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American Chart for Week Ending 15th December 2007 (360 and PS3 outsell Wii?)

VGChartz Reports for the Week ending Dec 15, 2007, American Sales were as follows:

DS: 704,805
360: 330,501
PS2: 253,824
PSP: 251,689
PS3: 192,730
Wii: 173,798

Is that all Wii were available or is VGChartz undertracking Wii's on the market? 170K (30% decline) seems strange....

Unreal Tournament III openned up PS3 with 69,768, which basically has outsold PC counter-part.

Half-Life 2: The Orange Box sold 36,490

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Relcom5963d ago (Edited 5963d ago )

Where all these gay VG charts get released and everyone goes
B-A-N-A-N-A-S.

I know people wanna say yeah the Wii fad is passing (me included) but its simply a supply issue. Because the demand is sure there.

unlimited5963d ago

Wii is selling less due to shortages. The 360 isnt really blowing out the PS3 in sales..If you look at world wide sales the PS3 is actually selling a little better then their enemy(360). I expect this Christmas to be a battle..I think Sony have to do really good through out 0'8 they have to out sell the 360 every month. I am certain with all the heavy hitter games coming out it will happen.

Gondee5963d ago

Is i just me or was UT3 a AAA title? isnt it suposed to sell millions?

Just a side note. But with the looks of 360 gamers i think UT3 would have sold a million copies first day on 360. Who else thinks that to?

Kr1555963d ago

The Ps3 version was a limited release. They rushed it out for Christmas cool thing is even with the limited release it outsold it's pc counterpart. To be honest though I don't care if it sells millions (of course Sony might) The game is funner than Halo.

Ju5963d ago

The US market is still huge - at least for 360 sales. 2M 360 software titles a week is immense, vs. 664 in the EU (and somebody above mentioned that. The PS3 sold 711k SW titles last week, that is, more PS3 SW then 360 in EU).

Also, 330k units sold. But, actually I am impressed, that the European market either seems to catch up or is bigger then expected. The PS3 sold more units (192k) in the US then 360 in Europe (172k). OTHO, the PS3 did not sell more units (255k) in Europe then 360 in the US (330k). But 255k units a week is a pretty respectable number - and the PS3 sold more in EU then in US (total numbers), also, the installbase is growing faster in EU then in the US, and is about on par already (with about ~5 month lesser sales).

US is 360 land. No doubt about it. Might also be some form of patriotism. Probably. Or the market is simply more price driven then elsewhere.

godofthunder105962d ago

i went to best buy yesterday to buy allpro football for the 360 because it was on sell for $10 and while i was there i seen 4 people buying 360s and not 1 buying a ps3,now i was only there for about 20 to 30 minutes so they might have sold a lot of ps3 later on.while i was there they had $500 br players on sell for $145 and if i would've had the money i would've bought it but christmas broke me.
the only reason that i could think they was on sell was maybe they was the older models and the new br disc that's coming out want play in them so they are trying to sell them befor the new br disc comes out and they will be obsolete but it was still worth the money just because for regular dvds because it was the one that the front comes down when you press a button and it had a blue glow to it ,so it would've made my home intertainment system look better.

Snukadaman5962d ago

selling 69k...im sure most of you thought it would be in the 100ks at least....again ps3 owners show why its just not worth it to have exclusives....america is smart...people aint falling for hyperbole and waiting. and like every week..another excuse..some people cant admit to games being on their system being a flop....every week the excuse changes...first it was ratchet and clank and uncharted selling just 2 days...but next week we will see the same numbers or lower.

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Cyrus3655963d ago

Hopefully I don't get slack for this news story as for the worldwide number, honest mistake, I didn't know it didn't include the japanese numbers.

Strange about the Wii numbers though, is that all they had supply for this week?

Genuine5963d ago

Don't sweat it, we all make mistakes sometimes. Don't pay any attention to TANOD, he seriously seems to have issues.

iceice1235963d ago

Playstation 3. We hardly knew you. :'(
360: 330,501

PS3: 192,730

Cyrus3655963d ago

Not really considering Ps3 outsells 360 in europe and Japan, my other new report (Not including Japan) shows 360 has about 50K lead over Ps3, and then if you include the Japan numbers, that obviously skrinks significantly, to almost selling on par to one another.

xsteinbachx5963d ago

why do people always disagree especially when they don't understand?

chrno65963d ago

Another delusional 360 fanoby thinking that America represents the whole world.

lonestarmt5963d ago

your brain. We hardly knew you :(

look at the world wide sales lol

iceice1235963d ago

Another blind lemming who thinks Japan represents the world.

crazypuppet5963d ago

so even though the ps3 outsold the xbox 360 in europe by 80k the 360 outsold the ps3 is america by 140k which means the xbox 360 sold 60k more then teh ps3 this month(i swear to god if anyone calls me a xboxbot because i dont even have a ps3 and a 360)

TANOD5963d ago

we hardly knew you

PS3 has surpassed x360 in EU and JAPAN (even in terms of total sales in just 6 months)

192k is a very good number

VGCHARTS numbers also understimate ps3 sales....so wait for NPD before bullcrapping

TheXgamerLive5963d ago

But yes the ps3 is the better seller only in hardware only in Japan, in Japan the Xbox 360 still outsells the ps3 in games and this includes Europe too.

So he's basically right, bye bye ps3, ..........................naaa , the ps3 will continue to hang in there.

Lucreto5963d ago

RIP 360/Wii/PS3 actually none at all.

360 has the US market but Ps3 has the Japanese Market and it will gain control of the European market before the summer.

I leave out the Wii as I don't think a 89 year old women count as gamers.

How exactly is the US market bigger?

WilliamRLBaker5963d ago

except cyrus the ps3 doesn't outsell the 360, all those other countries mean nothing, the UK is a bunch of different countries, its sales alone outpace all other countries combined over there.

learn your figures.

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salgoods5963d ago

Ladies and gentleman,

LETS GET READY TO R-U-M-B-L-E!!

Relcom5963d ago

I got popcorn and the refresh button ready. This will keep me entertained at work.

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What the game industry must do to prevent occupational burnout

Game industry working conditions are improving, but occupational burnout still runs amok. Studios and workers have the power to slow it down.

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anast1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

Quite being abusive to the workers and hold management accountable.

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Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Has Reportedly Sold About Half of What FF7 Remake Did in the Same Timeframe

The acclaimed open world action RPG is "underperforming" where its sales are concerned, according to industry analyst Daniel Ahmad.

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raWfodog2d ago

“Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Has Reportedly Sold About Half of What FF7 Remake Did in the Same Timeframe”

Makes sense to me since the current PS5 base is about half of what the PS4 base was when FFVII Remake released.

There were about 113 million PS4’s in consumers hands worldwide in 2020 when FFVII Remake was released (towards the beginning of COVID lockdown no less).

PS5 sales currently sits at about half of that (50-something million. We are not in COVID lockdown so many people are not as bored as they were 4 years ago and not in a rush to buy every video game coming out at release. Some PS4 owners may not have upgraded to PS5 yet and therefore can’t buy the sequel yet. And, of course, some who played Remake just might not be interested in Rebirth.

It just seems pretty disingenuous for an analyst to ‘analyze’ a situation when there are so many mitigating and unequal factors involved.

OtterX2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Yes, this and also finishing part 1 of the Final Fantasy Remake trilogy weighs heavily on it too. There's always a huge percentage of gamers who never finish the games they purchase. It's not always due to lack of enjoyment, but also life priorities etc. But factor that into the knowledge that Rebirth is a straight continuation of the story, and enjoyment lies heavily on having finished the first, you can begin to understand why not as many players jumped in. But absolutely too, the lesser install base of the PS5 played a huge role!

jjb19812d ago

I started the game when it came out, played about 2/3 of the way through and finished the rest in the last month before rebirth came out. There are just too many games and too much adulting to do.

Eonjay1d 11h ago

It sold about half... with about half as many PS5s available as PS4 had when it launched in 2020. So... the tie ratio is about the same. As PS5s continue to sale it should eventually match Remake. It's a really good game.

fr0sty1d 9h ago

I think there's going to be another wave of buyers that purchase the game once the third part of the trilogy is released, especially if they release it as a bundle.

jambola2d ago

Excuse me sir
Industry analyst Daniel Ahmad said this 🙄

Obscure_Observer2d ago

"Industry analyst Daniel Ahmad said this 🙄"

That guy is director of research & insights at Niko Partners.

https://nikopartners.com/

But he shouldn´t be trusted according to some "trust me bro" N4G random. Smh

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Barlos1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

Obscure Observer, so by your logic, we should also trust Pachter? Come on, it's like you're not even trying any more.

MrNinosan1d 14h ago

@Obscure
"We cover China, Chinese Taipei, Egypt, India, Indonesia, Japan, Malaysia, Philippines, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, South Korea, Thailand, United Arab Emirates, and Vietnam."

Yepp, very trusted and the biggest areas for videogame sales.

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Tody_ZA1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

@raWfodog You'd think an analyst would catch these facts, but just goes to show what gaming analysts are made of. We've only in the last year moved to PS5 only games, in addition to the install base cross-gen has been around for years. There are a lot of PS4 players still over there. It's amazing when people compare things whilst isolating all the significant facts.

And Rebirth being a direct sequel is also valid: anecdotally, I've just started FF7 Remake a week ago and I'm loving it, on Chapter 8, but I'm obviously not going to buy Rebirth until I complete the story which will take time.

Ironmike1d 11h ago

But it's hasn't sold as much the articles om Google stating bit so what if it hasn't the game is still great better than remake which tailed of in middle-of-the- game

TheEroica1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

Apologists always know what to say... 👍
Is it possible to squeeze in one more excuses for FF7 sales? Go for it!

Tody_ZA1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

@TheEroica Understand the meaning of the words you use or don't use them. An apologist argues in defense of something controversial or problematic. Pointing out relevant facts that an analysis or article did not take into account is constructive feedback and discussion. There are great movies, games and other forms of art that don't sell as expected, but later gain financial success.

Example? The Godfather Part 2 underperformed financially compared to its predecessor but is widely hailed as one of the greatest films and sequels of all time and is still influential to this day. And no, I'm not comparing Final Fantasy 7 to the Godfather, before you draw that strawman. There is one loose similarity however in that Rebirth is also overwhelmingly acclaimed and considered superior to the first.

Given the decision to split Final Fantasy VII into three separate games, of which Rebirth released exclusively for PS5 leaving the PS4 install base behind, and the final installment due in 2027, the sales performance is a bit more of a conversation than you're trying to make it out to be.

Crows901d 15h ago

Didn't even mention price increases across the board for all games...this causes all people to be more picky and limit game purchases

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GoodGuy092d ago

Unfortunate but it's the reality of sequels. And I simply just don't hear much people talk about rebirth and even remake as these titles just seem too hard to get into with many newcomers and old fans that are upset with the many changes.

Eonjay1d 11h ago

The games are really good and both acclaimed and Rebirth is even better than Remake with a 90+ metascore but if you don't want to 'hear' the praise... you probably wont.

TheProfessional1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

It's kind of ridiculous how some people here are just making stuff up to explain the low sales. Just because you bought the game and you like it doesn't mean it sold better than it did. Same with FFXVI.

rpvenom1d 2h ago

For me its cause now that i know it releases on pc.. id rather play it with mods on my pc than my ps5

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gold_drake2d ago

well, according to some other reports, it had 2.1 mio. players in the first week.

so, who to believe now.

ZeekQuattro2d ago

It's safe to say if it sold that Square would of made a sales milestone announcement like they did with past FF entries or other IPs in general. They did a FF16 sales update within 2 weeks after it launched for instance.

gold_drake2d ago

there is no way this game hasnt already sold more than remake.

there doesnt need to be an announcement for everything, especially not if they released several updates amd the ultimania.

people are too obsessed with sales

CrimsonWing692d ago

I think there’s a reason we haven’t seen a celebratory tweet from Square on the sales. It came out on Feb. 29th and it’s Apr. 13th right now… that ain’t a good sign. I think this one can reach 3 mill at some point but will be behind Remake, which when it comes to business, that ain’t good.

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Josh Sawyer, Pentiment Director, Comments on Industry Burnout Issues

Josh Sawyer tweets: "I believe burnout has already replaced crunch as the primary hazard of the game industry. Managers are setting teams up to fail and devs are getting ground up as collateral damage. I have suffered from burnout myself. It's no joke. Thanks to @thewritegame and @Eeoor for the talk.

As with crunch, it's likely that managers may acknowledge creating the circumstances leading to burnout but will not take the necessary steps to change them. It's important that devs continue to talk to and support each other and to apply pressure until change is effected."

anast3d ago

Typically burnout comes from abusive management.

N3mzor3d ago

"Flood has replaced the faulty dam as the primary hazard of the valley"