Does No One Remember These Super Smash Clones?

Leviathyn.com's Ron Hoffecker talks about the comments being made about the just unveiled PlayStation All-Stars calling it a rip-off. This isn't the first Super Smash-like game to release over the years. This sort of game is something that fans clamor for. Here's a look at some of the other "rip-offs".

[Abash]

The biggest reason people are hating on PlayStation All Stars is because they know it has a big chance to be great and successful

[mobhit]

They're running scared. If Sony plays their cards right, the game will be a huge hit.

[Awesome_Gamer]

Nintendo fans don't hate sony believe me, its the casual gamers/Xbots that hate sony because they don't get to play this amazing we have

[pandaboy]

I really hope sony plays their cards right, but they have a history over the past 5 years to do just the opposite. If anyone can screw an idea like this up, it's sony unfortunately.

[MmaFan-Qc]

With all this noise I can't help wondering if some people feel threatened.

It's not like Nintendo originated all the concepts within Smash Brothers by themselves, in 1999 alone you also had Rakugaki Showtime and Powerstone released.

...and frankly I think some competition will force Nintendo to work a bit harder on the next SSB

btw, just because a game isn't original doesn't mean it's a complete write-off. I mean, Crash Team Racing copied a lot of elements from Mario Kart. But here's the thing: it's a really good racing game. It's fast-paced, there's some good track designs, the weapons are balanced: it's probably one the best racing games I've played. In comparison Mario Kart 64 comes across as a bit weak, or so I feel. Okay, yes, we should strive for originality, but innovation and quality are not automatically synonymous. A good idea may be executed poorly and if someone is going to try something else with that idea, why shouldn't they? Maybe this game will bring something new. Maybe it won't. Maybe it'll be an enjoyable experience, maybe even BETTER... and is that really so bad?

Finally, I'm getting pretty tired of people claiming Sony are totally unoriginal. For all their strengths, Nintendo launched the 3DS with a range of games that were almost entirely sequels. The games we're getting excited for from Nintendo are both Mario games. They'll be fun and interesting, but it's still a Mario game. Sony launched the Vita with Uncharted, yes, but we also had Escape Plan and Gravity Daze. Not to mention the fact we've had the likes of Vib-Ribbon, Patapon, Flower, Journey and LittleBigPlanet, Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, Demon's Souls Heavy Rain, God of War.... all have been published by Sony or created by Sony's internal development teams

they created a lot of new stuff, ...if you care to look for it and not just arbitrarily designate it as ripoff bastards. Meanwhile others still surf on their old copy & paste bad habit....but i know...i shouldnt say that, it may offend some peoples.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

In all honesty I think that is the case. PSA Battle Royale could be as big as GT within its 2nd to 3rd iteration into the series and apparently people appear to feel threatened by this. I have NEVER seen so much hate for a game before as soon as it was revealed... And it appears that it is 360 fanboys that are most upset or is calling sony out for copying nintendo. I think it's because they are afriad that Sony might actually have another game that may sell like hotcakes so their "sony exclusives don't sell" punchline is looking more and more foolish to say now...

At first glance it does look like a SSB rip-off, but so what? First off we don't know every detail about the game yet. There could a lot of things that isn't present in SSB that is in this game.

And even if it is a SSB rip off, so what? SSB is a good game and fans have been asking for a game like SSB that featured Sony characters for a long time. Why is it all of a sudden wrong? If anything people shouldn't be blaming Sony, but should be blaming fans for asking for it. You wanted a SSB game that featured Sony characters, you got it, if you don't like it then that's why you should be careful for what you wish for.

People should just be excited, wait for more gameplay and roster details to come out.

[DasBunker]

article forgot rag doll kung fu

[Larry L]

Good post OutsideoftheBox. I agree with you. In fact, if this game is good....who knows......maybe next gen we'll see one of the most amazing cross-overs ever. Super Smash Bros. VS PlayStation All-Stars : The Brawl for it All. LOL

[MaxXAttaxX]

Using the logic that All-Stars Battle Royale is a "clone", then every single fighting game after SFII is a clone.
Only difference is SSB didn't start it.

I don't understand this mentality. But a genre can't evolve if only one developer is allowed to do it.

The game has been made. There's nothing these fanboys can do except whine now.

[Arnon]

You guys really need to shut up and just wait. It's an interesting concept and damn will it be cool if it turns out to be good, but what with the track record of all of these "AAA exclusives", I'm not going to hold my breath.

Don't set yourself up for disappointment. Most of these games are utter garbage, whether it's developed by Sony or not. Superbot Entertainment doesn't exactly have a track record. In fact, isn't this their first game?

[sikbeta]

You people shouldn't care about the success of the game or not, I care about the game being Fun and as I saw in GTTV, PlayStation Battle Royale is F**ing Awesome!

[mr_badhand]

I think its only the Sony fans that are insecure and making a bigger deal than it really is.

[N4g_null]

Weird all I see is a bunch of Sony fans fighting imaginary hate? Infact I know no one who likes nintendo checking for this game, why? Think about it... They don't like Sony characters. So there is no hate only in deference.

The only way it will get hate is if it is over hyped and it's not fun. Sony falls short on fun a lot. Heck I didn't even like smash bro till the wii version. I'm a old school sf virtual fighter fan so if you don't see the difference game play wise then you wouldn't understand.

Yeah but a key componet to these games are that people have to love the characters and they must be fun in some manner to use and the game must require skill. Other wise expect mod nation like numbers instead of mariokart or smash bro numbers. Those games are ruthless and fun. Sony better show the damn ps4 at E3 no one cares about clones unless they are like power stone.

[tokugawa]

just lol @ the defense force fighting this made up hate. yeah, i can just see all these "other" non sony fans running scared lmao!!!!

if everyone really gave a shit about the ps3 and its AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAA exclusives, they would just by a ps3

having a ps3 is not like being part of the masons, or owning a ferrari. they are cheap and affordable. time to grow up

[MaxXAttaxX]

Bitterness oozes from your comments. Try not to be so obvious next time.
___

@scissor_runner, @tokugawa

The comments you see above are responses to the article and on topic. There's plenty of hate outside of N4G as well.
Don't just assume.

[mobhit]

tokugawa - You're extremely bitter. I can just imagine your tears from my computer. You know, people *are* buying PS3's, otherwise the PS3 wouldn't be closing the gap. That shows that people actually give a sh*t about the PS3.

Maybe you should take your own advice and grow up.

scissor-runner: What imaginary hate? We already have fanboys denouncing the game already when we don't know much about it. The saddest thing is that it's being compared to SSB when there were games that came out before SSB's time.

Before, it was 'The PS3 has no games'. Now, it's 'Wah, wah, the PS3 has games!!1'

[SilentNegotiator]

Same genre and mixing characters = automatic "clone"

/s

[A7XEric]

Or maybe it's because we hold Sony to higher standards than all these no name developers putting out Smash clones. We expect Sony to maybe be inspired by Smash, but innovate on the formula and not outright copy it.

[TekoIie]

You sure it's not because it's exclusive??? Won't be buying this game personally due next gen consoles rumoured to release soon. Would rather save my money for one of those and not buy games on release date will help.. Not even getting halo 4 either, just thought I'd throw that in before someone shouts fanboy ; )

[KwietStorm_BLM]

I tbought it was just because its from Sony.

[Xof]

Sony has a long and storied history of taking great ideas and... ruining them.

But, yeah, most of the hate comes from the fact that it's on Sony's console--that, from a gamer's perspective, is blowing the competition out of the water now and has been doing so for... quite a while.

Just think back to when the 360 was coming out and you saw all that hate directed at, say, Tales of Vesperia and Losy Odyssey. Or the 3DS and Kid Icarus now. It's the same effect.

[sly-Famous]

@Xof "Sony has a long and storied history of taking great ideas and... ruining them."

Can you please elaborate, or is that just another opinion stated as fact?

[Wintersun616]

@Xof,

Strange, all I've been seeing is praises for Kid Icarus and I know I would love to play that game.

[SPAM-FRITTER-123]

lol@successful

it will be called GOTY by all and then only end up selling 200,000 copies.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

Name me a game that was called GOTY by all and ended up selling 200,000 copies.

Oh wait you can't. Troll harder FinancialGamer...uuh...I mean Spam-Fritter.

[morkendo23]

I personally welcome PLAYSTATION ALL STARS a change is good at times to get away from FPS,3rd party shooter, multiplayer games for awhile.

[Kingdom Come]

Patrick Morrallis, a journalist for GameTrailers.com won the Press Tournament an he and all his co-workers that played the game said (On Invisible Walls Podcast: http://www.gametrailers.com... ) it had nothing on Smash Bro's from what they played.

It's undeserving to hate on the game at this stage but it's fair to be very cautious not to get overly hyped as the game does look unbelievably similar to Smash Bros and apparently the characters, unlike Nintendo's, don't feel as though they blend together...

[Consoldtobots]

360 All Stars incoming in 1....2....3.....

[shuuwai]

and using kinect ....

the kids will go ape on this ...

Ka-me-ha-me-ha! oh wait that's another game...

[oNIXo]

With only Master Chief and Marcus Phoenix.

[mep69]

I don't see peoples problems, i liked SSB; this should be awesome :P

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

For Sony's sake I hope so, but I'm not interested. I much rather see each one in their own title.

[GamingPerson]

lol the game is not extra special. I have seen the gameplay.
People seem to go crazy because sony is doing it.

[Shnazzyone]

Actually I'm hating it because it's a continuation of sony's tradition of just coping what's successful for nintendo and showcases just how few memorable properties Sony has.

[LUCKYXS7LEVEN]

even if it's just a brawler please let there be a good story with the madness

[StrongMan]

The problem is the ones doing most of the talking are kids who just started gaming this gen and don't know any history of video games.

They think COD invented load outs.
They think Gears of War invented the cover system.
They think MS was the first to do controller-less gaming.
They think MS was the first to do online console gaming.

[jetlian]

the problem is this game isnt for most teens and adults its for kids!! All those reason you gave arent even related to this game in anyway.

Also people were expecting a fps,tps, action or some normal genre not a mash up. the announcement made it sound like it was gonna be big

[MaxXAttaxX]

Why don't you go back to your 360 articles.

No one was expecting an FPS or TPS. Get out of here with that.
The announcement IS pretty big. This is the type of mash up fighting game PlayStation fans have been wanting FOR YEARS(therefore not kids).

[KwietStorm_BLM]

I wasn't expecting anything other than what it is.

[impulse135]

wow u dont know what ur talking about do u...just read the comment below this guy knows what hes talking about

[jetlian]

nathan really like the whole last week when n4g was talking about a KZ4, IF3,UC4, RE4,HS2 etc.

noone was thinking of this as the major announcement.

kwietstorm then you wasnt expecting anything or you knew and you work for sony. lol that was a stupid thing to say.

[MaxXAttaxX]

DOESN'T MEAN they weren't expecting/wanting this game as well.

Your logic fails. I stand by what I said before.

[_DragonSlayer_]

yeah.. like stupid Mario..it's for kids \s

[tokugawa]

leave it out, sony could announce "dog poop scoop" where you go around picking up dog-shit, and it would be an earth shattering, hotly wanted, worlds most anticipated title according to n4g!

lol i jusy watched thevideo on IGN. good god, do fanboys see things differently to non fanboys?? the last fighting game i bought was tekken tag ps2... and after watching the video, i am certain it will still be the last fighting game

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

@jetlian

both fps and this was being expected. The Battle Royal isn't a new rumor anyways.

[L6RD7BLU3]

"They think MS was the first to do online console gaming."

I feel so sorry for kids who believe this, lol MS invented online gaming *HA! I laugh in your face*

[SephirothX21]

I don't think anyone with a brain (most people) actually think the xbox was the first console to do online but it did online pretty well. Halo 2 was a great experience online back in 2004 and compared to psn back then, xbox live was heaven.

Anyway, only kids care about who did what first. It's who does what best is what's important and I think Sony can really make an enjoyable game in a genre that very few games have had. Sometimes people are in the humour for something casual, competitive and fun and this game seems to tick those boxes.

[Consoldtobots]

MS invented a way to charge for system everyone else gave you for free.

[the worst]

controller-less gaming hahahahahahahahahaha
if u call that gaming hahahahahahahahaha
online console gaming i remember playing my dreamcast online b4 the xbox came out

[yewles1]

Yeah, don't forget the Saturn though, which had online play... THEEEEEN there was the X-BAND...

[NukaCola]

Man, I remember back in the day when my mom's best friend's kids had SEGA CHANNEL on their Genesis. Still to this day the best way to game. $50 a month for 50 games at a time you could play endlessly streamed from the console itself. Before Xbox or PlayStation, before Games on Demand, before OnLive or Steam. That was a concept my friends, that was pretty damn awesome.

[LUCKYXS7LEVEN]

true .
they said kinect was a revolution to hands free gameplay but the eyetoy did that way back before wii or kinect were created.
motion sensor will and forever be nintendo's creation since they started with that idea with the virtual boy console

[Majin-vegeta]

Don't worry guys it's ok if everyone does it but when it's Sony it's a complete rip off*Rolls eyes*.

Then for that matter i guess every FPS is a ripoff of wolfenstien 3d.

I swear so many idiots these days that need their brains beat up like a pinata-___-.

[Mikhail]

Either they are too young to remember or just trolling because they want to.

*Glad you remember wolfenstien. Though, Doom was the one, in my eyes, that popularize FPS genere.

[Fylus]

"Too young" Right there^

The only ones complaining are the Nintendo guys and it's because they feel threatened. Plus, let's face it, Nintendo's fan base is a much younger audience who are going to react in a much more immature manner about this game.

[sly-Famous]

Much too young, most of the kids on this site will claim that all FPS games are ripoffs of COD:MW.

[MasterCornholio]

True but as for me Duke Nuekem 3D was the game that got me into FPSs.

[mobhit]

Remember, logic doesn't exist in the realm of trolls.

[Jazz4108]

Ifyou do your homework you will see segas and ms worked together on the online since dreamcast till live

[Relientk77]

What about the Wii one

TMNT Smash Up? or something with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

[Cennus]

I have an infatuation with the numbers 5, 10, 15, and 20. Nothing personal. :)

[Infernostew]

How about Onimusha: Blade Warriors too?

[rdgneoz3]

I was thinking the same thing. Was a fun with a group of friends.

http://onimusha.wikia.com/w...

[StraightPath]

Guess what theyall were horse poo compared to smash bros. This game is a clone n rip off but will be fun until new smash bros comes out

[trouble_bubble]

2006 = PS3 haz no gaemz
2012 = PS3 haz too many gaemz

That's pretty much it, ain't it? Today's arguments basically boil down to "OMG, a new game is coming out that I can't get on my not-so-subtle console of preference! I proclaim it teh failurz."

[Fylus]

That "Too many games" era for PS3 started closer to 2010. Just saying;)

[Parapraxis]

No, pretty sure it was 2008

[L6RD7BLU3]

I wonder how all the trolls feel when they said this game wasn't going to be announced LOLOLOLOL!

[Optical_Matrix]

I made a post like this earlier. Forgot Viewtiful Joe Red Hot Rumble though lol I have that on the PSP. Really good game. But yeah, theres been Super Smash Bros. 'Clones' for decades. Only reason this one is getting hate is because it's a Sony game and, bar Jump Ultimate/Super Stars, it's one of the online Smash Bros. type games that has half of chance of actually succeeding. It's just pure Nintendo fanboy FUD.

I'm a huge fan of Smash Bros. to the point that this games reveal has got me back on Brawl today, however I'm a fan of gaming first and I grew up, for the last 20 years of my life on Nintendo AND Sony franchises, so I see no problem here. Sony's not trying to compete with Nintendo. This is a game for PlayStation fans. Let them enjoy it.

Also lol It's not just the little Nintendo fan kiddies that are crying. Head over to NeoGAF and see the salt thats flowing over there despite the average age of the users on the board being 20-30. It's pathetic.

[Regent_of_the_Mask]

The difference between those clines & Playstation All-Stars is that the devs for Playstation All-Stars are actually good, are interested in making it competitive, & closely used the Smash Bros games for reference (Radec is basically the Snake of Sony Smash Bros).

[Fylus]

And from the looks of it, they are heavily succeeding. I can't wait for this game!

[mastemikegee]

Sorry but if Snake won't be in it I'll be hugely disappointed. I know Snake is a 3rd party character not exclusive but having had MGS4 exclusive that should count for something.

I want Snake.

[jacksonmichael]

Does Guilty Gear: Dust Strikers count?

[Hufandpuf]

Hopefully it sells well because PS3 exclusives have a knack for not selling to many copies. except for Killzone and Uncharted of course.

[Hatmantc]

What do you consider not many copies??

[Hufandpuf]

Last time I heard, dark souls SHIPPED 1.5 million copies.

Resistance 3 didn't break 1 million.

Heavy rain sold almost 2 million.

Infamous sold 2 million.

Infamous 2 only sold 1 million.

These were pretty hyped games, but didn't sell well enough IMO compared to other platform exclusives.

[Papertiger]

Same could be said for 360 exclusives save for gears of war and halo.

Forza, crackdown, alan wake, banjo kazooie, and Fable 3 come to mind.

[Hufandpuf]

If my comment had so many disagrees, then it may be false, which means that your comment would be false too.

(the logic of N4G)

[Parapraxis]

Nice try at logic, but you fail.
Most 360 exclusives didn't penetrate the market this gen.
Your comment got disagrees because the people here KNOW that the majority of PS3 exclusives have legs, and in the long run sell rather well.
Keep living in your bubble kid. You have a poor understanding of logic, clearly.

If your comment has disagrees it does not in turn make any comments on any matter subsequent of that comment false as well.
That is an absurd and ignorant interpretation.
You have the mind of a child and should be regarded as a child from this day on.
:)
:)
:)
;tldr Hufandpuf is a child, remove his bubbles.

[smashcrashbash]

How about GT5, GOW, Heavy Rain and LBP games that sold over 2 million and 3 million copies more then many games have done on other consoles? Do you ever stop to think how many copies many games don't sell on the Wii or the 360? Alan Wake, Mad World, Crackdown 2,Splinter Cell Conviction, Conduit, Zack and Wiki, Viva Pinata,Forza 4, the game that was supposed to outsell GT5 because it would be the 'king of sim racers', Fable 3, Epic Mickey, Sesame Street Kinect? Games that were supposed to 'beat everything and break the bank'? Like many gamers you only see what you want to see.

[_DragonSlayer_]

Gran Turismo 5 says hello 7.5 mil, LBP 2 says hello 3.2 mil,

[N4g_null]

Yet no one says smash brothers has sold like 15 million lol. Oh and the mad nation clone Mario kart crushed it too, why because they where fun. The reverse trolling ain't going to help... These are ps3 gamers calling your game a clone and not buying them. Every one knew halo was a clone and boring yet they bought it because they had fun playing.... Sony seemms to lack a key thing in gaming and that's fun. I guess hyping things and reverse trolling is more fun. PR is way out of hand these days.

[Hatmantc]

here's the problem with your post.. you make seem like people's definition of "fun" is going to be a standard measure. personally i don't find Mario Kart fun because it's rubberbanding. heck i don't find Mario games in general very fun because they don't engage me with a worth while story. does it matter if 100k people or 15 million people like something? as long as the end user enjoys himself that's all that matters i guess the more of the story is to each their own. but to say something lacks "fun" is totally incorrect.

[N4g_null]

Here is the problem with your post numbers prove more people had fun with those games than the people playing ps3 franchises period since they keep buying them. So your opinion is null. Sony isn't making this for fun they are cashing in. I hope it plays well and is fun for you. I guess mod nation wasn't that fun ethier.

I mean during the hype of ps3 games they sell well then fall off.. Mario kart is at like 30 million, smash is way up there too. They keep selling because they are fun period no matter your opinion. If you don't like rubber banding in mariokart then you must suck.... It's a battle and a race! Get it... It's no wonder mod nation sucked listening to what you thought was fun did what for them?

[turnerdc]

Don't get me wrong, the game still looks fun and interesting, but I guess I was hoping for something a bit different. Since they're going the SSB route though hopefully they add item drops. Didn't see any in the video but that's half the fun in SSB! Racing to the item and beating your opponent there by half a second to unleash its awesomeness!

[Mikhail]

They do have items. Head to Neogaf for more info about the game. I saw the Spear of destiny and resistance grenade on the trailer.

[turnerdc]

Nice! Thanks for the info, I'll have to check that out.

[TheDivine]

I have no problem with it but it is a blatant rip off. Id much rather see sony try to be creative instead of sitting around playing the wii to figure out their next move. SSB is really great because its original, easy to play hard to master, and because of Sakurai. Im sure it will be fun but it will prob be like modnation, a decent kart racer without the soul and charm of mario kart.

[Cablephish]

Only downfall for me is I'm gonna have to main a character that isn't Luigi. :(

[PygmelionHunter]

I remember there was a game for the PS2 in which you got to play as characters from Dragon Ball Z, Naruto and One Piece, I couldn't believe it when I first played it.

But anyway, I'm not hating on this game, but I'm probably not gonna buy it either just because I'm not as used to Sony characters as much as Nintendo characters, and there's obviously a new Smash Bros. coming out for the Wii U and 3DS, gonna save the money for that one.

[Neko_Mega]

Yeah, fanboys will make a big deal over nothing. Yeah theirs alot of games like SSB, but only fanboys chose to crying about the one Sony makes.

[kaveti6616]

Shouldn't a major company like Sony be held to a higher standard?

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

I'm pretty sure that people would rather have a more original game, but given that SSB is a good game, Battle Royale being similar to SSB is not really a big deal as we know that the SSB gameplay is good especially if you have played other mash ups that are similar to SSB like Jump Stars before. Jump Stars is very similar to SSB, but that didn't stop it from being a great and fun game.

Besides we need to wait for more details to see how Battle Royale tries to differentiate itself from SSB.

Instead of screaming ripoff! clone! unoriginal! Which is only stating the obvious, we should be more concerned to see further details for it.

[kaveti6616]

The editors at IGN called it a "clone" and they've had more hands-on interaction with the game. They said it was fun, but of course, that's beside the point. Copying a fun game is bound to make your game fun as well.

I'm not saying the game won't be fun, but as of right now, it doesn't even look like it takes advantage of the PS3, and the roster of characters released so far is not very impressive save for Kratos and Sweet Tooth.

If Sony wanted to present the game well, they should have included more iconic characters, not Fat Princess.

And the level with the Buzz quiz guy is ridiculously annoying and pointless. It's almost as if they put no thought into their roster, and had to include him. He's not appropriate at all for a fighting game. While you're fighting, a question pops up? What the hell is that all about? There are better ways of earning power-ups and specials than answering a trivia question while fighting. Another gripe I have is with the LBP level introduced thus far. Do we really need to see the LBP editor box above the map? There's no point to it other than to say in a very un-subtle manner, "Just in case you can't tell, this map is influenced by LBP."

The mashup between the Hydra from GOW and the Ratchet and Clank level doesn't work at all, either. They just don't mesh very well.

Very few of the Sony characters shown to be in the game thus far evoke the same level of nostalgic attachment as Nintendo characters in the SSB games.

I have a feeling the success of this game will be contingent upon the third party character lineup.

Edit: And if you guys think it's unfair to accuse Gameloft of ripping off games, have a look at Nova 3, one of their latest titles.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

What game does Nova 3 seem to be overly reminiscent of?

I can name two: Crysis 2, and Vanquish.

Gameloft is an iOS developer. They've been operating for a little more than 2 years.

Someone explain to me why Sony, who has all of these amazing studios with decades of experience, decided to let a 2 year old iOS developer with a history of ripping off other games handle their franchises? Why?

[Cajun Chicken]

It does make me wish that they took more a Powerstone 3D arena approach to this game.

[DialgaMarine]

The top comments are right. SSB tends to be the single best party/MP game with each Nintendo console. Now that the Nintendrones finally see a game that can not only be as great as SSB, but potentially better, they're going to do as much damage control and ripoff calling, despite the fact that we know extremely about just what the game will feature. People with me, who think this looks awesome and can't wait for its release, prepare for a bumpy ride. The criticism for this game is only going to get worse from here on out.

[N4g_null]

This game is not going to effect smash brothers at all. You are not understanding why people bought that game. It very similar to why mod nation did not sell and the sonic kart racing sold better. Smash is one hell of a game that can stand on it own after tons of games like it. Yet you guys are giving this new game the trophy before it even comes out, which is what killed mod nation racers what ever it was.

Clones tend to copy rather than bring some thing new to the table... Does it have a 2d adventure mode? Tight game play that makes you want to play the orinignal game? Do you even like the characters? Yeah none of that matters because you just need to take up for a company that is phoneing crap in now.

[Omar91]

At this point its only been confirmed that theres online and 4 player co op as well as a story mode. NOthing else has been announced. I just want to remind you that the game was just announced yesterday.

The controls are tight and responsive based on all the previews I've read on the game so thats not a problem at all.

most of the characters right off the bat are sony classics (kratos, parappa the rapper and, sly and sweet tooth) of course they are likable characters! thats not half of the characters yet. There will be characters that will to be interesting at all. In smash bros I didn't like every character in the game (young link, jiggly puff, pichu etc)
It might not have the same effect for for nintendo fans but for sony fans its just what we wanted

[RockmanII7]

I almost bought and convinced like 5 of my friends to buy Cartoon Network: Punch Time Explosion, but the final game didn't have freaking online play. Hope Sony doesn't follow the same path.

[Rynx]

It was mentioned that it will have online play.

[RockmanII7]

That's good, in this day in age if you're gonna make a game that's focused on multiplayer online play is a necessity.

[Yodagamer]

As an nintendo and a sony fan, i am excited to really see this, is it the most original thing in the world? probably not, but it will be awesome regardless.

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

Actually...

Without a health bar and no emphasis on hitting your opponent out of the ring, it's more like Power Stone than Super Smash Bros. :)

WHICH IS A GOOD THING!!! Getting a combo of the two best brawlers in history is the best thing they could have done!

[smashcrashbash]

No. Most people who say ignorant things have no idea what they are talking about.They just say the first thing that comes in their heads and say it without thinking. Anyone who knows gaming history knows that many games including the most popular Power Stone influenced SSB.Any gamer with knowledge of gaming history knows that.This gen is built on ignorance and stupidity. At least in earlier gens you actually had to have some sort of sense or personality to talk about gaming. But now people just write first and think later

[kaveti6616]

SSB did a lot to differentiate itself from Powerstone, and looks and plays virtually nothing like Powerstone.

Gameloft is known for blatantly copying other franchises to make mobile games.

And for a while, they've been let off the hook because their games aren't bad and the mobile market is in need of console-like games.

But this is different. The PS3 is a console, and Gameloft has no business ripping off SSB because a console platform called the Wii already exists to provide gamers with SSB.

Sony no doubt chose Gameloft to developer Battle Royale because in this case Sony's not interested in creating a different fighting game for its all-star roster. It wants the game to be exactly like SSB. And that's not ethical at all.

Additionally, Gameloft isn't a high pedigree studio. They make iOS games. And it shows with Battle Royale that they don't know how to take full advantage of the PS3.

I'm disappointed that Sony, with all its resources gave an ambitious project like this to a mediocre developer.

[trouble_bubble]

@hufandpuf
What are you talking about? MGS4, GT5, Resistance FOM, Motorstorm, LBP, GOW3 have all sold more than Killzone which you namedropped as one of only 2 PS3 successes.

Heavy Rain & inFamous passing 2 mil' wasn't great for new IPs? R3 passed a million over Christmas btw.

You mention Dark Souls too, but that's multiplat, and the PS3 version outsold the 360 one like 3:1. Go to vgchartz if you must.

Papertiger is right. Even the almighty Mass Effect barely passed 2 mil' a pop, let alone the Splinter Cell Convictions and Metros/Preys of the world. Why move the goal posts now just for Playstation All Stars?

[memots]

Still waiting for HALO Kart

[L-64]

what a rip off.

[L-64]

well it is deal with it.

[eindeadmiles]

Digimon Rumble Arena anyone?

[CaitSith]

I don't get why so many people are so close-minded when they see a game that rips off another game. So what?! As long as a game looks fun to play, it shouldn't matter. I mean, that's why we play games, right?

...Right?

[dbsg]

All i gotta say is, people take games too seriously these days... all this debate really comes from the fans when i bet nintendo & sony don't even care lol

[Lilioups]

that nintendo "journalist"fangirl try too hard lol

[Mikhail]

After reading about it, I see a glimpse of powerstone gameplay too but still heavily rely on SSB. Well, we only have trailers on it. The online mode would differentiate it.

[L-64]

-_-........................... ............................... ............................... ............................... ............................... ............................... ............................... ............................... ............................... ..................rip-off XD

[sly-Famous]

HAHAHAHA...................Mus t be bad knowing you wont be able to play this game, sucks to be you. What is it you said in a previous post? deal with it! :)

[Tundra]

After reading some of these posts, some of those people need to grow up. It's a game and if it is similar to another game, get over it. Apple, Samsung, Sony, Microsoft, etc. all take aspects from one another's products. Quit bitching, it's what companies do naturally.

[Unlimax]

I Made a picture just for You Haterz :3
http://img814.imageshack.us...

[StitchJones]

This will fail.

[ShinraE5]

Two points.

1 - This is a total rip.
2 - Point 1 doesn't matter. Virtually everything is a rip these days. As long as Sony does their fans well and makes a great game, how is it a bad thing?

If MS would let me pit MC against Fenix or Dom, a Crackdown agent, hammer (Fable), Kaim (LO), etc, I would be all damn for it.

[Siren30]

Playstation move all over again. Next thing we will get is a article that shows smash bros was sony's idea first but passed on it. Keep trying to defend this but most people know its a rip off

[Lucretia]

your a rip off of your mother because you share her DNA, Get your own dna you Clone........thats your analogy right there

if PS all stars wasnt a party fighter then people would say its a street fighter or tekken clone, so eitherway ya need to stfu You clone of your mother

[JoeSchmoh]

We western gamers will find ANYTHING about a game to exploit & bitch about. Yet, when a dime a dozen FPShooter game comes out, it's like a fking 10+ rated game! Why do people find any and every little thing to bitch about at sony!? If Microsoft came out with the same game, people would be typing alllll over the fking internet. "Epic Microsoft Fighter Revealed" or some BS like that! You know it's true!

[TeflonHahn]

No one seems to remember that Onimusha smash style game for PS2 lol It was actually kinda fun =P

[Lucretia]

I do! :P

[Young_ART]

I'd be bashing Sony too if the majority of the good/decent games I can play on my console can be found on other consoles as well.

I swear I wish you casual/xbots never existed. The online community doesn't want your opinion. What do you know about gaming anyway?

The majority of you people constantly complaining about a console you don't even play, are hardcore COD players, and "app" players. (did you get angry birds in space bro? /end sarcasm)

[dcortz2027]

Yeah, because Ninty and Microsoft are SO original, right! So, every game that has guns is a rip of from the first shooter game ever created? I've been waiting for a game like this on a Playstation platform for a long time, thanks for listening Sony! I could care less what others think about it.

[gustave154]

So when its coming out?

[volkornka]

This is just a clone. I don't understand why people defend sony. All who say its not a rip off probably didn't play with the Super Smash Bros franchise.
And the biggest point why this is a clone: They don't deny it, they set this against SSB.
But it's probably not new to anyone. A few examples:
1.copied the Xbox 360's Achievement system with their own Trophy system
2. Move: almost an exact copy of the Wii Mote system
3.Sackboy Kart racing game (Sackboy is Sony's Mario)
And now...Sony Smash Bros.
I know Sony fans will jump to defend their company. I'll be called a fanboy. Sony fans will claim Nintendo games are geared towards kids, yet when Sony copies Nintendo's games the Sony versions somehow aren't geared for kids?
Bye

[SirRidge]

I seem to remember a Medabots Smash Bros clone as well for the GBA back in the day..

These games are fun. That is really all that matters. We could argue all day about basic concepts being copied. At the end of the day as long as it is fun who really cares?

[Lighter9]

You forgot TMNT Smash Up. The only one I've heard of.

[RGB]

"Sony have no ideas..." New IPs this generation, only on PlayStation 3, developed and/or published by Sony. This doesn't include PSP or PS Vita IPs.

New IP retail titles;

Folklore, Heavenly Sword, Heavy Rain (massive innovation), Infamous series, Lair, LittleBigPlanet series (massive innovation), MAG, Modnation Racers, Motorstorm series, Resistance series, The Last Guardian, The Last of Us, Uncharted series (Most successful new IP) Warhawk/Starhawk and White Knight Chronicles series.

New IP PSN titles;

Blast Factor, Calling All Cars, Crash Commando, Dark Mist, Dead Nation, .detuned, Echochrome series, Elefunk, Fat Princess, Fl0w, Flower, Feel Ski, Go! series, Gravity Crash, High Stakes, High Velocity Bowling, Hustle Kings, Journey, Linger in Shadows, LocoRoco Cocoreccho, Nucleus, PAiN, Papo & Yo, Pixel Junk series, Piyotama, PlayStation Home, Savage Moon, Sky Diving, Snakeball, Stardust, Super Rub 'a' Dub, The Last Guy, Top Darts, Toy Home, Trash Panic and Under Siege.

New IP PlayStation Move titles;

Datura, Kung Fu Rider, Medieval Moves: Deadmund's Quest, PlayStation Move Heroes, Sorcery, Sports Champions, Start the Party!, The Fight: Lights Out, The Shoot and TV Superstars.

New IP PlayStation Eye titles;

Aqua Vita, EyePet, Mesmerize games, Operation Creature Feature, The Eye of Judgement, The Trials of Topoq and Tori-Emaki.

Additionally, returning PlayStation IP titles;

Ape Escape, Buzz! series, Everybody's Golf series, Formula One Championship Edition (Last of SCE series), God of War series, Gran Turismo series, Killzone series, Ratchet & Clank series, SingStar series, Siren series, Sly Cooper series, SOCOM series, Twisted Metal and Wipeout.

Nintendo and Microsoft would dream of a list a quarter of this size.