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WiiU- Confirmed specs from SDK and GPU info

If you read past the confirmed dev kit specs (developer confirmed from Nintendo's SDK) in the article and read about the features of Wii U's GPU you can understand how superior it is over the current HD twins. It basically comes down to the Wii U having a GPU using DirectX 11 features that are not possible on current systems.

Optimized post-processing effects – apply advanced lighting techniques to enhance the mood in a scene
High quality shadow filtering – no more hard edges on a shadow, see shadows the way you would in real life
Depth of field – use the power of the GPU to have more realistic transitions of focal points – imagine looking through a gun sight or a camera lens
High Definition Ambient occlusion – incredibly realistic lighting and shadow combinations

This confirms that the Wii U is a next-gen machine not in comparison to the Wii but in comparison to the current HD systems. All next-gen systems will have graphics cards that have the same/similar features from...

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LostDjinn4304d ago (Edited 4304d ago )

Well this looks legit.
It's not like it's a blog site or anything.

*shakes head*

Edit: I'm sorry but DX11? Really? Really?!
Funny how with all the "legit" info there's no mention of OpenCL.

Don't worry. I know what to do.
*grabs guitar and starts to sing*
"Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya"

guitarded774304d ago (Edited 4304d ago )

It bugs the hell out of me when they use the word "Confirmed" in the title when it's a rumor. Just put "Wii U - Rumored Specs" because it's not F'n confirmed... but that would take some integrity from the author to risk a lack of hits for the sake of telling the truth.

Anyway, until Nintendo gives us the specs or someone gets their hands on one and guts it on youtube it's still a rumor. Although there does appear to be some weight to the rumor.

irepbtown4303d ago (Edited 4303d ago )

If you write 'rumoured specs' then who would click the article at all?
We've seen countless number of them. The title is simply to draw hits.

Anyway, whatever the specs are the Wii U is definitely something I'll consider. Some of the things I've seen (especially E3) has got me glued.

It may not be 100% next gen, but it will definitely be something we've never experienced before. It may just have the honour of lying beside my PS3 :D

Computersaysno4303d ago (Edited 4303d ago )

It doesn't tell us a whole much about the machine's GPU performance anyway and its a rumour and list i have seen before here.

32mb of EDRAM and 1.5Gb of memory is reasonable enough but without knowing what sort of memory speeds/bus width/shader count/clockspeeds we can't give accurate performance. Only rumours and indeed guesses.

My guess is a part based off a low end Radeon, along the lines of the 55/5670. Anything much faster and we would have been made aware of it by now, we would have seen it in Batman leaps and bounds rather than slight improvements.

Its just this thing that says if it were really significantly superior to Ps3 and 360 Nintendo would have made us aware of it. They would have made it very obvious in trailers and such.

It was obvious within minutes of Microsoft demoing a host of 360 games in 2005 how much of a leap it was over Xbox.

In the absence of such evidence the only conclusion i have right now is that it is marginally more powerful than existing consoles.

nukeitall4303d ago

The easy solution is to keep down rating these sites that pull shit like that. As soon as those ratings starts affecting the sites, they will stop abusing titles!

Hit the plus sign next to the site url above and down rate that mofo site!!!

victorGma214303d ago (Edited 4303d ago )

@nukeitall
the original source is neogaf (which is a trusted source), but I agree with you on this one. I hate misleading titles lol. Why can't they just put "rumour" in the title? Is it so difficult?

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LocutusEstBorg4304d ago

Just like DX11 on a GeForce GT420 rocks.

geddesmond4303d ago (Edited 4303d ago )

DX 11 is next gen lol. Its 3 years old. DX12 would be next gen. I mean we all knew the Wii U would be more powerful than the consols that are 6 and 7 years old but depth of field, realer shadows and better lighting is only a small step ahead.

Now if it could run games perfectly at 60fps and in 1080p while processing so much information on screen like 100 different enemies all doing different things at once then I'd definitely call it next gen

@CK1X

Well not so next gen when developers like ND have been using those effects since UC2. One of the main reasons UC2 looked so good was because of its depth of field, Lighting, Animation and particle effects and with The last of Us they just showed the machines capable of much more. These effects are clever ways of hiding the stuff that doesn't look great.

And thats why I said if the games could run all this stuff perfectly it would be next gen because so far its just rumours. We don't know how these games run with all this stuff yet. Rage ran at 60 FPS with a lot of these effects but that didn't run perfectly.

Ck1x4303d ago

Actually those are major steps in graphics over the current HD consoles. That's all any of the next-gen engines(UE4, CryEngine3, Frostbite 2) are touting, better lighting, shadows and particle effects for explosions without taking major hits on the hardware.

specialguest4303d ago

There will never be a "next-gen" console according to what you consider next gen, because console developers will not sacrifice graphics quality over everything else.

metroid324303d ago

guess what EDRAM is used for extreme gameplay look it up and wiiu has 32mb/768MB of the stuff get a grip and 2 gig of RAM alright half a gig is used on the OS but i'm sure this equates to better AI and more enemies on screen at once.

PoSTedUP4303d ago

@ck- i was blown away this gen by games like MS:pr, killzone2-3 etc. on a big HD tv with a good amp and big speakers cranking. Imagine it all with better lighting and depth of field etc. and better more realistic graphics!? i sold my ps3, tv and speakers (miss them dearly) but am going to start saving now for a PS4 and a 42-50in decent sony bravia. cant wait!!!

geddesmond4303d ago

@Metroid

Wow pulling edram specs out of your arse because neither Nintendo or IBM have made any comments on those specs yet, plus since nintendos trying to get their costs down I ain't even sure on the specs they announced so far either cause some of them could easily change.

@Specialguest

Ah no way, really? So what your saying is technology available now is not powerful enough to run 1080p games at 60fps while processing 100s of different things at once??Are you saying its impossible? of course devs won't sacrifice smooth running games for graphics but if they have the right hardware they wouldn't have to.

LOL_WUT4303d ago (Edited 4303d ago )

@ geddesmond That metroid32 guy has been posting these specs on some articles already facepalm. Little does he know that it's not even confirmed yet it's just a rumor.

victorGma214303d ago

@PoSTedUP
I am having a hard time trying to understand why you sold your PS3. I would just buy another one if I was you.

specialguest4303d ago

@geddesmond

Current Gen consoles have the tech to do all of that NOW, but its not going to happen with this console Gen or even next because consoles hardware will always be limited.

Sure, hardware tech will one day allow little effort to achieve what you stated as "next gen", but it won't happen this upcoming next gen. the ps4/xbox720 will not be massively more powerful than the WiiU.

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OpenGL4303d ago

Based on the specs in the article this GPU isn't DirectX 11 compliant anyway as the max texture size is listed as 8192x8192 but the reality is that DirectX 11 GPUs support 16384x16384 textures in DirectX 11 and OpenGL.

AO1JMM4303d ago

"It was obvious within minutes of Microsoft demoing a host of 360 games in 2005 how much of a leap it was over Xbox."

It is obvious that the WiiU is a huge leap over the Wii.

Blackdeath_6634297d ago

anything will be a huge leap over the wii. chances are that when ps4/xbox720 are released the wiiU will be dwarfed and left behind.

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Ulf4304d ago (Edited 4304d ago )

It's important to note that many DX11 GPUs are not as powerful (meaning texture, poly, fill performance) as the 360 or PS3 GPUs. These are the low-priced models -- exactly the sort that a company looking to lower the cost of their console into a range where families would find it affordable, *might* want in its console. A Radeon 6570 or 7570 would be only slightly more powerful than the Xenos or RSX, and would be a very affordable option for the Wii U, for example.

Also, the Wii U, due to its unique controller (actually 2), will also need to accommodate rendering images to at least one, if not two (for coop) controllers -- thus eating away at GPU power. I have no doubt that the Wii U GPU is better than the X360 or PS3 GPU overall, but we shouldn't expect to *see* much of a difference, in the end, due to this factor alone.

If we're lucky, everything will be true 720p, and a solid 30 fps, whereas the other platforms have often been "barely" there due to ambitious game design. The Wii U may provide just enough extra muscle, after the render-to-pad expenses, to give us the smoothest & cleanest overall experience with crossplat X360 and PS3 titles.

wishingW3L4304d ago (Edited 4304d ago )

what you're talking about that an HD 6570 is slightly more powerful than the RSX and Xenos? Are you crazy? Dude, right now even integrated cards are much more powerful than current gen GPU's on consoles.

A freaking HD 6570 has around 480 stream processors for god's sake! While the PS3 only has like 24 (and not even using unified architecture) and the Xbox 48. An HD 6570 is much more powerful than an Xbox and PS3 fused together!! XD

chukamachine4303d ago

I'm lol right now.

Having DX11 in a gpu does not mean alot if it cannot pull off DX11 with ease and i can tell you right now. It cannot.

With any dx11 features involved, it'll be pushing 30fps max.

6570 has a 5200mpixel fillrate.

7800gtx has a 8800 mpixel fillrate

Although 6570 has better texture throughput, which is quite understandable. but only 8rops. a 7800gtx does 16rops.

My point is, people just look at graphic cards and go, yeah it's newer and so so much better.

Ulf4301d ago

@ wishingW3L:

"A freaking HD 6570 has around 480 stream processors for god's sake!"

LoL. Do you believe that AMD GPUs are "more powa" because they have a truckload more "cores" than nVidia GPUs, even relative to modern designs.

You realize the GTX 570 has 480 cuda cores, right? Do you honestly believe that an nVidia core and a AMD "stream processor" are an even match? Do you have ANY idea what thread warping is?

A HD 6570 only has about 25% more texturing muscle than the RSX, despite having -- LOL -- "more cores". You honestly believe that AMD marketing drivel... what a joke.

Also, with regards to "Dude, right now even integrated cards are much more powerful than current gen GPU's on consoles"... what utter BS. An Intel HD4000 is AT BEST, half as powerful as the Xenos and RSX. Where on earth did you get the idea that they were more powerful? Please tell me you didn't read this somewhere on a respectable tech site, and not some random backwoods forum?

_-EDMIX-_4304d ago

LOL. I have no clue what your talking about. I think you need to google what those GPU's are.

ANY GPU released pasted 2006 is going to be GREATLY superior to that of the PS3 and 360. Have you seen the APU's AMD has released? They are heads above anything on console. Mind you there like $70.

Though the Wii U is greatly more powerful then the current gen systems, it really means very little now. Its like the XB1, being really powerful means nothing if you don't even have support to make content on it that are not just PC ports.

Wii U will do great, but i think the GPU, CPU etc won't get used in the way people may think. Nintendo as a publisher will be the one to really take full use of such a powerful system.

3rd parties will just use it for watered down ports.
COD4 for Wii anyone?

SonyPS3604303d ago (Edited 4303d ago )

This is an example of someone who reads too much jargon on N4G and starts to believe they know what they're talking about when they repeat it.

The first paragraph is probably the biggest insult to anyone who's ever built their own PC. Do you really believe that most GPU's that support DX11 aren't more powerfull than the GPU's in current gen consoles, or did you just copy and paste that from someone else who's really not informed on hardware?

Are you forgetting (or did you know to begin with) that current gen consoles are using GPU's that were created 7 years ago, before even DX10 was out?

tee_bag2424303d ago (Edited 4303d ago )

Tell me about out. Guy hasn't got a clue.

My old 4850 would push out better graphics performance than the consoles on multi-platform games. ie L4D2, RE5.

Yet Ulf wants to compare the RSX and Xenon to a 6xxx and 7xxx serious no friggin way.
Take your pick, a 6xxx or 7xxx, either absolutely spanks whats in the consoles right now.

Ulf4301d ago (Edited 4301d ago )

@tee_bag242:

"My old 4850 would push out better graphics performance than the consoles on multi-platform games. ie L4D2, RE5."

Do you have any idea how much more powerful a 4850 is, than a 7570? Just the texture performance is at least 3x. Just because a chip is modern, doesn't make it amazingly powerful. GPUs haven't gotten faster in the past 5 years, for the most part -- mostly they've just gotten *cheaper*, except at the very high end where they use the extra die area to load down the chip with more pipes. Do you realize how close the nVidia 8800 GTX is, to modern high-end GPUs? It's 5 years old, and will probably tromp what Nintendo will put in the Wii U easily.

Trust me when I say that Nintendo will NOT put a $600 GPU in the Wii U, or even a $250 one. More than likely, its a $100 chip on par with a 7670 (a 7570 would be too cheap, even for Nintendo)-- a chip with not even 2x the texturing ability of the Xenos or RSX, and less than half the muscle of your "old" 4850.

You know that the Radeon 6850 is not really better than your 4850, right, despite its being a couple years newer?

tordavis4303d ago

ROFLMAO I'm glad the other posters replied. This dude Ulf is smoking dem cracks!

HungPHATx4303d ago

Must be a VenomousFatman "1" fan commenting here :-)

Please take the stand Mr Venomous LMFAO....

donman14302d ago

You got to be joking... Wii U will have games running at full 1080p in the near future. The reason why the launch games are 720p is because they are ports of games also releasing on Xbox360/PS3. The games are already deep in development and not using any of the enhance capabilities of the Wii U GPU. Developers also have to learn how to enhance their games with the new Wii U hardware that is clearly more powerful than current gen.

This confirmed spec sheet of one of the earlier dev box shows this.
http://www.nintengen.com/20...

The next generation of gaming will be similar to the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube era where Xbox and gamecube (to a lesser degree) were more powerful than the PS2 but not by much. Wii U will be the PS2 in this coming next gen in terms of first out the gate, with great install base and full 3rd party support.

tordavis4302d ago

Yeah I agree with Donman1. It's not like the PC ports of these Xbox360/PS3 games run higher than 720p.

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Irishguy954304d ago (Edited 4304d ago )

Isn't it supposed to have a power 7 Gpu? Which makes it >>> 360/ps3. Meh, the fact that it can run Ac3 has decent AA on the WiiU version makes it better already.

Shok4304d ago

Power 7 is the CPU the Wii U is using, not the GPU.

But yes the Power 7 series is far stronger than the CPU's used in the 360/PS3, so on the CPU side as well the Wii U is stronger.

Irishguy954304d ago

oic, I misread it. Anyhow, I'd be shocked if the GPu isn't better. Considering how cheap a better one(even if only a little) would be nowadays

Shok4304d ago

Seems legit. And some of those dudes on GAF I've actually been following and they leaked Wii U related things before they were even announced/leaked (like clickable sticks, instead of circle pads.)

I'd say it's pretty much real. There's nothing really unrealistic about any of that, pretty much the specs I was expecting.

mike1up4304d ago (Edited 4304d ago )

I have read the rumor, but I am a big time tech dummy. Is there anyway that you could sort of translate this for me?

In laymen's terms, roughly, how much more powerful are they saying than PS3/360?

OhMyGandhi4304d ago (Edited 4304d ago )

@mr_mike
I got chills when I read your post.
it's almost like someone handing you a gun,
and you asking how to shoot it and who to shoot it with. You don't even care what the specs really are, just hellbent on saying that it may/may not be more powerful than ps3/360.

mike1up4304d ago (Edited 4304d ago )

@RustedMan

Sorry that I gave you "chills", you could try not adding an agenda/conspiracy to my comments. That might help.

Look, I am no tech guy. The most that I could understand is that the GPU is powerful, and that shading is suppose to be a lot better. Shok doesn't have to respond if he doesn't want to, however, I don't believe that there is anything wrong with asking for some sort of reference.

If you have the time, make sure to take your show on the road. Try condemning people posting rumors that the WiiU is less powerful than current gen systems. They might actually be impressed by your "handgun analogies".

Shok4304d ago

Those specs are, based off my understanding, about 5 times more powerful than the PS3/360. But those specs are also from the old dev kits from last E3, so we could be seeing a 6-7x leap.

SonyPS3604303d ago (Edited 4303d ago )

Just think of this, mr_mike.

The console is 7 years newer than current gen consoles. They'd be really stupid not to create a console more technically capable than current gen consoles.

It's like the Wii being less capable than the gamecube or original xbox.

ZoyosJD4303d ago

I can tell that saying #-# times more powerful isn't going to help, so I am going to begin by saying that what you see on the TV will depend on whats on the controllers screen(s).

On the TV at minimum expect 720p and 30FPS, but this would come with better image quality than what you see on PS3/360 and something also something being rendered in-game on one or two controllers.

Lets say your using the Pro controller with no screen in a multiplat game. Expect 1080p, above 30fps, and better image quality. Assuming its not a lazy port.

Hold yourself steady, take aim, and pull the trigger.

*hits target*

*high five*

Incipio4303d ago

@ Sony360

Funny thing is...the Wii is technically barely ahead of the original Xbox.

http://www.gamespot.com/for...

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Question_Mark4304d ago

I agree. Rumors and speculation usually seem to be vague and non-descript, but this is quite detailed. Out of all the rumors, I would say that this one would be the most plausible.

Ck1x4303d ago

It does seem legit as Nintendo is one to provide a dedicated DSP in their consoles. But the real question is, if these are reliable leaked specs from a Dev kit, then which version did they come from? Seeing as how the system has improved spec wise with each new Dev-kit, it's probably fair to say that WiiU is more advanced than what is potrayed here in these specs.

metroid324303d ago

Even thought these specs read out to be at least 6 times the power of 360 already and more powerful graphics wise than rumoured 720 chip ????

DivineAssault 4304d ago

same thing i been reading since E3 with minor differences.. This really isnt any new information

Laxman4304d ago

I think the purpose of his post is that he now considers it to be more than rumor, which is what you would have been hearing since E3. Still, Id say its still a rumor unless Ninty want to confirm it. These 'anonymous close sources' dont make anything 'official.'

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1012d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref1d 16h ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde1d 15h ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19721d 14h ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville1d 13h ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21831d 5h ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos1d 4h ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai2d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref1d 16h ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan1d 16h ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00720h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19722d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19722d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref1d 16h ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde1d 15h ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19721d 14h ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19721d 14h ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier1d 11h ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto1d 13h ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21831d 5h ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto1d 2h ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman1d 17h ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts1d 13h ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts15h ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic23h ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel8d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger887d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing7d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS7d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder7d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff21836d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.

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