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Sony’s Need to Adopt Xbox LIVE Pricing Model Evident

"Sony's PlayStation Network has come a long way since its debut on the PlayStation 3 and has consistently received praise for remaining free unlike Xbox LIVE, Microsoft's competitor. While this is an excellent aspect of the PlayStation Network for PlayStation gamers, the negative results have had its showing throughout the past and just recently with an announcement from Sony Computer Entertainment Europe."

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Venomousfatman4273d ago

Sony definitely needs to improve on a lot of things involving their online service. Some things changed up can make the experience on PSN a whole lot better.

NastyLeftHook04273d ago (Edited 4273d ago )

like what? name something. im so sick of trolls talking smack about psn when there is nothing wrong with it. its incredible, IF i want ps+ i get free games and so much more ect...if i dont want to pay, thats fine.

Support? like charging you to use netflix? charging you to play online ? and support? i get supported with tons of free games and cloud services free themes ect, not to mention pc/ps3 cross-play? do you have that? and nice touch on that "SONY" remark, pretty mature.

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gaffyh4273d ago

I prefer PSN over XBL for two reasons:

1. I don't HAVE to pay to play online.
2. I don't have to listen to ignorant and racist comments from stupid kids.

Sony may need to improve stuff like match-making, but that's all they need to change, not the pricing model!

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AO1JMM4273d ago

@gaffyh,

Hilarious comments. BTW I hear little kids yelling racist ignorant comments on PSN all the time.

BattleAxe4273d ago (Edited 4273d ago )

Just another FAIL article from Nick. I think Nick would be better at scalping tickets in front of a stadium.

On topic, I own a 360 and a PS3. Since buying my 360 around 3 or 4 months ago, I haven't turned it on for the last two months. I don't find LIVE to be anything special. I don't need to leave voice messages, and while cross game chat is nice, I could really care less about it. The minute Sony starts charging for online play, is the point in time where I become a 100% PC gamer.

DigitalRaptor4273d ago (Edited 4273d ago )

@ Laxman

No. It's not because Microsoft charges $60 per year that XBL has better "support, reliability, features". That's nonsense that only a loyal, invested fanboy could muster.

It's because Microsoft has been in the online gaming space longer with more experience and they have a lot to lose if they let their service decline, so they stay competitive.

Believe me when I say, Sony have found their model for charging users, and that goes by the name of PS+. All Sony needs to do is continue adding value to it with certain requested major features and keep the online free and they're set. One of Sony's fundamendal edges is consumer choice, and looking at their strategy with PS+ it makes no sense to be charging for online play when something like Plus exists.

Increase the enticement of your service with pure value, and people will warm to it. That is their strategy. MS's strategy is keep charging for online, increase the price every now and again, and keep adding features that aren't related to gaming (that are free to everyone else). Keeps them in good shape financially, but doesn't do anything for my respect towards them.

It's not poor form from "$ony" that their services aren't as solid as Live either. It's fairly impressive that their services are as good as they are, compared to the start of this gen if anything.

Now I know it's hard for some of you Xbox fans to accept but Sony has a culture of offering consumers choice. You don't even have to be a fanboy to notice this. They have always offered the most diverse games and been about open platforms, free options. That will not change, and that makes my experience better than cross-game chat on the Xbox. For me, PS+ is better than XBL Gold any day of the week, since GAMES >>>>>>> FEATURES! And like I mentioned - features that are free everywhere else. Lol.

Army_of_Darkness4273d ago (Edited 4273d ago )

Like what?? it's free. It works. so who's complaining? cause clearly its not me.

morganfell4273d ago (Edited 4273d ago )

Another ridiculous observation from the same site.

Failed journalistic pustules.

Think about this. You buy a game. Eula arguments about ownership aside, you pay for all of the game. If the game has Single Player you pay for that. If the game has Single Player and Multiplayer you pay for that. If the game is Multiplayer only you pay for that. It's your game.

Now along comes a company that says, "Hold on there a minute. We don't care if you paid for that Multiplayer. You do not get to use that part unless you pay us money on the side."

It's a form of legalized extortion really. Never mind if that game appears on 5 other platforms without such intrusion and demand. This one company is intent upon forcing you to pay more money without concern you already pay to access the internet. They want a cut.

There is no choice. You don't pay, you don't play. Right off the bat a service that provides layered choices that serve the player is already light years ahead. It's confounding anyone would think otherwise. Maybe that's the issue. There wasn't any thinking involved when this piece was thrown together and came crawling out of the dust bin screaming for a webhit.

So look here Nicky. Before you get any more bright ideas you need to start thinking these absurd, erred postulations through with a bit more thoroughness.

And remember everyone, go up to the top and click on the blue gamerabcess.com and vote the site and story according to their quality.

gaffyh4272d ago

@1.1.4 - It's a LOT less though, no denying that is there?

SilentNegotiator4272d ago (Edited 4272d ago )

"Support, reliability, features"

Support? http://www.destructoid.com/...
It takes a media circus just to get real support from the XBL team.

Reliability? http://www.joystiq.com/2007...
Yeah, yeah, PSN was down for month. That doesn't change the fact that XBL had a long term issue itself. And occasional maintenance is not a lack of reliability.

Features? Crosschat and......what? Features that are free elsewhere? A cable box function that can be done better and get all the channels with....well, a cable box?

PSN provides what I need from a game console for free; gaming. And between PSN and PC, I don't see why I should be paying for online play. PSN even manages to have a pay service that adds things without forcing me to pay to play online.

Captain Tuttle4272d ago (Edited 4272d ago )

Laxman got reported for trolling? Silly, sensitive fanboys

Edit: Morganfell, there is a choice. Don't buy a 360. Since your whole argument revolves around multi-plats that solves the problem.

Daze3114272d ago

The thing I gripe about Xbox is that if I have to pay the full price. Which lets get one thing right here how many of use have? We are all smarter then that and pay 45 to 50 bucks and not the 60. I pay for something and I dont want to see ads. I love my ps3 since day one I got my Xbox and try it out for a year but for some stuff the have a Internet problems here and their was not worth it to me. I can't even message my friends because I don't have gold. I did like the music service they had but I am not paying 50 bucks a year for it, rather spend the money on a roku box. (which I did)

Most games that don't run their own servers, you have to find the right room with a goo enough speed. (and no I am not running no p.o.s 3 mbs when I was getting up to 20 and stuff boot me out for time outs wtf. I like the apps Xbox uses but I will wait till they hit the psn before I pay again.

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GribbleGrunger4273d ago (Edited 4273d ago )

Give me a break. I enjoy PSN and I'm happy that it's nothing like LIVE.

STOP these articles NOW! You may have gotten away with it for a few years when LIVE was better (by a fraction) but I'm sorry but PSN is far better than LIVE. It's over as far as I'm concerned. Once upon a time your argument was valid but now it is vacuous

Outside_ofthe_Box4273d ago (Edited 4273d ago )

Well said.

Xbox players say that they are happy to pay for Live for all the features it provides therefore people should stop saying it should be free, well then the same goes for PSN.

Stop saying that Sony should charge for PSN. What ever features Live has that PSN doesn't, PSN users are fine without it. I really don't see any feature that warrants me paying an extra fee just to get access to the other half of my game that I paid full retail price for.

Sony does not need to charge for PSN. PSN users are fine with PSN as it already is. The PS+ model works just fine.

mayberry4273d ago

I'd assume a significant portion of "N4G" posters here are dedicated to our "hobby" of "adult electronic entertainment" i.e "gaming" to have both consoles and services. I have both and get alot of enjoyment from the two in different degrees. especially since I started gaming on a Magnovox Odyssey in 1978! Back then if I bought a game that needed a patch.. tough luck! Online was unheard of! Seems to me gamers today are kindof spoiled and unappreciative of what we have to game with!

That said, PSN being free and the majority of games have an online component really makes MS's service sub-par to PSN's imho! I paid $600.00+ for my box, pay my monthly cable broadband fee, and paid for my $60.00 game, paying to play, to me, is redundant to say the least!

turgore4273d ago

For multiplatforms the online experience is the same on PSN. SO why should I pay for this service ?

avengers19784273d ago

No Xbox needs to adopt sony's price model...OF FREE...
I pay for PS Plus, but hell they give you games, I have totally come out ahead of the yearly fee for plus, with the amount of free stuff I get.
I Think Sony needs to improve on things like there network going down, sometimes everything on my Playstation works except for the store... its frustrating.
I'm pretty sure xbox would have a higher % of there players online if they could at the very least play games online for free...
Other than making people pay for it xbox live and PSN are the same, they both offer tons of content other than gaming, they both have problems, and the both could be better, but then again Playing games on pc online also has it's issues... we can all agree on one thing nintendo needs to do some serious catching up when it comes to online gaming.

DeadlyFire4273d ago

I really see nothing wrong with PSN and any real update is only going to come when they can overhaul entirely for new hardware.

Besides that if Sony keeps the Free to game model its more than likely people will come back to them when they are tired of paying for XBL.

Nintendo sees free to game as a positive measure as well.

NeoTribe4272d ago

What the hell does it need? U log on and u play games online.... seriously its free and offers pretty much everything xbox has. Wtf more do u need to play a game online? Seriously, anwser this question.

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tmanmushroom4273d ago

I wouldn't mind if it was the same price as ps+ and that it included all the ps+ benefits.

iamnsuperman4273d ago (Edited 4273d ago )

This fails on one major point. A major selling point is free online with the option of a subscription service (which is very good). The shutting down servers is partly to do with money but just because he plays these game doesn't mean everyone does anymore. I wonder how many people do. Even with a subscription model I would expect these servers to be still shutting down because it probably still wouldn't be cost effective to have them.

WeskerChildReborned4273d ago

Yea they need to allow free online just with a subscription that has added benefits so you have options.

MrBeatdown4272d ago

Exactly. Servers shutting down really has nothing to do with subscriptions. If I was paying $50 a year for PSN, MotorStorm isn't going to magically gain players. If anything, it would lose players. Force people to choose between paying and not playing, and you're undoubtedly going to reduce the number of players who actually can play.

As much as I loved Pacific Rift, I'm done with it. So are most people. I'd like to see the servers for such a fantastic game stay open, but I'd rather not pay a yearly fee just so I have the option to go back to it only to find nobody else playing.

MalianteNCX4273d ago

there is any lag on PSN(like GoW 1/2 on Xbox 360). I don't want to pay $60 just to talk with my "friends" cross-game.

MasterCornholio4273d ago

Meh cross game chat is a pretty basic feature. If I have it for free on Vita and Steam and the quality is equally as good as cross game chat on Xboxlive, why should I even pay for it?

XperiaRay

Gazondaily4272d ago

If it's such a basic feature then you'd expect the PS3 to have it.

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Revisiting PS3 classic Motorstorm - The driving celebration that should never have ended

Digital Foundry : Evolution Studios' Motorstorm is one of the first, finest and most fondly remembered of launch titles for PlayStation 3. It's a release designed to answer the question posed by each new console generation: what makes a game 'next-gen'? With its robust physics engine and massive tracks, Motorstorm serves up a bold affirmative answer to this question, delivering an experience that could never have existed on prior console hardware. At the same time, the path to release was fraught with challenges that almost serve as a microcosm of the PlayStation 3 release situation itself. It was a success, however, with a trilogy of PS3 releases, plus PSP, Vita and even PS2 off-shoots.

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RaidenBlack696d ago

After Driveclub and Onrush, the dev team will now contribute to and assist with the development of the upcoming NFS.

darthv72696d ago

I would give anything to have a full compilation of the series remastered to play on PS5 with full DS support. Feeling the deformation of the tracks as you race in pacific rift or the snow laden tracks in arctic edge... that would be sweet.

MastaMold696d ago (Edited 696d ago )

Yes MotorStorm World Tour for PS5 damn it Sony make it. The Desert, Pacific Islands, The Arctic and City races.

Army_of_Darkness696d ago

Motorstorm Pacific rift was awesome! I think MotorStorm: Apocalypse was what killed the franchise due to its change of direction...

darthv72696d ago

Pacific rift is the best (IMO) but apocalypse wasnt what killed it. At least it was still somewhat of a MS game. The RC one is really a departure from the norm. None of which were bad as they were all fun in their own ways.

Army_of_Darkness696d ago

Lol! I completely forgot about the RC version.

Knushwood Butt696d ago (Edited 696d ago )

RC was a blast to play on Vita.

Apocalypse had unfortunate timing due to the 3/11 earthquake in Japan. I never got around to playing that one.

Evolution had some harsh experiences. I had Driveclub from launch and the server issues weren't that bad and certainly didn't prevent you from enjoying the game.

ABizzel1696d ago

Agree Apocalypse didn't kill it, it's just racing games in general just became less popular nearing the end of the PS360 generation as it was flooded with medicore racers and the extremely niche but enjoyable ones like Motorstorm, Blur, Spilt Second, and Forza Horizon (still going strong, but actual sales have been decent fro a racer, and often expanded by console bundles and now GamePass)

But since the PS4/XBO generation had a lack of arcade racers, it's a prime time for games like this to come back.

I've said for the longest, the additional income of PS+ Premium should be used for, Remastering, Remaking, or recreating sequels / spinoffs of classic PS franchises to launch into the service. Many PS3 games fit this mold of looking good enough that a quick remaster to 4K@60 with better texture maps would give them near PS4 quality.

Remasters: A game like Motorstorm look good enough where it can simply be remastered in 4K @ 60fps, and have better textures for mud, mountains/rock structures, and vehicles and it would hold up WELL.

Remakes: Games like Legend of Dragoon, Warhawk (could be a simple remaster also), and so many others could get remakes like FF7.

Recreates: Shorter sequels/prequels/spin-offs to other classic PS IPs like how Infamous First Light / Blood Festival (BF was a highly underrated vampire game) and Uncharted Lost Legacy. Give spin-offs to things like Heavenly Sword, The Order 1886 (1786 or 1986), Puppeteer, Tokyo Jungle, and more.

ABizzel1696d ago (Edited 696d ago )

This is also why Sone NEEDS to get PS3 emulation up and running. It gets rid of all the PS3 server farms and replaces it with software that can work on EVERY future PS console with updated coding.

At bare minimum emulation could double the resolution and framerates of all PS3 games making many of them 1440p@60fps without any real work, and a few 4k@60fps.

As for full-on remakes again updating to 4K@60fps with completely revamped textures, and an option for 1440p@60fps with global illumination can make these games shine with a new lease on life.

Also I'm still waiting on my DriveClub 1440p@60fps update 😭

ChiefofLoliPolice695d ago

Apocalypse was actually pretty good i don't think that's what killed the series. PR was the best though.

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Kurt Russell696d ago

I was late to PS3 and Pacific Rift was the first game I picked up on it... huge miss to not have one on PS4, hope it gets some love on PS5 (as well as Ridge Racer and Wipeout).

akurtz696d ago

Only driving game i enjoyed.

darkrider696d ago

Really cool franchise. It's shame it ended

RosweeSon696d ago

Never really got into it myself I remember getting it with ps3 and being a bit underwhelmed I preferred the RC version they did for vita 🙌🏻🤣

EvertonFC696d ago

Going from ps2 to ps3 was not underwhelming when I first played motorstorm, it was like nothing we'd ever seen before ?

RosweeSon696d ago (Edited 696d ago )

Each to their own didn’t like it myself. 🤷🏻‍♂️✌🏻 ;I didn’t say going from ps2/3 was underwhelming just the launch game motorstorm, bit different but hey ho.

PS3 was a slow burner for me it’s my least favourite Sony console, maybe as I had my 360 as my main at that point but yeah wasn’t impressed with first couple of years to be honest but that’s just me. Once uncharted MGS4 GT5 Last of us GTA4/5 dropped sure but launch games weren’t all that imo. Resistance was alright wasn’t as big a change as ps4 or even now ps5 for me. PS3 took out rumble and basically went HD it’s wasn’t exactly a revolutionary start. 🤷🏻‍♂️✌🏻 ;

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God of War 3, Sly 3, P5 Persona, Dante's Inferno & more running via the latest version of RPCS3

DSOGaming writes: "RPCS3 is the best emulator for Sony’s previous-gen console, the Playstation 3, and we’ve decided to share some videos, showing Dante’s Inferno, God of War 3, Sly 3, P5 Persona, Motorstorm Pacific Rift, Hajime no Ippo: The Fighting, Super Hero Generations and more running on its latest version."

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SkatterBrain1751d ago

sony should get this emulator on the ps5 to have full BC

mijayire1751d ago

Funny how people were saying impossible yet some random developer is managing to do it. Give it few more years and you will see greater improvements and compatibility.

AspiringProGenji1751d ago (Edited 1751d ago )

Yeah

imagine Sony taking more than 10 years developing a PS3 emulator that is still not perfect...

Gwiz1751d ago

It's crazy how accurate I was with the time frame of having actual good running PS3 emulation (2020)

Enturax1751d ago

Once Sony ultimately proves it doesn't care about its actual fans but other worthless stuff, like censorship, I'm going to start saving for a good gaming PC.

PitbullMonster1751d ago (Edited 1751d ago )

Lol, look at the specs of the PC they used for the Emulator, Intet I9 9900K and a MSI RTX2080TI.
Good luck saving at least 2000€ for a PS3 Emulator.

Enturax1750d ago

Yes, because PC parts never get cheaper and the emulator isn't being constantly optimized to work better.

Also, I'd rather pay extra for personal freedom and a much better performance than to support some communist bastards.

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Heavy Rain, MotorStorm: Pacific Rift and Spiderman 3 running on the PC via the PS3 emulator, RPCS3

DSOGaming writes: "YouTube’s ‘reznoire’ and ‘Emulators for PC’ have shared some new videos from the latest version of the Playstation 3 emulator, RPCS3, showing Heavy Rain, MotorStorm: Pacific Rift and Spiderman 3 running in it."

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Father__Merrin2010d ago

These games are very old now its easier to just locate a ps3

ProjectVulcan2010d ago

Not the point. I for one want Metal Gear Solid 4 in minimum native 1080p and 60FPS. On PS3 it ran 1024 x 768 and about 25FPS.

So the only way that ever looks like happening is via emulation. Good work is being done on RPCS3.

marioJP872010d ago

Ain't happening. You'll get 1080P but the frame rate won't run at 60 fps. Emulators don't work that way as PC games does. Not a single emulator has been able to override a 30 fps game to run at 60 fps ... actual 60 frames.

ProjectVulcan2010d ago (Edited 2010d ago )

"Ain't happening. You'll get 1080P but the frame rate won't run at 60 fps. Emulators don't work that way"

WRONGGGGG!!!!

@ MarioJP87 Lol sorry but go back to your console, you know nothing about PC emulation. I have run countless console titles that originally ran at 30FPS on PC emulators with a full fat 60FPS refresh. Countless! I suggest you google for Zelda BOTW emulation, where it's easy to have 50FPS+ for a game usually running 30 or below on Switch. https://www.youtube.com/wat... Just the other day I ran 25FPS PS2 game Metal Gear Solid 3 at 1080/60FPS on PCSX2 https://www.youtube.com/wat... ......two examples.

It is true some games are designed with critical parts of the engine locked to frame rate, but most actually aren't. Probably 98 percent aren't. This is because many console games don't remain locked to 30FPS, so unless you hit the 30FPS you have problems elsewhere.

Whats more some of the ones that do have stuff like animation and physics locked to a 30FPS pacing occasionally have work around options baked into an advanced emulator.

MGS3 is one of those with specific configuration for 60FPS, AND it even has analogue button controller support to boot! Not even the Xbox 360 remaster has that!

letsa_go2010d ago

Thank you for schooling him, ProjectVulcan! I was like...wtf is this guy talking about? haha Someone has never used an emulator before I guess.

Spartacus102010d ago

By that logic you might as well not play any console exclusive from this gen since one day it will possibly be playable in native 4k, 144hz.

Yeah its a fact that the higher the res and frame rate the better, but waiting for all these years while the graphics themselves start to become outdated seems like one step forward, two steps back.

starchild2010d ago

@marioJP87

One of the benefits of emulation is the ability to run at higher resolutions and smoother framerates. I can assure you I've run many console games at 60fps which normally run far below that. ProjectVulcan is correct about everything he said.

@Father__Merrin

I don't want to have yet another console cluttering up the area around my TV. I don't really have the space for it to be honest. Backwards compatibility should be a normal feature for any gaming device. But emulation brings lots of additional benefits anyway.

marioJP872009d ago (Edited 2009d ago )

Show me a YouTube video with all of your claims and I will retract my comment. I've been emulating for years on PC, PS3 in its linux days and android. I know what I'm talking about. You claim 98% of emulated games? Show me proof. What can you provide besides MGS?
What other emulators do you claim are capable of this?

ProjectVulcan2008d ago (Edited 2008d ago )

Erm, most emulators are capable of it. DEMUL, PCSX2, Dolphin, Project64, ePSXe etc etc.....

I showed you two games that emulate at higher frame rates than on their native platforms. One is enough to prove the point. Pick either. Find videos of the other ten thousand yourself, it is not difficult.

It's a fact and you really don't know anything about emulation if you think that you cannot emulate console games to run faster! That's patently not true to anyone that has genuinely emulated console games on PC before.

marioJP872007d ago

Bull crap. I've been running dolphin for years on my laptop. I'm currently running it on my GTX 965m. I damn sure cant run resident evil 4 at 60 fps and I mean real 60 fps, not 60 frames with a locked 30 fps. I cant run "The Warriors" or "Manhunt" on PCSX2 at 60 fps.
Now if you can show me just a 30 second video of you running RE4 at 60 fps using dolphin, then I will admit to you being right and me being wrong.

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Cmv382010d ago

Shhhhh. Let the master race who claim to have a better game platform try and find ways to illegally play better games.

MoshA2010d ago

Huh? Most people have played these games before and want to replay them on higher settings. Those who haven't won't enjoy them as much without nostalgia anyway.

ProjectVulcan2010d ago

Emulation is not illegal. This shouldn't have to be pointed out here, it should be common knowledge even to knuckle dragging mouth breathers.

annoyedgamer2010d ago

The ignorance is oozing from this comment.

letsa_go2010d ago

They get all the PC games, PLUS the ability to play console games. Sounds like master race to me!

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william_cade2010d ago

Poor Heavy Rain lol that game was and is a pile. Emulation sounds cool though - Res. Evil 3 and Directors Cut all the way.

Skankinruby2010d ago

Ugh, motorstorm collection on psn please!

LoveSpuds2010d ago

Know that would be a great collection of games for sure. My only gripe with these games was how difficult they got by the time you were two thirds of the way through the campaign.

Harkins17212010d ago

Making great game play even better!

pyroxxx2010d ago

So games run at 10 fps and graphical glitches not seen since pcsx2 in 2003,.. I will get there someday.

PirosThe4th2010d ago

Many games already run at full speed

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