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The Top 10 Game Sub-Plots That Are More Interesting Than The Main Plot

GS writes: Sub-plots are meant as the foil to the main plot. They might provide comic relief, they might deal with the theme from another perspective, they might let the characters rest between the main events, or at worst, fillers. But what they all have in common is that they are secondary to the main plot, and therefore less interesting and meaningful, yes?

Not always. Sometimes the sideplots happen to be more interesting or meaningful than the main ones. Here are 10 examples.

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mistajeff4266d ago

For me, it's the intricate story weaved together from the narrative threads in the fallout new Vegas dlcs. Each episode is a self contained story that ties back into significant events in the Mojave wasteland, but they weave together to tell a story that successfully reveals the origins of the courier while managing not to imply anything about the quality of the player's character. Not only that, but lonesome road provides a hidden background to the main story that reveals new Vegas is as much of a sequel to fallout 2 as fallout 2 is to fallout 1. Not a direct continuation of events, but a chance to see the impact that the events of the previous game can have decades down the line. Not to mention that some of the dlc characters are some of the best characters I've encountered in any medium, ever. Not just games.

MadLad4266d ago (Edited 4266d ago )

Obsidian, despite whatever criticisms some people hold against the developer, are definitely strong in the writing department.

I really would like to see them work on another Fallout title in the future.

SolDojo4266d ago

I'll probably get a lot of disagrees on this but, I think New Vegas is one of, if not the, best game ever made.

The writing carries it so far, and the Shooter/RPG gameplay mix is very appealing to me. I turned off fast travel and used a motorcycle to get around the wasteland, giving the game a distinct driving aspect as well. So to me its a shooter/driving game/rpg, with all of the elements being excellent.

Likewise, the setting is beyond stellar, 50s themed future Las Vegas meets uber apocalypse. Amazing. I'm really not surprised Bethesda gave them the go ahead on this.

MadLad4266d ago (Edited 4266d ago )

I couldn't agree more. It's possibly my favorite game of this generation, and is easily in my list of top three games.

I never understood the hate some people held for the game. It did everything that Fallout 3 did, but better, and they accomplished this in about a third of the development time. They are a hard working group of very talented people.

To me, it's simply the true modernized sequel to the original games, where Bethesda, more or less, just created a high quality Oblivion mod. It was fun, but it wasn't a faithful Fallout game in most ways. It was too streamlined, focused too little on player choice, and the writing simply got the job done. Nothing more, nothing less. All things that Obsidian largely, largely improved upon with New Vegas.

mistajeff4266d ago

I wholeheartedly agree with what you guys are saying. I loved Fallout 3, but when I tried to go back and replay it after running through New Vegas twice, I got about 5 hours in before I realized I was extremely bored. The social interaction is flat-out bland, and the gameplay felt extremely lacking without the reputation and faction system that you could screw with in New Vegas. Even the shooting felt boring without any ammo types or weapon mods. Fallout 3 worked as an elder scrolls-style RPG, but definitely not as a Fallout-style RPG. The world wasn't fully realized (200 years after the blast and NO ONE knows how to farm? Shady Sands was a community based around farming, and that was 80 years after the war) and they completely butchered the lore. I've always felt that choice and consequence is the most important element to a good Fallout game, and Fallout 3's implementation felt extremely under-baked, especially next to New Vegas. I sincerely hope that Obsidian gets to use the license again, and if so, that they are given a REAL development cycle so their full vision can be realized. And hopefully, next time, Bethesda won't ax their QA testing.

Blacklash934266d ago (Edited 4266d ago )

I found Obsidian to have much better writing and characters, but Bethesda to have much better open-world design and atmosphere. I wouldn't call either of their Fallout games a masterpiece because both had their respective weaknesses.

Them co-developing FO4 would be cool beans. They would complete each other. Probably wouldn't happen, though.

Kin23g4266d ago

Totally agree with Morrigan's story being number 1 .. it really is the best side-story of all time, and it's one of the main reasons why DA:Origins is on my Top-3-Games-of-All-Time list.

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versusALL4266d ago

Totally agree with Mass Effect 2.

Hoje03084266d ago

Yet another site without a real writer on staff.

MrMister4266d ago

Whoa, am I the only one who thought that Laguna was Rhinoa's Dad, not Squall's?

WildArmed4265d ago (Edited 4265d ago )

Not really.

The game was pretty clear that Squall was Raine and Laguna's child.

Esp. since the moombas kept calling him Laguna due to having the same blood line.

Thou it is true that Laguna was in love w/ Rinoa's mom, but Rinoa was not Laguna's child.

A huge FF8 fan here <3

FinaLXiii4266d ago

A matter of opinion i didnt cared about laguna´s story very much actually.

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10 PS1 Games That Actually Need A Remake

With hundreds of games, some of which are considered to be classics that hold up to this day, you’ve got the pick of the litter when it comes to choosing a potential remake

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RaidenBlack14d ago

^This. THIS!
Stop remaking PS4 games!
Remake PS1 and PS2 games à la FF7R, RE1, Mafia, Half Life style ....
Make Legend of Dragoon, Legacy of Kain etc Remakes happen

darthv7214d ago

Legend of Dragoon... WTH is Sony doing just letting this one squander?

-Foxtrot14d ago

I wonder if their mindset is like “meh we have Final Fantasy what’s the point of our own JRPG”

FinalFantasyFanatic13d ago

@-Foxtrot,
Square-Enix had a long period there where it seems they didn't know what to do with Final Fantasy, I think that time period would have been a good time to revisit their classics and remake them. Now it seems they're going full steam ahead with the franchise, so they have less reason to revisit those older games. I wouldn't mind if they subcontracted them out to other developers, that and I don't trust SE to remake their older games.

Cacabunga13d ago

Simply because i do not think it will succeed.. maybe a bad example but e we got Medievil remake after many years fans have beg asking... result is It flopped hard. Remaking a JRPG is so risky. Only a bunch of hardcore gamers who played the original would buy it. If Sony put even more budget into it then it’s even more risky.

As i suggested before, i think they should start remaking like square did with Star Ocean. Or something similar to Octopath Traveller. Build up some hype and try on higher scale later on..

Terry_B14d ago

Let me tell you about PS1 games that should get a remake actually.

Jumping Flash (As a VR game)
Ridge Racer 1-4 as Ridge Racers 3..just like the pretty perfect PSP RR1.-2 games but with even more content
Xenogears
Cardinal Sin which was full of nice ideas for its time but was plagued by technical limitations
Bushido Blade ^^ just like CS
Bust A Groove.
WWF Attitude. With the same roster, same voices,Only slightly updated gameplay but current gen graphics
Dynasty Warriors..yes the fighting game that was similar to Tekken 2 while it had weapons.As nice as the DW games are..its a shame they never released a new fighting game

And while I am at it.

Thrill Kill ...hell yes.

KyRo14d ago

Ah Thrill Kill, the game that was banned/cancelled but everyone had played 😂 what a throwback!

darthv7214d ago

jumping Flash would make a great VR game. Im actually quite surprised nobody has thought to do that one... even on the indie side for something like the meta quest.

GhostMirror14d ago

Big yes to Jumping Flash! and Ridge Racer revivals. Bushido Blade was cool as well; it was pretty deep and so much different from other fighting games at the time. Einhander was another good non-RPG from Square, which was kind of rare for them in that era.

Didn’t Thrill Kill eventually get re-skinned and released with a Wu-Tang Clan license? 😂

FinalFantasyFanatic13d ago

I miss Ridge Racer so much, give me a new game or at least a collection of the older games! I had a blast playing Ridge Racer PSP on my PS4 a few months back.

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FinalFantasyFanatic13d ago

I cannot understand the current business practice of remaking games from the previous generation, especially when they are very much playable today and still hold up well, it's even worse when people are willing buying them again. The PS1 generation is so ripe for remakes, I know more than a few people who would clamour for a Xenogears remake, or almost any game from that list.

Ravenkiss14d ago

and Valkyrie Profile Lenneth. They did Star Ocean 1 & 2 R already, VPL should get the same treatment.

Redgrave14d ago

I assume this to mean that you aren't considering the PSP port to be the remake in this statement? Like a remake of that one?

FinalFantasyFanatic13d ago

That version is quite old though, that was 18 years ago, so doing a remake in the vain of Star Ocean might be worth it (I did not think the PSP was that old until I looked it up).

Knightofelemia14d ago

I'd be down for FF8, and Xenogears. But I would also be down for Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross. And I wish Namco would get off their ass and remake or remaster the Xenosaga trilogy.

FinalFantasyFanatic13d ago

There's been talk of a Xenosaga trilogy on the proviso that there was enough demand, I hope that actually happens one day.

Christopher14d ago

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LoveSpuds14d ago

What a fantastic game that was!

Skuletor14d ago

You forgot Tenchu: Stealth Assassins

Snookies1214d ago

Why does From Software not do ANYTHING with this franchise... It's so sad... Can't they at least outsource it to someone to try a revival?

leahcim13d ago

masterpiece, best OST of all times.

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The Evolution of Tekken and PlayStation

See how the franchise and console intertwined over the years.

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Final Fantasy Games That Deserve the Remake Treatment

Final Fantasy has a long running history with numerous numbered titles and spin-offs, but which games stand to benefit from a remake?

gold_drake120d ago

i feel like all of them.
well except 2 haha.

shinoff2183120d ago

Agreed. Ff2 though can be made better, so it's not entirely a lost cause. Ff8 will gets its time. I do wish they'd do the old ones. From ff10 and up those ones still hold up pretty well.

kevco33119d ago

Honestly, I've always felt that VII and up 'hold up well' in that regard. The early 3D games just needed a cosmetic update. But the FFVII Remake is so different to the original in execution that a lot of games could be done in a similar fashion and feel far more modern.

I'm not saying that's a good or bad thing (that depends on your personal preference!), just that they could feel very different.

shinoff2183119d ago

Kevco I liked remake but I think your right. Idda been happy with a 1 to 1 remake that looked like ever crisis to. Or both

I'd just love I square would one day give us a turned based one with today's graphics. I can't really think of a jrpg that does that.

andy85119d ago

I'd rather the 13 trilogy just be ported tbh. No matter what you think if it, it shouldn't be the only numbered offline games not playable on new consoles. But naturally I'd play the **** out of 8-12 remakes.

shinoff2183119d ago

I do agree. I'd give it another shot even though I didn't like it at first. My taste change over time. Gta 4 for instance I was so disappointed it lacked so much of what san andreas had I didn't play it for like 5 years. One day went to a semi pro football game(American football) came home drunk and decided to try 4 again. I actually liked it after giving it a fair shot.

Rebel_Scum119d ago

Just make new games. Not every game needs to be remade.

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