Outrage expressed over planned change to Mass Effect 3 ending

There's an old addage that states "You can't please everyone." BioWare, the acclaimed video game studio behind Mass Effect 3, is finding this out as gamers and non-gamers alike are speaking out against the developer's descision to change the game's ending via downloadable content due out this Summer.

[Nate-Dog]

A quote from one university student counts as "outrage"? The ending isn't being changed anyway, they're just adding on to it.

[deep_fried_bum_cake]

OUTRAGE!!! Yeah it's a silly article.

[Tuxmask55]

Raaaaage!

[da_2pacalypse]

I kind of agree with the university student. I don't think they can simply fix the problems in the ending with an "extended cut". There are things that are fundamentally wrong that can't just be fixed with a tacked on addition. There is virtually no change in either of the three ending choices you are given.

In addition, why are we only given three choices in the first place? Casey Hudson clearly said in an interview before the game was launched that the ending would not consist of "an A B C choice". Whether you liked the ending or not, that was exactly what it was, and so they clearly lied (and it wasn't unintentional).

SPOILER:

In my opinion, the fact that we're not even given the chance to talk with the "ghost child" is just a big smack in the face. No questions, no nothing. Why can't we at least argue with the kid, and say "hey, i got the geth and quarians to finally cooperate, we don't need to continue with this cycle"

In all reality though, I think the explanation for why the cycle is there in the first place is kind of stupid. But perhaps that wouldn't stick out so much if there wasn't so many problems with the way the game ended.

[mistajeff]

*spoilers*

^^ it's because the explanation of the reason for the cycles is bullshit to begin with, it's all in shepard's head and the explanation is just harbinger trying to trick shepard. it's a clever ending in its own right, the problem is that it doesn't actually wrap anything up or resolve the central conflict of the series. what i'm worried about is how EA is going to try to milk the franchise going forward, since the reaper war isn't actually over. but i could see bioware using the end choice in a clever way for their next ME game.. if you chose green or blue and became indoctrinated, what if shepard becomes a main antagonist in the next game? what if you got the ending where shepard wakes up, and he/she could be an NPC with appearance and behavior based on your save data? what i don't want is to see the conflict dragged out across a ton of games and have real answers withheld for so long that the fan base will stop caring and move on before anything is actually resolved.

[Gaming101]

Have you not heard the constant griping of infantile man-children on the internet whining about the ending for months now? It's everywhere, not just limited to what was mentioned in the article. Yes there is outrage, and yes the people with infantile mentalities in the article were also outraged. Look up the meaning of words before commenting.

[ShinMaster]

The movement and shooting mechanics are sluggish.
The RPG elements are lacking.
The animations are decent.

All there's left is the graphics and story. But even the story in Mass Effect 3 seems to be struggling.

ME1 was the best one.

[lord_of_balrogs]

It was so easy to create an ending to Mass Effect 3, I don't know how they screwed it up.

Paragon option high EMS: destroy the reapers, Shep lives, hug your romance, earth is saved, see a series of epilogue cutscenes from your actions throughout the series.

Paragon option low EMS: destroy the reapers, Shep dies, romance option goes to your funeral, earth blows up, see a series of epilogue cutscenes from your actions throughout the series.

Renegade option high EMS: control the reapers, humans now control all of the galaxy due to controlling the reapers and they subjugate all aliens, Shep lives, alien romance dumps you for this betrayal, human romance is okay with it, earth is saved, see a series of epilogue cutscenes from your actions throughout the series.

etc.

oh and destroying the mass relays was stupid, how will sequels happen without the mass relays?

[Lyle91]

Galactic society's need to travel vast distances leads them to making their own Mass Relay technology.

[Blacktric]

At least now the stupid Asari Matriarchs will listen to Aetheyta s suggestions about creating their own Mass Relays instead of laughing the blue off their asses at her like she said. Hell, maybe Shepard can find a memory shard from Protheans that details the construction of the Conduit from the first Mass Effect. BTW; the sequels CAN happen since Mass Relays were just an easy way to travel between star clusters. Since most of the ships have FTL drives, they can use them to reach certain clusters in a matter of months or years.

[Pillville]

Assuming the Indoctrination Theory is true, nothing at the Citadel at the end actually happened. It was all a "dream".

The only reason I hope the Indoctrination Theory is true is so that they can "undo" the plot holes and bad choices.

So,
There's no star child
Citadel not destroyed
Illusive man is not dead
Mass Relays are not destroyed
Reapers not destroyed/controlled/synthesiz ed
Shepard is still in London, Reapers still attacking, crucible still might work, squad still alive, etc.., etc...

[mistajeff]

the indoctrination theory is the only possible explanation that makes sense. to be honest, i don't even see how the current ending could've gotten approved unless the indoctrination theory were true.

[wicko]

Glad I didn't give them any clicks - hurray for comments.

[deep_fried_bum_cake]

That's the best way to go about it.

[DeadlyFire]

I still have not read anything about a changed ending. I have read that we will actually see some extra cutscenes/clips + likely text boxes explaining bits that are missing.

[BlackPrince 42]

Next comes the outrage over the outrage by the people who were outraged by the original ending in the first place.

Bioware should not have responded in anyway. Once they started feeding the trolls by being accomodating they prolonged this nonsense further.

Had they kept mum everyone would have forgotten this in a few months.

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[VanillaBear]

Sorry but what idiot wouldn't want them to clear up the plothole filled mess that we have to call the ending to a great trilogy.

Theres just trying to make sense to the ending we currently have.....although I will admit if over time we find out they aren't using the indoctrination theory then I will be p*ssed off since theres no way you can explain all the plotholes in the ending.....theres just to many, plus they havent denied that theory yet.

I'am still a little dissapointed it won't come in the form of gameplay like one last level/boss AND THEN the ending cutscene but this is better then nothing.

[Nimblest-Assassin]

no... the outrage is from people who want a completely new ending rather than the extended cut.

Mass Effect "fans" are becoming annoying now. It was a bad ending, they want to explain it... WHY DON'T YOU LET THEM? It won't cost you anything, they did not have to do it.

No... they want some completely new ending, rather than letting Bioware clarify theirs.

They are doing it for free, let them do it, and then judge. Getting mad over them wanting to help the fans and adress their concerns is idiotic.

The people who want the ending changed are not entitled.... no, they just do not understand that life is filled with disappointments. You move on... you don't whine and complain that something does not meet your liking. It will happen a lot in life.

I actually feel sorry for those people who are "outraged" over the ending. They just can not accept disappointment

THERE ARE MORE PRESSING ISSUES ON THIS PLANET, RATHER THAN THE ENDING TO A VIDEOGAME FRANCHISE!

@vanillabear

I love Mass Effect, and sure the ending sucked. Im annoyed by the fact that Bioware wants to address these issues, and people refuse to listen or even give them the benifit of the doubt, it is always change the ending or GTFO...

Thats why I say, get over it. If this is how they want to approach the issue, give them a chance, and see how it goes, rather than complain that once again life is filled with disappointments.

[VanillaBear]

Look the people who wanted the ending changed at the beginging are right and are entitled because there the ones who made got Bioware were they are today and made ME popular. If the ending is full of plotholes which goes against the rest of the game which is well written then yeah...theres something wrong.

I could go on but all of this has been said before.

We get it though, you don't care about the ending and if you don't care why get upset over people who wanted the ending changed in the first place.

[Nimblest-Assassin]

Do they deserve it though? Do you think George Lucas knew that Star Wars would explode to the lengths it has today?

No... I chose to keep watching Star Wars and playing Mass effect. Those people owe me nothing. I kept paying for their product because I chose to.

Why do you think Lucas keeps tweaking the films? He wants his own personal satisfaction in the movies he created. He does not care for the fan backlash. He never asked for millions of fans to obsess over his work. We chose to...

Fans annoy me because they laugh at artistic integrity. They think conforming to the people who pay for your product is the right thing. For artists, it is painful to do, because they feel like they would be cheating themselves.

Why do you think they refuse to change the ending? Because if they do, it hurts them on that scale, because the work 'they' wanted to do is squandered, due to what other people want you to do.

If you had a dream, and you wanted to do this so badly, but everyone else laughed at you and forced you to do something else, don't you think you would be disappointed with yourself.

If this is how they wanted Mass Effect to end, this is how they wanted Mass Effect to end. If thats how George Lucas wants Star Wars to be, thats how he wants it to be.

We choose to try these things, we chose to like them and continue to buy their products. They do not owe us anything. Bioware does not tell people to dress up and cosplay as their characters. These people choose to do so.

We took the blue pill, we saw how deep the rabbit hole goes. We did not like what we found, this is expected in life.

Its a labour of love for these people, we decided to go along for the ride.

I too can go on and on about how that integrity is important, but it will fall on deaf ears. I expect disagrees, but I really do not care.

We made these choices, we need to accept them. Thats how life goes.

All these people who complain for refunds, a new ending, etc, etc should not act like this. We should understand that Bioware did not tell us to love their product, we choose what we like, and do not like.

Im tired of complaining. I will wait for this extended cut, but this is the last time I will return to the Bioware Social Network, or talk about the ending. Im done

[antz1104]

@ Vanilla,

People aren't entitled to anything unless you're royalty, lol.

People are going to find a way to b%tch about anything. While not the best ending, I need to look at it like I got sixty awesome hours (so far) out of a game with an ok ending. There are far worse games out there. Admittedly I was disappointed I didn't get to dropkick Harbinger into the next galaxy though.

[upallnightgamer]

Well-spoken, sir. I'm waiting to see what this Extended Cut will include. I can even look past the fact that they destroyed the Mass Relay network, since Patrick Weekes said they weren't necessary for interstellar travel. They were just a convenience. BioWare is finding themselves in a damned if you do, damned if you don't sitch.

[sly-Famous]

"Sorry but what idiot wouldn't want them to clear up the plothole filled mess that we have to call the ending to a great trilogy."

The idiot that will have to pay a fee for it.

[Nimblest-Assassin]

you have a problem with free?

[upallnightgamer]

Did you just ignore the fact that it's FREE?!!! As in "WILL NOT COST YOU ONE RED CENT"?

[SageHonor]

Misleading title. Not surprised. Not worth a look. Pathetic article. I guess its that " slow time " of the month

[RXL]

better than "that time of the month" if you ask me..

*continues hiding from girlfriend*

[dredgewalker]

better than "jail time" if you ask me....

*continues hiding from the cops*

[IIC0mPLeXII]

Simply put if they are angry about an ending change they aren't real fans of the series.

[Hicken]

Lots of non real fans out there, then. Not saying I'm one of em, though.

[Bimkoblerutso]

Don't be ridiculous. I think many of us just think it sets a poor precedent in the industry, especially when the topic of whether or not games should be considered art comes up. Community influence is never conducive to artistic integrity....ever.

Luckily, they're not really changing it.

[Qazdaz]

It sets a much worse precedent if they don't change it. The ending was piss poor. A 10 year old could have wrote better. If that's the standard for storytelling in gaming then games will never be considered art.

[aliengmr]

Maybe it will, and next time a developer decides to make a story driven trilogy like Mass Effect, they'll plan for the ending from the very beginning of production instead of waiting till the last minute.

Maybe they consider the quality of the ending before tacking on an incoherent mess and calling it an ending. Then just assume the fans should happy they're allowed to buy the game in the first place.

I hope it sets a precedent. Think twice before handing garbage to your customers and telling them its gold.

[Anon1974]

I said this exact thing would happen. Let's face it. There was a group that wanted to hate Mass Effect way before it even launched. They moaned about changes in Mass Effect 2. They called for a boycott when the game went multiplatform. They lost their damn minds when it dared offer day one DLC, they freaked when the ending wasn't all things to all players. Face it. They'll be pissed no matter what Bioware does.

And isn't it the journey, not the destination? If you can play a game, but a hundred hours into it and enjoy it every step of the way and then lose your mind when it doesn't exactly stick the landing - why are you even gaming? I've played so many great games with shite endings I've lost count over the years - but I still look back fondly on a number of those titles because playing them was damn entertaining, even if the ending let me down.

And what of the fans and critics that had no issue with the endings? It's funny to me that those pissed off by the endings are so self absorbed, so unbelievably arrogant that they thing their will should be forced on everyone. Thankfully Bioware isn't having any of it. I think the extended cut could patch up some plot holes, but I love they aren't changing the ending - and why should they? It's their creation.

Don't like it, tough. No one put a gun to your head and forced you to play, or to support their future products. If you think you can do better, prove it. Make your own damn game. Feel free to share your opinion, but don't for a second think your can ram your opinion down everyone else's throats. Nor do you have the write to threaten individual Bioware employees or their families - like we've seen done here. Games aren't made by corporations. They're made by people. Talented writers, artists, coders, etc - and the people who love and support them. And I can't get over how quickly these little shits turn on those people who gave them so much gaming joy just like that. It's despicable. Didn't like the ending? Complain and move on. Stop trying to punish these people and their families because your daddy didn't give you enough hugs.

Bravo, Bioware, for even trying to placate these people, but more so for leaving your ending intact.

[ziggurcat]

bubbles for you, sir.

[TekoIie]

I too am giving bubbles.

I liked the ending because it leaves the story open to speculation. I wanted a "sacrifice yourself" ending and I got something similar. I think that if fans dictated the ending to games/movies entertainment wouldn't be the same.

[greyhaven33]

Well said

[Bimkoblerutso]

Yeah, I'll throw a bubble in there too. Well said.

[upallnightgamer]

And one that didn't have to happen. They could've just left it alone.

[Megaton]

The ending isn't being changed, so whoever is "outraged" needs to pay more attention to what's going on.

[SactoGamer]

The feeling with these folks is, apparently, that even adding onto the ending is the same as changing it.

[brbobcat]

Who approves this crap? Does the author have 10 accounts that he just approves all his crap

[SeraphimBlade]

Where? I don't see any. Not from people who actually understand what's going on, anyway. More people seem mad that they're not changing it enough.

Me? I just want everyone to shut up.

[Razgriz383]

I wish they WERE changing the ending...

[maniacmayhem]

IMO, the ending was left so far open only for the sake of EA and Bioware continuously giving us DLC to find out what the hell happened.

[Anti-Fanboyer]

Local ABC News10.

Didn't even bother reading.

[ginsunuva]

Remember that leaked script a long time ago? What was the ending back then?

[urwifeminder]

Still have not got the game as im saving for other things ill be pissed if it got changed to the point of never buying it screw shepard and the hundreds of hours i put into me 1 and 2,as it will no longer be the original vision if i can play without updating i may still get it way to screw it up rabbid fannyhags.

[strange1986]

Wow. If you don't want the extended ending then don't download it. Very simple.

[DA_SHREDDER]

Outrage? More like nerd rage.

[SephirothX21]

Its only a game. I won't buy the dlc as the ending on the disc is the ending full stop. Grow up, get over it and move on you immature cry babies!

[WitWolfy]

Tell that to the people who bought SF vs Tekken games as well. Seeing it is a "complete game" TOO right?... RIGHT???

[Gigglefist]

If I may quote...
"Some people just want to watch the world burn..."
That's pretty much it. People complaining just to cause trouble.

[MeatAbstract]

Ok Mass Effect fans. Shut up. Just shut the hell up. I'm all for having a moan once in awhile about how dissapointed you are by something. We all get like that. But you all feel you're so entitled to this extended ending. Some of you even want a new ending altogether.

Is this how things work now? A group of fans aren't happy with something so they cry and complain until someone caves in? Bioware should of stuck to their guns on this.

What if The Beatles had fans like you? Complaining that they didn't like 'The White Album', that they should take it back and do it again because "OOOHHH I DON'T LIKE IT!!!"

I wouldn't be surprised if David Lynch got a lot of complaints cause his work is hard to interpret, I'm sure many people and fans alike can be dissapointed by his work. It's people like that though that have an artistic vision and stand by what they created, regardless of what people think.

The mob mentality of Bioware's fanbase reminds of that Russel Brand and Jonathon Ross stuff awhile back when they played a joke on the radio. About 5 people complained but then the press got wind of it and everyone jumped on the bandwagon and delcared "THATS HORRIBLE!". If the ending hadn't of gotten as much media coverage as it did, I reckon people would of just been dissapointed but would of just left it at that.

How many other games have a dissapomting ending? How many TV shows, films, concept albums, books have dissapomting endings? Its countless.

Your crying and moaning got you SOMETHING from Bioware anyway. Shut up and take it and be grateful you're getting anything at all.

[00]

entitled for wanting the fans to not be entitled or those only entitled to for being entitled for wanting entitlement change because they're entitled? is it already entitlement for entitlement sake or is there a difference the entitlement.

[WitWolfy]

Watching a TV show/movie or reading book doesnt cost you $60 now, does it?

[00185]

These Mass Effect articles are getting old.

[PooEgg]

Yes, and they are like a train wreck, I don't want to look anymore, because it makes me so sad, and yet I keep looking...why do I keep looking!

[Roccetarius]

Seems like the people complaining about fans still don't get it. I guess their head is too thick to realize it.

Also, that word ''Entitled'' gets thrown around quite a lot. Pretty much all of the bad journalists rears their ugly head with that. It shows how few ''gaming journalists'* we truly have.

People will always be Sheeple, accepting the shit they're given. They literally took a dump on the franchise with the ending. This all happened due to pressure from EA, and too little input from the other writers.

The ending is just one thing on the pile.

[ziggurcat]

what's not to get? you're crying over the ending to a *video game*, and throwing a 3-year old temper tantrum. that's why the word "entitled" gets thrown around - because you're all acting like spoiled little brats.

stories don't always end how you want them to... so get over it and move on, already. just be glad that they're at least trying to explain some of the things were confusing you crybabies.

[PooEgg]

The entitled thing is just stupid. It reminds me of when a child learns a new word, but has no clue what the word means, so the child just runs around saying it all the time. At least its cute when the 5 year old does it, it isn't cute when a troll does it.

[glennco]

I am OUTRAGED!

[PixL]

I woke up and found that my toothpaste ended. So I wrote a blog article and outrage started. Tomorrow - riots.

[stragomccloud]

The ending is being changed at all. Simply, "clarified."

[Valkyre]

is every single matherfacker out there retarded or what? They are not changing the facking ending they are just adding to it, extending it.

Jesus I dont know what the hell is going on it seems like there are 2 groups of idiots

the A group is the one outraged why the ending is not changed and is only expanded

the B group is outraged because the ending is changed when it is actually not...(i guess they win...)

fack my life lol

[honkyjesus]

When they truly change the ending, you will be paying for it. This update is just going to add a new color to the ending.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

Terrible article. I regret clicking the link.
I would rather listen to a cat meow about being a drunkard.

Well this is it ME fans. Lets wait for the DLC. Either Bioware is going to keep the ending f*(ked up with "explanations" or they will do something more imaginative. There will be no more changes after that so don't waste your time with this. Play some other game like The Witcher or some silly JRPG(I am playing SO First Departure, Sh!t I can't have Erys Jerand).

[TheOrion]

Even if there was a point to be made those who wanted it to stay the same simply don't have to touch the DLC, those who wanted a new ending well you got a clarification to appease that.

To expect an entirely new ending because you didn't like it is silly. Hell I hate the ending to FFXIII-2 but I don't expect them to go back and change it for me.

[MonopolyRSV]

Nickle and diming people for the most ridiculous stuff that isn't even related to the actual gameplay for the most part. I'd never pay for it.

[Kurylo3d]

no ending is good enough for these big cry babies.

[Spazz]

OMFG if you can't obviously tell that is not the ending then you people have serious issues.

It is a dream state or as some call it indoctrination theory.

Bioware was already planning to add to it before everyone started bitching except they thought they would be able to do it for money in DLC content. They didn't expect the backlash they received. So hence why it's going to be free!

[Kurylo3d]

would also explain how fast they made it lol

[ArtificiallyYours]

Frankly, this became a dead horse as soon as Bioware announced the DLC. Take it or leave it. Two chances for anything is a damn blessing.

[cheesus]

Really bored of this whole situation. People need to get a grip on what is important in life. No one should get to the point where they have to react like a lot of these people have, and Bioware caving in is like a parent enabling their temper tantrum throwing child is bad for the industry. Chill out and live your lives, and play another game if it pleases you, but please, no more tantrums.

[hano]

I just finished the game and I was expecting to be horrified at a cheap ending.

Sure, there were some loopholes but all in all, I thought it was a good ending. IMO, Shepherd had to die to make it feel a sacrifice had to be made to win against the reapers, otherwise it would be a micky mouse ending.

Those who hate the ending are possibly just not happy that the ending is a bit gloomy.

[Lord_Sloth]

It doesn't change anything. Just explains better how every choice you've made doesn't matter since it all ends the same anyway.

I like blue so I choose the Blue ending.

[Dazel]

Dambed if they do, Dambed if they don't.

Just started playing it and so far it's great, they should just stick with what they made.

[barakus7]

These comments are all hilarious. I find myself smiling at almost all of them.

People mad that the artists are compromising.

People mad that Bioware isn't changing everything.

People mad that things won't be the same.

People mad that they think they are going to have to pay.

And the best, people mad at those who are mad.

We are all going to be dead someday, just like Shepard (lol). We should all be a little happier, don't you think?

P.S. I'm a huge fan of the series and decided to pass on ME3. Read a lot leading up to my purchase and Bioware's ending is not the type of "art" I like, so I'm not buying. :-)

[Kemicalbeliefs]

An outrage over the rage off mass effect 3? That's outrageous.

[jpbikemad]

People have the right to express their grievances about a video game that they have become to love and having said that people deserve a proper ending to a great series that they have invested alot of money into and not this convoluted mess with alot of plot holes. If I never new about the indoctrination theory I would of been baffled, hell I still am abit cause I (like many others) would have never come up with that idea/theory.

[dcbronco]

When Bioware was purchased by EA many gamers feared it would be turned into a cookie cutter operation. The ending of ME3 seems to indicated Bioware has been turned into a cookie cutter operation. It's the new Madden. But unlike Madden it was supposed to be a trilogy. And the only way for EA to continue to use the highly lucrative franchise is to keep the loyal fanbase happy. I don't buy many EA games because of the way they choose to do business. I believe the ending would have played out more along the lines of the first two games had Bioware remained independent. So many things have changed over the years as far as companies obligations to the customer. In fact, customer service is a thing of the past. If EA has to eventually truly change the ending it will be a victory for gamers. And companies will know we aren't all sheep buying what we're told we're supposed. In the long run we will have better games for it. Bioware didn't go in an "artistic direction" with the ending of ME3. The ending of ME3 got pushed out the door by it's pimped with a half finished make-up job.

And yes, I'm admitting I f---ed it. But only because this is the Internet and no one knows who I am.

[Enigma_2099]

This much rage... over an ending. Being dissatisfied with the way a story ends is nothing new, but what kind of precedent does it set where you just b**** about it until the developers change it? Why add the story at all if you're just going to cater to those who complain the loudest about it?

Stick by your guns. If they don't like it, accept it. It's the story you wanted to tell apparently. Incidentally, if they hate what you wrote so much that they don't buy your game, then you'll just have to accept it, won't you?

[dcbronco]

If you aren't going to make a ending that actually follows the spirit of the beginning then don't make a trilogy. Especially not a RPG. If the choices actually meant something and made a difference in the ending then there wouldn't be any real reason to complain. But they just threw some BS out there.

They could have done a completely scripted game and had that ending and it would have been fine. But to have so many variations and to come done to a couple of endings is a little bit of a cheap move. What they did with the ending they gave us is given us a reason to go back to the old notions of what EA represents.

I was beginning to come around because they had started to do a much better job. But phoning in this ending has sent them back to American auto makers in the '70's status with me. I will buy after I have a chance to see what I'm getting. EA had years of losses because of half-a--ed work. They continue to do that with other franchising like Madden and obviously with NBA Live, which was so bad that even they canceled it at the last moment. They are paying for what they did.

I spent a ton of time on the first two and have played the multi-player a ton on 3. But them giving out free multi-player maps and DLC is an indication that they know they have done a poor job. And the free items are potential income lost that would have made spending the money for a proper ending worthwhile. And I won't be buying anything else from the ME universe.

I understand that accepting what you get has been the way things have worked in the world for some time. But it shouldn't be. More people need to turn away form opportunist and their attempts to steal money. A little more time and effort would have paid off for EA. Changing the ending would go a long way toward showing that they understand they can't do business that way anymore.

[Enigma_2099]

My statement was mainly directed at the devs. If something about a game upsets you, I'm not telling anyone to get over it. And the main reason I don't understand all the rage over this is I haven't even played a Mass Effect game. But before this, I haven't known people to hate Bioware this much. EA, maybe, but as soon as Mass Effect 3 comes out, people are actually saying that the endings are so bad that they're flat out boycotting ME3 and naming EA the worst company of all time on opinion polls? I sit back and have to think to myself, how can a GAME ENDING be so bad, it causes this kind of hatred and backlash? Again, I admit, I haven't played it, I don't know what the endings are, or even know if they're actually that bad. That's what I'm saying. I don't know, and I have a hard time understanding how you get this kind of response over an ending. But if someone's actually able to explain to me exactly how none of this is overreacting and it's actually justified , I'm more than willing to listen.

And for the record, I'm still pissed at what EA did to my Need for Speed franchise. But I can't see myself ever going this far.

[dcbronco]

Enigma the main selling point to ME was that your decisions had an effect on the game. And they did for the first two. People died and there were things that you wouldn't see. Or things would happen because someone didn't die. I played through ME2 and the first time six people died. I replayed it and only one died because I made better choices. Again, all in line with the main selling point. But in three, some things just happened. You made decisions like in the past, but at the end, they didn't help you. They didn't hurt either. They didn't matter at all.

***Spoiler***

There wasn't a huge final battle where all of your previous decisions came back to help/haunt you. The ending would have happened the way it happened. Instead of chaos theory, we got a funnel. It was going to lead to the same three choices. You could have lost every companion throughout the series and it would have meant nothing but a shorter game in the next part. The ending should have been a final battle with the support of as many people as you had helped and saved. You really could have lost everyone and still finished the game the same way you did. And that sucked. My second play-through of part two was a waste. You never got to use most of those players again. And it didn't live up to the idea of your decisions mattering.

A final battle on the Citadel where you had all of your teammates fighting would have been better. The people you promoted from the multi-player. The people you had helped over the course of the three games. Give you a chance to save them or have them die as part of the final battle. Instead of three choices, you have to fight to win banish the Reapers. Or lose. Like the suicide mission from two, if people die in the final battle they are dead. Including Sheppard. You go into that battle with the army you have made instead of finding random fleets and teams on planets.

And when you did get to the area of the Citadel where you launch the Crucible, you still find the Illusive Man. And he does have control of the Reapers. But he wants to dominate the Galaxy. So when the Crucible is activated, you send the reapers back and also the Illusive Man. Who now that he has control can skip the 50,000 year cycle and re-group the Reapers for a new attack. That would have been an ending. And it would have opened the door to extend the series.

[Yodagamer]

People complain about the ending, ea tryings to fix the ending people still complain, wtf