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American Chart for Week Ending 15th December 2007 (360 and PS3 outsell Wii?)

VGChartz Reports for the Week ending Dec 15, 2007, American Sales were as follows:

DS: 704,805
360: 330,501
PS2: 253,824
PSP: 251,689
PS3: 192,730
Wii: 173,798

Is that all Wii were available or is VGChartz undertracking Wii's on the market? 170K (30% decline) seems strange....

Unreal Tournament III openned up PS3 with 69,768, which basically has outsold PC counter-part.

Half-Life 2: The Orange Box sold 36,490

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Relcom5965d ago (Edited 5965d ago )

Where all these gay VG charts get released and everyone goes
B-A-N-A-N-A-S.

I know people wanna say yeah the Wii fad is passing (me included) but its simply a supply issue. Because the demand is sure there.

unlimited5965d ago

Wii is selling less due to shortages. The 360 isnt really blowing out the PS3 in sales..If you look at world wide sales the PS3 is actually selling a little better then their enemy(360). I expect this Christmas to be a battle..I think Sony have to do really good through out 0'8 they have to out sell the 360 every month. I am certain with all the heavy hitter games coming out it will happen.

Gondee5965d ago

Is i just me or was UT3 a AAA title? isnt it suposed to sell millions?

Just a side note. But with the looks of 360 gamers i think UT3 would have sold a million copies first day on 360. Who else thinks that to?

Kr1555965d ago

The Ps3 version was a limited release. They rushed it out for Christmas cool thing is even with the limited release it outsold it's pc counterpart. To be honest though I don't care if it sells millions (of course Sony might) The game is funner than Halo.

Ju5965d ago

The US market is still huge - at least for 360 sales. 2M 360 software titles a week is immense, vs. 664 in the EU (and somebody above mentioned that. The PS3 sold 711k SW titles last week, that is, more PS3 SW then 360 in EU).

Also, 330k units sold. But, actually I am impressed, that the European market either seems to catch up or is bigger then expected. The PS3 sold more units (192k) in the US then 360 in Europe (172k). OTHO, the PS3 did not sell more units (255k) in Europe then 360 in the US (330k). But 255k units a week is a pretty respectable number - and the PS3 sold more in EU then in US (total numbers), also, the installbase is growing faster in EU then in the US, and is about on par already (with about ~5 month lesser sales).

US is 360 land. No doubt about it. Might also be some form of patriotism. Probably. Or the market is simply more price driven then elsewhere.

godofthunder105964d ago

i went to best buy yesterday to buy allpro football for the 360 because it was on sell for $10 and while i was there i seen 4 people buying 360s and not 1 buying a ps3,now i was only there for about 20 to 30 minutes so they might have sold a lot of ps3 later on.while i was there they had $500 br players on sell for $145 and if i would've had the money i would've bought it but christmas broke me.
the only reason that i could think they was on sell was maybe they was the older models and the new br disc that's coming out want play in them so they are trying to sell them befor the new br disc comes out and they will be obsolete but it was still worth the money just because for regular dvds because it was the one that the front comes down when you press a button and it had a blue glow to it ,so it would've made my home intertainment system look better.

Snukadaman5964d ago

selling 69k...im sure most of you thought it would be in the 100ks at least....again ps3 owners show why its just not worth it to have exclusives....america is smart...people aint falling for hyperbole and waiting. and like every week..another excuse..some people cant admit to games being on their system being a flop....every week the excuse changes...first it was ratchet and clank and uncharted selling just 2 days...but next week we will see the same numbers or lower.

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Cyrus3655965d ago

Hopefully I don't get slack for this news story as for the worldwide number, honest mistake, I didn't know it didn't include the japanese numbers.

Strange about the Wii numbers though, is that all they had supply for this week?

Genuine5965d ago

Don't sweat it, we all make mistakes sometimes. Don't pay any attention to TANOD, he seriously seems to have issues.

iceice1235965d ago

Playstation 3. We hardly knew you. :'(
360: 330,501

PS3: 192,730

Cyrus3655965d ago

Not really considering Ps3 outsells 360 in europe and Japan, my other new report (Not including Japan) shows 360 has about 50K lead over Ps3, and then if you include the Japan numbers, that obviously skrinks significantly, to almost selling on par to one another.

xsteinbachx5965d ago

why do people always disagree especially when they don't understand?

chrno65965d ago

Another delusional 360 fanoby thinking that America represents the whole world.

lonestarmt5965d ago

your brain. We hardly knew you :(

look at the world wide sales lol

iceice1235965d ago

Another blind lemming who thinks Japan represents the world.

crazypuppet5965d ago

so even though the ps3 outsold the xbox 360 in europe by 80k the 360 outsold the ps3 is america by 140k which means the xbox 360 sold 60k more then teh ps3 this month(i swear to god if anyone calls me a xboxbot because i dont even have a ps3 and a 360)

TANOD5965d ago

we hardly knew you

PS3 has surpassed x360 in EU and JAPAN (even in terms of total sales in just 6 months)

192k is a very good number

VGCHARTS numbers also understimate ps3 sales....so wait for NPD before bullcrapping

TheXgamerLive5965d ago

But yes the ps3 is the better seller only in hardware only in Japan, in Japan the Xbox 360 still outsells the ps3 in games and this includes Europe too.

So he's basically right, bye bye ps3, ..........................naaa , the ps3 will continue to hang in there.

Lucreto5965d ago

RIP 360/Wii/PS3 actually none at all.

360 has the US market but Ps3 has the Japanese Market and it will gain control of the European market before the summer.

I leave out the Wii as I don't think a 89 year old women count as gamers.

How exactly is the US market bigger?

WilliamRLBaker5965d ago

except cyrus the ps3 doesn't outsell the 360, all those other countries mean nothing, the UK is a bunch of different countries, its sales alone outpace all other countries combined over there.

learn your figures.

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salgoods5965d ago

Ladies and gentleman,

LETS GET READY TO R-U-M-B-L-E!!

Relcom5965d ago

I got popcorn and the refresh button ready. This will keep me entertained at work.

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70 percent of devs unsure of live-service games sustainability

With so many games fighting for players' attention and interest losing out over time, time sink games are at risk of eventually losing steam.

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thorstein13h ago

It was worrisome to begin with.

It's a niche genre with only a handful of hits that can stand the test of time.

CrimsonWing6912h ago

What’s to be unsure of!? Look at the ratio of success to failure!

shinoff218311h ago

Yes. Stop all the live service bs.

jznrpg10h ago

Only a few will catch on. You need a perfect storm to be successful in GaaS and a bit of luck on top of that. But a potential cash cow will keep them trying and some will go out of business because of it.

MIDGETonSTILTS1710h ago

Helldivers 2 manages just fine…

Keep production costs low… don’t just make custscenes until the mechanics and enemies are perfected first.

Make so much content that you can drip extra content for years, and the game already feels complete without them.

Most importantly: make weapons, enemies, levels, and mechanics that will stand the test of 1000 hours. This might require more devs embracing procedurally generated leveled, which I think separates Helldivers 2 from Destiny’s repetitiveness.

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The Battle Pass Is The Worst Thing To Happen To Modern Gaming

Nameer from eXputer: "Some exceptions aside, I don't think the battle pass is a net positive for gaming with how they're implemented in most live service titles."

got_dam15h ago

Battle passes AND meta gaming both.

DivineHand12513h ago(Edited 13h ago)

I like the way Helldivers 2 does battle passes. It allows you to make purchases on each level of the battle pass and gives you the option of choosing which item to unlock first. The more purchases you make using medals the further you progress. There is no timer and you can earn medals towards purchasing stuff via personal orders and Major orders.

I haven't played much live service games that have battle passes but I remember some games that have battle passes where you progress through it linearly using an exp system. What makes it really bad is that the battle pass will have like 50 or more levels with the cooler stuff being closer to the end. They also have an in-game shop that sells exp boosters so you can reach the end of the pass before it refreshes. Everyone ilse will have to grind their way through.

lucian22912h ago

battle pass in fortnite is perfect; buy one and it buys the rest for every other season as it gives you more money than the first cost. so 8.50 and season ends with you getting 13.00, it pays for the next and you have some pocket change to save up for cash shop. All of which is optional

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PS5 Pro specs leak video taken down by Sony

Sony is taking actions as video by Moore’s Law is Dead, has been issued with a copyright claim.

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andy851d 8h ago

And people say it's all fake because Sony haven't said anything 😂 conveniently forget the PS4 Pro was only announced 2 months before release.

BeHunted1d 8h ago

It's fake. There's no factual evidence other than his own made up specs.

Hereandthere1d 8h ago

What were the specks Sony was afraid of showing?

Shikoku1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

Digital foundry put a video out saying what he leaked was exactly what they also knew about the PS5 PRO. So no it's not just stuff he made up

Babadook71d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

If it’s fake what copyright does MLID infringe upon?

😂

andy851d 4h ago

Aye because they'd go to the effort of copyright claiming it if it didn't exist 🙃😂 you'd have to be a special kind to be thinking its not a thing by now

Cacabunga1d 3h ago

They need to reveal it with uncharted killzone or a heavy hitter like this

Ironmike1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

U mean the specs that we'll established digital foundry which said these are the actual specs published a video on 2 weeks ago I mean they are only one of most trusted sites for tech information but they just made up a video for the sake of it

Christopher13h ago

I would love for it all to be fake, but lots of people are saying they've seen/heard the same thing. But, man, we 100% don't need mid-gen upgrades when we're failing hard to optimize current hardware.

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Seraphim9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

if I recall Sony lowered sales expectations for PS5 earlier this year. if that is the case we won't hear anything about a Pro until next year or shortly before/when it's dropping. After all, if the Pro was dropping this year/fiscal year they wouldn't have lowered expectations.

As for squashing rumors. Yeah, shit like this prevents potential buyers from adopting now, just like slim rumors in the past. It only makes sense to keep things under wraps from a business perspective. Despite living in a technological age of unfettered access to information we don't need to know whats going on behind closed doors be that at Sony, Nintendo, MS, or amongst any development studios. When the steak is done we shall feast.

JackBNimble8h ago

By the time games are actually made to take advantage of the pro spec's the ps6 will be released or close to it.

jznrpg1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

Just announce it already! I want to preorder one asap. But in reality they don’t want to lessen PS5 sales until Pro is ready to launch so I understand the business part of it. September is probably when they announce it with an early November launch like the PS4 Pro

Ironmike1d 3h ago

Pro won't lessen sales sames ps4 pro never and the ps4 pro was more relevant at the time cos move to 4k this not needed

RaidenBlack20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Yea, my brother got his PS4 (coz of a good deal) after the PS4 Pro's release.

darthv7217h ago

^^same here. I got a base 4 for only $100 off a guy who bought the Pro. then a few months later I found a guy on craigslist selling a pro for $100 because it was left behind by his former roommate who moved out. That was the beginning of my obsession to buy up the different variants of the PS4 that were released.

As of now I am really only missing the 500m one and the gold slim but otherwise I have pretty much all the other retail ones. https://consolevariations.c...

crazyCoconuts10h ago

Anyone with 4K that appreciates 60fps is gonna disagree about it not being needed.
DLSS is a god send for Nvidia, and there's been nothing like it for AMD...yet ...

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DeadlyFire15h ago

They will announce it around E3 timeframe about May-June whenever they do a showcase for the year.

neutralgamer19921d 7h ago

Just announce it this thing will sell well

Ironmike1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

I don't think it will pll still haven't seen the potential of ps5 yet

Cacabunga13h ago

agreed, but it might sell if they announce some 1st party games to lead the way. if people see the difference with the base version they can move on. for my sake I am still gaming mainly on PS4 (still not finished with RDR2 due to lack of gaming time). I have a huge backlog on PS5 I am hoping to get into.

mark3214uk22h ago

why? game makers havnt even come close to maxing out current spec yet, were getting al lthese new TFlops and game maker are making crappy remakes not worthy of the ps3

Minute Man 72118h ago

The guts of the 5 and X are 5 years old

fr0sty11h ago

People keep saying that, yet we still have games running at near HD resolutions, 30fps, and ray tracing features turned off.

PRIMORDUS1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

I would take that video and upload a torrent of it, fuck that copyright bullshit. If your going to do something that has a chance of being taken down, make a torrent first share it. Then Sony or any other company is helpless and you can laugh in their faces, taunting them to try to take it down 🤣

LoveSpuds21h ago

With kind of analysis and advice, you could be a lawyer for Trump!🤣

tronyx1221h ago

As much as the PS4 Pro didn't represent a major % in the playerbase, announcing a 'better' model will hinder sales from the 'base' model. They are right, business-wise.

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