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Square Enix compares Wii, Xbox 360 and PS3; talks DLC, sequels and future

In an interview with CNET Japan, Square Enix president Youichi Wada talked about his company's future strategy and the state of the game industry, saying all segments (software, hardware as well as the arcade business) are performing very well.

Asked about the three new consoles, Wada explained, "The Wii is the antithesis of the Xbox 360. (Xbox 360) is strictly for hardcore gamers. The attachment rate for the Xbox 360 is much higher than for the Wii. People who buy the 360 really like games... I think the current trend is that most people aren't buying the Wii as a game machine, but as a toy... It seems that Sony isn't sure what it wants to do. Is it making high-end electronics or a game console for gamers? I want them to clearly define their console."

Wada disputed his interviewer's suggestion that Square Enix had recently released a lot of sequels and remakes, "It's not that we are not investing in new franchises. It's necessary to do new games, franchises and remakes. With remakes, we're trying to expand the outlook of that world. If you look at our profits, franchises are 60 percent of our business, while new IPs are 40 percent. There's a misconception that we rely only on Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, while these titles only make half of our business. It's just that people keep asking for new installments."

In addition, Wada also talks about downloadable content, the future of the retail business, Square Enix's position in the game center business, Taito (a Japanese arcade developer owned by Square Enix), and the company's future.

[ Notes: The original source is Japanese. See RPGFans.com and alternative sources for different English summaries. Translated quotes are lifted from Kotaku. ]

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hardmetal5979d ago

He said: "It seems that Sony isn't sure what it wants to do. Is it making high-end electronics or a game console for gamers? I want them to clearly define their console."

I say: It's both!

achira5979d ago

i think the same way. it can only be positive, if it is both.

WilliamRLBaker5979d ago

so....if they concentrate only on a high end electronic device *which its not* then a game machine falls by the way side....if they concentrate soley on a game machine then the (laugh) high end electronic device falls by the way side...

dhammalama5979d ago (Edited 5979d ago )

I agree with you on that. I disagree, however, that it is not a high end electronic device? How is it not?
- It has an advanced optical drive
- a cutting edge processor
- wireless connectivity
- full hdmi and 7.1 audio out
----------------- gigabit internet connectivity
----------------- a harddrive
----------------- and connectivity for virtually all types of memory cards and external storage.

So, uh, where is it that it falls short of being a high end device? Eh, willyboy?

Edit - I think it could be classified as a high end electronic gaming device with extensive multimedia features.

Bladestar5979d ago

It can only be good for Playstation fans... but not for 3rd party developers... you missed the entire point he was trying to make...
"The attachment rate for the Xbox 360 is much higher than for the Wii. People who buy the 360 really like games"... do you think 3rd party developers care or benefit from Sony trying to make a system that can do it all... or from Sony blu-ray business of selling movies? 3rd party developers making games only care and should care about how well their games sell... And when they don't let his comments confused you... the fact that he mentioned software attach rate the wii and the PS3 on the same paragraph is a fact that they are paying close attention to the software attach rate.... also, when he says, "(Xbox 360) is strictly for hardcore gamers."... Square for the most part only make hardcore games... what do you think Final Fantasy is? a casual game?

Also, don't think for a second that if Square jumps in... japan will not be forced to do the same... The PS3 life depends on 2 3rd party companies; and this is one of them.

Cyrus3655979d ago (Edited 5979d ago )

Yeah I'm suring there looking at attach Rate, but FF series usually sells the best in Japan, and whether you want to admit it or not. It won't come out on 360, cause frankly 500 K Total 360 sold in 2 years is not enough. Even if you think 360 will sell another 250 K in another year before the release of FFXIII. The only way this could ever happen, Msoft Cuts a HUGE check.

Hell I'm sure they are (Square-Enix) hoping that FFXIII or Versus, etc. sell in 1 week atleast 500K, considering PS3 version of Dragon Warrior 6 sold about 175 K in 1 week, and PES Sold in japan in 1 week about 150 K, and we all know FF series has a bigger following and demand.

There more likly to jump to Wii than they will on 360, if anything. But your right there looking at how well recent "Hot games" are selling on PS3 vs. IE how well Hot Shot Golf 5 sold in it's first week and to date, PES, etc. which has sold just as well as Mario Galaxy for exame, Yet Wii has 3 x the base units. And obviously has sold better than anything on 360 in japan.

Bombomb5974d ago (Edited 5974d ago )

has confused and Split the market, It has a game console competiting with the other markets it competes in.

-If you can get a PS3 why bye a Sony Blu-ray player?

-This leads to NON, I repeat NON gamer s buying the PS3 for other purposes.

-Then leads to the user-base being skewed and you wander why games do not sell well or have not.

-I bet you 20% of PS3 owners don't play much games. I have seen so many no gamers recommend the PS3 just for movies, it's insane.

Now if you buy a Wii or 360, while the 360 can do DVD movies you know it's games first then anything Extra MS throws at ya, Divx and such.

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Prismo_Fillusion5979d ago (Edited 5979d ago )

From the interview, it seems as if he's saying that if the path each system is taking doesn't change...they'll start to develop much more for the 360 and much less for the other systems.

The flaw with that is that I think many of the "hardcore" 360 owners aren't into JRPGs nearly as much as the "hardcore" PS3 owners. (hardcore in quotes, because I think the term is overused and meaningless in most cases)

Also, I'm sure the PS3 will sell many many more units by the time the SE games start coming out on the system. And hopefully Wii owners support SE by buying the new FF:CC game (I really think they made it just to test the Wii waters).

ceedubya95979d ago

Its all about the name. You stick an unproven RPG on the 360 or any platform for that matter, and yeah, they probably won't sell well. But if you stick a Final Fantasy out there, then people start looking. JRPGs aren't guaranteed to sell by the truck load. But Square-Enix is a well known name in the RPG world amongst hardcore gamers. You have to remember, there were actually people out there that had original xboxes that also had PS2s. So to say Xbox players aren't into JRPGs as much is a bold assumption. It could just be that in the past, there wasn't much quality in that area to choose from (if any).

PS3 Limps on and on5979d ago (Edited 5979d ago )

I think this was true before. But now Sony it getting their game on.

I look around and I see Warhawk expansion coming for PS3 in December, I see Unreal Tournamnent III bringing some seriously online play for PS3 in December.

Prices are getting better. I say the PS3 is a gaming machine. The PS3 knows what it wants to be now and 2008 will further prove it.

Are you gonna hold it against PS3 because it allows people to have high defintion playback? It it a high Defintion console, to have the best experience, HDTV is recommended.

I'm sorry but PS3 is headed in the right direction now. In a way they were almost lucky that they fell off their horse so early with horrible sales. Got them grounded back to reality.

ruibing5974d ago

To think a week ago, your attitude was like this towards the PS3.

gamesblow5979d ago

this is very old... He said the same thing back in Sep, right before TGS... so, either he's on repeat or this is old. Take your pick.

PS3 Limps on and on5979d ago

I've heard the exact same thing before. It's either an old interview or this dude feels really strongly about this and says it all the time.

Either way I think PS3 got the message.

ruibing5979d ago

He wants Square Enix as one of the top 3, it will be difficult with JRPG. I mean I love them to death, but friends of mine who are into DnD and western RPGs don't think as highly of them for some reason. They've tried to make shooters before with Dirge of Cerberus and it didn't play out so well.

I think they should concentrate on quality instead of a goal like this, or they'll soon forget where their roots are. I really will curse the day when they made a western RPG.

goldenxbox5979d ago

Japanese RPGs have effemenine males all the time, and weird schoolgirl ridden plots !!!

Blue Dragon was the best original JRPG I've played in a while with a story to match !!!!!

Western RPGs are still preferred much more, especially Fable !!!

Fable destroys Final Fantasy and kicks it twice over !!!!!!

You can do everything in Fable, you can run around down a linear path with guys who have leather fetish in Final Fantasy !!!

Your friends are smart people, they see the superiority of WRPG !!!!

That is the western based format, with the most WRPGs of all rather than a Japanese system crowded with JRPG !!!!!

And I still love Blue Dragon, but love my Sacred 2 even more !!!!!

power of Green 5979d ago (Edited 5979d ago )

Social gaming is key" its just not hardcore gamers its the world arcade scene thats very popular with harcore and casual social gamers alike(Lots of hybrid AAA's don't hurt either).

Square Enix needs games that are somewhat grounded(western taste) and they need to show the West they want to please us instead of making half assed attempts for the west. Support Western markets even on western hardware thats the first step I'v read something like this before they wan't to expand.

Their Japanese arrogance is greater than their innovation(no ones going to buy games on pedigree and legacy anymore).

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10 Weirdest Video Games of All Time

Plenty of unforgettable games have completely messed up their players throughout the years, all the way back from the PS1 days to the dark recesses of the modern internet.

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JonTheGod10h ago

Why are the Katamari games not on the list??

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70 percent of devs unsure of live-service games sustainability

With so many games fighting for players' attention and interest losing out over time, time sink games are at risk of eventually losing steam.

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thorstein1d 6h ago

It was worrisome to begin with.

It's a niche genre with only a handful of hits that can stand the test of time.

Cacabunga9h ago

I like the sound of that!! I will for sure never support these gaas games.
Sony must be shocked at gamer's reaction, making them cancel a few of these and hopefully go back to the good heavy hitters they had us used to..
now bring on that PSPro reveal and show us some SP 1st party awesomeness.

CrimsonWing691d 5h ago

What’s to be unsure of!? Look at the ratio of success to failure!

DarXyde12h ago

It's pretty ridiculous.

Imagine having a breadth of data at your disposal to see the statistically low success rate of these games, only to be laser focused on the exceptional case studies.

shinoff21831d 4h ago

Yes. Stop all the live service bs.

jznrpg1d 4h ago

Only a few will catch on. You need a perfect storm to be successful in GaaS and a bit of luck on top of that. But a potential cash cow will keep them trying and some will go out of business because of it.

MIDGETonSTILTS171d 4h ago

Helldivers 2 manages just fine…

Keep production costs low… don’t just make custscenes until the mechanics and enemies are perfected first.

Make so much content that you can drip extra content for years, and the game already feels complete without them.

Most importantly: make weapons, enemies, levels, and mechanics that will stand the test of 1000 hours. This might require more devs embracing procedurally generated leveled, which I think separates Helldivers 2 from Destiny’s repetitiveness.

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The Battle Pass Is The Worst Thing To Happen To Modern Gaming

Nameer from eXputer: "Some exceptions aside, I don't think the battle pass is a net positive for gaming with how they're implemented in most live service titles."

got_dam1d 8h ago

Battle passes AND meta gaming both.

DivineHand1251d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

I like the way Helldivers 2 does battle passes. It allows you to make purchases on each level of the battle pass and gives you the option of choosing which item to unlock first. The more purchases you make using medals the further you progress. There is no timer and you can earn medals towards purchasing stuff via personal orders and Major orders.

I haven't played much live service games that have battle passes but I remember some games that have battle passes where you progress through it linearly using an exp system. What makes it really bad is that the battle pass will have like 50 or more levels with the cooler stuff being closer to the end. They also have an in-game shop that sells exp boosters so you can reach the end of the pass before it refreshes. Everyone ilse will have to grind their way through.

lucian2291d 5h ago

battle pass in fortnite is perfect; buy one and it buys the rest for every other season as it gives you more money than the first cost. so 8.50 and season ends with you getting 13.00, it pays for the next and you have some pocket change to save up for cash shop. All of which is optional