TGH Writes: "It seems an image that has been circling around the internet which was first thought to be some sort of lame joke, turns out may be true after all."
Seems legit, but also seems strange that they'd insert a sequel to XII so long after its release. Granted they did the same thing for Final Fantasy VII and its revival period.
I give up on trying Square. At this point I just dont care what Wada does with your company anymore. You are producing things people arent asking for. As a matter of fact fans ask you not to do something like this and you do it anyways.
Fan: I want Versus XII Square: Okay then you'll love XIII-2 Fan: Huh?
Fan: The fans want a Final Fantasy VII remake. Square: Then you'll be happy to hear that we are remaking Final Fantasy X and IV (for the 9th time). Fan: That's not what we asked.
Fan: Square we dont care about any of your current projects anymore. Just move on and make XV so we dont have to remember the last few bad FF. Square: How conveniant! We are proud to announce that we are making a sequel to Final Fantasy XII! Fan: MOTHERFUC*****!!!!!!!!!!
FFXII is my favorite FF game of all time.I played at least 200 hours before retiring the game for good.However I agree with you,no one is asking for a sequel.
FFXII had a great ending which does not need any more continuing stories.That FFXII Revenant Wings game did not count.
Fan: We'd really like a Final Fantasy XII sequel. ;) Square: Then we're pleased to announce...ah, I see what you did there. Too bad, FFXII sequel it is then. Fan: :(
While I can't call it my favourite FF of all time, it was my favourite PS2 Final Fantasy. I won't go into the reasons I didn't care so much for FFX, or like I need to say anything about X2. FF12 was like Final Fantasy Tactics (one of my favourite games of all time) and laid out like a standard RPG; it was grand. I played it for over 150 hours and I honestly have no desire for a sequel. Personally, I wouldn't mind an HD remake, but I don't think the game needs a sequel. Literally, the only 2 S-E games I've bought this entire generation are Nier and Star Ocean 4. And neither of them were developed by S-E.
lol actaully liked XII it was one of my most favorite in the series and Im kind of excited about this news. Granted...where the hell is my Versus its almost been a decade lol
Well this really does show what Square Enix is all about. The FF13 defenders where all lovey dovey with Square when 13-2 got announced. I bet they are changing their tune now.
I actually liked 12. I don't mind a FF12-2, but I really want FFV13 to come out since it was announced FIRST!!!
BUT we all know that new titles take precedence right and therefore VS13 will never get released since technically it's an "old" title now lol?
I've been curious about the rumored FF12 sequel that got cancelled a while back. Let's hope this sequel is as much an RPG as FF12 was (and nothing like sh*t FF13).
Just like FF4 The After Years (a sequel no one thought of asking) was a sequel 17 years after the original and turned out pretty good.
Also, not everyone cares for a FF7 remake. I'd like to see a a remake of FF4, 6 or 9 in full 3D with current gen(or next-gen) graphics).
P.S. FF4 was only remade twice. Complete Edition and DS version. Not 9 times.
I may be the only one on here to say this. But Im excited for a sequel to FF12..
It's a much better way / style for square to tap into the action wrpg feel that they want to tap into. FF12 was action orientated and had the big open world to explore. but it also contained a very strategic battle system to make the game play and leveling system feel deep (something wrpg's lack).
I know FF12 has gotten its share of hate, but I think it is one of the best in the series. This is a much better direction then FF13 to try to capture some of the wrpg market.
I may get piled with disagree's but I like this decision by SE. (and that isn't something I have said often this generation).
i haven't really enjoyed a final fantasy game since 2001 when FFX came out. 12 was meh, 13 was a disappointment, haven't dared touched 14, and still waiting on versusXIII (which will hopefully own).
SE you have disappointed for more than a decade... really?!
FF XII is also one of my favorite installments in the series. For it's time everything about it from graphics to gameplay were excellent. The mob hunts and Esper hunts were especially addicting. I'd love to see a true sequel but am sure that without Matsuno involved it will end up sucking.
FFXII was my favorite PS2 era FF and I really hope that if this is true it plays in a similar fashion and retains all the things that made FFXII so good back then.
I always thought it was a shame that FFXII was so hated back when it was released but it seems that as time went on more and more people came around to liking it(or the people who were so vocal about hating it slowly just stopped talking) Either way I hope they reveal this in full at E3 and I hope it will be as good as FFXII was.
I just want them to finish the one game they announced 6 years ago!!! Is that too much to ask? I just want them to finish one thing before they move on to 10 other projects.
Just put everyone on Versus XIII. Release it. Then split the teams back up to work on their respective projects.
I'd love to see a "complete" FFXII. You know, one where they actually have the whole story in the game, so that the you don't play for tens of hours without any dialog. Aside from Balthier and Basch (and Asche, I suppose) the cast was filled with non-entities. It sucked that FFXII's story was so half-assed, especially considering how absolutely brilliant the rest of the game was.
But, in all seriousness, I don't forsee there EVER being any new FFXII stuff, outside of maybe an HD port for PS3/Vita.
If there is a sequel, though, odds are it'll be released worldwide before Versus.
My memory is a bit hazy, but as I recall, the chief reason for FFXII's butchered narrative and empty characters (as well as the obscenely long development time) was that the project leads switched half-way through.
So, in a sense, FFXII was a game without the creator of FXII to begin with.
I liked FFXII it was a good game,i didn't like it at first and i can see why other people didn't like it but seriously no one is asking for a sequel.
we need a brand new FF that's as good as the old games if not even better! or at least finish off FF versus XIII.
Besides the sequel will ruin my memory of how much i enjoyed FFXII and lets not forget all the DLC milking this game would get.
*sigh* square just be good again! make me excited for a FF like i used to be! after all you didn't sell millions of copys of FFVII,VIII,IX and X through DLC milking and sequels nobody asked for.
Make the amazing original epic games you once did and the money and sales will follow...
Probably get alot of hate for this but i have to say it.
FFX was nearly as linear as XIII, Was by far the most repetitive of all the FF games. Had one of the most cliche story's and half the characters were cheese puffs. FFXII was a vastly superior game in every way.
Edit: Forgot to add, as stated above. FFX already had a sequel, it was called FFX-2 and it sucked monkey balls even worse than X.
I for one hated the direction of 12... I hated the political story! and the characters all sucked. Ivalice as a world just wasn't interesting and i couldn't bring myself to completing it! >_> In my opinion they could have done a sequel to FF9, the world of terra was awesome and the characters in that are amazing! Honestly the worlds that sakeguchi crafted were simply amazing! I'm not sure what Wada is doing at that company but I don't care anymore! whats sad is that this game more than likely has been in development the same time FF13-2 was and will probably launch worldwide before Versus 13, especially with Wada confirming that FF games will now have a 2 year development cycle. After Versus 13 not playing another final fantasy game ever! it'll be Kingdom Hearts till they force Tetsuya to gimp the franchise's quality!
They made a sequel, the intro made it look like it was aimed at 10 year old girls.. can't comment on the rest of the game, it immediately got taken back to the game store after the intro ended.
I blame the voice actor, they could have given him a decent sounding voice as opposed to making him sound like someone who is just going through puberty.
Oh, you mean the man-woman with no personality? Vaan is probably one of the worst things to come out of the FF franchise. Honestly, whoever decided to make that the main character of XII NEEDS to be slapped. Balthier was 100 times more interesting.
With that said, the FFXII story sucked in my opinion. I went through it like 3 times and it STILL made no freaking sense, or maybe it was so lackluster my mind didn't want to grasp it. The gameplay was fun, but aside from Balthier and a few others the characters were unimaginative, never stood out, and had hardly any meaning at all. The color scheme was also as boring as plotline being all greyish brown. There was hardly any color at all in the environments save a few areas.
XII was good from a gameplay standpoint. I put in around 200 hours in my main game, but it in no way deserves a sequel. Give one that REALLY deserves it *cough* VI *cough* Shoot, I'd take a sequel to just about any other FF game rather than XII sorry to say.
EDIT: On second thought, I don't want Enix touching FFVI in any way for a sequel. They'd ruin it so badly... XD
Indeed, I dont know why he was there at all. Many strong and likeable male and female characters in the cast, yet the "hero" is a girly teenager, not well voiced, without any connection to the story, besides "I want to be a pirate too". Maybe for the star wars concept square desperately needed their own Luke Skywalker? If so, they failed.
Vaan is not the main character. The story revolves around Ashe and the relationship between Baltheir and his dad (when it comes to which characters play the biggest part). You simply start the game as Vaan. In no way does that make him the main character
Jeez...Sqaure are so out of touch with their fanbase
"Hey Square we want FF13 Versus"
"Here you can have FF13"
"...Square we want Versus still, oh and a FF7 remake"
"Here you can have FF13-2"
"SQUARE WE WANT FF13 VERSUS, A FF7-9 REMAKE...A SEQUEL EVEN"
"Here you can have a FF12 sequel"
FF12 was average, it wasn't bad and it wasn't good...why do they have to do a sequel to that.
Do one for FF8 or FF9...theres so many things you can do in those games.
Is this Sqaures thing now...to do sequels to past FF games
I think they can't be arsed to think of another story, setting, characters for a new FF game. I'm guessing FF15 is a long way off unless they rename Versus to FF15 which in my opinion they should, with all the time spent on it I bet all that FF13 mytho they had in the game could be changed.
Final Fantasy Tactics console sequel or bust! None of that GBA fluffy bunny stuff either! Tactics had a pretty dark storyline with a ridiculous body count and some great characters!
1080p FFT sequel or remake. I already have War of the Lions and lemme tell ya, it's framerate sucks and it's not enough to sate my thirst!
I'll also accept an FFVII remake or Versus XIII to actually freaking launch before my death!
After playing Valkyria Chronicles, I believe that FF Tactics could use that gameplay style if it was brought to consoles. Imagine walking on the playing field as T.G. Cid and busting out a Lightning stab on a 3D field? That would be a pre-order purchase for me.
Well its probably a different group of people. And even if there are people who work on more than one game, I still think they're making progress with Versus. It's a good thing that they take their time. Sometimes leaving something and coming back to it will give you fresh ideas and inspiration. It'll come when it's ready. SE has the manpower to work on multiple games.
Has anyone noted that it looks more like a sequel to Vagrant Story than FFXII? Even the writing style of Valiant Saga and the premise is similar to Vagrant Story. The T in Valiant is written just like the T in Vagrant. If this is true then, well... I WILL BE DAMNED!
Did you never notice that FF12 looks very similar to Vagrant Story? It's not a coincidence. I'm thinking no one ever told you that FF12 and Vagrant Story are part of the same "universe".
That's because Vagrant Story, FF Tactics, and Final Fantasy XII were largely done by the same people and not the standard FF team. All 3, and XII for a good part were directed by Yasumi Matsuno, the art was done by Akihiko Yoshida, and the music was done by amazing composer Hitoshi Sakimoto. I'm sure there's a lot of other of the same team members in there. I love the work these guys do as just about everything they touch tends to be golden. :)
Thanks for explaining it to Larry. I was just going to reply that all three of the games mentioned by him were by the same team and set within the same universe. All of the fans already knew that and it isn't a mystery.
Not only that, but they're all set in the exact same world, Ivalice. They're hundreds of years apart, if not more, but XII, Vagrant Story, and Tactics all take place in different parts of the same world at different points in time.
Asim, you were the one who seemed amazed, surprised and proud of yourself that you just noticed the T in Vagrant Story is the same is the T in this. Not me.
I didn't need anything explained to me. I knew FF12 was set in the same reality as Vagrant Story since Game Informers first sneek peek at FF12 in which they said the two games were tied together.
Maybe it's just coincidence that you now know, after it was told to you, just like it's coincidence the Ts in Vagrant and Valiant are the same font. *rolls eyes* lol
And @ Imalways right. LOL, nice link there. I love the whole part of that FF12 summary that gets into all the things Tidus and Yuna from FF12 go up to........LOL They even show pictures of Tidus and Yuna. It's amazing how many people on the internet are wrong about everything., "Tidus and Yuna from FF12"........even a pic.........SMH
Come on bro, I cant believe that you hate Vagrant Story. I can understand the other two but Vagrant Story was awesome and is a legendary game now. Did you play it when it was released or more recently? It really makes a difference. I have often seen that many players who play a game long after it was released do not like it.
From what I read it may not be a sequel with the same characters or even gameplay. They're probably just expanding on the world ivalice more. I welcome this. I loved Ivalice in Tactics Vagrant Story, and 12.
Am I the only one that thought 12 was enjoyable? :/ That aside, please don't let this be true. They have the X remaster and the legend FFVersus13 they need to complete.
I really don't know what to think. FFXII was my favorite final fantasy and i craved a new game in that setting with that system...but not like this. I feel like it's going to be a watered down version of what it could be if it had the attention required for it. Kinda like almost all square games nowadays!
Based on the record of the other Ivalice Alliance games, it's probably going to be a good game, but like with every game (ever), I'm going to wait until I see anything of it to judge better.
OK IM SORRY FOR THE CAPS BUT SOMEONE NEEDS TO SAY IT AND SAY IT LOUD!!! WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH SQUARE??!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS COMPANY???? THEY KEEP BEATING AROUND THE BUSH WITH SEQUELS TO THEIR WORST GAMES. JUST START A FF7 OR FF6 REMAKE ALREADY U IDIOTS!!!! GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT. INSTEAD U BRING US FF 10-2, FF 13-2, AND NOW FF 12-2. WHAT HAPPENED TO U SQUARE. WHY ARE U SUCH A GARBAGE COMPANY NOW?
So they somehow let this leak and think this is a good idea and yet Versus XIII (the game that gets asked about on EVERY SINGLE SE ARTICLE/NEWS STORY) is still in the dark after 15 months with no news.
SE just give me Versus so I can finally forget about you.
You can say that about Capcom this gen too. I'm a happy camper. I put over 150 hours in FF XII. The bad thing is that the battle system was soo advance I can't go back to the any other FF game, LOL.
The game was never annoying to me, no retarded battle screen, good graphics, a automated battle system that you controlled every aspect, good music that never got annoying, bunny girl, big areas with multiple paths, can change any character when you what, rare items that needed a specific way to find and chaining black rare bomb monsters to get a ninja sword :D did twice, oh and yeah : ) Yiazmat
Bottomline is; Square knows that once they give us Versus XIII*, Kingdom Hearts 3 or FFVII remake, no one is gonna give a damn about anything else they produce.
It's like when you go to a birthday party only for the cake. Once you get your slice, you leave. & dammit, we been waiting for our slice & ice cream scoop since forever now, I almost don't want it. It's probably staled & spoiled.
meh, i loved ffxii, and i would probably play the sequel...but honestly, i just trudged thru 13-2...my god, academia, and finding those gravitron cores was annoying as hell, worst time ive ever had with a ff game...x-2 might be close, as i couldnt even finish it. idk squeenix, i think ive lost faith altogether, while versus did look good, now it sort of resembles a weaker devil may cry combat system/ or some other hack n slash...imo
The twitter account is clearly just someone hoping to sell the account to SE if the image turns out to be true.
And if they were going to make a FF game in Canada surely they would make it at Square Enix Montreal you know the 300+ dev studio that they opened across the road from Edios Montreal...
I enjoyed FFXII but we all know why they aren't tackling VII right? They are saving that remake for a rainy day when their finances are really in trouble and they need a get out of jail free card.
@Lilioups: Thanks for the input but i never said cheap. I said cheesy and cliche. Also sales mean F'all.
Nobody knows what a game will be like til after they have bought and played it. All sales determine is pre-expectations not quality of product. FFX sold well because Squares rep up til that point was good. By the time XII came out, alot of people had already given up on squareenix becuase of the joke called X-2.
As for XII's plot, most people were simply too stupid to get a grasp on it, XII had by far the most complex and well created story of the entire FF series.
Edit: just wanted to add, your opinion on sales is way off.
FFX - First week sales: 1.4m FFXII - First week sales: 1.76m
Squeenix are dumb and out of touch enough to make a sequel to one of the least popular Final Fantasy's out there. Why not give the people what they want and make a direct sequel to VI/VII/VIII/IX instead.
I dont know about this..FF12 was fun but the storyline was weak,were controlling a guy who literally have nothing to do with anything except sewer rats
WTF......ff12 was easily the worst final fantasy ever.
gameplay literally played itself (gambit system let you put controller down, you go to work come back and your still alive and gained a bunch of levels) basically you turn the game into a bot.
the characters had NO uniqueness. nothing made them iconic, they were all just clones of each other with different skins, not even different animations.
the main character wasnt even vaan it was ashe and she was annoying, vaan sucked, everyone but basch sucked.
such a crap FF, a decent jrpg.
way rather have 13-3 than this because atleast there is still more story to be told in the 13 world
AND WAIT WAIT! WTF!!!!! Developed by Edios???? WTF!!!!!! if its true, why the hell does square have to outsource the game?? -_- freakin stupid
12 is one of the few FFs game that deserves a sequel. It was truly revolutionary for the franchise, there wasn't a single flaw in the game, everything from graphics to voice acting to game play was excellent and full of polish and detail. A sequel is a very welcome addition to the FF family.
SE is going to make a sequel of this game because they arent confident anymore to make a new entry in another universe (Because XIII universe is shit)so they are exploring an already developed world.
I loved FFXII but like XIII-2, is a sequel that no one asked for.
you obviously didn't play 13-2. It was a great game, and the universe is pretty big especially with all the time traveling. 12 was the worst game in the series.
you didnt even have to hold the controller to play it, it was bad
Played XIII-2 about 10 hours untill i decided to stop, Time traveling is a bad plot device but i enjoyed 8 witouth problem but XIII-2 didnt make sense in the slightest and Serah and Noel were Dull main characters. If a world dont engage me in the first 10 hours, that world is shit and thats what happened to me in both iterations of XIII.
XII was a great game the gambit system allowed you to fully customize your characters and you can issue commands whenever you want and a lot of sidequest made my day with this game making it the longest i have played a FF along with X.
The history of XII is boring and the characters dull but the battle system made my day.
People should be excited for this. It's probably GRIN's game reactivated.
Other reason to be excited = The Lea Monde region is mentioned, the chief location of one of the best games ever made - Vagrant Story, which has long been hinted at being within the Ivalice universe. Also, there's mention of a religious fanatic, so I'm expecting some serious Vagrant Story fanservice, and maybe even a connection established between XII and Vagrant Story.
Honestly I can't wait. And XII is a great game you haters. Maybe it shouldn't be called a Final Fantasy game but who really cares? It's a great game with amazing gameplay and an outstanding world, as well as absolutely superb music (it's sort of an acquired taste especially if you're an Uematsu acolyte, but I'm telling you it's really good.) I'll admit the characters and the dynamics between them are pretty weak, and the story is unfortunately a little bit forgettable, but I still think it's a great game.
Excuse my butting in on your convo here but I've read an unlimited amount of hate comments about ffxiii, and ffxiii-2.... I don't understand!!! Why do you hate it do much?? Im being honest because I thought they were both amazing games! They had everything, great graphics, great story line, not too little action, not too much, it wasn't too easy and it wasn't too hard, u had to strategize your battles. they gave you mini games somewhat in xiii-2. The story was intricate and at first I was like wtf is going on and I had to learn what was happening. I am still playing both games even after I've completed the side quests. I love them and I think it would be awesome for a xiii-3!! Sorry to all u haters but these two ff games are my Fav.
Well first of all, it was 'too' linear. I mean I'm fine with linear rpgs but when it just goes up in a straight line....
Second, no towns. This is one of my most favorite things about rpgs is exploring a every inch of a town and just relaxing. FFXIII doesn't let you do that.
And third, involving FFXIII-2, the battle system. I personally hated the battle system. All you do is mash x on auto battle and then switch paradigms. I know you can do manual but you'd have to have inhuman speed on that, plus every fight would take WAY longer.
And exclusively for FFXIII-2, the story was bad. I haven't played it yet but I've heard this a lot. Specially the complaints about the ending...i mean why would you do that? e_e
If you didn't play ffxiii-2 then it doesn't put u in the greatest spot to say. It's a great story, it's crazy and really intricate, I did a lot of wtf? And oooooh I c! Lol. I can agree with you on the mashing x, it is pretty straightforward. And by exploring towns u mean going into houses and whatnot? Because they did both have maps to explore (13-2 had more towns). Is vsxiii like a mortal combat game? because I hear everyone asking for it when ff gets brought up but if it's like a mortal combat style game it's not even the same thing as ff!? Either way, I guess my opinion is much different then a lot of other gamers. The ending of ffxiii-2 left me hugely craving a xiii-3. It looked as if it would be an adventure for hope and Noel lol (not including the multiple endings afterward)
@Lovetwogame See what Cy_wolf said about the ending. And the fact that I'm putting in a bunch of peoples opinions together that i've looked up can't compare to your one opinion. FFXIII did NOT have any towns. FFXIII-2 might, but i honestly can't stand the battle system. And i'm the type to suffer through bad battle systems for a great story. So if I go through an entire JRPG just to receive and ending like that, it's just not worth it. You're just being optimistic if (spoiler>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>& gt;>>>>>>> >) a to be continued ending got you craving for the next sequel. A game, especially a JRPG, should NEVER have that type of ending. I mean i'm ok with hints at the end of the game and some unanswered questions that lead to sequels, but to literally stop right at the middle of the action is just downright wrong. And FFvXIII's gameplay is very similar to Kingdom Hearts (I recommend you try this series if you haven't).
wow they make remakes of crap but cant make remakes that allowed them to have a job in the first place this ship has been going down in flames and honestly i cant wait till they dissapear and go belly up so someone can buy the name and make a relevant GAME
I agree about the VII Sequel, even though it could be a disaster. Although a remake would be more of a disaster imo. People want more VII, and I think a sequel is probably the best route for them to take
But seriously I think this game could be great if it's real.
Seems legit, but also seems strange that they'd insert a sequel to XII so long after its release. Granted they did the same thing for Final Fantasy VII and its revival period.
hmm that FF was one of the worst i played,gief FFX Sequel
I hated Vaan so much, such a hard character to like.
Jeez...Sqaure are so out of touch with their fanbase
"Hey Square we want FF13 Versus"
"Here you can have FF13"
"...Square we want Versus still, oh and a FF7 remake"
"Here you can have FF13-2"
"SQUARE WE WANT FF13 VERSUS, A FF7-9 REMAKE...A SEQUEL EVEN"
"Here you can have a FF12 sequel"
FF12 was average, it wasn't bad and it wasn't good...why do they have to do a sequel to that.
Do one for FF8 or FF9...theres so many things you can do in those games.
Is this Sqaures thing now...to do sequels to past FF games
I think they can't be arsed to think of another story, setting, characters for a new FF game. I'm guessing FF15 is a long way off unless they rename Versus to FF15 which in my opinion they should, with all the time spent on it I bet all that FF13 mytho they had in the game could be changed.
Wow, Square Enix really doesn't want to remake FFVII...