Wii U Can Do “1080p Without Breaking A Sweat”

Developer Two Tribes offered to answer questions – via Twitter – regarding Wii U’s version of Toki Tori 2.

[Abash]

Cant PS3/360 do 1080p without breaking a sweat...... for downloadable games, like Toki Tori 2?

The real test is 1080p retail games

[darthv72]

less talk more action.

Oh and as far as breaking a sweat. Wouldnt you want to break a sweat? It means whatever you are doing is working...so to speak.

[Army_of_Darkness]

1080p retail games?! Show me Nintendo! shoooow Me! and you will gain my respect once again.

[SilentNegotiator]

One of Wii U's first-party games are already confirmed 720p native. Along with others.

http://wiiudaily.com/2012/0...

And those games aren't even impressive graphically or in scale.

I called it when the Wii U was announced and the big dogs of Nintendo danced around a "native 1080p" question from Geoff. I called it again when they showed that unimpressive coy/bird demo.

[DeadlyFire]

It doesn't take much to put on 1080 these days. I expect Sony and Microsoft will claim 1600p capable or something like that.

[DeadlyFire]

Wow you guys don't know much about video cards do ya. I see 6 disagrees and not one trying to say anything about why.

Any decent card from the last 4+ years can push a game out on same level as PS3/X360 at 30+ fps at 1080 resolution.

[Hisiru]

@SilentNegotiator
Pikmin 3 was a Wii game till last year and NSMBU is just a 2D platform and it's not really focused on graphics. If i you think this is unimpressive:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Then I think youre going to be disappointed with the next gen consoles. If youre also expecting to see a lot of PS4/x720 games with 1080p + 60fps and heavy 3D graphics.... oh well.. I feel bad for you. I hope you have a high end PC.

[jeseth]

So couldn't a PS3 ... 6 years ago.

[TruthbeTold]

@Hisiru

That tech demo was awesome. I wonder why they abandoned it so thoroughly? Also the version of the shuriken game in the natural looking forest is way more appealing to me than the 'Nintendo land' version. But yeah, the Wii U is capable of some awesome visuals.

[sikbeta]

New HW tends to do better stuff, it's not a surprise... at all.

[Instigator]

@Darthv72
That's one way to look at it. Although wouldn't it be all the better if you achieved maximum resolution without breaking a sweat? It means that the console has a lot more to go on.

@DeadlyFire
"I see 6 disagrees and not one trying to say anything about why."

You've been here over 2000 days. You know how this works.

I didn't disagree with you, but at best I think 1600p will be to next gen what 1080p is for this gen; Achieveable, but a rarity. There's just no reason to invest in it yet.

Current HDTV's are just starting to find a place in livingrooms, and I don't know of any that's capable of more than 1080p. 1600p will be lost on pretty much everyone, and as such will only be an added expense for the developers, too. Expecting consumers to upgrade to a new TV every generation would be absurd.

[Shok]

He didn't say that for Toki Tori 1080p was easy (although obviously it is), he was saying in-general.

"Two Tribes thinks that the Wii U is ‘awesome’ and claims that it can display games at “1080p without breaking a sweat.”

[Voxelman]

No they asked for questions about their game on Wii U

"How are the graphics turning out?? Are you guys happy on how powerful the WiiU is?” 1080p without breaking a sweat!"

The question is clearly about how the graphics of their game is turning out, to which they replied it was 1080p without breaking a sweat, not surprising considering it's 2D.

Nothing suggests they were talking in general. I mean how could they? They don't know what other developers are doing, in terms of graphics. Except for Nintendo's games which are all 720p, and Scribblenauts another 2D game.

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

"It has been confirmed that the Wii U will be able to play games at 1080p but almost every game we have seen so far has only been running at 720p. Although there has been no official confirmation from the games developers, the Nintendo reps on the Chicago Wii U Experience tour did state Batman: Arkham City – Armored Edition and Assassin’s Creed III will run natively at 1080p."
http://wiiu-gamers.com/news...

Either way I am getting a wiiU, ps4 & my pc so I no worries for me.

Next gen starts when Metro & crysis 3 comes.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[samtheseed]

No it isn't.

[raytraceme]

well u can say bf3 maxed on the pc is a peak of what next gen will be like.

[metroid32]

All 3rd party retail games have been confirmed to be1080p you blind fan boys so thats assasins creed 3 and co.

[LightofDarkness]

Jesus, that CE3 video is amazing!

[Voxelman]

Yes because a random poster on GameFAQs that claim to have been told something by random PR reps, is a reliable source...

[Kos-Mos]

Crysis haha. If everything were about graphics....

[Knight_Crawler]

Me still waiting on Phil Harris promise to play my games at 1080p

[AsimLeonheart]

Bro, the PS3 can play at 1080p BUT it has to sacrifice graphics in the process.I don't know why so many gamers do not understand the relationship between graphics, resolution and frame-rate. People always seem to think that the next generation will bring next-gen graphics, 1080p resolution and 60 fps. All three of these things depend upon each other and the developers' choice. You see if you increase the graphics (polygon count, texture detail, physics and lighting) and display resolution (1080p or 720p), the frame rate will drop. Graphics and resolution have a inversely proportional relationship to frame-rate. If the developer's decide to maintain 60fps then they will have to sacrifice graphics. If they improve the graphics they will have to sacrifice the frame rate. Therefore the developers' settle at the 30fps so they can achieve the highest possible graphical detail at an acceptable frame-rate. It does not matters if it is next-gen or current gen; the trade off between graphics and frame rate is in the hand of the developer. The same is true for the Wii-U

[badz149]

is this guy thinking that gamers only look at resolution?

what's the fps? AA? the machine can display 4k or 8k resolution for all I care but what's the point if the games are like slideshows?

[ChickeyCantor]

It's pretty much implied that it runs at least 30 frames a sec.

"without-breaking-a-swea t" translates pretty much to without trouble.

[tachy0n]

1080p is possible on the PS3 and Xbox360

BUT

with low resolution textures and low FPS

check this video:

[wishingW3L]

Wipeout HD and Virtua Tennis are both 1080p/60fps and look really nice while Toki Tora 2 leave a lot to be desired:

http://www.thereticule.com/...

[Kurt Russell]

Rayman Origins is full 1080 I think... looks superb for it too!

[ZoyosJD]

Well, considering that the PS3 played Ninja Gaiden at 1080p and 30fps, and Wipeout HD and Virtua Tennis run at 1080p and 60fps, so long as the WiiU is processing for one screen then it should be at 1080p and 60fps no matter.

Yet everyone seems to be completely ignoring the fact that the the WiiU has the burden of prossecing for its controller(s) as well. I would assume that this is why devs are hesitant, processing for upto 3 screens in 720p is much harder than 1 in 1080p.

Anyone still claiming that the WiiU is less powerful than 360/PS3 is ignorant of the obvious and you will just have to see it yourself when the WiiU releases.

[akaakaaka]

wow KZ2 still looks next gen lol in most areas... specially gameplay and animations (special effects) are still unmatched next to GOW3

[yabhero]

Uh Oh N4G! Positive WiiU news!
Gotta spin it into something negative!
Go!

[TheGameFoxJTV]

Exactly, we were hearing this at the start of the current gen, lol. Look how well 1080p claims held up for this generation.

[Apex13]

No thy cant and only ps 3 had one or two games that came close. Gow and kz3

All others games were 720 at best

[TemplarDante]

Short, brilliant honest reply and exactly what I was going to say.
1080p for downloadable games.

I cant wait for the real next gen consoles.

[showtimefolks]

Why is this news a system coming out in fall 2012 should be able to do 1080p.

And a system can do 1080p To whether a developer will take advantage of that is a big difference. Expect the same thing 3rd parties will be happy with 720p while 1st and 2nd party studios will help make wii u shine. 3rd parties have a job to make sure each system gets the equal looking/playing games

But here is a thought when xbox720 and ps4 do come out and can get DX11 to work than how good will the wii u be? I am super exacted about playing Nintendo games in HD but lets not get ahead of our self they are only now catching up to what Sony and MS have delivered since 2005-2006. And the moment both of them release their next system they will over shadow wii u tech wise again.

[Oh_Yeah]

nintendo stole this guys idea http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[WeskerChildReborned]

True

[THESONYPS3]

Lol the WiiU will be outdated garbage when the ps4 and 720 are out.

[tachy0n]

the same for the PS4/720. LOL

[Lord_Sloth]

I should hope so since HD hit consoles a generation before it.

Even the original XBox had Ninja Gaiden in HD. Sure it was 480p but it was also 2 generations prior to the Wii U.

[linkratos]

Native 1080p is alot different than upscaled 540p or 720p (which is what you're dealing with on PS360 unless it's a DL game like WipeOut).

[Lord_Sloth]

That has nothing to do with my point. It's the next console generation! If it couldn't do native 1080p then Nintendo would be half the power of it's generation...Again!

[SlavisH2]

ok welcome to current gen! now if it can do 1080p@60fps or 120fps then i'd give the system a second glance!

[linkratos]

Native 1080p is above current gen. 60 fps (@1080p) is also confirmed.

[LX-General-Kaos]

This is very positive news for all future supporters of the Nintendo Wii U entertainment system. Just months away from being blessed with true next generation visuals, and technical prowess.

A special thanks goes to the hard workers under the Nintendo umbrella. For pushing console technical specs and graphical capability to never before seen heights.

1080p will hopefully be the new standard for next Generation on competing consoles as well.

Have a blessed day and happy gaming

Rated E For Everyone

[meganick]

Why do you exist?

[BitbyDeath]

You sure it's coming out this year Kaos? I don't think a date has been set yet by Nintendo yet.

[Apex13]

They have said wold wide by holiday season a lt of times. I think oct/November

[LX-General-Kaos]

As a_adji said i believe they will. Nintendo has said this year quite a few times if i remember correctly. Hopefully no delays for us long time Elite supporters.

[chasegarcia]

@30 fps

[Louis_Guzman]

Sure and I can get steady employment in Hollywood after Carlito's Way.

[stuntman_mike]

lol, you go louis!

[Knight_Crawler]

Freaking hipster GTFO with your puffy hair and Mexican stash.

[YoungPlex]

Umm, he's Puerto Rican genius lol...

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

Haha. That was brilliant!

[TruthbeTold]

He was brilliant as Jacopo in The Count of Monte Cristo. He needs more roles like that.

[Qrphe]

Someone should tell this to Nintendo, since their launch titles will be 720p, and they made the console of course.

[ajax17]

Congrats Nintendo!! You're seven years late to the 1080p party!!

[AO1JMM]

MS and Sony haven't even truly entered said party.

[cuddlemonkey]

Yes they have, its you that haven't.

[PopRocks359]

@cuddlemonkey

Oh come on. Don't be ridiculous. The libraries of both the PS3 and 360 consist of maybe a small fraction of 1080p games. Nearly all the rest of the games for them are upscaled from 720p.

[ChickeyCantor]

"Yes they have, its you that haven't."

I'm seriously starting to root for the PC-guys. Console people just sound more idiotic on hardware as time goes by.

They can't admit that consoles are fairly outdated as soon they are out compared to PC hardware. But when a new console is announced they say it's last gen.

( and don't give me that nonsense on quality of "exclusives" on pcs. They could easily do them )

[samtheseed]

Totally out of context title. The Wii U doesn't break a sweat playing a 2D game at 1080p... fair enough... BUT DON'T TWIST IT TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE HE'S SAYING IT ABOUT ANY GAME. For fucks sake, why is the gaming media so full of shit?

[007Bond]

I have a bad feeling about the Wii U.

[factsorfiction]

I have such a good feeling about wii u

Like shane from game trailers says. Its not if wii u will sell out. Its how fast.

Every nintendo system has been first or second in the world profit wise at some point. And I think the wii u will continue that tradition in fine form

[KwietStorm_BLM]

For a console releasing in 2012, I think a lot of people in suits would be sweating if it DIDN'T output in 1080.

[linkratos]

I love how any Wii U story can be twisted into a negative by N4G.

Textbook example right above me ^

[firelogic]

Why is this even a topic of debate? The thing is coming out 7/8 years AFTER the Xbox 360. Shouldn't it be a GIVEN that it plays 3D games at 1080p native?

[Salamander]

Probably because there is alot of doubt circulating, until we see proof, its all heresay.

[GenHero]

this is the Tweet:

“@Damiano_Chris: How are the graphics turning out?? Are you guys happy on how powerful the WiiU is?”
1080p without breaking a sweat! :)"

[ChunkyLover53]

Not sure why so many people are hating on this news? The Wii U is obviously more powerful than the Xbox 360/PS3. I'm not sure some people are happy about that. I predict the Wii U is around 3x as powerful as current consoles, which would mean it could easily run 1080p 60fps.

That is more then fine by me, especially when you consider the next Xbox and PlayStation are only said to be 5-6x more powerful than their current versions. That would mean that the Wii U wont be gimped as bad as people are trying to make it out to be. I admit the Wii is gimped in the power department when compared to the Xbox 360/PS3, next generation wont be nearly as obvious.

[YoungPlex]

Well said! You friend get a +bubble from me. I'm glad that some people realize this and aren't blinded by some fantasy...

[cuddlemonkey]

Well said, hook me up a + bubble too please

[Smelly1sam]

Yes the Wii U will be the strongest when it comes out. BUT sadly it won't be 3x (i wish) there have been reports that it is close around 1.5x stronger (can't remember the article). On the flip side the system is not out yet and the devs do not know how to use the system to its fullest but the problem with that once they do the next gen PS and Xbox will be out with even stronger hardware. That is why a lot of people are expressing hate on this partly that the Wii kinda lost its love after a few years and that it kinda feels like they are trying to do it again. I can't wait to see what this thing can pump out but I am more pumped to see the next PS and Xbox.

[YoungPlex]

People are funny, first they say; "The Wii U is based off 5-6 year old tech, it won't be able to run games any better than PS3/360!", and now people are all like, "Big deal, it's coming out 6-7 years later it should be able to do it!". I can't get enough of this...

The fact is that it's more modern tech, and like the 3DS, the Wii U will have some really neat shaders and other special tricks, that current gen systems can't do. Yes, I believe it can handle "native" 1080p with no problem, but at the same time think that it will start showing its age a few years into next-gen when the other two consoles start strutting their stuff. For now, lets enjoy this and other great news and stop the hating!

Fact is, the Wii U will be the most powerful system until the other two next-gen consoles come around, and by that time the Wii U will be cheaper and probably filled with a huge library of games. Nintendo has been in the game a long time and have made some mistakes; they've also made many more successful decisions that have put them ahead of the competition. To doubt their judgment is one thing, but doubting their ability to succeed in the gaming market is just plane stupid! I truly think that they're crossing their T's and dotting their I's, this time around... For now, it's good to hear confirmation of the systems resolution, especially by someone other than Nintendo.

[PopRocks359]

In my experience, fanboys and trolls are extremely persistent. A few weeks back, people here were insisting that Wii U could not run Unreal Engine 4.

The moment Epic Games said it was scalable for Wii U, people started saying things like "Oh the ports won't be as good" or "They also said the iPad can run it, who cares?"

People love to hate things. The Wii U's an excellent example of it and it hasn't even come out yet.

[DigitalAnalog]

It's really amusing to see people having faith in regards to the next xbox and playstation assuming it would be far superior to the Wii U. And yet, these "gamers" continue to betray their expectations by demanding cheap consoles, refusing to buy better technology at a bargain price (Vita), and then complain about the high price range when the PS3 was released.

You really think the hardware companies are going to give you TEH BEST AND THE GREATEST tech with a $299 device? My prediction is that when the next XBOX or PSX would be released, the power difference between them and the Wii-U would be like the Xbox to the PS2. In other words, there would be NOTHING the Wii-U can't do what the supposed next-gen does.

Unless of course, you're willing to drop down $499 per console.

[Lucretia]

yet there are still games for the wii-u that wont be 1080p lol

[Shok]

You're right, EVERY Wii U game should run in native 1080p, just like every game this gen ran in native 720p, right?

[Shok]

3 disagrees? Anyone care to prove to me that every game this gen runs in native 720p? Lol.

[PopRocks359]

@Lucretia

What sort of crazy expectations do you have?

[Lucretia]

no its nothing crazy. im just saying. if it says it can do it with out breaking a sweat then why isn't it doing it for everything?

its just common sense. not alot to ask for if they are boasting it.

1080-720p doesnt matter to me, but just saying. dont boast if you cant do it

[PopRocks359]

When every developer understands new hardware the way these guys seem to right from the get-go, is the day I'll agree with your point.

[Puddlejumper75]

Sony promised it and still hasnt delivered. Bet we wont see you hating on them. You really have no understanding of what you are talking about and your ignorance wont sway anyone but like minded idiots who never supported nintendo to begin with.
The fail,is strong in,this one.
Or in the voice of cptn planet
the failure is yours

Btw common sense is something u obviously know nothing about

[BitbyDeath]

@Puddle, Sony did it already.
You can probably find a list on Wiki somewhere.

[Salamander]

It costs more money to produce a 1080p game.

[BitbyDeath]

I think the launch games aren't 1080p cause the devs are required to make entire new engines and do not have large amounts of time to get it right. The second wave (from the same devs) will likely be up there though.

[TruthbeTold]

I want to know the price more than anything else. Even more than the release date.

[glennco]

doubt i'll get the next wii, rarely played the current one. but we still need it on the market to give parents a decent console choice for younger kids.

[yabhero]

^ This is an example of bad marketing on Nintendo's part...

[Salamander]

Did your parents get you your Wii? they probably wont get you a WiiU, since you dont play your Wii much.

BTW nice stealth troll.

[Romudeth]

Don't talk about it, be about it Nintendo. Show me.

[SolidDuck]

I hope your right chunky. I hope its 3 times as powerful as current Gen. Ill be picking it up then. But if its closer to current Gen ill likely wait for ps4,nextbox. And 1080p means nothing. Is it upscaled like 360 and ps3. Or native. And what types of games if any are native. And at what fps. Can it run the gamepad screen when running at 1080.Many questions still. The u in wiiu must stand for unknown, cause Nintendo wont tell us.

[cuddlemonkey]

I want HDD and achievements of please Wii u

[Puddlejumper75]

Wow gotta love these comments. Any time a developer says something postive about wii u fanboys will want to prwtend they know more about.

Name any retail ps3 game that runs native 1080p.. Im sorry Sony took advantage of your ignorance but at least nintendo os able to deliver on what phony promised 7 years ago. Its not nintendos fault u got fooled.
.

Seems your hate is misplaced. Glad im not a fanboy and willl be able to experience next gen without having to wait because i can afford more than,one
platform
Ps3 fans are so afraid they cant think rationally. Well kida u still get to play the same games. Sure itll b an,inferior versipn and ull have to go from power is all that matters to some other excuse to justify owning an inferior product.

Love some of the late to the party comments considering neithet ms or sony consoles can or has done naitive 1080p.
Just another example of why I consider most ps3 owners to be children who dont comprehend anything when it comes to tech. They think theyve beeen getting 1080p all this time but its just 640p and their lack of knowledge

If graphics are so important how can,you be so ignorant on the subject. Mario galaxies outscored and outsold better looking games after all.

Guess u haters will either ignore facts or move on to aome other excuse but u wont have any impact on wii u juat like your ignorance and hate did nothing to stop wii from beating ps3 everway that matters. Sales being the biggest. Thats a fact. Personal prefernce is meaningless.
You might enjoy yourkia but that doesnt make it better than,a porsche

[d3nworth1]

You're being pretty bias don't you think. I've read all the comment and none of them were from ps3 fanboys. They all mention both ps3 and 360. So I dont see why you're attacking one fanbase when people both consoles.

[LX-General-Kaos]

I respect your post

[REALgamer]

Just because I can't resist, Rayman Origins and Virtua Tennis 4 both run at 1080p native on PS3.

They also run at 60fps. :)

[Ingram]

Oh my god...it's the pokemon army! where have you been this whole generation?

Oh, I know, while I was playing RDR online, Uncharted, Demon's Souls, Brutal Legend, Arkham Asylum,Valkyria Chronicles, etc you were learning to write, just barely.

"Any time a developer says something postive about wii u fanboys will want to prwtend they know more about"

The title is misleading, they said THEIR game runs at that resolution.

"Name any retail ps3 game that runs native 1080p"

Get it through your thick skull, there are several unscaled 1080p games on PS3.
Name any Wii game running at that resolution.What's that? I thought you were all saying Wii-U is next gen?; wait then and compare it to their respective competitors.

"Just another example of why I consider most ps3 owners to be children who dont comprehend anything when it comes to tech."

HAHA.And this is coming from a Nintendo supporter.Priceless.

"They think theyve beeen getting 1080p all this time but its just 640p and their lack of knowledge"

Are you drunk? or just talking about COD and Halo?

"If graphics are so important how can,you be so ignorant on the subject."

Exactly.On a side note, learn to punctuate.

"Guess u haters will either ignore facts or move on to aome other excuse but u wont have any impact on wii u juat like your ignorance and hate did nothing to stop wii from beating ps3 everway that matters. Sales being the biggest. Thats a fact. Personal prefernce is meaningless."

You're blind and wrong.

[Dark-vash]

@Vaistrat
omg, what happened? did they murdered you mother?
You sound like a very angry person!

While you played those games on the PS3 (I did too) i've played Xenoblade, Tales of Symphonia, The Last Story, Pandora's Tower, TloZ:TP, Skyward Sword, RE:Chronicles etc...

Were they in SD? Yes they were! But hell, they were good games! Ignoring the Wii is ignoring some of the best games this gen!

[BigStef71]

This is good to hear. I most definitely will be picking up a wiiU sometime after its launch. I got a question is metal gear solid 4 like one of the only retail games on ps3 to use native 1080p?

[Tsukuyomi]

Whats with the cocky remarks do it with no sweat? quit treating Wii U as god system. yes new hardware but we have yet to see anything the console is truly capable of. PCs do it with no sweat its the progenitor of the creation anyway.

[DA_SHREDDER]

pc's don't have as many quality titles like Sony and Nintendo first parties. Just saying. BTW, Minecraft says hi, and yes, graphics matter, but real gamers are fine with the graphics we have now, we just need better frame rates.

[Tsukuyomi]

i dont care really about graphics really all i want is nice gameplay and an intricate story but define a real gamer though even if you play horrendous games like COD your still a gamer so whats sets apart a real from an normal one? itreat everyone as a equal no more no less

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

This is a good thing. :) I'd love to see something like Super Mario Galaxy running at 1080p and 60fps. I know there are upscaled versions of GameCube and Wii titles on PC, but I want native support, where my favorite Nintendo franchises look as good as Uncharted or Ratchet & Clank.

If Retro continues the Donkey Kong Country series, I'll be very happy!

[AO1JMM]

I seriously doubt it take alot of horse power to run that game at 1080p.

Not saying the WiiU is incapable of 1080p with retail games just saying that game is not a visually taxing game.

[metroid32]

Well how about trine 2 directors cut is 1080p 60fps and the graphics are the best the developer has ever done on any game their words were the new levels in wiu version are their best work to date now if trine isnt a visually taxing game why is it not on wii/mobile/handhelds ?

[REALgamer]

It's up to the developers what platforms they wish to develop for; a game not being on a platform is not proof that it can't. That being said, obviously it would require some serious reworking to be possible on wii or mobile.

Regarding it being 1080p / 60fps on Wii U, Trine 2 uses very limited z-axis depth as it's a side scroller, vastly reducing the geometry on screen at any one time than a game with 3-dimensional navigation using the same assets. This means it also does not require multiple LOD assets for each object, as the camera maintains the exact same distance from them any time they are on screen, severely reducing the memory usage so perhaps an entire level would be able to fit in RAM, freeing up the CPU from handling resource management.

Trine 2 is not a great example, as it is a game that is absolutely beautiful but not especially taxing on performance.

[FernandoMartinez]

Sure it can run sidescrolling minigames in 1080p. So can the PS3/360. But the more hardware intensive games (anything 3D) will "only" run in 720p.

But 3D games run in 720p on PS3/360 and one cant say that the graphisc are that impressive anymore. So 720p is an high enough resolution, the question is how good the other aspects of graphics will be on the WiiU. From what we have seen/heared until now it will be a bit better than PS3/360 but not a whole lot.

[metroid32]

Your wrong aliens/batman/fifa13 all run 1080p along with every other 3rd party game fifa wiiu will have double the texture resolution on crowd and pitch ? And this is the baseline unlike ps3 ect that always has the previous build to build on the wiiu fifa had to be built ground up and is already looking more in line with pc build.

[FernandoMartinez]

It hasn't been officialy confirmed for any of the above titles that they will be in 1080p natively.

Since Nintendo officialy said their 1st party games will run 720p natively i am a bit sceptical about 3rd party developers making their games 1080p.

Would be nice thou.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[R_aVe_N]

1080p is actually pretty easy to do with a game that does not require a lot of set pieces and still be able to run at 60 fps. A game like Toki Tori 2 does not have tons of set pieces to deal with if you notice the background never moves its just a flat wallpaper, and the world are mostly solid pieces. This game could easly be made as a Torque 2D(if it isn't already and that doesn't make it less fun just an example). It is a really easy engine to work with and just about anybody can do it for really cheap. A game like say Assassin's Creed is a lot harder to make native 1080p due to the amount of set pieces and more complex texture pallets. When you add in other aspects of games like this it becomes a lot harder to manage even 720p with current hardware on consoles. It can be done at 1080p but it does not happen often.

http://www.garagegames.com/...

I am not saying the game is bad by any means I am just saying it fairly easy to do with any console right now.

[wiiulee]

exactly the wiiu can do 1080p at 60fps that has been confirmed by a few developers...actually that's what nintendo use to criticize about the ps3 and 360....so thats been fixed so that the wiiu can do it with no sweat....as for people saying most of the wiiu games are 720p , well most of those games are ports or launch games developers are rushing to get out the doors..if fifa13 and ac3 already looks better then 6th generation ps3 games...wait until a true wiiu game with all the bells and whistles turned on

[Qrphe]

Source of said developers saying this?

I would guess you're referring to either/both Arkham City and AC3 and if so please refrain from hearsay; I hope you find the lack of faith legitimate.

[madjedi]

1080p with little or nothing happening onscreen isn't impressive.

Take a game with tons of effects running onscreen like borderlands with enemies constantly spawning and dying in 4 player coop. Then i'll be impressed, the ps3/360 had a few true 1080p games and most weren't exactly, omg look at all that incredible onscreen action.

1080p is just a number, it doesn't necessarily mean, it will have better graphics than a 720p game. There are alot more important criteria for how a game turns out or how powerful a system is than resolution.

You know it's funny for a group that touted it's all about the gameplay and only graphics whores care about visuals ect.

You nintendo guys are really starting to sound like ps3/360 owners back in 2007, with all the resolution and graphics talk. But now that the wii u, is "a powerful system", i guess the whole gameplay over graphics argument, will be quietly swept under the rug by nintendo fanboys since it is no longer needed.

After all, only a graphics whore would want to see how amazing a next gen zelda or metroid would look, because hey the gameplay was good enough on the wii for the graphics not to bother you right.

That's the same crap some wii owners spouted to us anytime, a hd console owner said they wanted to see better graphics in games.

[duplissi]

lets just see how all the fanboys react once all the gen8 systems are out....

[bothebo]

Hit the nail on the head

[Qrphe]

wrong post

[Ck1x]

All I have to say is here are some screen shots of AC3 for the WiiU haters!
A game that is anything but simplistic in design and it to is running in 1080p on WiiU...
http://h13.abload.de/img/as...

http://h13.abload.de/img/as...

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[duplissi]

a yet to be released console vs one that is 6 years old! woo lets celebrate! it has better graphics! thats like being proud to be better at college level math than a 1st grader...

beyond that those pics are of real shitty quality... ac 1,2,brotherhood,and revelations all look better than that on my ps3.

lets now compare a original xbox game to a ps3 game now to see what type of difference we should have but wont. seriously the difference should be embarassing for nintendo.

[Ck1x]

Nobody is bragging about WiiU being better than 6yr old hardware. It's just many comments were basically saying that what the developer was saying is pointless, because their game is a 2d side-scroller that's not that graphically demanding and that both PS3 & 360 have had 1080p games already. So I just pointed to a clear fact that shows a more demanding game (AC3) is still running at 1080p on WiiU, that's all!

[nik666uk]

Who asked if it did 1080P and 60fps? Kind of goes without saying!

[Rock_On_PS4]

Nintendo is a generation behind Microsoft and Sony. PS4 and XBox 720 will improve upon 1080p. 1080p graphics will look dated next generation. 2160p resolution is possible on PC with two monitor screens. 1080p with 60 FPS should be the bear minimal for games next generation. RPG games at 60 FPS would look sweet!

[Ck1x]

Yeah I doubt that! If anything, 1080p will become the locked standard this next-gen. People expecting PS4&720 to output games at 2k & 4k resolutions are just silly really... The HD console generation killed so many very talented development houses because the cost is just to high to make quality games. So What do people think such a dramatic leap in graphics would do for this industry?

[DruePhoenix]

Considering 1080p is about to be the "old standard" in HD video, this is the opposite of exciting.

"Also, it can play 5.1 Dolby surround sound without getting winded!"

[vakarian75]

If you didn't know most games on the ps3 and 360 say they run at 1080p but actually only do 720.

[fight4love]

not even. 640 upscaled 2 720 is what i hear.

[fight4love]

This is some good news. If it is easy to develop for then third party and indie devs may feel more inclined to develop for it. nice to hear about the resolution as well.

[duplissi]

would be pretty damn sad if it couldnt

[jaymart2k]

Batman (Confirmed)
Assassin's Creed 3 (Confirmed)

- Wii U (1080p)
- Xbox 360 (720p)
- PS3 (720p)

[D0UbleF_]

Ohw yes,

Without breaking a sweat for 2D games that even any smartphone could run?
This is ridiculous, it's like being proud of your console running 1080p Angry Birds.

Nintendo, seriously don't try next-gen. Do what you're good at - Oldschool.
Nextgen is nothing for Nintendo.

[Kopite_2020]

Wipeout HD anyone??? Been out for years, catch up Nintendo.

[chukamachine]

360/PS3 Can push 1080p.

But most devs try and push what they can't and lose fps and then some rez.

Also some coding in these games is awful.

[wiiulee]

@qrphe...lol..arent you suppose to be knowledgeable and keep up with the latest updates and not just a sony and ms fanboy scared of the power and potential of the wiiu...those sources are thq, ubisoft and ea themselves saying wiiu can do that...and don't cover your eyes that the wiiu is alot more powerful then current consoles.

[wiiulee]

lol...sony and ms kids...silly fanboys..so now that its proven the wiiu does graphics better then ps3 and xbox ...now its no big deal and on to the next argument uh...how the next xbox and ps will be able to do resolution higher then 1080p..thats not going to happen....next generation will be like it was back in gamecube, xbox and ps2 days and dont be surprise if microft and sony are behind the wiiu in power, i could just picture a few sony and ms fanboys, so call hardcore gamers jumping off bridges and cliffs...oops no there would be more excuses..there will not be much of a difference this generation except potential great games with the wiiupad included....so wiiu ahead for good....fanboys will be crying...after all psvita is almost done for

[CoryHG]

Runs at 1080p....but expect a lot less on the screen.

[kingduqc]

My pc can run 7680*1600....

Can do it, at 2-3 fps? So yeah... Won't be impressed with that until the framerate is 60 fps on all games.

[Emilio_Estevez]

lol, now that's very true and funny.

[Braid]

Wii U can do 1080p... So can my three year old laptop.

Resolution is not the keyword in graphics, it's the level of detail and the technologies of the engine.

[Tzuno]

Well technically you could do 1080p on a shitty graphic engine i guess. The engine counts the most

[Emilio_Estevez]

It's all about context, which we don't really know here. I'll wait to see the final specs and what things actually look like before judging something with so many questions.

[JOLLY1]

I just want per pixel rendering!

[mintrieri]

1080p is a meaningless statistic. There are 1080p images that are difficult to render because they contain millions of polygons, several shader calls per object and complex lighting. The easiest 1080p scene might have one polygon that can be displayed at a super high frame rate. It's all about gameplay anyways and Nintendo will win or fail based on their games, not the hardware.

[Incipio]

1080p while rendering what? A white screen with Link dancing around?

[capcock]

It would take effort to make the wii u weaker than ps3 and 360 so of course it'll run games @ higher res, 1080p with medium detail is what I expect for wii u.

[NastyLeftHook0]

i cant wait for the wii u.

[FinalomegaS]

Lot of trolls on here, can we have some moding pls.

One dev can express their experience with a hardware. Jesus, the amount of feedback on here is mildly putting the term reading between the lines.

We're going to get some real doozies because not every dev will have the resources to output the same quality. I can see Nintendo taking the modest route, and the more brazen like square,Konami,capcom and so on will try and impress and obviously keep the multiplat experience near equal as they will want their version to sell equally alot on as many systems possible.

Anyone that thinks the next ps&box will leave the next wii in the dust are not aware of the price restrictions that will be associated to the system. You can get some nice mid-range hd card with lots of bells and whistles but they have this benchmark limit and for the price we will be something around the same minus a bell here and a whistle there.We'll still be getting outdate pc tech but it will will be custom pc tech. Which will be a beast.

My laptop has twin video cards and the fans died so fast... I'm sure with a home console from certain manufacturer that will not be an issue : )

[_-EDMIX-_]

Thats nice. LMFAO! Thats like saying i can play HL1 at 40fps when HL2 comes out on XB.

I mean its nice and all but....at the end of the day...who cares?

I mean there telling us this news like a soul gives a damn. So...while Wii U does 1080p on old, dated last gen looking games, PS4 and 720 AND PC are doing 1080p on games like Mass Effect 4, Watch Dogs, BF4 etc. LOL! Ask me if i care....

It won't get support from anyone so i'm not even sure why this is news.

[ThePsychoGamer]

Really I don't care weather or not it can run games at 1080, seems pointless when I know the system won't allow me to play the games I want anyways.

Break the locks