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Digital Distribution : It's not the future, it's right now.

"Change and the ability to accept and adapt to changes made: it’s what separates humans from the dinosaurs."

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Droid Control4241d ago

The thing is, if you buy something from Steam you know you have it forever. If you buy a game off XBL or PSN you don't know if it will run on 720/1440 or PS4/PS5

ChunkyLover534241d ago

Didn't they just make people sign some kind of weird user agreement on Steam?

I don't trust fully digital content in the least, not to mention that I have a bandwidth limit of 150 gigs a month, which might sound like a lot, but when you remember that streaming a show on Netflix takes up a couple of gigs by itself, you see the position that I and a lot of other people are in.

Cant have a digital now, or future when so many people wont even be able to download anything.

TitanUp4241d ago

users also had to sign a weird agreement on ps3 almost the same thing as steam users.

negative4241d ago

You don't need it to run on the 720/1440 or PS4/PS5. Just hold onto the hardware you buy it on.

decrypt4241d ago

Hardware tends to go bad in the long run, so are you going to keep rebuying old hardware and for how long are you going to keep doing that, later are you going to rebuy multiple old hardware like maybe when PS6 is out you going to keep rebuying PS3,4 & 5? that surely isnt sustainable.

With Steam or any other PC digital service, you only need a PC it can be the latest hardware or can be old it will run the games. There is no such thing as new hardware not running old games (95% of games from 25 years ago still work) Be it via Emulation etc whatever, it just works.

TheDivine4240d ago

Decrypt the same can be said of a pc. Pc's go bad and you will have to rebuy a pc to play your games. If a ps3 goes bad rebuy a ps3 (which will be cheaper down the road also). All dd is based on having the hardware to run it. I have to have a pc to watch my digital movies and listen to music. If my laptop craps out i need a replacement. The only benefit steam has is than any hardware (pc wise) can access it vs only rebuying a ps3 or 360.

My only problem is will the servers for consoles stay up (to redownload games and whatnot). Thats the only real problem. Consoles HAVE to be bc nowadays with so much content (dlc, arcade games, full dd games) being sold. If the next ps or ms system doesnt play my arcade games i prob wont buy it until its under 200. It has to be bc with disk titles also or no buy until its cheap.

DD can help us gamers. Look at FF Type-0. They wont release it because of cost. With psn theycan release it for psp and vita for virtually no cost and mostly all profit. Why they wont is beyond me. What im against is this streaming bullshit. Now dd copies of movies you get in blurays are for streaming only. If cloud gets big we wont be able to have disks or dd games which is the real problem. DD is a nice compliment to retail to help small publishers and niche games. Cloud will become the devil. Imagine itunes making you stream your music and not be able to have it play without 3g/4g. HELL NO.

Summons754241d ago (Edited 4241d ago )

you technically don't have it forever seeing as the terms of agreement says they can take away things and shut down without reason. Then you would not have it. Same with xbox and playstation. You only buy the rights to play the game, you never actually own the game and that's a big reason why we shouldn't support Digital Download. Personally I like to own my games and pick them up, toss them around if they're terrible etc etc. Digital only media will never take the place of Physical media it's plain and simple no matter how you look at it.

Digital is for the XBLA or PSNA games as well as steam but why would you wanna be something digital when you can own it completely as physical.

NYC_Gamer4241d ago (Edited 4241d ago )

The same reason many of us buy songs from Itunes and watch movies/tv shows on Netflix instead of buying them from retail...Options are always good in my opinion...

Summons754241d ago

Watching shows on netflix is the equivalent of renting them. You don't own them and your not paying full price for every movie it's 8 bucks for unlimited movies. Buying digital is 60 bucks per game for not owning your game, how dose that even come close to being comparable to netflix

NYC_Gamer4241d ago (Edited 4241d ago )

@Summons75

I have never paid 60 bucks for any digital game bought from Steam...Valve is good on that end at giving customers more value for their dollar..Console brands need to adapt and offer the same type of deals on software if they wanna move forward with digital....It's hard for MS/Sony/Nintendo because they depend on retail to sell their hardware.....Digital and physical software can exist together....

Jdoki4241d ago

I don't fully agree with that Droid Control.

There's many games, such as DOS games, Win 95 games etc that were great fun - but they don't work properly now.

A good example is the move from 386SX to DX chips - Doom would not run on an SX. Or the move from 32bit to 64bit OS's causing incompatibility with some games. Who is to say there won't be a similar evolution of hardware or software in future.

All we can really say is that you 'own' the games on either console or PC until the point where either your console breaks or Sony/MS stop you downloading the games. And with a PC version you own the game unless Steam decides to remove it from their library, or the hardware / OS causes incompatibility and you no longer have a compatible PC.

Where there is an argument, is over Backwards compatibility in consoles, and emulators on PC.

DeadlyFire4241d ago (Edited 4241d ago )

BS. This is only the begining of Digital. Its nowhere near the normal thing. As people still fear any new Digital service. OnLive crashing, and Fear of EA sapping the life out of you with Origin service are two of many recent things that have come to light to show that Digital is still a long way away, but if things are set right then it will last and grow.

One. As we do not own a game for more than one generation. A service like Gaikai or another cloud service with PSN built around and in it without it being essential so that downloads are still an option, but say all of our last gen content is saved on the cloud.

There is a global standard for broadband to reach 100 Mbps to 50+ percent of nearly every country between 2017-2027.

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Rhythmattic4241d ago

All the PS+ digital content I download, the rest I buy to own as a Physical copy.

Not to shabby really.

JKelloggs4241d ago

Same with me, and if a game is on sale on PSN or is cheaper than the physical counterpart (once in a blue moon) then I'll but it off of the store

dazzrazz4241d ago

Thing is console games on demand compared to those available in retail form are still overpriced as hell, so I refuse to adapt

NYC_Gamer4241d ago

Console brands do that on purpose because they still depend on retail shops to sell their hardware

Jdoki4241d ago

I thought Sony (at least) had clarified that they don't set the prices of the full downloadable games - the publisher / distributor does.

The games Sony does publish seem to be closer to retail or at least offered on sale more frequently - it's the EA / Activision that seem to be going for full RRP (or higher)

Xperia_ion4241d ago

I like having a mix of both

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Why Are Steam's Recommendations Dogpoop?

Blindfolding myself and clicking a Steam page at random would serve me better recommendations than Steam’s algorithm

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UltimateOwnage9d ago

Hmm, not sure I agree with that. The recommendations I get are usually pretty good, but then again I have pretty large library of games on Steam and hundreds of them in my wish list, along with lots of curators I follow for it to build recommendations off of. On occasion it will throw me a random FIFA game or something I've never bought or shown interest in, but mostly its decent IMO.

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jznrpg19d ago

Skul is a metroidvania ? It’s on PS+ soon I’ll check it out. If it’s good I’ll buy a copy physically if they have one

Nacho_Z19d ago

If Pseudoregalia is one of the best I'd hate to see what the worst look like.

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Dragon’s Dogma 2 releases to mixed user reviews, as microtransactions criticised

Players can pay to edit their character, resurrect the dead and other actions.

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AdonisIsBeast27d ago

Who cares as long as it’s optional

phoenixwing27d ago

paying to edit your character is kind of crap as far as microtransactions go

Xristo27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

I hate any/all MTX in a paid game (especially a full-price game)... but know that you can spend in-game currency (RC), which you get from killing mobs, to completely remake your character.

phoenixwing27d ago

@xRisto how much did it change the gameplay though? Changing your character would have probably not cost any rc if they weren't hellbent on getting money by making it inconvenient

koga8827d ago

You can literally edit your character using in-game gold, dropped from monsters or obtained from selling items, as soon as you reach the first main town. You can even use Rift Crystals obtained from other people using your pawn or dropped from monsters to change your entire character or Pawn. It's paying to avoid doing something that is literally in the game.

PRIMORDUS27d ago

They are lucky there using Denuvo or their game and all future DLC etc. would be for free. 🤣

phoenixwing27d ago

@koga you completely missed the point i was making but go ahead and act like i'm being the wrong one

lucian22926d ago

you can pay ingame currency though; why are ya so derp

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Crows9027d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Capcom cares quite a bit....hence why it was kept from reviewers and initial impressions.

As far as optional...yeah...ALL mtx are optional. That's not the problem. The miss the mark entirely.

Heck buying the game is "optional" too.

The fact that they were hiding this is scummy as hell. I was going to buy this day 1 or day 3. Now I'm reconsidering the purchase entirely because as the reviews point out...there are certain design decisions which have not changed but funnily enough seem to be remedied by these mtx...

In other words they may have left certain features in the game in order to monetize them. So the mtx affected the development of the game in a negative way.

garos8227d ago

I'm certainly not buying it anymore. It has affected at least one sale from me. I'll pick it up second hand

peppeaccardo27d ago

Very close to buy the game at a discounted price but not anymore.
Bad business practice and hence they do not get my support/money !

warriorcase26d ago

It wasn't kept fromreviewers s though. Twitter reviewers are saying there was mention of mtx's in the reviewers guide

-Foxtrot27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

STOP. USING. THAT. SHITTY. EXCUSE

God damn man

Look how DLC changed after Oblivions horse armour, within 10 years most developers took the absolute p***. What was said then aswell? “It’s only optional who cares?” Now look where we all are.

There’s no half measures with these things, when will people realise this.

jwillj2k427d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Oh it’s gonna get worse. Ng+ locked behind mtx, “cool downs” preventing you from playing for more than 3 hours at a time unless u pay the mtx for unlimited access, main campaign bosses, in-game music, certain dialog, difficulty modes, certain npc interactions, all locked behind mtx, etc.. etc. gonna end up being like the NBA 2k games eventually paying for cross overs and shit… They gon get mid-evil on our asses.

OMGitzThatGuy26d ago

I can guarantee most of the items you can buy with mtx and ingame currency wouldn’t exist in ANY paid form if the main goal wasn't monetization. If the goal is to give idiots who are willing to pay for basic game features as mtx a way to do things faster then the only ones the mtx hurt are the non paying players as you are now locking features behind a grind that you chose to put in the game that you are essentially admitting to creating some type of time sink. I have never heard of a game locking basic character editing behind a ingame paywall, it’s usually just an option.

Chard26d ago

Takes two to tango though - unfortunately people buy this garbage which incentivises the behaviour. It's an inevitable outcome of the profit motive

thorstein27d ago

@Mario

Yes. And so are resurrection "Wakestones." You can find them but they're rare.

victorMaje27d ago

Buying the game is now very optional too. If you don’t know why then you don’t get it.

shinoff218327d ago

Because it's only a door way. That's why we care. We've already seen some shit since Mtx was introduced.

Rimeskeem27d ago

1. DD2 is an ARPG with 8 different playable classes
2. There is no multiplayer aspect to the game
3. You can only have one character (have to pay for more)
4. You cannot delete the character unless you go into the game files
5. The game is $70 dollars upfront

Having to pay for more character slots in a game that *features* 8 playable classes is pretty much not optional for an ARPG.

Angyobangyo27d ago

Judging from steam reviews, gamers care. Not plastic gamers. Why didn’t Itsuno mention such MTX would be available in-game? Why weren’t the MTXs there for review copies?

Kiryu199226d ago

Who cares is how all this started. The many many excuses. Please keep defending these greedy publishers and unfair tactics. We be gamers are the problem

Horse armor

$10 online passes if buying a used copy

Cheat codes gone and are replaced by micro transactions

Unlocking stuff by playing games behind micro transactions and XP boosters

It’s only cosmetic

No one is being forced to spend even though publishers are literally making their games more grindy to force people to play

Full priced games have mobile game type micro transactions

$70 priced games because higher development costs while making record profits and laying off record number of employees

And to play the game early pay us extra $20-30 on top of full price

Release games now and promise to maybe fix them later only to abandon the game

Day one patches that make the games worst

If it’s your favorite game defend the publisher if it’s not hate on another publisher for similar content

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kenpachi27d ago

Must have picked up some EA crew to put this in the game

robtion27d ago

Yeah these are really bad ones. Directly impacting gameplay too. Super scummy move. I hope nobody buys them.

CrimsonWing6927d ago

Yet Helldivers 2 gets a pass? Y’know a GotY contender by the name of RE4 had them and so does Devil May Cry V. The funny thing is I enjoyed both of those games thoroughly without having to buy a single microtransaction.

What I do consider a valid complaint is not being able to start a new game or being able to edit your character. That’s kind of a seriously baffling decision, but then I think how I played Dragon’s Dogma 1 and I never edited my character and I just did a 100% playthrough on a single file and didn’t start a NG since. So, I don’t think these are really going to impact me, but I can see how it will others.

Crows9027d ago

Helldivers 2 is a live service game where everything is obtainable in game with incredible ease.

Not sure about re4 or DMC but nobody is giving anyone a pass ...this article is about dragons dogma 2...not those games.

What is valid are in game features made to supposedly force you to think carefully only to have a surprise online store offer solutions to built in problems for more money.

Goosejuice27d ago

Those same things they are selling can be found Ingame as well. U can buy the character editor through merchants with gold. Don't get me wrong..I dislike these mtx they are doing but you don't need to buy them to be able to get them.

CrimsonWing6927d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Oh my bad, I can’t bring up games with microtransactions that nobody had a sh*t fit over. My mistake.

I love how people move the goalpost.

Crows9027d ago

@goose
@crimson

All mtx sucks. I'd rather helldiver's not have them because it makes me wonder if the rate at which you collect materials. That said. The games features are all fully enjoyable and aren't affected by the mtx.

That's not the case with dragons dogma 2...they left in place features that are supposedly part of the challenge of the game only to let you buy your way out very conveniently. I didn't look through all of them but I've heard some are rare but can be purchased with more money now. Even more so in a game about managing weight load there's a tent, I believe, that you can pay more money for that weighs less than your typical tent...not all sure on all the mtx and I'm aware that you can purchase many through in game vendor but they're incredibly useful mtx that are obtained much more slowly in game...or even a limited amount of them.

Instead is selling fast travel...just let us don't for free....or instead of selling cosmetic changes...how about letting us do it for free...

Nothing in helldivers comes close to this abomination

Angyobangyo27d ago

One is a single player game and one is a live service game. One is $40 vs$70. And most importantly, one game is there to spread democracy.

Ironmike26d ago

It's not incredibly easy for certain things in helldivers though u still have grind quite bit but u ate correct in saying u can eventually get enough medals to purchase stuff

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Moegooner27d ago

Read your comment again and maybe, just maybe you might realise how dumb it was.

CrimsonWing6927d ago (Edited 27d ago )

What was dumb about it? That I pointed out the hypocrisy?

garos8227d ago

It was extremely scummy that capcom hid this from reviewers. I have no doubt this game is good but these type of microtransactions don't sit well with me. They've lost a sale from me

Lionsguard27d ago

I was going to pay full price to support this game because I've been waiting for it for forever but I think I'll wait until I get it for free from Epic or a Humblebundle monthly.

Redemption-6427d ago

I am not defending Capcom, as I am not a fan of MTX in single player games. I do however belive they were open to reviewers about having MTX in their game. The reviewers just decided to leave that part out. Which is very disingenuous. There are some companies that get away with these things. Image if this was done by EA, Ubisoft, or even Activision? I am positive those defending Capcom, would have had their pitchforks ready if the companies listed above did this

anast27d ago

That's why reviewers can't be trusted. In fact, they are not reviewers at all. They get free codes to talk about stuff they don't understand nor care about.

Sanctusone26d ago

I mean it was pretty obvious to anyone with eyes...one of the items you get from deluxe edition was in game items.
1500 Rift Crystals - Points to Spend Beyond the Rift (A)
Which honestly I figured they kept a similar mtx system like DMC5 and the optional red orbs.

Lionsguard26d ago

1500 Rift Crystals doesn't mean anything. The first game had Rift crystals too, you just earned them by people hiring your Pawn and you get it from certain quests.

anast26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

A reviewer's job is to point out the obvious of a product as though they were the consumer. This means reviewers, to do their actual job, would need to review the complete game: the edition they are reviewing, how they got the game, technical aspects, story, and monetization scheme. Since, it is obvious that MT's are a part of the game, it would need to be reviewed. This way people can be informed, so they can decide if they want to play this style of game/monetization scheme.

For example, AC Origins was bad with Mt's. I had to farm side missions or pay to advance the story. This was after I already did close to 25 or more side missions. While I was grinding there were constant reminders that I could pay to ease the grind. I would have never bought the game if it were reviewed properly.

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