Oh hun, such a drama queen.

Valenka

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User Review : Forza Motorsport 4

Ups
  • Clear graphical improvement
  • Caters to gamers of all skill levels
  • Offers a vast selection of vehicles
Downs
  • Not much different than Forza 3
  • Driving mechanics get tedious

A Revolutionary Racing Experience...Again

In 2005, Turn 10 Studios introduced us to their visionary production of professional racing in video game form. Forza Motorsport, the beginning of a series of Xbox exclusive video games, had proven to revolutionise racing in video games; its successors only furthered it's revolution. Forza, an Italian word for force or strength is only accurate and appropriate, given the game's influence on simulated racing, which (intentional or otherwise) set quite a few standards for other similar games to follow.

Turn 10's first instalment of the franchise featured over 200 drivable vehicles, organized into six different classes and three subclasses of the highest, rated by performance. Standard performance vehicles, sports cars and general performance vehicles are organised into classes D, C, and B respectively. Higher performance vehicles, supercars, and purpose-built racecars were organised into classes A, S, and R (subclasses GT, GTR, and P1.) Forza Motorsport also allowed for tuning and upgrading vehicles to a degree; there's no body kits, nitrous, or decals. Turn 10 left street racing elements out of their professional racing game for obvious reasons. These were just two features the game had to offer that showed face in later instalments. Turn 10 Studios produced a sequel two years following and a third instalment in 2009. Their most recent, Forza Motorsport 4, is their best-rated and most overall grossing game in the franchise; although generally speaking, the franchise as a whole sold over 10 million copies to date.

Forza Motorsport 4 isn't much of an innovation as was its predecessor, Forza Motorsport 3, but the game does have slight improvements (nothing vast as critics have claimed.) As featured in Forza 3, races are conducted on closed circuit tracks. These race courses are mix between circuits courses and point-to-point courses, as well as real-world and fictional locations. Each course features as reverse configuration, and many have multiple other configurations. Forza Motorsport 4 offers 500 vehicles to race with or against, a little more than its predecessor (with a little over 400 vehicles; more than 500 in the Ultimate Collection version) with many of these vehicles having appeared in the previous instalment. With over 80 manufacturers, including Aston Martin, Ferrari, Chevrolet, Nissan, and Lamborghini, to name a few; as well as several popular vehicles including James Bond's classic Aston Martin DB5, the DMC DeLorean, the well sought-after Bugatti Veyron, and even the Lamborghini Aventador, the racing experience is quite impressive.

When I first started the Forza Motorsport 4 experience, I was a little overwhelmed. The introduction sequence was quite stunning and the visuals have been vastly improved since Forza 3 (but differences are minimal to none to the naked eye), but after I got into my first race, everything felt a little too similar to its predecessor. Forza Motorsport 3 was a revolutionary experience, so one cannot expect much change in terms of gameplay, especially when it proved to be a successful approach to racing video games...however, I didn't expect the latest instalment to be a practical clone with 100 more vehicles thrown into the mix.

One significant difference I noticed when compared to Forza Motorsport 3 is that the cars you drive no longer gain levels along with you. Instead, driving a car increases your affinity with its manufacturer, which then rewards you with cash bonuses and discounts on car upgrades. It's a great system in theory, but it's baffling that with an affinity level of just four; which might take you only a handful of races to achieve, you qualify for a 100 percent discount on all parts. That means you can take your E-class Toyota MR2 with 145 horsepower and turn it into an S-class car with over 350 horsepower without spending a single credit. This makes it a lot easier for you to make your favorite cars competitive online and leaves you with more money to spend on new vehicles, but in conjunction with the new option to purchase cars using Microsoft Points, it devalues the in-game currency.

Regardless of how you acquire them, Forza 4's cars are a joy to drive, regardless of how unresponsive on the track they feel. I won't get into petty complaints, but I will admit that the game is much more enjoyable if you toss aside the conventional Xbox controller and plug in your overpriced Mad Catz steering wheel or your cheaper wireless Speed Wheel; driving is a lot less of a headache when it comes to executing sharp turns as your vehicle will actually turn as if you jerked the wheel all the way to the left or right, opposed to its reaction to an analogue stick, with the in-game steering wheel only turning about 30°. I'd invest in either, but unfortunately, I'm not too lazy to use the brake; still, one shouldn't have to if the "realistic racing simulator" actually handled appropriately.

Like previous games, Forza Motorsport 4 does a fantastic job of catering to drivers of all skill levels. Options like assisted braking and steering, traction control, and the suggested racing line make it easy to get behind the wheel and compete even if you've never played a racing game before. Using any of the driving aids, including the useful rewind feature, means you earn less prize money at the end of every race, but unless you desperately want the achievement for owning every Ferrari in the game, this is hardly a cause for concern. The only real worry with the driving aids is weaning yourself off.

With even the best and newer vehicles, the Forza games doesn't reinvent driving, but instead, it refines and improves on what proceeded it. That's no small achievement given how games left and right attempt to revolutionise their genre and fail. While Forza Motorsport 4 isn't much different than Forza Motorsport 3, I find its best redeeming factor to be being the newest game in the franchise. If you can live being "out-of-date" then I suggest waiting for a price drop before picking up this game.

Score
9.5
Graphics
8.0
Sound
8.0
Gameplay
7.5
Fun Factor
7.0
Online
Overall
7.5
coolbeans4367d ago (Edited 4367d ago )

While I'm surprised at the score, I can't say I'm surprised at the general sentiment for this title by certain fans. When looking at the Dirt and Forza series, one can't help but wonder if the racing sim genre (let me repeat that this excludes arcade racers like Mario Kart) itself is fit to allow three or more iterations per generation. There's only so much you can do with genre most heavily based on realism and going in circles.

I'm still looking forward to grabbing GT5 and Forza 4's complete editions (if they both have/get one), though. :)

Valenka4367d ago

To be perfectly honest, I didn't even feel comfortable giving the game a 7.5; whereas it's a decent game on its own, it's almost impossible to differentiate between Forza 3 and Forza 4 side-by-side. In other words, cover my eyes and put in either Forza 3 or 4 and I wouldn't be able to tell you which is which (aside from the obvious giveaways like the menus and such.)

Like you said, coolbeans, there's only so much a franchise could do before they start going in circles, and needless to say, when your games start looking like clones of a previous instalment, it's time to either stop or go in a different direction.

I felt Forza 4 to be much too similar to its predecessor and while I'm lucky enough to have had the privilege of borrowing it from my brother, I would have been one disappointed gamer had I dished out the $50 or so for my own copy, where my copy of Forza 3 suits me just fine.

Like I said in the review, unless you're one of those gamers who just has to have the most recent game in a franchise (of a certain genre of course, as some games of specific franchises are vastly different), I'd honestly give Forza 4 a pass.

hennessey864366d ago

you play Forza with a 900 degree wheel the difference between 3 and 4 is huge. Forza 3 was rubbish with a wheel and 4 feels great. The madcatz wheel is a glorified control pad and isn't worth half of what they are charging. For the same price you can get a Fanatec CSR with CSR pedals

Forza_is_King4366d ago (Edited 4366d ago )

I am a little confused.

Your title of the article states:

"A Revolutionary Racing Experience...Again"

Yet you give the game a 7.5 out of 10 because it's "too familiar to Forza 3".

You should be grading the game itself and not comparing it to other games. You can state in your review that it's very similar to Forza 3 but the overall review score shouldn't be reduced simply because it's familiar to previous titles.

Fun factor 7.5 and Online a 7? Really?
The online is plagued with so many options and features it's got a community that doesn't even race. Auction house, Rival, club house and more. Customize cars, tune cars, sell, trade, etc.

Then you have the increased online multiplayer from 8 cars to 12 cars.

No, despite your well written review, your score is grossly inaccurate. The lowest Meta score for the game is an 8. Your score doesn't justify the written review at all even when you are stating that it's a revolutionary game, regardless if it's "again". A revolutionary game is still "revolutionary". A 7.5 does NOT indicate a "revolutionary" game.

I understand reviews are just opinions and I respect your opinion.....but score wise, you are wrong plain and simple.

coolbeans4365d ago (Edited 4365d ago )

Who are you to say what determines a final score or not?

"You should be grading the game itself and not comparing it to other games."

This might make sense for a new ip, but not for a third sequel. We're meant to grade sequels both by what advancements they've made to their predecessors AND the genre as a whole. Valenka simply believes those advancements were too minor.

". . .the lowest Meta score for the game is an 8."

Don't even get me started on this ***t. Players have a right to score below the lowest meta score if they darn well please. Since you admit the written part of the review is solid, there's not point for you to bring this up.

Although Val can correct if I'm wrong, I think the title was meant to be a light-hearted joke. In a sense that it's basically taking the revolutionary stuff Forza 3 had done and regurgitating it (in the reviewer's opinion). Get off your velvet throne in determining what score is deemed "right" or "wrong" and discuss the points made.

coolbeans4365d ago (Edited 4365d ago )

-"Ah so even YOU are not sure what the point of the title was."

I think I made it clear enough that was my initial interpretation. Instead of whining about the score, you could have asked the reviewer yourself what the title meant(I know...crazy concept). Given that Val has had ample time to reply-and I have 4 agrees-it seems to me that my interpretation was correct.

-"This score is WAY below the average. About 2.6 points below the average. I think a little common sense has evaded you in your quick reply to protect the reviewer."

Common sense is what impelled me to protect the reviewer. There's no rule against user's honest opinions having to be within a certain range of the average critical score. What good are opinions if that were otherwise?

-"Now I can tell you first hand (since you seem to not be familiar with what was added to Forza 4 over Forza 3) that the multiplayer has been extended and not 'regurgitated' with the same online features that made Forza 3 'revolutionary'."

You're correct in stating I have yet to play Forza 4.

The problem with everything you mention in the quote above is that it's still up to the reviewer's subjective beliefs of what feels like an 'extension,' which makes me sympathize with you in regards to Val ignoring your PMs, since that's what opens up dialogue for you two to work this out. Since Val still has one bubble in this comment section, perhaps you can be patient and wait for a reply or PM in order for a more in-depth conversation on why she gave the online a 7/10.

-"Written review is done well, the overall score is WRONG plain and simple and leads me to believe that there was ZERO attempt to actually experience the online features."

The only thing wrong is this attempt to sully another poster's honest opinion about a certain racing title. This is becoming just as annoying as every PS3 fanboy's attempt to slander Edge's reputation on score alone. You enjoyed the context of review, but disagreed with the score. WE GET IT! Now just learn how to approach something you disagree with in a calm manner next time :).

-". . .USE THE RIGHT HEAD to think about what it is you are trying to save her from, this will prevent you from looking just as foolish as her."

*facepalm* Did you literally just slide in a penis reference?

Edit: Wise of you to change your last paragraph (in quote above).

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PS3Freak4367d ago (Edited 4367d ago )

Just popped in this game for the first time today. I was completely taken aback by the fact that the car pretty much drives itself.

I went and found the settings and turned 90% of the driving assists off. I was astonished at how much the game can hold your hand if you don't turn off assists.

After making the adjustments, the game actually felt like a simulator.

Not really criticizing, just something that turned me off briefly at the beginning.

Pintheshadows4365d ago

It isn't just Forza in fairness that does that and it's easy to turn them off.

SHIFT is the worst for it. Hold R2 to win or somesuch semi-humorous comment.

PS3Freak4365d ago

Yeah I normally wouldn't have even bothered to mention it had the game not forced you to play an opening race with all of them on.

I usually go straight to those options to turn them off, but Forza didn't let me.

Not a big deal.

Blastoise4367d ago

Played about 10 minutes in "GAME" one day. Thought the track was awesome (Some mountain top) but the driving is not very realistic

ikral4365d ago

Tryed demo, looks good, but dunnot have Xbox, so only car game except GT (I got tyred of GT) I play is Shift 2. Which is surprisingly good, so my guess is that Forza is even better.

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Top 10 Rarest Cars in Forza History

KeenGamer: "See the top 10 rarest cars to ever appear in Forza history! Thousands of cars have been featured in Forza since launch and only a handful of them have been really difficult to obtain or, in current state, impossible to drive around with. Although they were once obtainable, it's only for a limited time and, most times, for a certain price."

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MasterChief36241187d ago

I thought this was going to be about the rarest and most valuable cars in the game, based on real life manufacture numbers and value.

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The Forza Franchise Has Exceeded $1 Billion in Retail Sales

Xbox: "Today, we’re excited to share a major milestone – as of December 2016, the Forza franchise has exceeded $1 billion in retail sales."

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Overload2627d ago

Pretty much expected regarding Forza Horizon 3 (selling 2.5M units). Good numbers compared to the previous iterations.

Gazondaily2627d ago

This is good news. The best racing franchise should be supported. Glad it is. #forzaplayers

Overload2627d ago (Edited 2627d ago )

Selling more than the previous versions would be good news.

"The best racing franchise should be supported."

It is, very much so.

Gazondaily2627d ago

I know. 2.5 million copies isn't bad at all. Forza is smashing it, critically and now sales are reflecting that too.

I wonder if there will be a racer this gen that comes close critically. If so, we're truly in for a treat.

Overload2627d ago

It is amazing watching sales matter and not matter all at the same time. Same with what they reflect.

Gazondaily2627d ago

Quality matters more than sales. Always. And that's why Forza is at the top of the game. Horizon 3 deserves those sales because we need more games like it.

Kingthrash3602627d ago (Edited 2627d ago )

Great to see some good news from forza! Retailing 1 billion bucks is a pretty good milestone. I remember gta5 did it In like a week or so. It may have taken forza longer to reach this milestone and with 10 games...but hey not many have reached that milestone.

Overload2627d ago (Edited 2627d ago )

@Septic

I thought sales reflected people finally seeing the quality.

"Forza is smashing it, critically and now sales are reflecting that too."

You're all over the place.

Do they only reflect quality or what it deserves when it comes to Forza?

Gazondaily2627d ago

"@Septic

I thought sales reflected people finally seeing the quality. "

Lets be honest- frankly terrible games have seen some strong sales. Comparatively drastically weaker racers for instance have seen even higher sales.

"You're all over the place.

Do they only reflect quality or what it deserves when it comes to Forza?"

I'm not all over the place at all. Weren't you the one downplaying the sales previously? See my link below. Its not rocket science mate. The game's quality is great. Sometimes the sales numbers dont do a great game justice. We've seen that time and time again in this industry.

Forza Horizon 3 is an excellent game and the highest rated racer this gen. Now it deserves great sales doesn't it? Its very simple.

Overload2627d ago (Edited 2627d ago )

@Septic

Let's get real here. 2.5M is great for Forza Horizon 3, but it's not that impressive overall. GT Sport will most likely do that very quickly. Driveclub sold 2M and that had a terrible launch.

1B sounds like a big number, but then you realise GT5 did approximately half a billion at retail alone.

Unspoken2627d ago (Edited 2627d ago )

Sony fanboys out in force today!

Looks like your down play is back firing.

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Brazz2627d ago

"Give to Caesar what is Caesar's" right now Forza is number one hands down and other races need to work hard to get at Forza level...
I wonder if Polyphony digital will start to fight back whit GT, cause right now Forza is killing it.

Artemidorus2627d ago

The best? It's not April Fool's yet.

EpicZinger2627d ago

Best racing franchise is already heavily supported. More than 70 million sales to be precise.

corroios2627d ago

Both of your inicial comments are stealth trolling. Why cant you be happy with the news. Then you say others troll...

You already know that when another game arrived it will surpass those numbers maybe in the first 24 hours....

XanderZane2627d ago (Edited 2627d ago )

@Overload
This isn't about GT Sports or Driveclub. You always need to bring some Sony games into a conversation that has nothing to do with them. Forza games have always sold the 2-4 million even when it was on the XBox 360 with over 87 million units sold. It has it's own fanbase that buy it regularly. No one cares what GT Sports or DriveClub sold. They aren't even in the article. All you want to do is TROLL XBox One articles.

@Unspoken
Yes. Trolling Overlord has returned to another XBox One article when he most likely doesn't even own one. He was doing fine until he decided to bring Sony exclusives racers into the mix. He didn't even go for Project Cars or Need For Speed games? lmao!!

Lime1232627d ago

Fantastic numbers for FH3! Already at halfway of GT6 - the worst selling mainline Gran Turismo game.

rainslacker2627d ago

9 releases, over how many years? Retail sales over 1 billion, is anywhere between 16-20 million copies depending on the selling price(not all being $60).

It's great it makes money, don't get me wrong, but with the number of releases it's had, for how long it's been an established franchise, it's not really that remarkable.

Gazondaily2627d ago

Well if the sales don't impress you, perhaps the game itself will. For those who haven't played it, you're missing out on of the best racers ever.

Kribwalker2627d ago

It is a fantastic racing game, even if you aren't a huge fan of racing games, it's a lot of fun. I will keep supporting this series. Not the biggest sim racing fan so the mainline games I usually pass on, but I've bought FH2 and 3 and got the first one with games with gold and they're great

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rainslacker2627d ago (Edited 2627d ago )

Sorry if my putting it into perspective hurt people's feelings.

I'm glad it's making money, and the most recent game is excellent, but 1 billion over 9 releases is kind of commonplace for a moderately successful franchise.

@Dealwithit

If Forza did all that, I'd be impressed.

But for the most part, I'd not be gushing over the sales of any game, with 9 releases, that only made 1 billion at retail. At least not in the way some people here are trying to make it into being the best thing ever and indicative of the game being a high end money maker which somehow is indicative of it's quality, which is a separate matter altogether.

My numbers are sound, and while I find it wonderful that it's a successful franchise, I think too many people are looking at the number, without actually thinking about the rest of the picture.

But, if it makes you all feel better, I'll give you a freebie. 1 billion in retail sales doesn't include digital. So since you all think that Xbox somehow has a 2:1 digital vs retail attach rate, then you can run with Forza having made 3 billion.

Gazondaily2627d ago

"I'm glad it's making money"

You sure? You sure don't sound it lmao. Go play the game. It's wicked. Downplaying the sales aside, this a classic and the best racer this gen.

bouzebbal2627d ago

at the same time when you see what x1 owners have to play....
but yeah, something for you guys to justify the purchase,huh?

MyDietEqualsGames2627d ago (Edited 2627d ago )

Lol. The best. Much like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. There are a few good ones out there, including GT, however this is Forza's moment, so I will try not to take away from it. With that said, Congratulations, Turn10!

IamTylerDurden12627d ago

Overload

Driveclub sold over 3 million. It sold nearly 2.5m physical and with the f2p version it did huge digital numbers. DC is a 3m seller, and well deserved.

Septic

It's funny how u think Driveclub is a terrible game bc of the disastrous launch. If u really were the gaming aficionado u claim you'd know that Driveclub is a different game now. A dramatically improved game and a great racer. Don't act like your not referring to Driveclub in your comments here. U even posted on the PS4 N4G group that Driveclub sucked and Forza is way better. Now i realize it was this article that motivated u to make that comment.

LexHazard792626d ago (Edited 2626d ago )

They mad GT isnt the best racer anymore. So how else to get over the frustration than attacking Xbox gamers with bs...Lol.

rainslacker2626d ago

@Septic

Which one? There are nine games in the franchise. The topic here is about the franchise. If it were about FH3 making one billion at retail, then I'd be thouroughly impressed.

I have played FH3, and several other games in the franchise. But what does that matter to the point I"m trying to make that people are gushing over it, using it as an example of how great FH3 is, while ignoring the fact that it equates to around 112 million on average per release. Is 112 million per game really that amazing?

It's not poor, but as I said, it's not remarkable,or worthy of the correlations to quality that some people are making.

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GtR35olution2627d ago

Lol. I like the nice wording of saying the forza franchise is the best selling this generation when there has been a forza game every year since the xbox one release and there'll be a new game(forza 7) this year. Gran turismo sport will outsell them all and be the best driving simulator.

Gazondaily2627d ago

I'd be very impressed if GT Sport scored higher than Horizon 3. Different types of games I know but would be impressive nonetheless.

GT Sport stands the best chance of dethroning Forza Motorsport and taking the crown though. I like what I've seen so far. Has improved dramatically from what was shown at first. Sales wise also, it will definitely dominate. That's a no brainer.

Neonridr2627d ago

haven't sales of Gran Turismo been declining with each release though? You would think in 2013 when the PS3 had a huge install base, the latest game (6) would muster more than 3.5 million in sales..

Overload2627d ago (Edited 2627d ago )

"You would think in 2013 when the PS3 had a huge install base, the latest game (6) would muster more than 3.5 million in sales.."

Gran Turismo 6 Passes 5 Million Sales, Series Climbs to 76.8 Million
http://www.gamespot.com/art...

Gran Turismo 6 launched on PS3 at the same time as the PS4, which was a mistake in my opinion.

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GtR35olution2627d ago (Edited 2627d ago )

Gran turismo 6 sold over 6 million copies and gran turismo 5 sold over 10 million copies according to sony. There isnt any forza throne to be taken by gran turismo because gran tursmo is a better driving simulator where forza normally has things done in The game such as widening tracks and making cars easier to drive so it appeals more to people that would try racing a gtr with a civic or a dodge neon.

People who normally talk about review scores and menu system when comparing forza and gran turismo should actually be talking about the games content and which is actually a better driving simulator. Gran turismo games are made to be as realistic as possible to where the cars in the games try to simulate the driving physics of the real life ones. Forza games normally has cars with characteristics that are unlike realistic ones and youll see silly things like stock vehicles ets being 10 seconds faster than they are in real life.

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Elit3Nick2627d ago

There isnt any forza throne to be taken by gran turismo because gran tursmo is a better driving simulator where forza normally has things done in The game such as widening tracks and making cars easier to drive so it appeals more to people that would try racing a gtr with a civic or a dodge neon.

I don't see why this would make it any less of a simulator than GT, especially considering that engine tuning is a big part of GT as well. Being able to race a large variety of cars together is part of Forza's success, some people don't like being restricted to certain cars, and it's extremely rewarding working on a car to make it competitive. I'm sure GT Sport's reliance on eSports and restricted car choices will turn off some GT fans, but that's the kind of niche Sony is selling it for, while GT7 will be the more traditional GT game.

TheCommentator2627d ago

Maybe GT will go back to it's roots, so you can simulate driving on an oval with your analog sticks rubber-banded together! GT: Port is already halfway to it's roots anyways, at least judging by the graphics and AI, so anythings' possible.

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darthv722627d ago

I like both GT and Forza. That has to account for something?

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IAmLoki2627d ago

Congrats to Forza and Microsoft for becoming one of the world's most successful driving game franchises. The Forza Horizon series is my favorite with beautiful open world racing, jaw dropping visuals, the best controls, and amazing racing tracks, jam packed with intense action.

mcstorm2627d ago

I agree and I hope the sales for it goes up. Enjoyed 1 and 2 but for me 3 seems to set the bar again for open world racing games.

20live2627d ago

not sure why you are being down voted , Forza Horizon 3 was epic

XanderZane2627d ago

The trolls on here are down voting because they think GT Sports will be better, even though it's not out yet. I hope GT Sport is better then GT5 & GT6. Those games made many fans leave the series. Polyphony needs to come up with something new for GT Sport. I'll continue to enjoy Forza 6 and Forza Horizon 3 while we wait.

XanderZane2627d ago

LOL!! Don't believe me with GT5 vs GT6 sales? Look again. Keep down voting me when I'm right. Sales going down, down, down with GT ever since GT3. Maybe Overlord can damage control this without having to mention an XBox game.

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

GT3 sales - 14.98 million worldwide
GT4 sales - 11.66 million worldwide
GT5 sales - 10.70 million worldwide.
GT6 sales - 3.32 million worldwide
Over 7 million gamers suddenly stopped buying Gran Turismo series after GT5? This is on a game console with over 87 million sold.

edeprez2627d ago

I finished FH3, but it really wasn't that great. I really loved FH2, probably my favorite racing game. It's just a copy/paste of FH2, most of the races feel similar to each other, most of the cars are behind a paywall, and the showcases were a letdown for me. Also who wants to customize and name every race/bucket list challenge, i would have been happier with more sets of challenges like in FH 2.
Anyway, i may have ruined the experience for myself by replaying FH2 before launch, so maybe I'm way off base here, i just didn't get any of that "epic" that you noticed.

MRMagoo1232627d ago (Edited 2627d ago )

@xanda

Sony announced gt6 sold over 5 million so you pulling vg numbers and being wrong makes you look desperate and stupid. Even at 5 million it's double forza horizon 3 sales. 😂

http://www.gamespot.com/art...

Liqu1d2626d ago

Lol at Xander using vgchartz when official numbers already exist.

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ShadowKnight2627d ago (Edited 2627d ago )

I wonder and curious if half of those sell numbers is from PC players. Probably not it's probably not selling to well on PC

Kiwi662627d ago

How can half the sales be from PC when only FH3 & Forza Apex are the only two from the whole series that are on Xb/PC

TheHorseTamer2627d ago (Edited 2627d ago )

1/2 pn PC? Haha, that was a good laugh

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game4funz2627d ago

So what? Are you saying there's nothing to be happy about with expected sales?
On that note anyone can say that about any game.

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shiva12627d ago

Tell me one thing though.... Would getting 2.5 mil sales on ps4 for half arsed game is difficult? There is no racing game on ps4 that meets forza and the ps4 gamers would just bite irrespective of quality.... Just like NMS. Having 50mil sales but still not a single game is as big as overwatch, GTAV, FFXV..... Talk about that attach rate and quality. There was this talk about UC4 goty and now i hear nothing....

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jokerisalive2627d ago

A great series. Good to see it hit this milestone.

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2627d ago
aaronaton2627d ago

As a quick comparison, the Gran Tursimo series (as of 2015) has sold over 76 million. Lets say the average game is £30, even though GT5 cost me £50..
If my maths are corrects, the GT series has made at least £22.8 billion. GT sport can only add to this. Plus this is GBP and not Dollars.

OsafuneKatana2627d ago

GT will always be racing king. Forza is lil piece of shit in front of it. :)

danny8182627d ago

its alot younger than GT jackass

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XanderZane2627d ago

It wasn't king last gen. Don't cry. It's only a game.

LandCruiser2627d ago

@xanderzane

It was king and has always been. Don't cry because truth is bitter

ShadowKnight2627d ago (Edited 2627d ago )

Hilarious 😂😂😁

Raiden2627d ago

@Osafunekatan
I would love to see you race some of my Xbox friends, you call Forza a little piece of shit 💩, it would have been nice for you to prove your skill from your GT experience, I have witness my friends at our local game outlet crush so many other racers, all they say Forza made them better racers. I would love to see and upload the outcome on on this site or YOUTUBE. Let me if you are interested, GT skilled racer VS Forza skilled race epic showdown

Bruh2627d ago

Wish my mom would've let me come on the internet and interact with strangers when I was 10

ONESHOTV22627d ago

OsafuneKatana--- king of what arcade racers ? maybe it is but sure it's not being a sim

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Edito2627d ago

I agree with you that GT will always be the King it has a story while forza was created to meet or exceed GT Standards... but i can't agree with the Sh*tty part, while i prefer GT all the way i think Forza is a very good game...

IamTylerDurden12627d ago

Xander

GT absolutely was king last gen, are you joking? Did you hear about this game they call GT5? It did pretty well...

Last gen alone GT sold over 20m. That's nearly what Forza has sold in its entirety.

LexHazard792626d ago (Edited 2626d ago )

I've come to realize that theres no rational in people who only play on one console. Because that series might be all they know. To them its the best thing ever. Yet just from looking at reviews GT has been on a steady decline.

GT hasnt been King of racing since PS2..Lol. Forza is the King Slayer.
Their Motorsports series is great and well you already know about Horizon. Even PGR was better than GT.

Even Driveclub is better than GT!! Yes I said it.

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slate912627d ago

Good thing this article is about Forza and not GT, or you may have a valid comment.

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XanderZane2627d ago

If this was a GT Sport article, the trolls would still find a way to bring an XBox game into the article. lol!!

JasonKCK2627d ago

TitaniumRx you are the problem here

2627d ago
JasonKCK2626d ago

Ps4andPcRocks And you are the troll here

again part of the problem.

And apparently I have triggered you before

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343_Guilty_Spark2627d ago

Not only are you trolling but your "maths" are wrongs.

76 million * $50 = 3.8 billion

Using a more conservative number, say the average cost of the game over its lifetime was $30

76 million * $30 = 2.28 billion

Now troll elsewhere. This is about Forza not GT (which as a series has been out twice as long as Forza).

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343_Guilty_Spark2627d ago

@Basurabox

More trolling.

GT:

More time on the market
Much larger Sony base
Using average cost over lifetime $30 sales are 2.28 billion vs 1 billion.

I'd say sales are pretty even.

Lime1232627d ago

GT has beem out twice as Forza, still last mainline Gran Turismo game was Gran Turismo 6 and last mainline Forza game was Forza 6.

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rainslacker2627d ago

Why such a low average lifetime price? It's probably closer to $45, since half of a games sales tend to be within the first year...particularly games with recurring incremental releases. Within a year, most games of this nature typically are still priced around $30. Anything after that is probably inconsequential to the average.

Anyhow, at 76 million * $45 = 3.4 billion.

Kind of pointless to speculate though. MS provided full retail sales, so we'd only have to guess at the number of actual units sold to derive the average price, and then forget it anyways, because 1 billion is still one billion dollars.

Stogz2627d ago

Forza has what though, 9 releases? GT has like 7. How does the time on the market matter?

joshljr2627d ago

@Stogz

I think time on the market matters because you're more likely to skip an iteration if releases are frequent.

_-EDMIX-_2627d ago

How is he trolling? Yes, GT has a larger fan base clearly because it is the preferred game.

More time on the market is irrelevant have you forgotten that Gran Turismo 5 literally sold over 11 million units?

At the time of Gran Turismo 5 release it to literally out sold every single Forza game in existence combined!!!!!!

Is Medal of Honor outselling Call of Duty? Well that's older than Call of Duty right?

Seriously buddy get over it , GT is the preferred series and PD always does a good job.

LexHazard792626d ago (Edited 2626d ago )

@ edmix,

Lol...Forza(only Forza Horizon 3 wasnt and I dont count Apex) and GT are exclusives. So being the "preferred racer" is relative to what console you own. So if you own Playstation most likely Gran Turismo is the best. And Xbox, Forza. Not hard to understand...

And are you comparing Forza to Medal of Honor? Forza gets better reviews than GT and is relevant. Where Medal of Honor now...
We'll see at end of yr what racer is better. Forza 7 or GT Sports(Prolouge)..
Go ahead and press that button on the right.

thisismyaccount2626d ago (Edited 2626d ago )

GT launched 1998
19 years old with 6 main games + 1x PSP game and 5 "bigger paid demos called prologues"
76,000,000 x $30 = $2,280,000,000,000 (12 entries at 6.3mill. copies sold each)

Versus

Forza launched in 2005
soon 12 years old with 6 main games and 3x spin offs (total of 9 games).
22,500,000 x $30 = $675,000,000 (9 entries at 2.5mill. copies sold each)

Far from that $1bill. they claim. They either sold more copies or the avg. price (revenue) is higher than $30 per sold copy. At $30 they would have sold about 33mill. copies (< highly unlikely since 2015, to sell 13 mill. copies). So, yeah the avg. price hast to be higher than the $30 for each sold copy.

old comparison done in 2015 https://imgur.com/a/1ASyv

12x 2 = 19 ("which as a series has been out twice as long as Forza")

#YABADATMATH

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Raiden2626d ago

Look, who cares, MS/XBOX CONGRATULATIONS.
GT has been around longer, but has produced less, every year we get a new and improved FORZA either motorsport or horizon every year, this makes it very hard for GT to out match, because when GT improves it's take them 2yrs to improve as with Forza, well every year and there is improvements. But both games have there place, just enjoy it and don't be sad that your favourite game is not the headliner, just play 🎭 your game.

ChrisChambers2627d ago

With the technology available to you there's no way you should've inflated GT sales by $20 billion. If you're an adult you should be embarrassed. If you're still in school you need to pay attention in math class, maybe stay after school sometime and have your teacher show you how to use a calculator.

Yes GT has sold a lot of copies, but don't let fanboyism turn you into an idiot like the 21 people that have agreed with you so far

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Gazondaily2627d ago

Sick achievement. Many people doubted the numbers:
http://n4g.com/news/1974704...

But looks like those are some noice sale numbers indeed.

Well deserved. Such a sick racer. Was playing it this weekend and aaaah. Feel sorry for all those missing out 😍

christocolus2627d ago (Edited 2627d ago )

Lol @ the comments on that link

The Forza Horizon series got me and my friends back into racing games. FH3 is just so good. I can't wait to see what the studio does next. Hopefully It will be a day one purchase just like FH3. PG and T10 are super talented. Congrats to all involved with the development of this game.

rainslacker2627d ago

Apparently playground is opening a new satellite studio to make open world games. I do think FH3 was some of their best work, and a really good racer. We get to play it at work, and they have the nice wheel set ups and stuff and it gets a lot of my time when I have no actual work to do.

I'd imagine their core studio is still going to be working on F:H though.

Featuring_Dante2627d ago (Edited 2627d ago )

that last line, you're really asking for it.
better watch out, that console war neutrality might be blown now.
How can people objectively put forza above GT, when forza isn't even recognized by the FIA?

Gazondaily2627d ago

LMao asking for what? All racing fans should experience the brilliance of Horizon 3. It's such an epic game. Have you played it?

Aloren2627d ago

"How can people objectively put forza above GT, when forza isn't even recognized by the FIA?"

That's a silly question. Because they like it better ? Cause it's getting better reviews ? Because no matter what the game is, some people will base their opinion on their personal taste rather than on some sponsorship deals ? See, like some put PES above Fifa, how dare they have their own preference!

Featuring_Dante2626d ago (Edited 2626d ago )

seriously though, if you disregard the FIA, you just proved you're a casual scrub who knows nothing about cars.
@Aloren which is why i said *OBJECTIVELY*

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zerocarnage2627d ago (Edited 2627d ago )

I don't usually like forza games, because I don't usually enjoy race games, but must say after my gamble on horizon 3 I'm more than 100% happy.

I'm a blood n guts game kinda lover, so this was a nice change.

I think there's really only a couple of race games out that can compete with forza, project cars and gran turismo. Need for speed I thought on some games was going in the rite direction and don't get me wrong now and again it can pull out a surprise game, but it's not consistent enough like forza.

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3 Million People Play Forza Every Month. Are You One of Them?

Last week, when Microsoft announced the Forza Racing Championship, people were so hyped that they overlooked some interesting and quite amazing facts revealed, number wise, about the Forza online community. When it comes to numbers, people usually only look at sales. Microsoft has revealed the fact that more than 3 million virtual racers play one …

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Goldby2811d ago

every minute of the day, at least 70 people are playing, very impressive

christocolus2811d ago

“We have more than 11 million people who have played a Forza game on Xbox One, which creates a massive pool of data from which Drivatars have evolved. Players can expect more nuanced and surprising Drivatar behavior than ever before.”..........Ralph Fulton

Nice

PhilSpincer2811d ago

Not sure why you have disagrees. The date on that is June 11

ocelot072811d ago

I played Forza Apex on PC. Decent for a free to play game. Ill be getting Horizon 3 for PC most definitely.

star_lancer2811d ago

What about FH2 & Forza 6? There's plenty of Forza to play now while you wait for FH3.

ocelot072811d ago

Played Forza Horizon 2 when I had a Xbox. I no longer have a XB1 only a PS4/PC. But am happy I get to play the latest Forza titles starting with FH3.

--bienio--2811d ago

Same. I really enjoy forza apex on Pc, to be honest it's my first forza So yes aim definitely getting Horizon 3 day one.

BigGamersSmallTalk2811d ago

Heck yea! I own every Forza game. Already pre-ordered Horizon 3!

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