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Sony Quietly Removes 4GB Memory Card From Assassins Creed Liberation Bundle

It appears that Sony has quietly removed the 4GB memory card from the Assassins Creed Liberation Bundle.

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LOGICWINS4325d ago

Who knows? They might replace it with an 8GB card.

Lovable4325d ago

Good one..that actually made me chuckle a bit

LOGICWINS4325d ago

You honestly believe that they would just remove something that was blatantly advertised from the package?

Lovable4325d ago

Yes why not? They did it with the original PS3.

glopez4325d ago

Logic

Cough *other OS* cough, cough *4 USB drives*cough, cough * ps2 compatability* cough

Man I must be coming down with a cold!

CernaML4325d ago

"Yes why not? They did it with the original PS3."

Oh really? Please, I would love for you to give an example.

The Other OS complaint isn't valid. 2pacalypsenow already explained.

Oh.. no examples you say? Typical from an uninformed fanboy.

LOGICWINS4325d ago

Glopez you should really get a prescription for that cough.

MaxXAttaxX4325d ago

PS2 BC was advertised on the older fat PS3s. Not the newer models.

Other OS and PS2 BC were never advertised on the box/package either.

BrianC62344324d ago

For people crying over Sony removing features from the PS3, most of the features added to the cost. So many people complained over the price of the PS3 so Sony cut out features to make it cheaper. The Other OS feature was taken out to make it harder on hackers so you can cry to those idiots over that one.

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Megaton4325d ago

Yeah, and Microsoft might make XBL Gold free.

I-likeFrenchFood4325d ago

that is a long F#%&ing dream

Lucretia4324d ago

lol, resturaunts would sooner charge for straws and napkins before that happens

2pacalypsenow4325d ago (Edited 4325d ago )

@Lovable if you are referring to the other OS option , then im looking at my launch 60gb box and nowhere does it say , "Other Os linux supported" And also my slim says PS2 software not supported so i dont know how you came up with that

nukeitall4324d ago

It said it in the manual online! It was touted by high level and official executives of Sony corp.

Worse, it was forced removed from my console after I bought their console! If there was legal action or something forcing Sony's hand, I would give them a pass, but they literally stole a feature away. That is a first one for me, removal of features on hardware. F'ers!!!

StraightPath4325d ago (Edited 4325d ago )

The memory cards are ridiculously overpriced. Even though i had to fork out for a 16gb.

Sony care for thier consumers? think again they just a greedy coporate company like others using proprietary memory cards to elimate competition and limit consumers choice so consumers have no other CHOICE and are required to by the memory cards from sony at thier desired price. 100% win for sony 100% lose for consumers.

PS Vita without a memory card is useless you wont able to do anything with it. Even saving games you will struggle as not all games save on the game card.

There is no internal memory at all and once again not all games save on the game card. You HAVE to purchase a memory card to play your investment properly. Meaning the price is EVEN higher of the overall system which is currently higher then dedicated home consoles.

Dont bullcrap me they did it for piracy reasons. Original PSP got hacked due to vunerability of the firmware and hackers disassembled the code allowing it to run custom codes. Nothing to do with the abandoned memory stick duo crap memory card. At the end was just used to store games on it.

The DSi uses a normal microsd that can be purchased from where ever you like.

The 3DS came with a 2gb sd normal sd card and both till this day DSi software has not been hacked or the 3DS hacked. So piracy is not a excuse.

LOGICWINS4325d ago

LOL @ people jumping to conclusions. Why don't we just wait for Sony's response on this?

Wolfbiker4325d ago

Actually they used dedicated memory cards for the same reasons that apple doesn't allow SD cards, because they want the same class memory cards for all systems so they all perform the same, however they are way over priced....they should have went the onboard memory route with the option to upgrade.

Also $250 is a fine price, the PSP was same price at launch, don't be so short sighted my friend.

RememberThe3574325d ago

The way I read it was they used proprietary memory card to help stave off piracy. But you can hate them if you want. I agree that not having internal memory is pretty f'in stupid.

nveenio4325d ago

As long as Sony keeps ponying up the unmatchable AAA games, I'll gladly pay a little extra for their standardized memory cards.

ChronoJoe4324d ago

That said the vita system itself is extremely good value relative to the hardware so I don't resent them for wanting to make money back on the memory cards.

You don't need anything more than a 4gb one really if you're going to buy physical copies of games.

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mafiahajeri4325d ago

The 4gb one is useless anyway

Nimblest-Assassin4325d ago (Edited 4325d ago )

Ebgames: http://www.ebgames.com/ps-v...

bestbuy: http://www.bestbuy.com/site...

The 4GB is still listed... might just be an error,since the link in the article looks completely different from the screenshot... also considering the fact the bundle is the same price as the base model.... the vita might be getting a price drop

WeskerChildReborned4325d ago

That would be a steal if it did. I hope this isn't Sony being greedy and taking it back cause i hate when they take something out when they say you get it. That's like saying you get TV and it includes a remote but they take the remote out and only includes the TV cause don't you need a memory card just to play the PS vita?

GribbleGrunger4325d ago (Edited 4325d ago )

edit: it appears that it has been removed

Mounce4324d ago (Edited 4324d ago )

@glopez

That isn't Logic, telling yourself that won't make it become truth, that and I voted you off as a troll.

Other OS was removed due to the tampering of the system as it became a liability, a vulnerability. PS2 emulation was removed as it was a Lesser-desired feature that and PS2's are pretty much found in most homes, statistically am sure less than 50% of the people who bought their PS3 actually sold their PS2 in the process. It was removed so they could further reduce the cost for that 'Delicious' $299 price tag that they badly needed and then got Kevin Butler to advertise.

I hope your cold consumes you :) You seem to speak very delinquent-like when you have a cold.

As for the News story, perhaps it was an inconclusive means of saying there will be a memory card and 4GB by default was to slip in that idea, but perhaps the AC game installation file is ridiculously big so they took it off so not to confuse it when they could switch it to 8GB. Who'd care about a 4GB Bundle when the game says it take 3.0GB installation or more? Barely anyone. Best to wait to see at Launch rather to see what is the final decision.

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tehpees34325d ago (Edited 4325d ago )

I wonder if they are making us buy it separately. I can see why they would want to :P

KeiserSosay47884325d ago

It's pretty unbelievable how much more expensive their memory cards are, in my opinion.

Hicken4325d ago

It's pretty not, though. How expensive where those 360 hard drives when the system first came out? Or memory cards for any other system ever when they were first released?

Why do people act like this has never happened before, when in fact it happens EVERY TIME?

Megaton4325d ago

The fact that it can be compared to 360 hard drives is proof enough of severe price gouging.

wwm0nkey4325d ago

It shouldnt happen ever though, I wish Microsoft would let us use and HDD on a 360 and I wish Sony would let me use a SD card on my VITA, but they make A LOT of money this way because its cheap to makes the memory cards and HDD but they sell them at an inflated rate.

givemeshelter4325d ago

It's price gouging anyway you look at it. MS does it and Sony does it. The cost of those memory cards are ridiculous.

OmniSlashPT4325d ago

I remember buying a 64mb memory card for the ps2 for 69 euros...daaamn it sure looks ridiculous now, but it was a huge improvement from the 8mb memory card the ps2 had.

WooHooAlex4325d ago

@Megaton
Not really tho, its like that for ALL mobile devices.
An 8gb ipod touch is $199 but a 32gb is what, $299? $269? Something like that.
The same pricing model is used on basically all tablets and smartphones too. Everyone does this, because they can get away with it.

JaredH4325d ago (Edited 4325d ago )

So Sony's competitors for the Vita are now tablets and smartphones? If I remember correctly the majority of people on this site say the exact opposite.

Sony's competitor is the 3DS and they allow cheap sd and sdhc cards of many brands, not just their own.

specialguest4324d ago

Why is the same old defensive tactics always used? Comparing it to another systems rip off price, especially one that is not a direct competitor doesn't justify the Vita's overpriced memory card cost at all.

Just because it happens EVERY TIME doesn't make it acceptable.

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KeiserSosay47884325d ago (Edited 4325d ago )

@Hicken

I didn't really say anything about Microsoft. What I should have said was that any company that forces proprietary add on memory, cables, etc. JUST to force you to buy THEIR stuff at a higher average price is just shady as hell and MANY companies, including Microsoft and Apple do this. I'm not acting as if it's never happened before. I'm only saying that it's wrong. No matter how you spin it in favor of your favorite company, whoever that may be, it's wrong. Always.

Hicken4325d ago

That's assuming that their only reason for doing so is to make you pay for their stuff at a higher price.

Given that the PSP, through the Memory Stick Pro Duo, had been hacked for quite a while at this same point in its life, I think the Vita's memory card choice makes some sense(I mean, since Sony gave that as their primary reason for creating a new memory format).

I'm not singling Microsoft or anybody else out for this; rather, I'm trying to make the point that new tech- be it memory card or otherwise- is expensive when it releases.

Are any of the consoles the same price as when they released? No: over time, as the cost of production went down, so, too, did their prices. The same goes for even things such as PC hard drives: a TB two or three years ago was about twice as much as it is now.

New tech is expensive. Bottom line. Memory formats, being software-based technology, are no exception.

Not trying to say it's not expensive. Not trying to say I wouldn't rather have a much lower price. Just trying to bring perspective to the issue. Sony claimed its proprietary memory for the Vita was done for security purposes, and it's undoubtedly done better than it would have running an SD or Pro Duo card.

Skateboard4325d ago

This sucks, but 4GB is too little anyway. I would get a bigger card even if it came with 4GB.

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies15d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken15d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga15d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken15d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6415d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long14d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197214d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic14d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12515d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91315d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer15d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91314d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit14d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher15d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6914d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit14d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher15d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken15d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197214d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic14d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2315d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218315d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder15d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts15d ago

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades21d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken21d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades21d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii21d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit22d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos22d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9522d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia22d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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