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Crytek estimates Wii U is 'minimum as powerful as Xbox 360'

That's according to Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli, who revealed in a CVG interview that a "respected developer" is working on a CryEngine 3 title for the Nintendo platform.

"My opinion of the Wii U is very high," he said. "It's just that we didn't have a business case unfortunately that justifies us making a game for it."

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Chuk54320d ago

At minimum, it's as powerful as a 7 year-old system.
Big victory there.

PopRocks3594320d ago

Bigger than you think, apparently.

Hoje03084320d ago

@PopRocks
How do you figure? If they've only managed to match outgoing technology, they haven't really done much, have they?

Hisiru4320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

@Chuk5
At minimum, x720 and PS4 will be as powerful as a 7 year-old system. AT MINIMUM.

And he is saying it because he is complaining about the people who thinks the WiiU is weaker than x360:
“From my perspective I do not understand the public’s concerns that the Wii U is weaker than PS3 and 360. That I cannot see. From my perspective the Wii U is minimum as powerful as Xbox 360.”

He is just using it to say: NO, WiiU isn't weaker than the x360, so stop making dumb articles about it at sites like N4G.

mewhy324320d ago

Well if it's as powerful as Xbox 360 then it's doing extremely well. Developers love the Xbox 360's power and flexibility. I would have liked to have seen more from Nintendo, being that's it's next gen time again, but they're all about profit....ie wii. Nuff said.

PygmelionHunter4320d ago

I've seen 360 games that look worse than PS2 games, so there's that, this only means that the worst thing you could produce for the Wii U will look like a 360 game...

Wenis4320d ago

Its interesting how people are getting so worked up about the Wii U's tech specs, as if Nintendo hasn't had comparably low specs to other systems before. The Wii obviously was just slightly better than PS2/Xbox in terms of graphics/processing, the Nintendo DS was behind the PSP in said categories as well, and even the 3DS can only really match the PSP still, and is behind the Vita in graphics/processing as well.

Nintendo's philosophy for nearly the past decade has been that 'next gen' is not solely reserved to graphics and processing, but in their minds, innovative ways of playing. A surprise, I know.

sikbeta4320d ago

@PopRocks359

Lets see how big it's when XBX3 and PS4 comes out :D

O-T

U-console is more powerful than current gen consoles, it's impossible to think it'll be on par with PS360 but it'll not hold much against the new systems from MS and Sony

dredgewalker4319d ago

I have to agree with Wenis, but the problem with Nintendo's tactic is that it makes it hard for 3rd party devs to bring or port games to their system. If the next xbox or playstation is 7 times more powerful than the current generation then chance of multiplat games coming to the WiiU might become slim in my opinion.

BattleAxe4319d ago

At maximum its as powerful as the 6 year old PS3.

metroid324319d ago

Powerful means MHZ/GHZ not actual graphics or feature set of the more modern CPU/GPU every1 is jusmping on this power talk and it means nothing look does the 360 have 2gig of RAM/32MB RAM/DX11 comparable graphics/SM5.0/1.2 terraflops CPU/900mhz GPU the 6770 ubisofts words it might get a lower mhz version like 750mhz but it will have the power of a 900mhz gpu/Watson tech/

All this power talk is total stupid and means nothing when comparing the 360 graphics to wiiu look at the tech demo's and there early tech demos on weaker dev kits then we have today and look at all the ports at E3,Some might not of shown the graphics off as the controller was more important but Gearbox makes it clear the wiiu is a powerful powerful console and its a true next gen console END OF the WiiU version will be the best looking version ???

There saying the GHZ is simular which means nothing when comparing actual performance the wiiu does 1080p native and 60fps end of get over it the power can be comparable to 360/ps3 but in terms of feature sets the wiiu is leagues above and you will see this very soon.

fatstarr4317d ago

"In the same interview the Crytek boss claimed his studio's technology is already "way beyond" next-gen console specifications."

that means next get is already 2 years behind at minimum

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fermcr4320d ago

It's not a good sign that Nintendo hasn't released the WiiU specifications by now.

What kind of CPU and GPU it has ?
How much RAM and what kind ?
Does it come with a Hard Drive ?
Physical Media ?
... ETC.

As for WiiU is 'minimum as powerful as Xbox 360', it better be more powerful then a 7 year old system.

live2play4320d ago

whats not a good sign is people seem to think nintendo actually does that sort of thing
ESPECIALLY this far off from release

nintendo releases more details on a conference of their own around september

they did it for wii 3ds and now wiiu

nintendo said WE WILL NOT BE RELEASING PRICE NOR LAUNCH DATE AT E3

and people where STILL expected that info in e3

THAT is not as good sign on the status of the human race

Thecraft19894320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

The Specs Nintendo never release.

Hard drive as the basic Specs show there is no HDD unless that changes in the next few months.

They've already confirmed that it has proprietary discs that hold 25GB.

For the love of god. Blue folower, IBM have already confirmed that the WII U will have a Power7 CPU that out does both the current machines CPU's and is very modern.

tee_bag2424319d ago

@Thecraft1989

+1 rep for the info.

Anyone know the GPU manufactuare?
Saying its a 1-4 GB GPU doesn't tell much about the performance these days.
The devil is in the details.

000014320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

wouldn't it be quite apparent Nintendo didn't go out and buy 7 year old hardware for the Wii U? how much hardware has came out between 2005 and 2012? A pretty decent amount in all departments. So why does everyone feel like they are limited to buying 7 year old hardware, imo i would expect them to go anywhere as far back as buying 3 year old hardware and all the way up to the end of 2011, adding in hardware. im just not understanding the reasoning behind people thinking after 7 years the best hardware Nintendo could buy is only going to be as good as the stuff Microsoft or Sony used 7 years ago.

SilentNegotiator4320d ago

An intel atom is weak as can be and comparable to some really old processors, so why can't whatever tech they use be comparable to "7 year old technology"?

DragonKnight4320d ago

It isn't about what Nintendo has access to, but what they will actually put in the system. Nintendo is known for making the most marginal upgrades possible to their consoles. It's why they either lose very little money, or none at all, on each console sold and start making profits a lot sooner than MS or Sony. It's very likely they'd use the cheapest tech they can get that has some slight performance increases, and thus it wouldn't be surprising that they'd use 7 year old tech. The Wii is essentially a Gamecube 1.5 in terms of tech itself. The 3DS is even less of an upgrade than that.

nukeitall4320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

Nintendo has a history of innovating with unique experiences instead of wow you with high specs and flashy graphics.

God knows I didn't play Wii Sports because of the graphics. I owned a Nintendo DS lite, but never owned a PSP. I owned all of them because of the unique experiences Nintendo provides.

I also own a PS3 and an Xbox 360, and probably will get a Wii U. However, I don't really think Wii U will be a huge success. My Xbox 360 with SmartGlass and Kinect will likely be able to do more.

Also, minimum means lower ceiling not upper. Most modern PCs are at a minimum as powerful as an Xbox 360 or PS3! Doesn't say much, does it!

360ICE4320d ago

Please note: he said, "as Xbox 360" ;)

nukeitall4320d ago

Exactly, because the other consoles aren't as powerful so you compare it to the most powerful one! XD

Chidori4319d ago

It's obvious that 95% of the people in the comments here didn't read the article.

"Chuk5
At minimum, it's as powerful as a 7 year-old system.
Big victory there."

^ This guy gets all the agrees

"PygmelionHunter
I've seen 360 games that look worse than PS2 games, so there's that, this only means that the worst thing you could produce for the Wii U will look like a 360 game..."

^ This guy gets all the disagrees.

Why is it like that? Because the users of this website never get passed the title of the article. Sad, sad day.

MrMister4319d ago (Edited 4319d ago )

@ CouldHaveYelled:

Man you fanboys twist anything to make it sound appealing. I dont see how a comparison to a 360 is a good thing. Why didn't crytek compare to ps3? So generally a Wii u could possibly be less powerful than a ps3. (by that logic). Whatever it is, its still sounds like Wii u's capabilities are underwhelming.

yabhero4319d ago

NextBox and PS4 are minimum as powerful as 360... See what I did there?
All it means that at lowest level games will look like 360/PS3 titles...
Also if you read the article he says WiiU runs CryEgine smoothly... Because of what was revealed at E3 we know WiiU will render all games at 720p 60 FPSunless it's using two controllers in which case it will be. 720p 30FPS...can PS3/360 do that? The answer is no... The upscale from like 540p at 30FPS....

DeadlyFire4319d ago (Edited 4319d ago )

This article also confirms CryEngine 4 E3 2013 inbound. :0

How many of you spotted that?

So at minimum its as powerful as a graphics card 7-8 years ago. That's nice to know, but I already knew that. Nintendo needs to stop trolling its own fans and supporters. They are doing this on purpose. Its some type of tactic to make you speculate. Seems like its working.

donman14319d ago

@ CouldHaveYelledUiiW

Got to love the hypocrisy of this gaming site... Negative rumors of the Wii U high lighted with negative comments. Positive rumors or actual factual information are over looked and dismissed as fails.

The fact is you just cannot keep a good company down. Wii U will be Nintendo's next great success (hardware sales) with better 3rd party support (much better software sales which means more support from those waiting and see).

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joab7774320d ago

Yeah. I don't get it. If they can survive on their own titles, then they will b fine. Many hardcore gamers and gamers with kids will grab it. For me, when the wiiu goes on sale, how much info do I have on next Gen consoles? If I know their specs and price, I will wait. But, if I do want a shiny new toy that may release some games that are a bit prettier than this Gen I will....buy a PC. Good luck Nintendo!

GamingTruth4320d ago

i wont buy a pc til i see something in my eyes that looks better than last of us and beyond 2 souls and gow ascension, and key word "TO ME"

StanSmith4320d ago

@gamingtruth

You can't make statements like that, then try to get out of disagrees by saying "TO ME".

As fantastic as they all look, there are better looking games on PC.

Hoje03084320d ago

@Truth
I only own a PS3 and those games don't compare to PC games. Saying they look better to you just means you have poor judgment.

Boody-Bandit4320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

Why is it guys with names like this -> Gaming Truth end up being anything but?

PC games look significantly better than the PS3 games you mentioned above. That's not an opinion. It's a fact.

360ICE4320d ago

Haha, guess you've got a point there...

BrutallyHONEST 0_0

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NYC_Gamer4320d ago

The big problem is will Nintendo fans support third party software?

Chuk54320d ago

If past is prologue, the answer is no.

Tachyon_Nova4319d ago

If studios release the right game with the right marketing then it should still sell. Problem is, anything without Mario or Zelda in the title traditionally flops on Nintendo hardware in the west.

corrus4320d ago

I think no that's why Nintendo not deserves third party

Yodagamer4320d ago

I always have, i bought a bunch of wii third party games, if they are good, but I think the problem is that wii owners got burned by crappy launch third party support and they are concerned to get burned again. Even to this day i'll be skeptical of third party software on wii.

linkratos4320d ago

The problem is when is the last time 3rd parties gave their all on a NIntendo platform? No one wants Resident Evil: On Rails. The Gamecube sold terribly to begin with so there was no userbase, and it's not like it received most multiplats. The N64 there was basically no 3rd party supports. So you have to go all the way back to the Super Nintendo.

Ricdog4320d ago

I don't like the wii much but those RE games sold well, why do you think they made more? As well as the COD games on the Wii sold great for the console, despite being weaker than their hd console counterparts.

3rd party developers just suck at making games for Nintendo, not the other way around. If they want there games to sell, make em good. They don't and then they start b!tch!ing about how their games can't sell on Nintendo hardware.

And the Gamecube was wanna the best Nintendo consoles ever, it had great support. Besides the awesome 1st party games, we had all those Star wars games and RE games. Plus the likes of Battalion Wars and Killer 7. The gamecubedidnt' get all the multiplats but thats ok because it great exclusive supports that made up for it.

chaostrophies4320d ago

n64 had some serious 3rd party support, actually.

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mike1up4320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

-"From my perspective I do not understand the public's concerns that the Wii U is weaker than PS3 and 360," he said. "That I cannot see. From my perspective the Wii U is minimum as powerful as Xbox 360."

Context ftw. Besides, it's only an estimation.

If it runs CryEngine 3 "beautifully", as stated, then the WiiU is fine.

joab7774320d ago

How fine will it be in November 2013 if next Gen consoles release? It has tizzies same head start the 360 had on ps3...the difference being that the 360 was basically as powerful as its competition. Why didn't Nintendo take the chance to jump ahead and do to Microsoft and Sony what was done to Microsoft last Gen. People are jonesing for next Gen consoles. It would a been a coup. Everyone would a jumped ship...at least for the time being.

I just think its impossible for Nintendo to create a hardcore persona. I think they fear losing their core base.

mike1up4320d ago (Edited 4320d ago )

That is a fair question to ask, but we both know that it is also impossible to answer at this time. We have not seen detailed specs for any of the 3 consoles.

Other than his estimation, this same developer also said that the WiiU runs CryEngine 3 "beautifully". Perhaps it is a matter of perspective, but this interview came off as a WiiU win imo.

Lastly...

-"I just think its impossible for Nintendo to create a hardcore persona. I think they fear losing their core base".

It really sounds like you contradicted yourself there, but I guess it depends on how you choose to define "core base".

Imo Nintendo's "core base" are the Mario, Zelda, Smash Bros., and Pokemon fans. I fail to see how a "hardcore persona" would scare us off... we have only been begging for it since the Wii launched.

corrus4320d ago

Because Nintendo not want to give their money that's why they make cheap consoles and that's why they don't pay someone else to make them explosives titles

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1015d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref4d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde4d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19724d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville4d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21834d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos3d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai5d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref4d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan4d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0073d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19725d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19724d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref4d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde4d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19724d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19724d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier4d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto4d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21834d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto3d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman4d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts4d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts3d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel11d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8810d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing10d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS10d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder9d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff21839d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.