Nvidia’s new high end graphics card kicks AMD’s offering in the teeth
AMD has long been the best value option if you're looking for a new GPU. Now even their latest Radeon RX 7000 series is getting cheaper.
Nvidia DLSS 3.7 is the latest update to the long-running AI upscaling technology, and it further shows native performance doesn't matter.
I think hardware development is at a point where they need to figure out how to draw less power, These beefy high end cards eat wattage, and I'm curious if using DLSS & AI in general will lower the power draw. It would seem like the days of just adding more VRAM & horsepower is over. Law of diminishing returns. Pretty soon DLSS/FSR will be incorporated into everything, and eventually the tech will be good enough to hardly notice a difference if at all. AI is the future and it would be foolish to turn around and not incorporate it at all. Reliance on AI is only going to pick up more & more.
PS4 Pro had dedicated hardware in it for supporting checkerboard rendering that was used significantly in PS4 first party titles, so you don't need to look to PC or even modern PC gaming. The first RTX cards released nearly 6 years ago, so how many nails does this coffin need?
Almost deaf person:
- lightweight portable 5$, speakers of 0,5cm diameter are the final nail in coffin of Hi-Fi audio!
Some people in 2010:
- smartphones are the final nain in the console gaming's coffin!
This is just the same.
AI upscalling is complete dogshit in terms of motion quality. The fact that someone is not aware of it (look at the deaf guy example) doesn't mean the flaws are not there. They are. And all it takes to see them, is to use a display that handles motion well, so either gets true 500fps at 500Hz LCD TN or OLED (or faster tech) or uses low persistence mode (check blurbusters.com if you don't know what it means) also known as Black Frame Insertion or backlight strobing.
Also, image ruined by any type of TAA is just as "native image" as chineese 0,5$ screwdriver is "high quality, heavy duty, for professional use". It's nowhere near it. But if you're an ignorant "journalist", you will publish crap like this article, just to flow with the current.
There's no coffin to native res quality and there never will be. Eventually, we'll have enough performance in rasterization to drive 500fps, which will be a game changer for motion quality while also adding other benefit - lower latency.
And at 500fps, the amount of time required for upscalling makes it completely useless.
This crap is only usable for cinematic stuff, like cutscenes and such. Not for gaming. Beware of ignorants on the internet. The TAA is not "native" and the shitty look of the modern games when you disable any TAA, is not "native" either as it's ruined by the developer's design choice - you can cheat by rendering every 4th pixel when you plan to put a smeary TAA pass on it later on. When you disable it, you will see a ruined image, horrible pixellation and other visual "glitches" but it is NOT what native would've looked like if you'd like to honestly compare the two.
Stay informed.
How much VRAM is standard today? My laptop has a 1080p QLED display but only an Intel Iris Xe with 128MB of VRAM. I currently do all my gaming on it but certain titles do suffer because of it. I plan on getting a Steam Deck OLED soon to play the newer and more demanding titles.
Aleksha writes: "Nvidia has established itself as a dominant force in the world of AI, but I can't shake the worry of what this means for the RTX 50 series."
Echo sentiment here - I think the way GPUs are going, gaming could be secondary to deep learning. Wonder if the 40 series was the last true generation of GPUs?
You also need to consider that NVIDIA are heavily invested in cloud gaming. So they are likely going to make moves to push you into yet another life subscription service.
NVIDIA will never change their price point until AMD or intel makes a GPU that is comparable and cheaper than them .
it happend before in the days of gtx280 which they changed the price from 650$ to 450$ in a matter of 2 weeks because of rx4870 which is being sold at 380$.
most unbiased trusted reviewers stated that amds most powerful and nvidias most powerful were on par. Amd won some benchmarks and nvidia won some but both cards have their pros and cons and im still desiding which one to buy. Amd has 1gb more vram so it should perform better across a few monitors and at higher resolutions but nvidia has 3d vision. I wish i could try out 3d vision somewhere before actually making the damn decision and eyefinity is nice but i'd prefer to have one larger monitor.
Your 100% correct there very little differnce and what the odd % is comming from nvidia topping the amd 7970 Is basicly because of the self overclock funtion the 680 has over the 7970.
Now if amd had this feature maybe we get slightly differnt results.
The 680 isn't even the high end card and its doing justice against the 7970. I'll never buy another AMD card because of the lack of driver support for many of the new games released.
Very little difference, however when you do look at the benchmarks in the more high profile games Nvidia does appear to have the advantage. As stated NYC_Gamer; I'll be going with Nvidia because of driver support. I'm holding out for a possible 4GB version for next month or I'll just pick up a version which is already available.
Oh you mean gtx next card the twin gpu card... Cos thats the only one comming btw have you met the 7990
if you beleave the gtx 680 isnt there high end single gpu then i hate to see price of next one seeming at the price of the gtx680 is or was same as the gtx580 witch was there fastest single gpu.
I think gtx do what AMD done bring lower cards out now leave the twin gpu card last.
Look at it this way m8 if there pricing there cards just over £400 can you honistly tell me they have another single GPU higher than gtx680 at what cost £500 thats nutz
But dont forget looking at benchmarks is ok but in game that counts not numbers..
As stated gtx has self overclock amd7970 at stock doesnt soo gonna have the edge.
Just stating mate desnt add up.