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Tekken Producer Says People Are Focussing Too Much On Wii U Specs

Tekken series director Katsuhiro Harada is under the impression that people are too busy discussing the raw technical power of Wii U, rather than the system’s unique capabilities.

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Abash4286d ago

Well, Wii U is suppose to be a next gen console, how are specs not going to be a main focus?

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Morrigan-Aensland4286d ago

This matey is right, there is too much focus on Wii us specs. Hopefully they release the next tekken for the Sega genesis

Shok4286d ago

Specs were never the main focus during the pre-PS2 days.........I wonder why..........

Funny how NOW all the sudden it's all about teh specz.

Xperia_ion4286d ago

It's both sides talking about graphics. You call the Wii U weak you get yelled at, you call the Wii U next gen and powerful its all good. I'm playing the wait and see game. You even said it, it's not the most powerful who wins, is the Wii U destined to fail ? I doubt it. You cant put this old dog down.

ShinFuYux4286d ago

Who said it wasn't? I remember how people always debated PS2 vs Xbox in forums. Sure, Xbox had better specs but before it came out, the PS2 was the king in the market, it killed the Dreamcast and then pooped on it for shits and giggles.

Machioto4286d ago (Edited 4286d ago )

@shok That's because not alot of people had as much access to the internet as they do now,there are tech demos of the ps2 on you tube,I why people are focusing so much on the specs are,reports saying it's at par with current gen,Nintendo either making inconsistent remarks or letting gaming journalist twist their word,they should've just said "we'er better than current gen".

gaffyh4286d ago

Specs were always the focus, I remember back in the Sega Master System/SNES days talking about how many "bits" a console had, and then how crazy it was that PS1 was 32-bit.

Qrphe4286d ago (Edited 4286d ago )

Graphics had ALWAYS been a focus to talk about regarding consoles ever since the Atari 2600 days if not earlier.

Shok4286d ago

I love how I said "during the pre-PS2 days", and then everyone starts talking about the blast-processing and bits from the Genesis days lol xD.

Point is, specs didn't matter for the Sony fans during the PS2 and even PS1 days for that matter. But then, when Sony finally makes the strongest console, now specs are everything.

You guys knew what I was saying lol.

jetlian4286d ago (Edited 4286d ago )

shok whats pre mean fool?! pre ps2 is anytime before ps2 lol and it doesnt matter when as far as gaming goes. Specs have always been a focus in gaming.

even now sony isnt the strongest.

Shok4286d ago

@jetlian

By pre I meant during the period of time before the PS2's launch, or more generally, right before the 6th gen launched.

I understand how you would think I was saying anytime before that though, I did kinda word that the wrong way lol. But yea I meant at the start of the 6th gen.

StraightedgeSES4286d ago

@shok is right specs didn't matter back in the pre ps2 era. The console wars back then people fought about which company had the best games not the specs.

Outside_ofthe_Box4286d ago (Edited 4286d ago )

The Wii-PS3 difference that's why. I know the games coming out now for the Wii U aren't indicative of it's true power, but what is shown shows that Wii U is barely over this gen just as people believe the Wii is barely over last gen. So people see this and are expecting the Wii U-PS4 difference to be the same as Wii-PS3.

You're right about the specs not mattering though. It's all about teh gamez, but what games does the Wii U have currently that will make a Sony fan want the Wii U? I have no doubt that the Wii U will have great software in the future. I guess people are eager for specs so that they can buy the system based off the great games that can be possibly be produced with high specs lol? Or maybe they just want endurance that the Wii U will indeed be on par or at very close to the other consoles next gen? I really don't know, but I'm certain people will buy the Wii U as long as it has good games whether or not if it is significantly weaker than the other consoles or not.

joeorc4285d ago (Edited 4285d ago )

"It's both sides talking about graphics. You call the Wii U weak you get yelled at, you call the Wii U next gen and powerful its all good. I'm playing the wait and see game. You even said it, it's not the most powerful who wins, is the Wii U destined to fail ? I doubt it. You cant put this old dog down."

exactly 100%

it seem's many are missing the freaking point, just look at the recent Nintendo 3DS launch.

Nintendo launched the 3DS and asked $250.00 for their system, that Had only 6 MB of VRram! now pretty much every other handheld device has more VRram than that, even the PSVita has 128MB of dedicated VRram. Not saying the Nintendo 3DS does not have great games or anything like that, but the point many are making is some gamer's like myself will wait to see what my Money is really buying.

both Sony , Microsoft and pretty much every company that has PC's, Hand helds like smartphones and Tablets give the system full spec's when they post info about their devices. and the info is quite a bit more info about their product, than with what Nintendo gives about the product's they release.

Its not about boasting about the Hardware it's about giving more info about your product.

just because some PR guy spouts off about the hardware "every company does that anyway", does not mean it negates the fact they are being upfront with the consumer with what you are buying with your money.

that's why i many times wait on buying a Nintendo product, not that Nintendo does not make some good hardware, or the fact they make some fantastic games, i would like to know what kinda money im going to spend on their hardware and depending on that i may wait because I think i would be paying too much for it off the bat and i would wait for a price drop before i buy it.

Now that's just me, but i do that with any thing i buy.

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user54670074286d ago (Edited 4286d ago )

Why are people dismissing specs of a next gen console all of a sudden because it's Nintendo. I'm not saying hate on it and join in on the doom and gloom but come on. Things like

"It dosen't matter"

or

"Specs shouldn't be the main focus"

Are you guys kidding me come on, don't think that your being Mr Negative by pretending to say it's not about specs, like your afraid to show anything negative about it because it is about specs. It's a next gen console the best thing about when a new console is revealed is what it can do and how far games and the tec can be pushed.

If people saw something as amazing as Uncharted 2 when the PS3 was revealed do you think people who just dismiss specs. Your jaw would be on the floor, you be interested in them because you would be thinking at the time

"No way is that real time....no way, Sony is lying, show us the specs Sony"

The problem is that too much time in focusing on the controler like it's some Wii add on.

Disagree but you know I'm right, when a console is announced the best thing is knowing how much this console will change gaming when it comes out...

LOL_WUT4286d ago

Well said +bub

Thats the problem with the Nintendo faithfuls on here they try to act like specs don't matter to them. Yet they go around posting fake specs or you see them in one of those rumored specs articles.

Knushwood Butt4286d ago

So true. The die hard Nintendo followers contradict themselves just to suit the case in hand.

Wii - graphics don't matter, because gameplay > graphics (convenient, as the Wii is an extremely under-powered piece of kit). All you need is fun.

Wii U - the next gen is here! Wii U is definitely more powerful than the 360/PS3 !! Oh, but fun is important too..

3DS? Vita already has it beaten hands down in the specs department, so fall back to the gameplay > graphics argument.

Puddlejumper754286d ago (Edited 4286d ago )

LOL_Wat, Since you seem to be able to read dribble why not translate that mess for the rest of us.I didnt see one single coherent sentence in his entire post.

Seriously the dude asks why people dont care about specs and you think that deserves a bubble? Must just be because he is hating Nitnendo because nothing he said made any real sense or added to the discussion in any way,.

Most of the people worried about Specs are 10-14 year old first gen gamers who are clueless to how generations actually work. Judging by his incoherent rambling I'd sayhe fits in that age group.

Funny how Sony fanboys like you guys went form Power is all that matters to " Its all about the game play.
Funny the highest rated exclusive this gen was on the Wii not the PS3. That is proof enough that power doesnt matter. If anything Nintendo fans are just tired of your fanboy rants bout power and bring it up in hopes of shutting you up for once but in true fanboy fashion rather than accept facts and move on with life you suddenly change the argument just to have something to cry about.

Salamander4286d ago

"Disagree but you know I'm right, when a console is announced the best thing is knowing how much this console will change gaming when it comes out..."

You must mean change "Graphics" not "Gaming", i think you too casually dismiss the potential of the gamepads influence to change "Gaming" or to evolve it.

I agree graphics are very improtant, but i would be lying if i said that i understood spec talk. But remember games arent remembered coz of their awesome graphics. YES, Power is improtant... but Gameplay is immortal.

@LOL_WUT
Thats the problem with YOU on here, you act as if specs matter to you(face it you have as much clue as i do, no doubt after reading this you will go and research it). Yet you go around posting trolling comments on all Nintendo articles. Pull your head in.

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shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4286d ago

console gamers are not supposed to worry about specs.. That is why consoles are made.

FinalomegaS4286d ago

They are pc fanboys deep down *chuckles*

Knushwood Butt4286d ago

Yeah, and if people are not focusing on specs, what exactly are they supposed to be focusing on? I still don't see the point of this hardware.

Puddlejumper754286d ago

My god the answer to that is so simple its almost pathetic that you had to ask. The GAMES kid THE GAMES.

Sony never released full specs for the PS3 yet it didnt stop you frombuying it. What did you focus on with it the color sxcheme? no the games

Salamander4286d ago (Edited 4286d ago )

Umm how boutz focusing on...... wait for it.... drumroll please.... GAMES! YAY!... puddle beat me too it.

Knushwood Butt4286d ago

Well, I agree with you both, but if that's the case, I don't think Nintendo are doing a good job of promoting them.

Remind me what the launch lineup is again please.

_-EDMIX-_4285d ago

The Wii U, is next gen by timing of its release and by name only.

The Wii U is as next gen as the Wii was current gen. BY NAME ONLY!

The Wii didn't get Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed, GTAIV, Max Payne, BF3 etc.

Why? It NEXT GEN! Because its tech WASN'T!

Its nice for people to want things, but history will show you, theses specs really mean NOTHING in terms of 3rd party development. There will be no main ips on the Wii U that are going to be on the PS4 and 720.

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wishingW3L4286d ago

of-course because who wants to pay $300 for what will essentially be an Xbox 360 with a tablet with buttons?

PopRocks3594286d ago

The 360 can run Unreal Engine 4? Can run Nintendo games in HD? Has Assassin's Creed and Batman Arkham City running at 1080p?

Also, I fail to see how it can only be a 360 when it can run gameplay on both the TV and two screens (albeit at a lower framerate on the controller screens) at the same time.

This must be the era when Power7 based processors suddenly became the cheap models.

DarkHeroZX4286d ago (Edited 4286d ago )

Neither one of those games where promised to be in HD lol. And unreal 4 can be ran on most devices even the itouch, that was already confirmed.

And not everyone likes Nintendo, Sony, and MS exclusives many average gamers are on that third party grind.

WeskerChildReborned4286d ago

Exactly, the system is pretty powerful if you look at what it's able to do.

Lovable4286d ago

Yeah and keep playing an outdated console while they're charging you high price for it....

Treian4286d ago

yes. But better graphics means longer games, more advanced ai, bigger worlds, more dynamic events...etc.

GuyBanks4286d ago

Better graphics has nothing to with any of those things...

Treian4286d ago (Edited 4286d ago )

yes it does. better hardware=better graphics and the points mentioned above

_-EDMIX-_4285d ago

Did you ever stop to think...who will be making these amazing games?

3rd party publishers. I question, if they didn't port to Wii....why port to Wii U?

From PS4 and 720 of course.

ThePsychoGamer4286d ago (Edited 4286d ago )

I agree, gamers should be focusing on real issues like letting Nintendo know that the do not want the pointless restriction like region locking. Not asking for information that really doesn't mater. Power doesn't dictate the number of enjoyable game on a system, so I don't see what's mater if the WiiU is only as powerful as the 360, or twice as powerful as the PS3.

Break the locks.

Godmars2904286d ago

And all I'm thinking is this coming from a rep for a company that took years to get out Tekken 6(?) promising a new level of graphics, only to produce something on the same level of Tekken 3.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1019d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref8d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde8d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19728d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville8d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21838d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos8d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai9d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref8d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan8d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0077d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19729d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19729d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref8d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde8d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19728d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19728d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier8d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto8d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21838d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto8d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman8d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts8d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts7d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic8d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel15d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8814d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing14d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS14d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder14d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218314d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.