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Kotaku: Valve Is Bringing Steam To Your TV Today. Watch Out, Consoles.

Today, Valve will launch the beta of Big Picture mode, a version of Steam designed for your television. That's right. The de facto central hub of PC gaming is now designed to run while you're lounging in your living room—and with a controller, no less. I've tried out Big Picture. It's sleek, intuitive, and groundbreaking in several ways.

by Jason Schreier

ThatDamnGeordie4239d ago

"watch out, consoles"..... really? common you have to get real here consoles arnt going anywhere for alongtime yet. Im a console and pc gamer so i do use steam and yes its a great platform but i do prefer XBL, then you look at the games for instance steam does have a huge choice but they dont have all the huge AA exclusives consoles have, although their choice of indie games is rather nice :P.

Basically in my opinion can stream compete in the home with consoles? yes, will it replace consoles? no.

s45gr324239d ago

This upcoming gen is really the end of videogame consoles. From a business standpoint is expensive nowadays to sell a piece of hardware at a loss.
Now Big Picture Mode will not replace consoles but it will open up the PC gaming market even more. With this is possible that some not all console gamers may switch to a gaming PC.

BDSE4239d ago

It's been the end of consoles since the 90's. First it was laptops, then mobiles, then handhelds, then browsers, then smartphones, then cloud, then iPad, then Steam.... basically it'll be the end of consoles for as long as sites need hits.

In other words, they aren't going anywhere.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4239d ago (Edited 4239d ago )

Try to play Planetside 2 or primal carnage on your console.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Xbl and AAA = 90% third party.

Even xbl is not exclusive to xbox.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Xbox can't give you free multiplayer or free cloud saving or free dlc that is on steam & steam workshop content. You even have to pay for Minecraft skins. Why pay for twitter, Bing & youtube?

They killed killer instinct, promot kinect as there there #1 & added perks to there best (competitive) shooter.

They are trying to compete with apple market and nintendo's casual market at the same time so imagine where core gaming will be for xbox in the future.

MS <3? O_o

Once the next red dead comes to pc and it will xbox is not needed. Unless you like the repetitive rotation of the same games.

Not saying you shouldn't prefer xbl but I am just saying it's obviously not the best service and yet they charge for it.

the worst4239d ago

Planetside 2 or primal carnage both trash

Letros4239d ago

Planetside 2 is incredible, so much fun, never seen a game of this scale before.

ThatDamnGeordie4239d ago (Edited 4239d ago )

i didnt mention PS3 aswell but look at the amount of exclusives on there which arnt on the steam platform.

also you say "try to play XXXX on my console" and then go on to bash xbox more trying to imply im a console gamer?

i have a i5 3750k @ 4.6ghz on air

soon to be 16GB of 1600mhz

and a gtx 680 OC?

MAD BRO?

Outside_ofthe_Box4239d ago (Edited 4239d ago )

PC games basically consist of FPS, MMOs, and RTS games. The real single player story driven content are present on consoles. That is what the PC lacks and always will lack because PC gamers are in general multiplayer oriented and therefore pirate (something all PC gamers should be hanged for doing) single player games because they'll "only play it once." Read Dead won't be on the PC or at least it won't be released at the same time as consoles. R* and Take Two aren't foolish so you can kiss your "Once the next red dead comes to pc and it will xbox is not needed." pipe dream good bye.

Consoles have nothing to worry about.

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DeadlyFire4238d ago (Edited 4238d ago )

I can easily see Valve put together a version of Linux + Hardware setup and launch it as mid-High range parts at a decent price.

Fixed hardware question makes me wonder if Valve wants to put out a Linux ARM platform. I don't believe ARM will truely be taken seriously as a PC platform until end 2013 or whenever NVIDIA launches the first PC with 64-bit ARM CPU at desktop level performance.

Microsoft however has slapped Linux away from ever being put on a system with Windows 8 on the ARM hardware as a secondary OS. http://hothardware.com/News...

This could be Valve's aim with Linux support shift. Linux ARM Steam platform + Hardware? Could Valve announce something in the next year? Maybe, but it might not come out until 10 years later with Valve time.

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banditgoon4239d ago

I hope this works great. i want to get into pc gaming, but after failing so miserable at trying to run pc games in the 1990's, i gave up. so hopefully this will give me a second chance.

s45gr324239d ago

That's exactly what happened to me in the nineties, got viruses, malware for running emulators from atari to snes even genesis games. It was a nightmare back then to play PC games. Now is just point and click play.

s45gr324239d ago

That's exactly what happened to me in the nineties, got viruses, malware for running emulators from atari to snes even genesis games. It was a nightmare back then to play PC games. Now is just point and click play.

s45gr324239d ago

That's exactly what happened to me in the nineties, got viruses, malware for running emulators from atari to snes even genesis games. It was a nightmare back then to play PC games. Now is just point and click play.

s45gr324239d ago

That's exactly what happened to me in the nineties, got viruses, malware for running emulators from atari to snes even genesis games. It was a nightmare back then to play PC games. Now is just point and click play.

WrAiTh Sp3cTr34239d ago

Lol, I wish I had that many bubbles to waste...saying the same thing.

On topic...there will always be Mario and hardware specific to that old plumber.

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MilkMan4239d ago

Wow this sure is exci...Zzzzzz

Godmars2904239d ago

Its amazing that people forget that consoles originally came into existence because PCs were both too expensive and too complex for the average consumer. That's changed to a degree, they're more accessible at least, so of course consoles are eventually going to be pushed aside.

Perjoss4239d ago

"too complex for the average consumer."

I don't want to live on this planet anymore

KingMe424238d ago

Can a 12 year old kid play a PC game as easy as he can a console game? Until that happens consoles are not going anywhere. (12 yea rold being my brother)

DudeJets4238d ago

Well my 5 year old can play games on a pc just as easily a console. So maybe your 12 year old brother is lacking a bit in mentality.

Dms20124239d ago

This is nothing new, I have been playing steam on a 46" Sony Bravia for a few years now, with a 360 PC controller. The only difference is the simplified interface.

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Why Are Steam's Recommendations Dogpoop?

Blindfolding myself and clicking a Steam page at random would serve me better recommendations than Steam’s algorithm

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UltimateOwnage9d ago

Hmm, not sure I agree with that. The recommendations I get are usually pretty good, but then again I have pretty large library of games on Steam and hundreds of them in my wish list, along with lots of curators I follow for it to build recommendations off of. On occasion it will throw me a random FIFA game or something I've never bought or shown interest in, but mostly its decent IMO.

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5 Best Metroidvania Games on Steam (March 2024)

Dive into the best Metroidvania games on Steam, from hidden gems to top-rated classics, and embark on unforgettable adventures!

jznrpg20d ago

Skul is a metroidvania ? It’s on PS+ soon I’ll check it out. If it’s good I’ll buy a copy physically if they have one

Nacho_Z19d ago

If Pseudoregalia is one of the best I'd hate to see what the worst look like.

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Dragon’s Dogma 2 releases to mixed user reviews, as microtransactions criticised

Players can pay to edit their character, resurrect the dead and other actions.

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AdonisIsBeast28d ago

Who cares as long as it’s optional

phoenixwing28d ago

paying to edit your character is kind of crap as far as microtransactions go

Xristo28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

I hate any/all MTX in a paid game (especially a full-price game)... but know that you can spend in-game currency (RC), which you get from killing mobs, to completely remake your character.

phoenixwing27d ago

@xRisto how much did it change the gameplay though? Changing your character would have probably not cost any rc if they weren't hellbent on getting money by making it inconvenient

koga8827d ago

You can literally edit your character using in-game gold, dropped from monsters or obtained from selling items, as soon as you reach the first main town. You can even use Rift Crystals obtained from other people using your pawn or dropped from monsters to change your entire character or Pawn. It's paying to avoid doing something that is literally in the game.

PRIMORDUS27d ago

They are lucky there using Denuvo or their game and all future DLC etc. would be for free. 🤣

phoenixwing27d ago

@koga you completely missed the point i was making but go ahead and act like i'm being the wrong one

lucian22927d ago

you can pay ingame currency though; why are ya so derp

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Crows9028d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Capcom cares quite a bit....hence why it was kept from reviewers and initial impressions.

As far as optional...yeah...ALL mtx are optional. That's not the problem. The miss the mark entirely.

Heck buying the game is "optional" too.

The fact that they were hiding this is scummy as hell. I was going to buy this day 1 or day 3. Now I'm reconsidering the purchase entirely because as the reviews point out...there are certain design decisions which have not changed but funnily enough seem to be remedied by these mtx...

In other words they may have left certain features in the game in order to monetize them. So the mtx affected the development of the game in a negative way.

garos8228d ago

I'm certainly not buying it anymore. It has affected at least one sale from me. I'll pick it up second hand

peppeaccardo27d ago

Very close to buy the game at a discounted price but not anymore.
Bad business practice and hence they do not get my support/money !

warriorcase27d ago

It wasn't kept fromreviewers s though. Twitter reviewers are saying there was mention of mtx's in the reviewers guide

-Foxtrot28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

STOP. USING. THAT. SHITTY. EXCUSE

God damn man

Look how DLC changed after Oblivions horse armour, within 10 years most developers took the absolute p***. What was said then aswell? “It’s only optional who cares?” Now look where we all are.

There’s no half measures with these things, when will people realise this.

jwillj2k427d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Oh it’s gonna get worse. Ng+ locked behind mtx, “cool downs” preventing you from playing for more than 3 hours at a time unless u pay the mtx for unlimited access, main campaign bosses, in-game music, certain dialog, difficulty modes, certain npc interactions, all locked behind mtx, etc.. etc. gonna end up being like the NBA 2k games eventually paying for cross overs and shit… They gon get mid-evil on our asses.

OMGitzThatGuy27d ago

I can guarantee most of the items you can buy with mtx and ingame currency wouldn’t exist in ANY paid form if the main goal wasn't monetization. If the goal is to give idiots who are willing to pay for basic game features as mtx a way to do things faster then the only ones the mtx hurt are the non paying players as you are now locking features behind a grind that you chose to put in the game that you are essentially admitting to creating some type of time sink. I have never heard of a game locking basic character editing behind a ingame paywall, it’s usually just an option.

Chard27d ago

Takes two to tango though - unfortunately people buy this garbage which incentivises the behaviour. It's an inevitable outcome of the profit motive

thorstein28d ago

@Mario

Yes. And so are resurrection "Wakestones." You can find them but they're rare.

victorMaje28d ago

Buying the game is now very optional too. If you don’t know why then you don’t get it.

shinoff218328d ago

Because it's only a door way. That's why we care. We've already seen some shit since Mtx was introduced.

Rimeskeem28d ago

1. DD2 is an ARPG with 8 different playable classes
2. There is no multiplayer aspect to the game
3. You can only have one character (have to pay for more)
4. You cannot delete the character unless you go into the game files
5. The game is $70 dollars upfront

Having to pay for more character slots in a game that *features* 8 playable classes is pretty much not optional for an ARPG.

Angyobangyo27d ago

Judging from steam reviews, gamers care. Not plastic gamers. Why didn’t Itsuno mention such MTX would be available in-game? Why weren’t the MTXs there for review copies?

Kiryu199227d ago

Who cares is how all this started. The many many excuses. Please keep defending these greedy publishers and unfair tactics. We be gamers are the problem

Horse armor

$10 online passes if buying a used copy

Cheat codes gone and are replaced by micro transactions

Unlocking stuff by playing games behind micro transactions and XP boosters

It’s only cosmetic

No one is being forced to spend even though publishers are literally making their games more grindy to force people to play

Full priced games have mobile game type micro transactions

$70 priced games because higher development costs while making record profits and laying off record number of employees

And to play the game early pay us extra $20-30 on top of full price

Release games now and promise to maybe fix them later only to abandon the game

Day one patches that make the games worst

If it’s your favorite game defend the publisher if it’s not hate on another publisher for similar content

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kenpachi28d ago

Must have picked up some EA crew to put this in the game

robtion27d ago

Yeah these are really bad ones. Directly impacting gameplay too. Super scummy move. I hope nobody buys them.

CrimsonWing6928d ago

Yet Helldivers 2 gets a pass? Y’know a GotY contender by the name of RE4 had them and so does Devil May Cry V. The funny thing is I enjoyed both of those games thoroughly without having to buy a single microtransaction.

What I do consider a valid complaint is not being able to start a new game or being able to edit your character. That’s kind of a seriously baffling decision, but then I think how I played Dragon’s Dogma 1 and I never edited my character and I just did a 100% playthrough on a single file and didn’t start a NG since. So, I don’t think these are really going to impact me, but I can see how it will others.

Crows9028d ago

Helldivers 2 is a live service game where everything is obtainable in game with incredible ease.

Not sure about re4 or DMC but nobody is giving anyone a pass ...this article is about dragons dogma 2...not those games.

What is valid are in game features made to supposedly force you to think carefully only to have a surprise online store offer solutions to built in problems for more money.

Goosejuice28d ago

Those same things they are selling can be found Ingame as well. U can buy the character editor through merchants with gold. Don't get me wrong..I dislike these mtx they are doing but you don't need to buy them to be able to get them.

CrimsonWing6928d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Oh my bad, I can’t bring up games with microtransactions that nobody had a sh*t fit over. My mistake.

I love how people move the goalpost.

Crows9027d ago

@goose
@crimson

All mtx sucks. I'd rather helldiver's not have them because it makes me wonder if the rate at which you collect materials. That said. The games features are all fully enjoyable and aren't affected by the mtx.

That's not the case with dragons dogma 2...they left in place features that are supposedly part of the challenge of the game only to let you buy your way out very conveniently. I didn't look through all of them but I've heard some are rare but can be purchased with more money now. Even more so in a game about managing weight load there's a tent, I believe, that you can pay more money for that weighs less than your typical tent...not all sure on all the mtx and I'm aware that you can purchase many through in game vendor but they're incredibly useful mtx that are obtained much more slowly in game...or even a limited amount of them.

Instead is selling fast travel...just let us don't for free....or instead of selling cosmetic changes...how about letting us do it for free...

Nothing in helldivers comes close to this abomination

Angyobangyo27d ago

One is a single player game and one is a live service game. One is $40 vs$70. And most importantly, one game is there to spread democracy.

Ironmike27d ago

It's not incredibly easy for certain things in helldivers though u still have grind quite bit but u ate correct in saying u can eventually get enough medals to purchase stuff

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Moegooner28d ago

Read your comment again and maybe, just maybe you might realise how dumb it was.

CrimsonWing6928d ago (Edited 28d ago )

What was dumb about it? That I pointed out the hypocrisy?

garos8228d ago

It was extremely scummy that capcom hid this from reviewers. I have no doubt this game is good but these type of microtransactions don't sit well with me. They've lost a sale from me

Lionsguard28d ago

I was going to pay full price to support this game because I've been waiting for it for forever but I think I'll wait until I get it for free from Epic or a Humblebundle monthly.

Redemption-6428d ago

I am not defending Capcom, as I am not a fan of MTX in single player games. I do however belive they were open to reviewers about having MTX in their game. The reviewers just decided to leave that part out. Which is very disingenuous. There are some companies that get away with these things. Image if this was done by EA, Ubisoft, or even Activision? I am positive those defending Capcom, would have had their pitchforks ready if the companies listed above did this

anast28d ago

That's why reviewers can't be trusted. In fact, they are not reviewers at all. They get free codes to talk about stuff they don't understand nor care about.

Sanctusone27d ago

I mean it was pretty obvious to anyone with eyes...one of the items you get from deluxe edition was in game items.
1500 Rift Crystals - Points to Spend Beyond the Rift (A)
Which honestly I figured they kept a similar mtx system like DMC5 and the optional red orbs.

Lionsguard27d ago

1500 Rift Crystals doesn't mean anything. The first game had Rift crystals too, you just earned them by people hiring your Pawn and you get it from certain quests.

anast27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

A reviewer's job is to point out the obvious of a product as though they were the consumer. This means reviewers, to do their actual job, would need to review the complete game: the edition they are reviewing, how they got the game, technical aspects, story, and monetization scheme. Since, it is obvious that MT's are a part of the game, it would need to be reviewed. This way people can be informed, so they can decide if they want to play this style of game/monetization scheme.

For example, AC Origins was bad with Mt's. I had to farm side missions or pay to advance the story. This was after I already did close to 25 or more side missions. While I was grinding there were constant reminders that I could pay to ease the grind. I would have never bought the game if it were reviewed properly.

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