A game about sex? Ban this sick filth

Steam has been banning fake games from its service, but it's also knocked back a legitimate -- if rather risque -- project. Seduce Me is an erotic strategy game "inspired by the lives of American socialites and celebrities." Ironically, the developer blames that very same American culture for the ban.

[NastyLeftHook0]

I say we advertise the hell out of it, it seems great. sex natural and yet its condemned as being disgusting.

[Treian]

That may be true. However, that doesn't mean one has to follow that natural law. On another note, don't deny that our society glorifys sex out of proportions.

[Reverent]

Are you saying you don't engage in the sexual act of reproduction? Virgin? If so, I suppose I can understand your stance in this.

[colombiankilla01]

How did a nun got in here?

[Lucretia]

and our society doesnt glorify violence in the games, cartoons movies and shows that our children watch or play?????

i rather my kids bone someone than put a knife in someones throat.

michael schofield would be dissapointed in you

[TopDudeMan]

dude, there's movies and songs about sex. I'm not saying it's right, just that you can't have double standards. That's not how law works. You draw the line and everyone has to adhere it.

[Scenarist]

songs about violence and killing too
which os also natural to some degree

[Kurt Russell]

Although I think blahblah346 is a ninny on this subject... Ares84HU wins the award for hyprocritical douche. *stands and applauds*

[maelstromb]

Sounds like the archaic sexaphobic ramblings of a "Teabagger" to me. In other words, ignore ALL natural instincts and ONLY engage in sexual acts under the banner of marriage and for the pure sanctity of reproduction. Sorry to burst your bubble bud, but it's 2012 and those leanings don't necessarily fit within the societal construct any longer.

[TacoTaru]

Just because something is natural doesn't make it fit subject matter for a game. Taking a dump is one of the most natural things there is but I don't want a game built around that dynamic.

[amaguli]

Admit it, a pooping simulator would be awesome.

[Qrphe]

If there were people willing to buy a take-a-dump game, what would it matter to you?

NO ONE would force you to buy such as game (or Seduce Me for that matter).

[Hicken]

Taking a dump isn't nearly as important in social, mental, and emotional aspects as sex is. Yeah, we'll die if we don't poop, but only one person will die; without sex, we die out as a species.

If you don't understand the significance of sex outside of the biological need for procreation, I suggest you fall in love and have sex with that person.

Hell, just have sex.

Ever notice how people say "friends with benefits" doesn't last for very long before something bad happens? That's because sex isn't just physical, like taking a dump.

[Mr-Dude]

@Hicken
We even poop when we die... All our muscles relax when whe die

But to answer your question..
For me, pooping is also very emotional and intimate... It's not that i invite people to watch me poop...
But sex to me is very important, i would turn nuts if my girlfriend would deny me her "fruit"

[Scenarist]

anything can be fit for a game if done right...

[Ogygian]

You say that now, but very soon, you're going to come across an indie title which tries to do 'going to the toilet' well, and it's going to make you rethink your comment.
Like that game where you wait for your date and get really nervous. In a true group survival simulator (zombie type for example), finding an appropriate method for sewage disposal is important, as without it, dysentery would get you before the apocalypse does. This would really add to the sense of survivalism and desperation in such games.
I'm also shocked at how little human manure actually features in medieval games. In medieval London, people used to empty their chamber pots out of their windows onto the streets.
Gaming will never achieve the blunt realism it needs until it overcomes taboo subjects like these.

[AWBrawler]

lol then don't go on the appstore. if somebody makes it, somebody will play it, and we as gamers should respect other gamers opinions

[Muffins1223]

Its being secretly advertised right now!OH shit,ive said to much.

[Lord_Sloth]

It's supposed to be a private event involving 2 people. Condemned as being disgusting isn't the case here. It's trying to remain modest.

[DragonKnight]

Sex was made to be a private event between two people by societal expectations. Sex is simply a biological act. When was the last time you saw any animal care about privacy when mating season comes around? And who cares about modesty? Witnessing sex isn't going to kill anyone, nor is participating in the act evil in any way.

And, one more pretty important thing, this is a game. Meaning the "2 people" are non-existent. I never realized gamers were such prudes.

Explain how mass violence is acceptable in games but sex shouldn't be because it's a "private event between 2 people" and modesty must be served.

[Lord_Sloth]

There's a reason we call them animals. I'm not saying avoid sex all together, but there is a difference between sex and porn. Sex can be portrayed so long as it's not sex for the sake of sex alone in the game.

I feel that some games have portrayed it in a good light like Heavy Rain. Then there's games that toss it in there for the sake of doing so like Fable.

Honestly I don't care for excessive and brutal violence either, but nice try.

[spicelicka]

@Dragonknight

Have you ever thought about why those societal expectations were created? If animals didn't care then why did we evolve to be so private. It's because we developed the sense of modesty. Animals don't care about privacy because they don't have the sense to acknowledge it. When was the last time you saw animals mate for others to watch?

You always see from the viewer's perspective, not the participant.

You see it's not necessrily wrong when the "2 people" don't exist, but the fact that violence is acceptable shouldn't just automatically justify it.

[Kingnichendrix]

@spicelicka
"When was the last time you saw animals mate for others to watch?"
Have you ever heard of the Bonobo monkey?
"Animals don't care about privacy because they don't have the sense to acknowledge it"
Have you ever heard of gorillas?"
Another thing Because violence is seen as ok in video games, when sex is seen as 'Sick Filth' what is that about?

[Thatguy-310]

Idk there ain't nothing wrong about these type of games being made but they should really watch where they have these type of things available. Honestly sex has more influence on the human mind than violance does especially in kids. Let's just remember the sole purpose of gaming and find gems that define it(obviously this isn't the case). But yea the idea of these type of games isn't new so there isn't a problem is just the equivalent of a porn flick. The important thing here is just watching where they release these type of things.

[Thatguy-310]

Just like someone above me said. Sex is a natural act just like violance but when you compare human conscious with one of an animal we truly differ and know what's right from wrong. If we threw our conscious away we would be no different from animals just screwing anywhere we want. We are a greater species and that fact alone justifies why many do have moral values especially when it comes to sex. Sex has a bigger influence on the human mind than violance does. If I had to choose from both on which to support it will have to be violance because most people don't have the guts to portray what they see on games.

[AlienLion]

But does sex exist?

[SilentNegotiator]

Steam doesn't want to be associated with low quality porno games! Quick! Everyone throw a principled fit!

And then let's pretend like everyone against us plays violent video games! Just like when I claim that every living creature has pirated music when I justify piracy!

[ElitaStorm]

this will change the gaming and its not a good thing!!

they are not talking about sex in video games

they want to make porn games and it is not ok

[frjoethesecond]

Why not. Porn games have existed for almost as long as games have?

[Mutant-Spud]

People also have sex for fun and play real life sex games in the bedroom (and elsewhere), does it have co-op so my wife and I can play it together?

[Persistantthug]

:)

[awi5951]

LOL Thats why i didnt by witcher 1 on steam they cut out all the good stuff. I didnt buy witcher 2 on steam as well i thought they would cut out all the nudity on that one as well. Witcher 2 wasnt sensored but the steam version of witcher 1 was.

[FanboyPunisher]

Now I know why they made a game about this.

Because, some of the gaming community cant get none!
They cant get none! nananana They'll never get none! nanana. Never had sum. nanana. = Type of ppl who buy this.

I'll never buy a game like this; i'd have to kick my own ass.

Please go outside, talk to girls.

[tokugawa]

@tentonsoffanboy

one day you will actually get to experience it as well.... i bet you cant wait?? lol

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

Cannibalism, fratricide. These are natural and considered disgusting. People throw the word natural like it normalizes some behavior because an animal does it. Sex is good, but a lot about sex is bad and disgusting. Calling something natural means nothing.

Too much of even the good kind desensitizes us to the bad. We have people with serious addictions to sex and porn. Our children are saturated with it. We treat a perversion like its a ethnic group or a TRUE genetic difference. We are becoming an oversexed society.

There is only one thing that can stem this. Marriage. Nothing kills sex like a good marriage.

[Rettom]

It's disgusting to make a game out of it.

[knifefight]

Yeah, ban bad games about bad things like sex!

...Now it's back to my games about stealing cars and driving down the street killing strangers, for me!

[Qrphe]

Let's make war, instead of making love!

It's no fun when everyone is enjoying themselves instead of shooting each other.

[Carl_Shocker]

<sigh>

Time to get the Online Wet Floor sign out for this article

[Wingsfan24]

Whatever happened to the "A" rating? Never even seen a game with that rating before. Steam should just incorporate an adults section if developers want to create something like this.

[LAWSON72]

Manhunt 2 I believe is a rated

[Dan50]

Adult games are banned from consoles/stores so they are not worth making if you're wanting to make lots of money since pretty much no one will carry them. But 18+ games are allowed in every country and soon to be Australia. Oddly enough adult games are just seen as filthy in the US and normal everywhere else.

[FarCryLover182]

I'd love to play a game that simulates sex... Think of the achievements and trophies.

[blackhammer]

Achievement unlocked!

Ass-to-mouth!

[Bathyj]

You NEVER go ass to mouth.

[Brownghost]

So sex isnt allowed but violence, gore, and cursing is?

[AO1JMM]

Yup sex is bad and must be banned or highly censored. I'm going back to playing my "murder simulators".

/s

[user7792788]

How much

[DFresh]

I don't see anything wrong with this.

It's not like we're not seeing games sort of evolve in that direction anyway.

ex.)
Heavy Rain, Beyond: Two Souls, Mass Effect, God of War 3 (Athena scene), etc.

More variety the better.

Anyone would be a hypocrite to say that sex is filth yet your ok with tons of brutal, gory and bloody violence.

Just accept it people gaming is a mainstream thing now and like other forms of entertainment it'll evolve to attract more audiences.

Sex Sales!

[Thatguy-310]

Well the games you mention don't go that far as the game in this article does. This is basically an adult game just like porn is an adult movie. There is a place for everything but people who think games like these should go mainstream are just wrong. There is a place for everything and ill admit games like these are fun to play but ill stick to my GOW's and uncharted's. I love sex just like the other person but that doesn't mean I want the whole concept being exploit to this extend.

[DFresh]

Yes you could make it mainstream just like you do with porn.
(Porn = $20B industry.)
You just put a higher mature rating on those titles and have another room where people over 18 could purchase said content.
There's a market for adult content always has been.
Another reason why I mentioned those titles is because it involved some type of sexual intercourse.
We didn't see games like that before until now.

[blackhammer]

They wanna push the games they want to and this is a game they don't want on there. I think that's fine. Try getting wal-mart to sell it. Same thing there. They just don't want it. Respect for autonomy.

Oddly, sex does offend people. I mean, Rapelay was definitely something that should offend every single person, but this game seemed like it would only offend those people who think sex should not be satisfying or enjoyable.

The art is pretty nice.

[Lockon]

Fox news will love this.

[Kratoscar2008]

So i can remove a guy head quirurgically but i cant see a guy get laid? I dont want to live in this world anymore.

[Romudeth]

Typical American puritan bullshit.

And yes I'm an American.

[gamerben]

Gotta agree, so many non-pornographic movies show nudity every year, yet when a videogame tries to throw in a boob or two, everyone has a bitch fit.

[Jirachi]

Sex is perfectly natural because if you try to make claims like "homosexuality is wrong" the only reason you would have to expalin why and "because i said so" isn't a valid excuse nor is "because god said so" because any rule most have a logical reason behind it. Like murder it's wrong because you are hurting someone.

And this is coming from someone who belives in the bible,but just because i doesn't mean i have to believe every single word after all the bible it's self says it is written by human beings,they can twist gods words to fit there own selfish desires.

[TotalSynthesisX]

Games that have excessive violence, gore, strong language, and drug references: "Oh sure, no problem."

Games that show sex: "WE CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE PLAYING THIS! IT'S BARBARIC!"

Welcome to Earth. Year 2012.

[aliengmr]

The irony is that banning this game from Steam was the best thing for it. Can't beat all this free advertising.

Sex is no more disgusting as violence, that is true. But I still think its Valve decision on what they sell. Steam isn't the only store in town, even though people seem to think it is.

If Steam were the ONLY way to get PC games and they banned this game, I would feel differently, but since its not, I don't.

I certainly hope this game actually deserves all the attention its getting.

[chukamachine]

Penis - Run for the hills.

[lyvon]

So many virgins on this page...

We live in an excerpt from Alice in Wonderland, directed entirely by Buck Rogers. What a world.

Where it's more "normal" and accepted to see blood, gore, violence, murder, swearing, drug and substance ingestion etc. than to see a man and woman have sex.

Bizarre doesn't cover it.

[Mr-Dude]

Funny, here in Holland you can find sex anywhere...
Hookers are legal here, and sex isn't a BIG deal here...
Hell, you can even buy weed and hash here

[swice]

Holland here I come

[Shane Kim]

I juuuuuuuuust had seeeeeeeeeeeeeex, and it feeeeeeeeeelt so gooooooooooooooooooood.

[SnakeCQC]

religious and right wing people are always quick to condemn everything

[MrKingofVideoGames]

yeah... 'cause Steam is a religious organization?????

[M1chl]

This is a well-known fact, but everytime I'l about this "issue" I get dissapointed. I don't even need sex in video games (if there is no reason to have one there), but seeing that is so much of a problem for someone to actually have the most natural thing on earth, yet murdering people is completly fine, its really brain hurting experience. Its makes you think of, how actually other people think...and not to be a drama queen, but I feel threaten by all of this. Really? You rather f*ck people with the gun, than with your genitals? And its not only in videogames, you can see this in many other cases. Lets hope that in real world people thinks differently than on the internet...

[Sephris]

This article shows just how far America has plummeted into decline, and why the rest of the world laughs at us. What is praised on one form of media is an object of witch hunting on another.

I live in a country where parents have no problem letting their children play games where shooting the face off of other people is a good thing but letting them see boobs is an atrocity. Personally, I would rather my underage child learn about sex and nudity, something that might make their future relationships happier and more exciting, than giving them games of murder where one day they might talk shit and get shot. But I suppose that wanting happiness and love rather than death and murder is too liberal of thinking for an American to have.

[Stoppokingme]

The article is just a rant but it has a point.

I'd prefer it if some people were inspired by a porn game to go get laid, rather than be inspired by CoD to go on a shooting rampage.

Make love not war, as they say.

[Sephris]

Just an addition to what I said above, I wouldn't doubt that the very same people screaming for this game to be banned are the same idiots who are glued to their TV, waiting to see who Snooki bangs next. Ugly whores are celebrated in America, but showing boobs in a video game is evil. sometimes I wish I had the power to give the majority of Americans a mental enema.

[Razgriz383]

If the game/book/movie etc. pulls it off maturely and in a way more focused on something that would take place in real life...it is completely okay with me.

I just hate when its thrown in and even I (who has a tolerance for such things) wonder why the hell they thought this was needed at all. I don't understand when they make it seem like the movie way is how stuff goes down for real people in real situations.

Oh and one last thing is that you should show enough for someone to get an idea rolling in their head...not feed it to them on a silver platter like a porno.

[MilkMan]

Not the first nor the last sex game. I like BoneTown myself. PROMOTE this I say!

[Newsman]

Crap like this really helps more nails in N4G coffin. This place is just full of this crap.

[MrKingofVideoGames]

Thank you Newsman. You sir are correct!

[Psychotica]

Are you saying N4G is dying? Seems pretty popular..

[Dead_by_Dawn]

Sex is a natural way of the world, but lets be critical here. This will be bashed and branded as a form of porn. Because in some peoples eye it'll be seen as influence for minors to experience such things in the real world. Not that its not already happening. But imo, what isn't an bad influence. You can't strictly blame one form of entertainment as bad, there are many factors. Music, more precisely pop music, hip hop, rap etc etc.. and movies. The public image of both of these respectable forms of entertainment, both showcase more sexual imagery and content, than any video game on the market. As soon as a video game puts in a mild scene with nudity, it right away gets flagged as interactive porn, which is BS. But if the movie/music industry does it, its called sexy. Plus the movie/music industry have a much bigger impact in todays world than video games, which is why I don't understand why this should be banned. I say release it and let people enjoy this piece of entertainment. In the end, that's what its for right? To entertain.

[alb1899]

How much hippocrates........everyone like sex, yes is natural even sell somthing everyone want.....it sounds very logical to me.

[ShadowKingx]

I have to agree BAN this article from N4G. It amazing how a topic like this get to be the hottest topic in just 12 hrs. You bunch of sick perverts. i guess you were hoping to actually see something.

[KillerPwned]

This shows that in American culture we need to grow up and respect sex for what it is. It is abused and then look upon as a horrible thing when extreme violence is glorified in most media.

[MadMen]

Bring IT

Heres the deal, games have always gotten a bad wrap, but movies and "art" are allowed to "express" themselves anyway they please.

Games should be able to do as they wish, sales of it will dictate rather its worth our time or if we do not wish for it or think its garbage, not opinions.

[Moncole]

Sex is natural and so is animals killing each other but we hardly see animals killing each other in videogames. So many virgins on this site saying sex is okay, would you allow a 5 year old watch people have sex? Sex arouses people unlike violence, violence only arouses crazy people thats why they are different.

[AWBrawler]

I'd sooner let my kid watch some good old fashion firxing, than i would let him watch SAW or Somebody get grinded into chilli.

[Tzuno]

Only for open mind people.

[dorron]

So it's ok to shoot people and rip their heads apart, but having sex is filthy and deserves to be banned? Oh, the irony...

Just tag the game with a +18 and way to go...

[takohma]

hearing about sex so much on here is making me want to watch a porn....lmao i kid i kid. take my bubbles lol.

edit: dont take my bubbles lol****

[ATi_Elite]

What I don't understand is that "your on the Internet" and have access to A million Gazillabytes worth of Pron but people want to post stupid Video Game pron stories.

It's just gonna:

cause unwanted controversy
Get bad publicity
make your website look like your eWhoring for Hits
and NOT make any money

N4G should be filled with insider info on all the secret games being made right now BUT all we get is Top 10 list, booth babes, and video game Pron!

Boy do I miss Gamepro and Video Games & Computer Entertainment Magazines cause they never had CRAP like this cause they were too busy reporting real video game news.

[dee-ecks]

Very, very, very well said!

[Enigma_2099]

Long as it's not a blatant rape simulator, and it's rated appropriately, other than Steam having the right not to offer it on their service, what's the problem?

[dee-ecks]

Wow, someone displays some actual morals and everyone suddenly wants to lynch him. Very sad how backward our society has become.

[Killman]

Ah America.

The country that is perfectly fine with a film series that portrays horrid acts of touture and murder towards innocent people, the SAW films that is, yet sex is STILL considered taboo. We also have had TWO games based off of that sickening line of movies.

This country is going downhill more and more.

[-Gespenst-]

Yeah but it's sort of a stupid game. I mean, you play as the "player" who has all these women crawling all over him, and it's up to you which one you get to fuck? Seems a bit sexist and immature to me, like most games akin to it. Women just become the sexual playthings of men, ready to bend to their every whim.

I mean it is a double standard that Valve allows the purchase of equally immature violent games on their service, but selling games like this... I can see how it might damage their reputation, they'd seem sleazy selling all these sex games.

Also, and sadly enough, violence in videogames is something most people expect from them, it's an expectation that's sedimented into videogame culture. There's almost like a certain way people have come to expect the treatment of violence in videogames. Sex on the other hand, never underwent that sort of social process, and so it just doesn't really gel well with game culture.

People need to realize the social, cultural aspects underlying this decision. They're not simply just being conservative or something. It's a difficult hypocrisy to avoid in videogame culture.

[Feylynn]

Sure, let this game see the light of day because there's really no reason not to I guess. But please no one actually buy it, the gameplay looks horrible and you can find porn on Google. =/

Besides, isn't having your porn on your steam account one step short of having it announced on your facebook or Twitter? Do people really need to know you're playing this game? Steam probably isn't the place for it.

[lahnaloo]

Ha! I was thinking the same thing. I wouldn't want people seeing I was playing that game. lol!!!

edit: typo

[Dunpeal]

lol @ the sad virgin conservos that are agreeing with blahblah and disagreeing with the rational majority who enjoy sexual encounters

[AWBrawler]

Well I've been reading all the comments, and even I as a Nintendo fan agree. Sex is absolutley natural. Tho i'd never play the game in the article, I'd sooner play a game where Mario bones Peach than i would one where he beheads bowser with a chainsaw.

I never understood the violence is okay, but "OMG it's sex! Go get the Holy Water" type of approach people take. Hell, as an anime fan, I watch shows like elfen lied, which has a lot of bare breasts, but its a good damn show, and its very violent, but you can guess what American complained more about. Hint: it wasn't the gore.

[GrahamGolden]

hmmm sometimes it make me think...

its ok to ban games with sex wich btw its natural and beautiful feeling but let games with pools of bloods,cutting heads,hands,rip eyes off etc etc is just fine ?

lol

[MultiConsoleGamer]

They have a name for people who play porn video games....

They're called virgins.

[Kureno_Nakamura]

Ban a game for adults that could only be sold to adults? Are you retarded?

"IMMA GET IT BANNED CUZ I DONT LIKES ME NO FILTHY FORNICATORS, EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE HAD TO FUCK TO MAKE ALL OF US"

[Strakken]

I'm surprised people haven't started bitching about actual porn itself

[Weslex]

Well aparently somebody isnt gettin any pussy and is offended by a game that THEY DONT HAVE TO PLAY.

[evil_element]

Shame sex isn't in more games. Seems to be a topic which would add more depth to any game but excluding it keeps most games artificial and lacking realism.

[Jag-T1000]

Don't you dare ban this sick filth!

[lahnaloo]

Eh, this all just screams "shock value." to me -the article, and the game. Yawn. Why does it have to be on Steam anyway? If Steam doesn't want it, it's their freedom as a business not to carry it.

Package it and sell it or host it on their own website. Problem solved.

[Bob570]

OH MAN! Heaven forbid that Gabe Newell removes a game from his store that he disagrees with!

I see no problem with Valve banning this game from it's store. This is exacttly like saying that there is nothing wrong with looking at porn. What's really sad is that I will probably get multiple responses and disagrees from people defending looking at porn.

[lahnaloo]

Porn is perfectly fine. I think a business has every right to decide what product they do and do not carry.

If I was running a small little home town business of retro games, magic cards, comics and whatever... am I a "sad little virgin" just because I don't want porn videos in my store? I don't think so, but apparently every one thinks just because you dont wanna sell something, apparently you're a virgin and have a problem with sex.

Imo, there's enough free porn out there...what's the point of buying it anyway. :P

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

how much OW, MY BALLS! does this country need?

[ninjahunter]

X_X If thats filth, i dont even want to hear the words that describe by weekend browser history.

[memphis2]

at least this game is not like rapelay. i don't see anything wrong with this game.