look fantastic fake. Crysis looks more real to me,

[ATi_Elite]

Really?

Wake me up when they get close to Crysis PC Graphics then we'll talk about Avatar!