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Leak Spills Tidbits About Sony’s Next Killzone Game

Sony Computer Entertainment is recording a teaser for a future Killzone game, a source tells Siliconera. The upcoming title takes place after the events of Killzone 3.

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Ken224364d ago

All i ask for is.
1.KZ2 gameplay
2.KZ2 lobby matchmaking
3.Don't cater to the little 12 year olds.

KwietStorm_BLM4364d ago

Nothing more to see here. Keep it moving everyone.

pixelsword4364d ago (Edited 4364d ago )

LOL

Pretty much.

Except I wanna play as the heavy, I want the regular soldier back, and I want the regular soldier to exclusively be able to take cover for MP games.

sikbeta4364d ago

Hmmm... thought next in the franchise would be VitaZone :P

InactiveUser4364d ago

KZ2 (and 3) MP seemed to 'cater to the little 12 year olds' already, so I don't get your point. Turrets killing for you, air support killing for you, 1hit bodyshot sniper while being invisible, enemies shown as teammates, running around at 80mph, etc.

KZ2 matchmaking? Yea, because custom Ranked boosting lobbies are a good thing. /s

awesomeperson4364d ago (Edited 4364d ago )

@EEJLP

I don't agree the KZ2 caters to the little 12 year olds, while there are turrets and air support, these were easily combated.

Each class offered different advantages and disadvantages that had to be weighed up, and the sniper wasn't as huge of a deal in KZ2 and it was in KZ3 (that was a tad overpowered, especially when given an assault rifle).

I thought KZ2 was A LOT of fun, and the multiplayer generally had a steeper learning curve and was harder to truly get good at than many other multiplayer games at the time on the PS3.

KZ3 certainly felt like an easier learning curve, and was easier to master in general.

Kleptic4363d ago

EeJLP...

one of the toughest ribbons in the game was getting the 5 turret kills in a round or whatever...those things where worthless in KZ2...

KZ2 DEFINITELY had some balls, and went against the grain of most modern competitive multiplayer games...it did an incredible job of balancing team based tactics, while still allowing you to be very effective on your own...Where in CoD, you don't EVER need a team mate...and BF3 random team mates will often ruin the experience...KZ2 fell safely in the middle, something no other title has done this generation imo...it was straight forward with a limited hud, no flashing points every single time you did anything...no big old 'you killed XXXXXX' after every kill...It was a shooter that didn't cater to the ADHD crowd that plagues multiplayer games any more...and it was written off quickly because of that...

the boosting lobbies was a little lame, but that was an area that the game was behind in anyway... persistence was entirely lacking, you could hit max rank in just a few hours (they did patch in 3 extra ranks, but they were completely arbitrary)...so the handgun boosting lobbies, etc, didn't really accomplish anything but some trophies...

the sniper rifle, even being a OHK on everything...was still ok imo...no hip fire accuracy, no prone, and some pretty wonky aiming mechanics with it...didn't make snipers half the problem they are in other titles...even the big bad 'invisible' thing was limited to only when standing perfectly still, when not firing, and when someone hadn't centered you on screen to highlight your position...

KZ3...that sucked imo...as it turned back on everything that made kz2 great to many of us...and i didn't even bother with it...

InactiveUser4363d ago (Edited 4363d ago )

"one of the toughest ribbons in the game was getting the 5 turret kills in a round or whatever...those things where worthless in KZ2"

It could be hard, depending where you put them, who you're playing, and how long the match is. But it's not too hard if you consider matches can be hours long. It could be 7? rounds in a match and up to 30 minutes each. Not too hard to get 5 in two-three and a half hours. Also not too hard if you have them near objectives the enemy will likely be distracted by. They also can also randomly headshot the shi out of people sometimes.

I agree with what you said about the points popping up all over the place wasn't a good addition in 3.

Overall I still don't consider either KZ good or competitive at all. Obviously some will master the gameplay over others, but that doesn't necessarily make them good. It just makes them better at being noobs than others. 1hit body shots do not equal good. Neither does the CPU [turrets & air support] killing, assisting kills, distracting, giving up your position, slowing enemies and wasting their ammo. Neither does being invisible or running around at 5-10x normal speed. Etc.

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fucadastates4364d ago

agree with ken22. but to play as the helgast would be +!

Regent_of_the_Mask4364d ago

KZ2 gameplay? No thanks. I'd rather have KZ3 gameplay as the controls didn't feel so stiff and the cover system was much more fluid.

TheFirstClassic4364d ago (Edited 4364d ago )

Killzone 3 had less input lag, which was good, but the guns felt less weighty and there seemed to be less difference in recoil. I agree on the cover system though.

Edit: @Frankfurt below, metacritic and my love of both Resistance and Killzone says otherwise.

Outside_ofthe_Box4364d ago

KZ3's controls were good as it eliminated the input lag, but other than that KZ2's gameplay was better.

I want KZ3's controls with KZ2's gunplay. That will be perfect imo.

k-dillinger4364d ago

@Regent_of_the_Mask

me and you both kz2 was damn near unplayable online with those controls if ya'll wanna play that go hop on kz2

RonRico4364d ago

they had to release a patch for KZ2 because of the controls. Loved that game but come on, the controles were kinda lacking.

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trenso14364d ago

beat me to the comment agree 100%!

cannon88004364d ago (Edited 4364d ago )

"Duty, Obedience, and Loyalty" are the three virtues of the Helghast Triad. Our source says, these lines were written for a woman, who has ties to a Helghan Autarch. We’re speculating here, but the speaker might be Aurarch Visari’s daughter. Our source wouldn’t comment if this is tied to the upcoming Killzone game for PlayStation Vita.

How do they know these things?

What kind of witchcraft is this?

NarooN4364d ago

I've known that since 2004. Talking with the dev team who used to post on the official forums since 2005, and reading the backstory on the website, you could learn a lot.

GraveLord4364d ago

If KZ3 catered to the 12-year olds, it would have sold more.

Outside_ofthe_Box4364d ago (Edited 4364d ago )

No. It did cater to 12-year olds. They just bought Call of Duty instead. Which is why there is no point in trying to cater to the CoD crowd. Just make your own game.

pixelsword4364d ago

@ outside_ofthe_box

You got that right:

Star Wars VI-IV was it's own movie

Episode I catered to the kids, which was like being raped by lobsters.

Episode II-III tried to catered to everyone, which is why it also could not stand with a movie twenty years older than itself.

CoD is the Jar-Jar of gaming.

RonRico4364d ago (Edited 4364d ago )

2 advanced for 12yr olds

Eyeco4364d ago (Edited 4364d ago )

im gonna ask for 3 things

1. FEATURES for god sake give us some content, Killzone 2-3 were just the complete barebones of FPS if your trying to compete with halo , BF and cod as the king of fps give the gamer a cd jam packed with FEATURES e.g. veichals in multiplayer, survival modes, more maps cinema mode, i know MW3 is an abortion of a game but damn it gives you your moneys worth .

2. A decent story , with good writing thats at least 8 hours Killzone 2-3 could be beat in one sitting, allot of people dont know about this but Killzone 1 actually had a pretty decent story and the campaign was pretty good to, with some excellent level design and it lasted a decent 8 hours with allot of replay value.

3. KZ2 looking back was a pretty great game the problems that i had with it , was it didnt know wether it was a tactical shooter or a lame cod arcade shooter, i think if guerilla games focused on a more tactical game it could really stand out among shooters especially with its hard sci-fi setting.
Killzone 3 went for the shallow cod arcade gameplay, in fact Killzone 3 just felt like a rip off from COD e.g. the stealth missions made me lool they just screamed COD 4

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Thatguy-3104364d ago

IMO they need better acting. Killzone 3 acting was disappointing IMO.

Slugg3r4364d ago

Voice acting was done by very good actors, atleast when it comes to bad guys. It is the writing that really needs improvement.

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showtimefolks4364d ago

you know killzone and resistance 2 were the only online fps i played and since than i have not played anything else. I would buy KZ4 day on but they don't need to cater to COD fans and be loyal to your KZ fans who supported KZ2 and KZ3

MrMister4364d ago

Do we need another 1st person shooter? I own Killzone already, but do we need a 4th one this soon? I'm not sick of action games, i'm just sick of 1st person. I own so many FPS's that the thought of buying another one makes me sick. I wish they would use the talent at Guerilla to make a new IP with a different way of playing.

Games4M - Rob4364d ago

I need a fourth one to try and help me get over how shit the 3rd one was.

Gamer30004364d ago

Sh1t!! sony can't you keep a secret till E3 ??!!
anyway can't wait for KZ4

DeadlyFire4364d ago

Noone can keep a big secret. Someone hears it and runs instantly to the internet.

ritsuka6664364d ago (Edited 4364d ago )

Yeha, Killzone 3 is one bigest disapointg compared Killzone 2 =/

tigertron4364d ago

Basically, KZ2 for the Vita.

Killzone 2 is by far the best in the series in terms of gameplay, multiplayer, graphics. Everything really, except mechs.

KwietStorm_BLM4363d ago

Why is it that I agreed with you, but I get all the disagrees..

Nes_Daze4360d ago

Yes, don't cater to the Call of duty fans...please.

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OllieBoy4364d ago

It's probably the Vita version, set to be shown at E3.

LOL_WUT4364d ago

This pretty much its going to be a Killzone game for the Vita, KZ4 should be a PS4 title.

F7U124364d ago (Edited 4364d ago )

Hoping for KZ4 on the PS4 at 1080p with a solid 60FPS.

pixelsword4364d ago

Hoping for KZ4 on the PS3 at 1080p with a solid 60FPS.

STONEY44364d ago

Hoping for KZ4 on the PS2 at 1080p with a solid 60FPS.

DarkVegaShadow4364d ago

Hoping for KZ4 on the ps1 at 4k with a solid 120FPS

NewVegasTroop4364d ago

Hoping for KZ4 on the atari 2600 at 1080p with a solid 60FPS.

surely someone was going to ruin it sooner or later xD

NarooN4364d ago

Hoping for KZ4 on the Pocketstation at 1080p with a solid 60FPS.

(Yeah, I went there.)

Braid4364d ago

Hoping for KZ4 with its full glory on the friggin Xbox 360!

Hah, you can't get any more absurd than that. I win.

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F7U124364d ago

Nope I replied to the OP outside of the other replies so the line may continue. I break nothing!

DeadlyFire4364d ago

KZ4 next gen teaser like KILLZONE 2 next-gen teaser only more impressive than that. :P

My hope anyway. IF they do that though they will need to put BC in first few waves of PS4 since they just announced a few PS3 titles for next year.

neutralgamer194364d ago

Ken 22 i agree Kz2 was so much better in so many respects. Kz3 felt so arcady and generic. So much so that i probably played triple the time on mp on kz2, then i did on kz3.

Whitefeather4364d ago

Can never have enough Killzone.

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Killzone wasn’t a Halo killer, but a PS5 remake could come close

The first Killzone game never met lofty expectations of dethroning Xbox’s Halo, but if any game needs a PS5 remake, this is the one.

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Vits91d ago

I like Halo, but I don't think there is any need for a 'Halo Killer' at this point. If anything, the franchise is slowly undermining itself by making some of the dumbest mistakes possible. Infinite has finally reached a good point in terms of multiplayer, but it took an extra 2 years to get there. Meanwhile, the single-player experience is fine but rather mediocre when compared to the franchise peak.

That said, I would like to see the Killzone franchise back, if anything, to offer more variety to the PS5 exclusive catalog.

_SilverHawk_91d ago

sony should remaster all killzone games and bring back killzone multiplayer that is very similar to the style of killzone 2 multiplayer.

Cacabunga90d ago

Halo killed itself after Halo Reach.
Killzone went a little down in quality with SF on PS4 and I wish they kept them coming..

InUrFoxHole91d ago

??? Halo is doing great right now. I wouldn't mind seeing a kz2 mp rebirth

Cacabunga90d ago

Spawn grenade tactician class my favorite..

darthv7291d ago

I'd love a killzone trilogy, fully remastered on a single disc like they did with Uncharted. Maybe they could make it the full killzone saga including PSP and Vita games converted to console.

REDGUM91d ago

Yes please. Put me down for a copy, price irrelevant too. Loved allow those games in the franchise :)

Chocoburger91d ago

I've never liked the idea of a 'franchise killer', why can't both thrive, without one killing off the other? Its such a childish mentality.

That being said, if there ever was a true 'Halo killer', then it would have to be 343 Studios, and the Xbox division. They're doing a fine job killing off their own IP, apparently.

Profchaos91d ago

Cause console wars mostly drove the halo v killzone thing

Eonjay91d ago

And media co.panies like IGN drove the console wars for clicks.

Profchaos90d ago

@eonjay
Yeah and I still cringe super hard when IGN runs their next gen console watch segment 3 years into the consoles lifecycle we are approaching midgen likely by December and they are out there milking clicks like it's mid 2020 and were starved for information

ModsDoBetter91d ago

Halo doesn't need to be killed, they've done that themselves. It's a shell of its former self.

Zeref91d ago

And yet Halo is still here. Where is Killzone? Resistance? Haze? All the supposed "Halo Killers" are dead franchises 😂

DarXyde91d ago (Edited 91d ago )

"Dead" really isn't the right word for any of these franchises (except Haze). You're also calling these games dead for different reasons. oIMyersIo is saying a Halo is dead because it is not what it used to be and is saying it has gotten much worse. You are saying those franchises faded into obscurity and no one cares. I also find it funny that your first reaction is to name PlayStation franchises because you perceived their comment as a slight against Xbox. I hope you're at the very least part of their ambassador program...

Anyone that sees Killzone as dead is pretty myopic. A decade since their last Killzone, but they themselves have developed two full games since Shadow Fall. That's not many in context at all.

Resistance is a bit less clear. Insomniac is pretty tied up at the moment. Including all of their games on all platforms and ignoring Spider-Man Remastered, we're looking at 23 games since Resistance 3. That's alarmingly prolific and still no R4. My guess? In the modern era, a new Resistance is probably going to have to be a live service and Insomniac is not that studio.

I don't think it's dead though. Not at all.

Gaming4Life198191d ago

Halo infinite is still the best exclusive fps and is doing great but you think it's dead lol. Its also one of the top fps games out here so i dont get where your coming from. Just because you don't play it does not mean it's dead or dying.

I liked killzone 1 & 2 and I think Sony should bring it back along with resistance cause they are in need of more variety in their first party lineup. Sony & MS are sitting on some great franchises that need a revival.

ModsDoBetter90d ago

"Just because you don't play it"

And there your argument was derailed.
Through making such an assumption, you have only served to show that your response is that of a fanboy and any criticism of your beloved franchises is met with speculation in order to downplay any counter argument.

As a matter of fact, as many in team blue on this site will tell you, I often do defend Xbox just as much as I defend PS, so for you to make such a silly comment is laughable.

I have played plenty of Halo: Infinite - on Series S, Series X and PC via Steam. To say the game comes anywhere near the franchise greats such as Combat Evolved and Halo 2 is delusional. The franchise is a shell of its former self and that is a FACT.

It absolutely isn't the best fps exclusive but at this point we're arguing over preferences which is pointlessly subjective.

Where I do agree is that a Resistance comeback would be great for Sony.

DrDoomer91d ago

I'd take Killzone and Resistance over Halo any day.

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A Live Service Approach Could Allow a New Killzone Game To Thrive

The Killzone series has been dormant since Shadow Fall, but a live service style for its multiplayer might just be exactly what it needs to succeed.

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TheExecutioner506d ago

It will fail as a live service. An attractive reboot is required. Sony needs a strong first party FPS.

TheEnigma313506d ago (Edited 506d ago )

They don't need a first party fps. Outside of Cod, they aren't as popular as they were last gen and definitely not as popular as they were in the PS3/360 era.

Pedantic91506d ago

COD is not the be-all and end-all of FPS games. Sony will only have it for a couple of years as the deal is more or less set in stone. Sony needs to work on bringing back Resistance/Killzone/MAG. They're sitting on so many IPs and yet they much prefer to chase the cinematic crowd or be an overall nuisance when things are changing. What did they expect when they play the money game against a much more wealthier company to can outpsend you when neccessary.

The "Trying to turn us into another Nintendo" should have been seen as compliment or as another way to thrive.

shinoff2183506d ago

Pedantic91

Playing the money game do you mean the advertising rights to cod

Those Same rights ms bought first back during the 360. Ms has had 20 years to get it together and they haven't. All I have to say is who's next ms couldn't handle it even worse since they had more money then nin and Sony. They closed and or ruined so many studios. What is their issue

Rhezin506d ago

Agreed. That’s all they need now. A new Killzone/Resistance game would be perfect.

Mr_cheese506d ago

I'd love both! Especially miss Resistance. So many memories

1Victor505d ago

I would prefer a hawk game like a sequel/ reboot of Starhawk hell I’ll even take a remastered Warhawk or Starhawk with higher players numbers, 64 would be awesome

Crows90506d ago

I think they could seriously improve the fps genre in ways they dont even know.
Imagine those set peice moments that theyre making in 3rd person translated and designed for 1st person.

I think they could compete at a certain extent with CoD. Ive wanted another killzone and resistance long before the activ bliizard deal came around. Not to compete with CoD but to give great single player fps campaigns...this is sorely lacking right now and I hope Sonys sees it eventually.

Vengeance1138506d ago

Can't do any worse than Halo as a live service so yes please, atleast try it.

kingnick505d ago

Best careful what you wish for.

Overwatch 2 is another bad live service game.

Once a developer and publisher have burnt most of the goodwill of their playerbase an entire franchise can be destroyed.

Vengeance1138505d ago

Overwatch 2 despite the rough launch and bugs is hugely successful and crazy popular.
Not to mention Killzone is already dead so if a live service fails it what? Goes back to doing what it is now, being dead. Thus Killzone has absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Outside_ofthe_Box506d ago

Hell no.

Just remake KZ2 keep gameplay the same and it'll thrive, I'm sure of it.

JEECE506d ago

No it won't because if they just released a real multiplayer game and not a live service in 2022/2023 people would be whining two weeks after launch that the game was abandoned and "sent out to die."

People hate the terms "Live Service" and "Games as a Service," but in reality that's the only thing people want to play.

shinoff2183506d ago

Not at all. I currently play no live service games. I did try fallout 76. It became annoying when they wanted money for more storage. I probably played about 15 hours or so.

JEECE506d ago

@shinoff2183

I appreciate that individuals here and there don't, but if you look at how people react to multiplayer games now, it's clear that people want a live service, even if they don't want the publisher to call it that.

Look at Battlefield V. Tha game had maps released here and there for about a year and half, which is actually pretty typical for a Battlefield game (only 4 got map packs later in it's life cycle). Yet the entire narrative around that game now is that the devs abandoned it.

Or look at Red Dead Online. People talk about that game being "dead," and the community even had a funeral. Which you'd think would mean that the servers were down (that's what it used to mean), but it actually just meant the game was just being maintained in a status quo, not as a live service.

Heck, people's complaints about Halo are even more evidence. People used to play Halo multiplayer to have fun. Now people can't see the point in playing the game if there aren't new skins to earn.

SurgicalMenace506d ago

Exactly!! If you don't believe what's being said, I dare you to explore the most successful ongoing games. It seems like people just want everything to stay the same with no progression. I may not play, Destiny, Fortnite, FF14, League, Genshin or the like but I can see the opportunity they add to the industry.

--Onilink--506d ago

Honestly, people dont even understand what live service is at this point. They just hate the term.

What exactly would an FPS in 2022 that is NOT live service be?
No new maps released consistently
No new guns
Maybe a map pack at some point that completely breaks the player base/matchmaking
No constant balance / tuning updates

Thats what a live service FPS is at the end of the day. Anything else like battle passes or microtransactions are the funding methods

badz149506d ago

@JEECE

Halo Infinite MP was released as a live service game, though. it's starved off contents unlike other live service games thus the backlash is justified imo.

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masterfox506d ago

oh hell no!!!!, look at Halo it sure is thriving lol, Killzone only needs a good story, heck you could even leave the graphics visual style of Shadowfall cause up to this day still looks freaking amazing.

Profchaos506d ago

It was my favourite in the franchise to date because it was a departure from the drab and dreary original colour profile the city keeps were still some of the best you'll see on ps4 to this day

kingnick505d ago

343i can't develop their own games in their own right and outsource when possible. I doubt Guerrilla Games would make the same mistakes but I don't see Killzone being a live service game adding much to anything other then Sony's bottom line.

TheEnigma313506d ago

Shadowfall was such a drop off from KZ 2/3. I wish they could remake KZ2; with the weight feel also.

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The Shelving Of Killzone Leaves a Hole In PlayStations First Party

With the future of Killzone in question, it leaves a hole that might not be easily filled in PlayStation's first party line up.

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Knightofelemia1183d ago (Edited 1183d ago )

Same goes with Resistance another great title that has been shelved.

_SilverHawk_1183d ago

I don't think these games are gone. Also insomniac has been teasing resistance for over a year so I expect to hear about that franchise soon or sometime this year

Vengeance11381182d ago

*Had been shelved, though most likely not anymore with all the Insomniac teasing.

phoenixwing1182d ago

If they make a new Resistance game it better not be a cod clone.

Vengeance11381182d ago

Why would it be a Cod clone? A new Resistance would be a.. Resistance clone with Resistance style gameplay. This is Insomniac, they don't do ripoffs.

solideagle1182d ago

lol Insomniac don't do ripoff and Spiderman is copy/paste of batman even some of the side quests. I have not played it myself but my friend was saying its shameless how much copy/paste insomniac has done from batman games.

Vengeance11381182d ago

Must have missed the sections in Batman Arkham where hes web swinging from area to area or juggling a whole group of enemies in the air at once.

P_Bomb1182d ago (Edited 1182d ago )

“... my friend was saying its shameless how much copy/paste insomniac has done from batman games.”

He wasn’t around for Spider-man on PS2 I take it? Parker was juggling back when Bruce was still struggling with Dark Tomorrow.

2003 https://www.metacritic.com/...
2004 https://www.metacritic.com/...
2005 https://www.metacritic.com/...

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aaronaton1182d ago (Edited 1182d ago )

The lack of 1st party multiplayer titles is shocking, i was bleak even on PS4 compared to PS3:

Killzone 2,3
Warhawk, Starhawk
Socom Confrontation and Socom 4
Motorstorm 1,2
MAG
Twisted Metal
Resistance 1,2
MGO2
TLOU (multiplayer)
Uncharted 2,3 (multiplayer)

The list goes on and on.
I get that they are great at 1st party single player experiences, but the appeared abandonment of multiplayer enabled titles (or even news of, for that matter) is pretty miserable.

JEECE1182d ago

Unfortunately Sony would make good multiplayer titles, but people on Playstation would largely ignore them in favor of more generic third party stuff, so as much as I miss their output, I can't blame them for focusing on games people actually buy.

Sophisticated_Chap1182d ago (Edited 1182d ago )

This is exactly why I dropped off Playstation after watching the PS4 launch. Almost all of those games were completely non-existent on PS4, with the exception of a very mediocre Killzone game, and a God of War game, Uncharted game and TLOU2 game that came out towards the end of the PS4 generation.

Last gen I switched to Xbox for a different experience since Playstation started charging for online, which leveled the playing field with Xbox Live, and didn't have any of the games I liked (most of which are in your list). For all of Xbox's faults, I was able to experience the 360 generation games through backwards compatibility, plus I was able to play the newer gears games and Halo games, which were a lot of fun. Titanfall was pretty awesome in the early Xbox One days also.

SmokinAces1182d ago

No it doesn't leave a hole it makes room for something else. Cool doom and gloom article though.

RyanShutup1182d ago

Resistance and KZ need a revival.

Silly gameAr1182d ago

They can't work on new games and try new things? I doubt Killzone is gone forever, but I'd rather they work on new potential franchises, and when they do go back to Killzone, they'll have fresh, new ideas.

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