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We don't pay for exclusives says Nintendo

Nintendo president Satoru Iwata has swept aside any notion of Nintendo splashing the cash for big platform exclusives.

Iwata said that they will not be paying for exclusives. Instead they will be looking for games that make innovative use of the Wii U's unique capabilities.

matgrowcott4284d ago

I keep reading about Nintendo high-ups saying they don't do certain things. "We don't pay for exclusives." "We don't force developers to add achievements." Not so long ago they were saying that they don't see why they'd focus on online services.

It's nice that they have their own identity, but there's a lot of things that PS3/360 owners take for granted and without those things they might not buy into a Wii U. You have to be flexible and Nintendo don't seem to want to adapt to how gaming is changing.

Morrigan-Aensland4284d ago (Edited 4284d ago )

I think zombie u might be ported to Xbox and ps3 since Ubisoft likes making money and Nintendo didn't pay for it. I think it should be ported to the vita also. I won't buy the game but I know a lot of gamers say they like the game so I'm quite sure a few would get it for other systems.

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Question_Mark4283d ago

Rye or the Kaiser, or the wheat or the white
Maybe I can suggest an appetizer!
Stay away from the tuna, it smells funny tonight
But you just can't go wrong with the ryyye.. or the kaiser...

Sono4214283d ago (Edited 4283d ago )

Am I the only one that doesn't understand why this comment was posted in this article? Or why it was a reply to Matgrowcott's comment? Or why it got so many agree's when it was far off topic? Doesn't make any sense.. but hey that's N4G for ya.

Jadedz4284d ago (Edited 4284d ago )

They'll never do what Microsoft does, but they'll gladly pay for advertising and what not, for a game's exclusive right to be on their gaming platforms.

Nintendo can't afford a bidding war between Sony and Microsoft. Maybe they can, but it would be at the expense of them paying out the ***, and they'd rather use their funds for game development purposes.

matgrowcott4284d ago

I can understand the reasons behind it, I'm not saying they should out and out emulate Sony and Microsoft. It just occurs to me that Nintendo have thus far spent more time telling people what they don't plan to do over what they plan to do. And when you read behind the lines, to me it sounds like "we don't follow trends, we make them."

And you really have to get the basics down before you can break the rules. I sort of think that was the problem with the Wii, they started with the controller instead of starting with a gaming machine.

PopRocks3594283d ago

"You have to be flexible and Nintendo don't seem to want to adapt to how gaming is changing."

They are. The Wii had next to no online service, had little third party support and no achievements. The Wii U is the exact opposite from that.

hellvaguy4283d ago

Ok the ps2 and xbox 1 had online and 3rd party support 5 years before the wii even released.

So basically over 10 years later the Wii U is still playing catch up. Depressing.

Hisiru4283d ago

@hellvaguy
So you forgot the Gamecube?

SkullBlade1694283d ago (Edited 4283d ago )

@hisiru

What, you mean the two Gamecube games that supported online play and required an add-on to the console?

For the record, Dreamcast supported online play. Even the Mega Drive/Genesis had a very limited support for it. The little support that the Gamecube provided is hardly worth bringing up in a debate.

Nintendo is even behind Sega, a company that stopped working on consoles in 2003 in the online aspect. This isn't something to be proud of. :P

Hisiru4283d ago (Edited 4283d ago )

@SkullBlade169
I think it's ignorance to say Nintendo is behind sega, but I could say the same thing about motion control on the Wii (which was copied by Sony and Microsoft later), the same thing can be said about D-pad, rumble, analog, triggers and some other things Nintendo brought to the industry. Now Nintendo did it again and Microsoft is trying to improve the xbox companion app calling it "Smart Glass" and trying to copy Nintendo. The same goes to Sony improving the PSP's capabilities trying to give the same WiiU experience.

Like it or not, Nintendo is also always bringing something new to the industry, so your "Nintendo is behind Y" argument has some flaws. Youre probably just a hater.

Also we don't even have the full details about the WiiU. We should wait for the september conference then we will be able to talk about that.

BitbyDeath4283d ago

I could say the same thing about motion control on the Wii (which was copied by Sony and Microsoft later)

PS2 was the first to do motion control with the Eye-Toy

CaptainN4283d ago

So you guys think Nintendo was behind in online,try reading this article and get back to me !

http://n4g.com/news/939525/...

portal_24283d ago

Ahh the Dreamcast...happy memories.

Puddlejumper754283d ago

Wii had online and it worked fine in every game I played online

Some games even had achievements they just didnt force everyone to do it.

@bitbydeasth
PS2 was not the first console to offer motion control gaming. That honor goes to the Atari 2600.

Sono4214283d ago

The fact that you got disagrees just shows how idiotic the people are on here, there's seriously only a handful of level minded people on this site, the rest are biased ignorant morons.

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Thatguy-3104283d ago

Nintendo like Sony don't need to pay for exlusives. They simply have enough studios to make them on their own.

CouldHaveYelledUiiW4283d ago (Edited 4283d ago )

The problem is that people tend to "radify" Nintendo's comments beyond what they meant.

"NINTENDO Doesn't LIKE HD! They Hate HD! THEY will Never Use it!"

"NINTENDO Hate the INTERWEBZ! They wills Never EVERz have online services. "

Nintendo has always said that somethings need to wait. They thought HD needed a bigger install base before they could make it a selling point- so they made Wii.

They thought the same about online. (Even though GameCube had a modem and Famicom in Japan (in the 80's) had online banking and other advanced at the time features. But they did not make much money off of it, so they stopped.

Nintendo is trying not to force the industry or themselves into investing or pushing technology that the majority does not use or have.

HD TV's now have a bigger install base.
High Speed Internet is was more affordable/common than it was 6 years ago.

Is this a little because of Sony and Microsoft?
Yes.
But you can't argue that both companies won't/didn't make profits in other ways off of those technologies being adopted/pushed.

>Sony MAKES HD TV's. (+games and consoles)
>Microsoft sells Computers (software) and Internet Solution and Browsers. (+games and consoles)

Both of these companies benefit from the money they invest in pushing HD and Internet connection.

Nintendo JUST makes Games and Consoles.

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DivineAssault 4283d ago (Edited 4283d ago )

& Dragon Quest? or was that Squares idea? lol Someone plz answer me this (not lying to yourself), "without children & casuals, do u think nintendo would still be in the hardware business?"

Baka-akaB4283d ago (Edited 4283d ago )

Of course it was square's idea , and a no brainer .

Dragon quest games always get released on the machines with the biggest fanbase and most potential . With the wii being on top and easy compatibility on WII U , or the big success of the 3ds , its easy to see why they went there on their own .

Now i dont think Nintendo should brag about not fighting for those exclusives , and having them just happen when the publisher wants to... definitively not a positive message to me .

Especially when the money you are not using could produce new ips ALONG your usual sequels . I love them but Nintendo's ip creation is definitively in the backsit here , and they are the number one driving force behind their home consoles' offering .

HalfNerdHalfAmazing4283d ago

If nintendo wants the core gamers back they have to pay for exclusives

ChunkyLover534283d ago

Why would they have to pay for exclusives? Nintendo has always had some of the best exclusives ever made. The Wii U Gamepad will mean that third party companies will make exclusives by default. Games like ZombiU, which require the Gamepad, its something the other consoles don't have standard, which means Nintendo gets an exclusive that it didn't have to pay for.

Almost everything on the Wii was exclusive, for one reason or another.

cuddlemonkey4283d ago

True but... was/is that a good thing?

jetlian4283d ago (Edited 4283d ago )

Because most hardcore players are above nintendo ips. After 2 years wii had nect to no 3rd party exclusives.

to be honest I got GC/WII for the naruto 4 player games. I had fun with a few other games but thats it. Wii u as far as I can see has nothing.

Nintendo should make some hardcore ips atleast

Puddlejumper754283d ago

You talk about hardcore gaming then bring up Naruto? LMAO.Best joke ever

jetlian4283d ago

yea the fun 4 player fighting game. I read the manga every week. Doesnt mean thats all I play. I like fighting games as well as ninjas so it fits. And naruto is more hardcore than pikman,DK,Mario, zelda or the rest of nintendos line up.

when was the last time anybody really dies in nintendo games? Naruto people get impaled, blown up, hacked you name it.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1016d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref5d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde5d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19725d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville5d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21834d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos4d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai6d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref5d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan5d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0074d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19725d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref5d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde5d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19725d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier5d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto5d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21834d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto4d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman5d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts5d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts4d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic4d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel12d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8811d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing11d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS11d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder10d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218310d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.