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Sony considering “buy PS Vita game, get PS3 version free” for PS Plus subscribers

An online survey Sony posted has revealed some potential new features heading to Playstation Plus that benefit both PS3 and PS Vita owners.

Currently, the PS Plus subscription service is under-going a re-vamp in order to get more subscibers by tempting them with PS3 games for free. Sony announced at E3 there would be a PS Plus service for the Vita too, in the hope of boosting Vita sales.

Snookies124323d ago (Edited 4323d ago )

Well that's awesome, though doesn't FFX HD already do this? I thought I heard it would...

Not that it matters, I'm buying both versions anyway, because that game was amazing...

Zuperman4323d ago (Edited 4323d ago )

If Sony ported PS3 games over to Vita for free under PS+

I'll tell you what will happen

1. PS3 + Vita Hardware Sales increases.
2. PSN+ Sales increases.
3. Game Sales increases.
4. MORE GAMES FOP BOTH HARDWARE
5. GAMERS WIN ;)

INSTANT WIN

milohighclub4323d ago (Edited 4323d ago )

But does this mean they both have to be downloaded from psn or would customers get codes when they buy games??? Its just that new ps3 games are 49.99 on psn but get them on release day for between £30 n £40 from else way. If it's purely download only then I hope they lower the price of ps3 games.

Edit: and it mentions this in the article...

MaxXAttaxX4323d ago

Either one is a win by me.

plmkoh4323d ago

Finally someone who builds a list of things and doesn't use "???" followed by "profit".

It's not even funny, so good on you.

Dark-vash4323d ago

And then, you stop paying for PSN+ and have 0 games to play!

Screw the digital market, they will not get away with it, and that's why the PSP Go Floped!

I like to have value for my money, and getting 2 games for one is in fact great, until you notice you cant play them without PSN+, you can't play them over your friends, you can't borrow them and you cant sell them to afford other games!

Awesome_Gamer4323d ago

100% agree with Zuperman, that would be a win for PlayStation owners :)

hay4323d ago (Edited 4323d ago )

Totally agree, free for PSN+ users could make Playstation branch and Gamers happy.

@Dark-vash: One does not simply stop paying for PSN. Not after what Playstation offered this month, hell no.

Dark-vash4323d ago

@hay

I didn't even start! They can offer whatever they want!

Not that I don't own digital games, but as a collector, digital doesn't fulfill my needs!

darthv724323d ago

i wont take credit for this but I posted a similar idea shortly during e3 week. I was thinking that perhaps sony should offer vita versions of games on the same disc as the ps3.

It is a little different but in a way you are getting both games for the price of 1. I hope they go through with this.

It would increase sales of not only the hardware (ps3/vita) but also the titles supported.

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DOMination-4323d ago

AFAIK FFX HD is NOT doing this. There was an article a while back that suggested titles that shared cross-platform multiplayer would provide the other console version for free.. so the assumption was stuff like Wipeout HD, SF vs. Tekken, etc. would be applicable but not a single player title like FFX.

Would be nice though, it would make me get PS+.

Patriots_Pride4323d ago

This would problaby only applpy to Sony 1st party games.

jujubee884323d ago

But, Playstation could easily cut a deal to pay royalties for 3rd party developers.

Even so, I suspect Ubisoft, EA sports would get onto this type of deal day one.

Sevir4322d ago

if you buy the PSvita version online you also get the ps3 version for free instantly from the store! So i'm sure with this already being done on a number of first party title plus a select few 3rd party titles sony has been in talks with 3rd party publishers to see the best possible way to do this in proper execution! I say When sony does roll this out their will be a plethora of major publishers on board to make it worth the purchase of PS+

avengers19784323d ago

If its true I would love it, I just dont have the funds to buy two versions of the same game.
And so far what the vita can do has impressed me, but really looking forward to more games built from the ground up with vita....
Also want God of War for Vita, and Infamous, New Games though not re-releases.

SilentNegotiator4323d ago

Awesome, but the path to hell is paved with good intentions.

Either make it happen or don't get my hopes up, Sony.

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DontShoot-Me-Bro4323d ago (Edited 4323d ago )

This is what i thought would have been done day 1. Especially with top seller titles like FIFA & COD. I would definitely go out and buy a Vita if i know i could play people who are using the PS3 from my VITA by just buying 1 copy.

But knowing I might have too buy 2 copies of the same game for the PS3 & VITA is too much money.

Sevir4322d ago

the concept if its a game vita specific and not a port. because if its the exact same game on PS3 and PSVita then it makes sense like WipeoutHD/2048 or UMVC3 which both do this and MLB the show 12. but a game like COD Black Ops 2 and Black Ops:Declassified or AC3 and AC3:Liberation Just wouldn't work because they are presumably stand alone games made specific to the vita and have different content to their PS3 main offerings... So i can only assume something like this would be for games that will have exact same content. like SF-X-TK or something that will have the same content across both platforms.

Darth Stewie4323d ago

It should be the other way around. Sony should make it for example if you buy PS:ABR on PS3 it comes with a code for a digital download version for Vita. By doing this Sony will get more sales for the PS3 version and huge increase in Vita memory stick sales.

Soldierone4323d ago

Yeah, but PS3 games cost 60 bucks and Vita titles are only 20 to 40. So as a customer, i love the Buy a Vita title get a Ps3 title free :P

SandWitch4323d ago (Edited 4323d ago )

That would be cool, but there is one huge problem. People who have PS3 but don't have PS Vita (or vice versa) will sell digital code to some Vita owner and thus developers will lose half of their earnings.

So such scheme is only possible on PSN titles.

miyamoto4323d ago

but isn't the catch is...that this will only work with one PS+ account?

SamPao4323d ago

yeah but it should be like this

"once you enter the ONLINE-Pass, you get the code for the vita version, so it does only work with your acc"

SuburbanHell4323d ago

Agreed, since the PS3 title is going to be a little more expensive anyway, have it so if you purchase the PS3 title you get a digital download code for the Vita.

black9114323d ago

Vita needs a better/cheaper 3G/4G service. Games are not problem. Whats the point of having call of duty if I can't play it online with friends anywhere.

sloth33954323d ago

the 3g/4g isnt for games to be played online for a shooting game

black9114323d ago

This gen of gaming is all about online unless your going for the casual market. Trust me if Sony starts 4G psvita $60 a year sales will sky rocket.

DOMination-4323d ago

Like what was said, the Vita isn't designed to play games on a mobile network at all. It could happen in future I guess but the infrastructure still isn't there. It would be annoying to have migrating hosts every five seconds because someone lost their 3G connection.

rjdofu4323d ago

@black911: online is for casual. Lol @ thinking COD is hardcore.

Sevir4322d ago

I'm sure as hell positive that 4G LTE Networks already being fleshed out and launched by major networks, Verizon and ATT already and Sprint this year and Tmo Next year will all cause sony to Have a 4GLTE Vita with a plan thats reasonable on those LTE networks will happen sometime next year or 2 years from now! 3G was just the first step. and i'm sure Sony is seeing that Apple's Ipad and other Android Tablets are coming with 4GLTE data plans that are more conducive to gaming on the go with multiplayer!

Its only a matter of Time!

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Nutsack4323d ago (Edited 4323d ago )

If you want to play online through 3G, tether it from your phone or MiFi modem. Vista connects through WiFi then and you can play online. Fixed!

I even play online on XBL and PSN with 360/PS3 on trips when I take one of them with me over 3G/MiFi, lag free and no connection problems

3G on Vista is for messaging, trophy checking only, no online gaming

catfrog4323d ago

people who want a better wireless service for their games are going to be sorely disappointed, right now will likely be the best it ever gets for gaming through large cell towers.

spectrum has physical limitations, you can only send so much data through radiation before interference patterns start to effect your information. right now the industry is just starting so we have a lot of spectrum available for use, but in the future more and more spectrum will be designated for other uses (or we'll socialize the cell industry to create many smaller 'tower' structures to service smaller and smaller areas, reducing spectrum cost on the larger scale)

the spectrum right now is used, its all taken, the cell companies dont even have the best (most useful part of) the spectrum to use, theyre stuck with the less useful parts of the spectrum because companies like fox are holding onto their licensing for the spectrum from back when television was broadcast to antennas on your tvs. their reasoning is that as more people want to use data wirelessly, the cost of that data will go up, and with it spectrum cost will rise, and because they have the best/largest piece of the spectrum, they can control this, which can make them a lot of money.

tl;dr want faster cell plans for gaming? stop watching fox (also the other very old cable providers) movies/shows, when they need money they'll sell their spectrum. (btw, getting the spectrum out of the limbo that its in will not only raise cell speeds, it'll create availability and lower cost also. yes, your cell phone bill will go down when fox sells their spectrum licensing)

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies11d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken11d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga11d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken11d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6411d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long11d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197211d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12511d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91311d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer11d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91311d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit11d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher11d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6911d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit11d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher11d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken11d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197211d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2311d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218311d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder11d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

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"... off a cliff"

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades17d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken17d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades17d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii17d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit19d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos19d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9519d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia19d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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