PlayStation 4: 13 Features required for Sony’s Triumphant come-back

Is Sony ready to offer what it takes for a triumphant come-back as the leader in Console game business ?

With so much speculation regarding the development of Next generation of consoles, it’s definitely worth considering what might be in store for us when it comes to Sony’s next big leap in the console business, the PlayStation 4.

These are quite possibly the most anticipated 13 features that every hardcore gamer desperately wants to be included in the Next generation Sony Console.

[geniusgamerdoc]

For me all that matters is the Stable Framerate, Backward compatibility, HTML 5 Web browser and re-designed joystick.

[CarlitoBrigante]

Lol reason 4:

"though Sony have been very successful in designing great looking consoles and Handhelds which are also very stable when it comes to sheer performance and durability, it’s really time for them to design a great design as well as to shove their habit of releasing a Slimmer version after a Couple of year down the road. Instead it would be better to design a slim console at launch itself without it becoming an afterthought."

Does this guy even know what he's talking about?! The point of releasing Slimmer versions of consoles is because it wasn't possible at launch. With components becoming cheaper and smaller they're able to make their console smaller. This guy probably thinks releasing Slim version years later is a marketing trick lol.

[mewhy32]

redesign the controller to be more like the xbox 360's, offer more developer friendly hardware design, redesign PSN to more resemble Xbox Live, do a major updrage to the Blu Ray drive's seek times and throughput.

[SheenuTheLegend]

lolz is this a article?

[sikbeta]

lol @ reason 4, yep, because it has nothing to do with the thing being designed to avoid heat problems at all (e_e)

[Sarick]

Redesign the controller? NO..
I disagree unless it has the option to chose what spot the hat/left analog is on. Meaning, you can move the analog to where the d-pad is or leave it whee L3 is on PS3.

This way gamers can choose where thy want the left analog vs forcing everyone into the same design.

[Ulf]

"stable framerate" -- competely under the control of software, NOT hardware.

"Backward compatibility" -- I'm sure the PS3 will still be available, and not many people want to pay $100 extra for a feature they will rarely use.

"Re-designed joystick" -- the DualShock is the BEST controller in existence, and a LOT of PlayStation fans agree. The one, and ONLY thing better about, for example, the 360 controller, is the easy-to-use- triggers. If changing the curve of L2 & R2 somewhat, is what you mean, than I suppose I can agree.

[sknygy]

To start with this article is poorly written.

"Sony are really good at making Controller compared any other controller till date."

Oh my!

Second of all, I have to disagree. I've always found the Dual Shock to be the least comfortable and definitely the least attractive controller, except perhaps the original Xbox. My favourite controller of all time, with regards to comfort, has to be the GameCube pad (or even WaveBird). It melted into your hands.
I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but my favourite controller for actual control style has to be the Wii Remote. FPS's have never been so enjoyable. :)

[mcstorm]

For me sony need a new joypad design as its getting old now and its also too small for my hands. I think the only other things they should do are bring the console out at around £250 bring out lbp 3 lbp karting, uc4 gt6 and a new ms game all having full mp and party chat. They also need to make the updates quicker and installs quicker too. If you still have to install the games make sure it has at lest a 500gb hdd. If they do that plus keep what the ps3 now has it will sell well.

Looking at my psv sony are looking at doing that.

[hiredhelp]

Youll never get stable framerate average trame rate differs per game..
USB 3.0 ha ha ok pointless but ok. Blue ray 100gb? You mean blue ray XL well apart from few games this gen thats used a 50gb blue ray notsure if its needed.
Dual hdmi for co-op was ot split screen eaither way at this point im wondering who wrote this..
8x AA well if you going there all i can hope for is console gamers get dx11.

[BrunoM]

i like the ideas ... AS LONG AS THEY DONT MESS WTH MY DUALSHOCK3 lol....

[mathsman]

Put the analogue stick in the right place. More games use analogue than digital these days, why does digital still have priority placement?!

[KUV1977]

The 'right place' is kind of an opinion, isn't it? For me the sticks are in a perfect position. What you consider as 'the right' place couldn't be more wrong for me.

[mathsman]

What, in the natural position that your thumb rests? Yeah, OK. ;)

[KUV1977]

I don't know about your hands but my thumbs feel pretty natural on the stick while still having great grip of the whole controller. Moving the thumb more to the upper left side of the controller would be way more cramp inducing for me and not natural at all. Still in the end i guess one could get used to it but for me it's really at an optimum the way it is.

[Biggest]

"What, in the natural position that your thumb rests?"

I'm not sure about you, but human thumbs rest where they're placed. Care to explain why one human thumb should be placed differently than the other?

[sikbeta]

IF you don't want the sticks to be changed, at least make them more comfortable, I want a bigger controller, the thing is made for kids and the L2+R2 pedal-buttons are annoying (hate them in GOW games), though useful in GT5 :D

[JellyJelly]

@KUV1977 - Ergonomically correct/incorrect isn't an opinion.

[gamingdroid]

@JellyJelly

I agree. To the vast majority of people, ergonomic isn't preferential. It just is!

One might prefer to sit slouching, but it certainly isn't ergonomic!

[KUV1977]

No, it certainly is not but I would like to see the study that proves the analogue stick on the upper left to be more ergonomic than in the position it is right now. Just because some people feel that it is more ergonomic doesn't mean it is automatically the truth. And unless there is objective proof for the better position it remains an opinion.
Just try the controller in your hand and place the thumb on the controllers as they are right now. Then try it on the digital pad and then watch your thumb as you do. The position as it is right now seems much more relaxed to me. And it feels also as if you could play much longer in that position - actually personal case studies have proven that I can play in that position for hours without fatigue or cramps. But notice how I use the word 'seems' as I can not speak for all of human kind as it is just the way I feel and as long as you don't have real proof that the thumb stick in any other position is more ergonomic I suggest you don't use 'absolute facts' like that and call whatever you prefer your opinion until backed up by proof.

[SandwichHammock]

I second that, the placement and the controller are perfect for me, but then again I grew up with the Playstation. The only stab I have against the controllers is the quality. There is a huge difference in the controllers from the original FATs to the ones that are available now. Obvious shoddy plastic is obvious.

As for the article. I didn't know Sony needed a comeback. To what does this relate: sales? market share? pants?

The only "features" I want in the next playstation (for all next gen consoles for that matter) is better physics and the TOTAL elimination of any type of pop in, be it texture or geometry.

Back to my morning bagel.

Cheers.

[Tonester925]

Maybe put more weight into the controllers. Hmmm Gun Metal controllers?

[xRyan]

Sony needs to reinvent their online gaming comment with the PS4 ... come close to Xbox Live will give them more hardware sales.

[TheUnbiasedLion]

There is nothign wrong with sony's online gaming. Plus the fact that it is free is a real winner for me.

I do like my XBL but tbh PSN wins overal litrally cause its free and offers basically the same experience.

[CarlitoBrigante]

PSN is all I need, I dont want to pay 60 dollaz to play online function of my purchased game.

All Sony needs to do is revamp the XMB so its more social friendly. The Vita storted it out, it even has X game chat.

[RememberThe357]

Though you got swamped with disagrees by overly sensitive fanboys, your right. Sony has been working on their network to get it on the level of Live. Ask any Sony employee and they'll tell you that Live is a more interactive platform, maybe not "better" but it has more interactive features. The next gen is going to need to be even more interactive and Sony is going to need to capitalize on that to recapture the 50 million people they lost to the 360.

Sony has the games (for the most part), but next gen they really need to show that they have the network and the OS to help people connect and interact. The more you can tear down the walls space puts between us the more popular your product will be.

And in my honest opinion all the people who claim they don't want anything more than what they have now are out of their minds. Not only that but Sony will deliver on everything these people claim they don't want and they'll act like they never knew how they lived without it.

[xRyan]

Its glad to see someone who knows what they are talking about. PSN is good, but currently it cannot compete with Xbox Live. Sony needs to reinvent their online network with more features so that they can get back the core online players. If they do that, PS4 sales will be so much greater than PS3, and Xbox 360. Sony has the games, and the hardware ... they just need a better online community ... even if we have to pay for it.

Fanboys will be fanboys, so no arguing with them. They will disagree with you also even though you talk the truth.

[DragonKnight]

If someone didn't get a PS3 because it has one or two less features than Live, they didn't want the console to begin with. PSN doesn't have to compete with Live since it offers pretty much everything Live does, is easy to navigate, and is free. PSN only has to compete with itself and do things on its own. If you think core gamers aren't happy with PSN, then you're speaking for people you shouldn't be and you're not paying attention.

Would more features be good. Sure. Are they crucial? Not by a long shot. A gaming console shouldn't be more like a PC when its main purpose is playing games. I don't need facebook to play games, I don't need 3901248712390482374 different chat features to play games, and that's just a fact.

[BitbyDeath]

They already did it on the Vita so no doubt that'll carry over to the PS4 as well.

[Disccordia]

They are already on the right path. Just need some slight changes to that controller and invest heavily on creating a quality operating system and they are pretty much set.

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

Next Gen consoles are gonna be so freaking powerful. Just looking at the WII U you can tell. It can do 1080p at 60fps so you know the next xbox and ps4 are gonna go higher than that. Even the new Ipad can produce resolutions higher than HD tv's and it's portable O.o. The next generation consoles are gonna be bleeding edge. Talking about 4k resolutions and 300 fps. TV's are just barely getting there but of course sony will use the ps4 as a trojan horse to get those new tv's into people's living rooms.

[limewax]

lol really? 4k rez at 300FPS? would that be with games in DX11?

You do realise you would need something like this to make that possible right?

http://www.cray.com/Product...

Seriously I have no idea where you get the idea of 4k at 300FPS from. You think your eyes would even be able to register a full 300FPS?

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

the current generations of consoles (which is 7 years old) highest resolution is over 2million pixels. The new Ipad's resolution is over 3million and it's a freaking portable. Technology moves faster than people care to realize. There are already cameras that support 4k resolution videos (they're expensive as heck but they exist. Sony just shipped there $65k true 4k camera in January). Youtube currently is the only website that hosts 4k resolution videos. By the time next generation starts the cost of the tech will have dropped. And even if they don't use true 4k res there is still "fake" 4k or even 2k. But it's gonna happen.

[I_am_Batman]

What the ...? Again this 4k thing. Now once and for all: That's not gonna happen. Do you even know how much processing power you need to render 300fps in 4k? It means the graphic processor needs to render over 12,000,000 pixel 300 times a second. It would need a 30 times more powerful processor to do that than to render 1080p in 60fps with the same details. 4k TV's make no sense for home usage. You would only see a difference if the TV has an over 60" display.

I agree that we need at least 60fps standard if we want to see high quality 3d games in the next generation. But there is no need to go beyond 1080p. It would just be a waste of processing power which could be used for a lot of fantastic things instead.

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

what the heck are you talking about. Youtube already hosts 4k resolutions on their website. There are already cameras out there that can record in 4k. Prolly not at 300fps but then again they're portable.

[RyuCloudStrife]

PS4 will do that I'm so certain of it I'm willing to pay cash. You think the PS3 was a supercomputer? The PS4 will be beyond imagining I CANNOT FUCKING WAIT~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[limewax]

I normally wouldn't respond to such a comment but just so you know, supercomputers are humongous, much bigger than a PC, or a TV, in fact you would have trouble fitting one in your living room. So no, no Sony product is or ever will be a supercomputer.

I love Sony products but seriously people, you need to brush up on tech before commenting about it

[AKA]

woW how low standart pc nerds have im ashame of them 4k is the next big thing and sony will go for it.
disagree all you want if that helps you to sleep happy but they have already show 4k tv and even gt4 was running on it at 4k resolition or near it..

[BuffMordecai]

Sony just need to bring the games and drop the casual crap next gen, since Microsoft is dropping the ball like never before.

[ZippyZapper]

"Microsoft is dropping the ball like never before."

Yet they are ahead while Sony plays catch up to MS and Nintendo on all fronts.

[RememberThe357]

Defenses down for a moment. How many exclusives did MS offer last year?

MS is rationing games right now and it blows, be honest with yourself.

[Resistance_lord]

Troll Troll Troll your boat.

[BitbyDeath]

@Zippy, Sony are beating MS.

Sony have more users online and more active consoles in houses.

Dead 360's don't get you game sales.

[Jreca]

1080p 60fps is clearly overrated. It doesn't depend on the machine, it depends on the software, so please investigate a little. doing 1080p 60fps is actually possible in current generation if you don't mind the visual quality of the game, as computing a 1080p image in a 1/60s can't be done in a complex image.

Next generation will find new techniques that will blow the actual limits, and some of them will need high computing cost. A lot of developers will then drop the fps or the resolution in order to get a better looking game. Don't forget it, it's about getting the right image and not the right framerate/resolution.

[KUV1977]

It's really kind of weired how a lot of people judge graphics just by resolution and framerate. I take 720p/30fps with quality artwork and details/effects any time over some 1080p/60fps bland and empty world.

I also highly doubt that the WiiU will provide 1080p/60fps for a lot of titles as some suggest. If the WiiU really handles Darksiders2 and Assassins Creed 3 in 1080p/60fps at the quality that the screenshots (High End PC definately) suggest I will immediately sell my PS3 and buy a WiiU. Thankfully the risk for that to happen is extremely low.

[TheUnbiasedLion]

whats wrong with the XMB, its simple and very easy to use, I love it :D

everything on the list is a standard, i predicted most of what was on the list.

[geniusgamerdoc]

XMB is cool. But feels dated and lacks that eye candy appeal. Personally I prefer the UI of Vita

[JBSleek]

You console games make no sense. You want a cutting edge machine that has all these features but aren't willing to pay for it. You want a console that cost around 400-500 bucks yet you want native 1080p and a steady 60fps. The iPad cost 500 and that should be the least these cutting edge machines that will run Unreal 4.

[I_am_Batman]

I bet that the WiiU won't cost 500 bugs and will be able to run UE4. The thing about apple stuff is that it's really overpriced. They have more competitors but they still dominate the market. Compared to the console market the tablet and smartphone market is way bigger and apple sells unbelievable amount of ipads at that pricepoint so why should they offer it to a lower price.

[JBSleek]

Wii-U at the most will run a light version of Unreal 4. Unreal 4 shatters Samaritian demo and that takes a 500 buck GPU to run, the 680. The reality of the matter is console games have unreal expectations about what is gonna be in these consoles and still want a reasonable price point. At the most we will be looking at native 1080p with steady 30fps.

I am looking toward to next generation of consoles but let's be real.

[I_am_Batman]

This is a reply to your second post:

It may need a 500 buck GPU to run Unreal 4 now but by the time ps4 and next xbox are out it won't be that expensive. Also you forget that console manufacturers are buying an immense amount of the same hardware for there console so they won't nearly pay as much for that GPU as we are. Before the PS3 was released some people have thought it would come with a pricepoint as high as 1200US$ just because the components were so expensive. A simple Blu-Ray player was more expensive than the PS3 at that time.

Also Sony is pushing 3D so the'll need at least a steady 60fps to get high quality 3D games. Don't get me wrong I'm not the kind of console gamer that has unreal expectations to the next gen (read my reply to "Exgamerlegends" above) but Sony and Microsoft won't release a new console before some features will be affordable for them.

[Persistantthug]

you need a 2 TERAFLOP GPU....actually that was Epic who said that.

But according to BEYOND3D guys, they claim that Sony is in fact looking at 2TFLOP units from AMD......The AMD HD 7870.

We don't really know, but that does sound about right and reasonable balpark estimate for 2014.

[JBSleek]

You need 2.5 TERAFLOP GPU to run Unreal Engine 3.5 aka Samaritan so I'm sure Unreal 4 will take 3+

Source: http://pixelsmashers.com/?p...

And those are only rumors that Sony is using AMD and a graphic card wasn't even named.

And I am going to guess PS4/NextBox release in 2013 together.

2014 and it may be too late for Sony because the Wii-U would have had 2 years and NextBox possibly 1.

Sony is a bleeding company and going all out isn't exactly a viable option this time.

You are also forgetting they need a decent CPU, Big Hard drive, Good Ram, And need to leave room for some profit down the line.

This will be very interesting and I'm excited what these console manufactures will do next.

[thebudgetgamer]

All I want are fun games with a little smoother frame-rate.

[DragonKnight]

This exact list of features was posted months ago. This article is a copy paste. *Sigh*

[sly-Famous]

"Triumphant come-back"???
PS3 has been dominating for the last 4 years. The wii had a very very quick start but has fallen heavily of the pace, and the xbox has been overwhelmed by the PS3 to such an extent that the 10mil headstart it was allowed, has shrunk to almost nothing. Can anyone imagine what would have happened to the xbox if the PS3 had a year head start? it would have gone the exact same direction as the original xbox, obsolete.

[Redcrimson101]

Shaking my head. Trying to save Sony I see. The fact of the matter is no matter what they do I don't think Sony can make a come back, or at least it will be very hard. People just have to accept the fact that Sony had their time. They ruled for two generations and offered nothing new but just better gfx while nintendo and ms came with new and innovative way to play games which made it more appealing to the masses. Ala xbox live, achievements, loads of apps, cross game chat and nintendo offers the wii mote, balance board I mean shall I continue?

All Sony did was just make expensive hard wear with better gfx. Gaming has expo ded way beyond that. Nintendo stressed that we need more than just good gfx and more of new ways to play to attract non gamers like the cell phones and tablets are doing.

The only way I see Sony coming back (which would be really hard and i don't see them coming back) is if they keep making powerful hardware but at an affordable compartment price lime nintendo. Also they'll have to be more creative and innovative with their own style without having to copy off nintendo an ms like the have been doing (and not doing a good job at it either)and they'll be ok.

[sly-Famous]

LOL Denial much?

[Persistantthug]

Just Sayin.

*goes back to STARHAWK beta*

:)

[Redcrimson101]

As for the vita, which I may say is my favorite and most played system at the moment, is a wonderful piece of hardware is suffering the same fate as the os3 when first came because it is expensive. Way more than the os3 and that is sad. I guess the didn't learn from nintendo with the 3ds. U have a $250 system with a pointless $300 system the. U have to consider u need another $60- $100 for a decent memory card and a few games which is going to cost u $40 a piece and we all know you're going to want more games. This alone puts the price way beyond the ps3 and that's why it's not doing to well especially in japan. It's sad to the point where they're getting beat out by an inferior system with inferior gfx and with a smaller screen and a lower price point. I'm not even an analyst and I can see why Sony is failing bad. Sony needs to better price their hardware and they'll be Alrite. I see them going the way of sega for making the same silly mistakes.

[MasterA]

Backwards compatibility is now more important than ever. Otherwise PS3 games with thriving online communities will slowly die. PS3 games are more connected with online-play, user generated content and add-ons. Isolating the PS3 and its games would kill longterm investments for any title. iOS is a perfect example on how to migrate your past purchased and data to a new platform.

[maniacmayhem]

I wouldn't get my hopes up with the BC for ps3 part.
;)

[MasterA]

That's why I'm going all digital with Vita games.

[Redcrimson101]

I read someone's comment in here saying that the os3 has been outselling the ps3 for years. That's a big fat lie and I know only I die hard Sony fan would make up lies just like that. Well, let me tell u something Sony fan, men lie women lie numbers don't. If Sony was really outselling the xbox for 4years they would've had more units sold than xbox worlwide which they don't. Google it. Xbox 67 mil ps3 64 mill. Since when is 64 mire than 67? Where did u learn to count? Can u even count? U said it backwards, the xbox has been outselling the ps3 not only for the last couple of years but for the last coupon if months. Google it, and let's nit talk about black Friday where no one couldn't find an xbox especially myself but everywhere I went I saw ps3's in those big blue boxes piled high to the sky packed in with uncharted3(which was the worst uncharted game ever and didn't even sell lol) was just sitting there on store floors with people walking buy them looking for an xbox with the kinect bundle. Stop coming on here lying topsoils talking about Sony been outselling xbox because it hasn't.

You were right about one thing though, if ps3 came out first and maybe with a lower price point, it would've been ps2 all over again. Ms knew his that's why the came out first and they had a better marketing strategy than Sony. They came out first, the created a few exclusive games that wasn't on the ps3 at the time and they bought all of the exclusive games that was once only on sony's platform to be on their system aka devil may cry, gta and others not to mention better online a better controller cross game chat and more. Ms strategy clearly made it possible for xbox to beat Sony to a "t" and they couldn't do anything about but just sit back and watch ms dominate. All Sony did in retaliation was make up excuses and lies talking about we r selling more. Well the sales doesn't say that. Sorry

[Dante112]

@ Red

??? Answer me this question. If the ps3 hasn't been outselling the 360 in the past years, how did the 360's 10 million unit lead shrink to 3 million? Btw, are you American because I want to ask you a question about a game's servers on Live where you live.

[CaptainCamper]

Great article, a really good read.

[b_one]

lol, comeback? where they rule at all :)

[one2thr]

*Dont necessarily need a 100gb Blu-ray, my understanding is that they need to make the read times faster....
*Better multi-tasking abilities, I remember being able to press the home button without any movies/videos stopping in the background
*A seperate RAM configuration about 128-512MB of fast ram for, a Playstation 4 specific pre-installed onboard screen capturing software for both VIDEO and SCREEN SHOTS<--Maybe two extra buttons (small buttons on both sides of Home button)
*Backwards Compatibility<-- must have
*1-2gb of System Ram<--We witnessed what was possible with 256 of Ram and 256 of VRAM with an OS that had/has a bigger footprint than its competition, any more would be over kill, but the more the merrier...
*Can accept up to 8 controllers, 7 was an odd number...
*Bring back the touch sensitive buttons<-- stand out by design
*Jazzy tone made specifically for the user interface, somewhat similar to the PSVITA's.....
*Backwards compatibility with PS3 attachments (PS eye, MOVE, etc.)
*And being able to play any and all unrestricted VIDEO/MUSIC/PHOTO formats (even animated "gif" images)
*A dynamic theme generator for user created themes...
*Maybe an lcd display about 3 inches that is directly on the system for various usages....
Well thats all I can think of, for the next gen Playstaion Home console.... Possibly known as PS4

[Raoh]

1. Pricing: This is partly true. Sony should make devices more price accessible BUT name 1 sony device that's considered cheap? Also SMH@ you "360 is cheaper" guys from launch.

360 had no hdmi, wifi, linux option, free online, high def player, bluetooth, card reader, browser, movie software, pic album and you thought they should be priced the same?

It's like comparing kinect to pseye, true they are in the same genre, but if its based on release, you compare the pseye to 360 vision cam, kinect was 360s 2nd camera, pseye is still ps3's 1st

2. Media bar: Hard call,I like the media bar but it could take a page from the vita, maybe a mix between the two

3. WiiU like interactivity/KINECT-like built in features: Remote play? Cross Platform Play? Transference (ala kojima)PS VITA vs PS3 games already here, very small library but here. There is also cross play between MOVE/DS3 and in some cases keyboard and mouse support.

4. Innovative Console design: ?? really? shouldn't this be something for all devices in general? I don't see anything innovative out any of the console makers out there.

5. NEAR and Cross game chat: The writer needs to do research. The issue is memory of which the vita has more of, expect this in the ps4 and for free unlike the 360. XChat is overrated anyway, I want you talking to me if your in my squad not your friend from school about which teacher hates you.

6. Great lineup of AAA Launch titles: LMFAO, outside of nintendo SONY has THE best exclusives that can't be found anywhere, most of the 360 exclusives I play on my pc or I can wait for the contract to expire and get it on ps3 later.

7. Redesigned PS Store: no argument there.

8. Advanced Tech and Hardware specs: Arguable what people want for a cheap price is ridiculous at times. People just don't know what it takes to run a company or put out competitive hardware. This request made by the writer negates his first request for affordable pricing at launch.

9. Dual Shock 4 with revamped L2 and R2 Triggers: GTFOH the 360 controller being better is an opinion. I like the ps3 layout with a 360 size. the swapped out sticks on the 360 is not always better. This is my favorite controller http://www.amazon.com/Logit... best controller ever, sony should buy the design from logitech. leave the layout alone not everyone thinks the 360 design is great, it actually hurts my left thumb after long play times.

10: Full Backward compatibility with PS3 games including purchased PSN content: LMFAO, I wish but again people need to understand how difficult it is to develop and go back and redevelop for new technology, why isn't everyone asking ms for full backward compatibility for all xbox games to support kinect?

11. Smart Launch window: one year is not late, not really, at launch of the ps3, most games came out for the 360, wii, pc, ps3 and........ the ps2. early games don't mean much outside of exclusives and exclusives features dictated by hardware. Had ms not tried to screw sony with hd dvd, sony could have rode the ps2 out for a while and released much later and been fine.

12. A Better web Browser: no arguments there.

13. Every game should support 1080p and run @60fps: Hard to argue, truth is it is a debate. Sure who doesn't want this, but pc gamers sometimes have to run games on modest settings to get the best performance, also games that are multiplatform need to be the same across the board, throw in the wii u and LOL at your request. Many games run at 720p at 30fpg and run great. Also LOL at early 360 adopters with no hdmi to enjoy the 1080p.

[gypsygib]

Playstation will never dominate like it did with PS1 and PS2, Sony decimated the competition during those gens - both times knocking some player out of the console business.

People need to get over it, PS3 has done very well but don't expect Playstation to completely eliminate the competition again.

If the only way for "to come back" is to control 80% of the console market again, then Sony will never "come back".

It's my opinion that Sony never left, it's not like they sold 20 million consoles like Gamecube or Xbox number last gen - PS3 is neck and neck in the core market, it did well.

Anyone thinking Playstation is going to be the only system that sells again like PS2 is dreaming, anyone thinking that unless Sony decimates the competition it has failed is delusional.

[THC CELL]

You will eat your words the ps4 will be easy to develop for and take gaming like PS2 days where games will come out for fun. Vita is going to have loads to offer as well. I am sure the next Xbox will die quicker than the current Xbox Wii u will fail also apple won't get a chance.

[geniusgamerdoc]

Everything will be fine until and unless PS4 comes out soon after xbox720 if not sooner. No more 1 year lead for MS.

[pbasson]

Mate u sed the words right outta my mouth, what the PS2 the PS3 can never be, & the PS4 never will be. Just look at PSVITA, where is news on it now. iPad 3 stole all its thunder.

[DFresh]

Good list.
I also think button remapping needs to be standard for every game.
Also the L2 & R2 buttons need to go back to what the PS1/PS2 was on those consoles.

[Conzul]

Am I the only one in the world who doesn't care about price? I'm not even "well to do"!! People seem to forget that these consoles have a 6-8 yr lifespan. Think about it - that's about a 6th (guessing) of the total time you'll be alive and inclined to play games in the first place! How would you NOT want to shell out a bit more for more features?

Anyway, I hope that Sony makes a higher-tier model (FULL BC, SSD, more USB slots, etc). I'd get it if it were $800. You know why? Because it's worth it, just so I can have faster loading screens & not have to keep a Ps2, Ps3 AND Ps4 on my wall mount *all* *at* *the* *same* *time*

Flame on, bitches!

[myps4]

Can we hope to at least get a glimpse of the PS4 or xbox 720 at this year's E3?

JRpgs are totally dead this gen. Hopefully this gen at least the Psvita should have ample amount of role playing games.

[gypsygib]

Sony would be smart to show some glimpse PS4 at E3. MS is going to focus on Halo 4 and Kinect and not show any 720 and it will take thunder away from Wii U.

[madjedi]

"JRpgs are totally dead this gen." Not even close, this ps3 is alot weaker in the jrpg market than the ps2 was i grant you that, but totally dead wtf ever.

I have several jrpgs i haven't even finished completely, and other i have yet to play.

[ParanormalGamer]

I see how this topic is going..
Some of you are saying that Sony should not even bother that it will never get back to its roots in being on top.

Truth of the matter is .. I as a gamer Love how things are going now.. That PS3 and 360 are neck and neck. Making them work harder for my hard earn money. Bring better content to the table and leave the BS at the door..

What I want to see in the New Playstation 4 is More memory and a Way bigger hard drive since gaming is going the digital way.
Make the control not like the 360 but close because when it comes to shooters the 360's is the best. I love the PS3 control when it comes to adventure and action games.

Backwards compatibility
Not just with the PS3 but for all 3 versions of Playstation. I miss how the 60 gig version played PS2 games but all because people bitch about the price they had taken it out.. That sucks..

PS4 to Sony Vita connect.
Make it easy.. Give games that take these hardware to new heights. Do things that has never been done before with these. Make gaming better and more connected..

XBOX Liveish system.
One of the things that made 360 what it is today is what it had in XBOX Live and all the things that came with it.
Cross Game Chat. Buddie in game chat and more.. Some Of if not all has been asked to be put into PS3..

But with all said and done I do not care who wins this war.. The only real winner who comes out of this is Us the gamers. So Stop bitching what system is better and just enjoy the damn games already..

[Godmars290]

For Sony to make a "come-back" they have to practically shutout everyone else.

Yes they're in 3rd place, but more than often the 1st place Wii is ignored while 2nd place Xbox 360 is two million ahead of 3rd place PS3.

Put that versus 80+ million lead the PS2 had over XBox and the NGC. How the PS1 quickly outpaced the N64 and expanded the market which eventually got MS's attention.

That kind of lead is never going to happen again. For anyone.

[acemonkey]

i couple agree with..i would like to see cross gaming chat "party chats" but sometimes that can be annoying as hell.... i dont wanna see wii U or kinect stuff

[pbasson]

Mate Ur asking to much from a company that aint going to deliver half of these things & less. MS aint much better than Sony but aleast they did one thing right they got gaming on lock, it didnt have best graphics etc bullshit. But as a gaming machine it was better than PS3, as it wasnt till 2 yrs & many price cuts did the PS3 start to sell. If Sony didnt try and con people with their blu ray & trying to rip MS off every so called time from 'Home' to 'Trophies' etc. Sony makes too many waste investments then complain 'We lose £XX money per unit sold' thats ur fault not ours we aint interested. I used to be a Sony fan boy but I turned my back on all of them gaming is not what it used to be it is all about greed & exploitation of customers trust & money. Apple isnt any better but aleast they moving the evolution of technology forward.

[Hicken]

So your argument on why the 360 is a better gaming machine is that it sold better? And, given how things have changed in units sold, how long did that last?

How is Blu Ray a con? Even at the time, how was a $600 Blu Ray player in a market of $1000 players a con?

What is Home a ripoff of? What does the 360 have that's like Home? Trophies, by the way, are older than the original Xbox. Star Ocean, for example, had them, and that was a PS2 exclusive.

You've never been a Sony fanboy. Don't lie. And don't dare talk of greed and mention Apple or Microsoft as if they're not at the top of the list. Sony's out to make their money, but as you yourself said, they take massive losses up front. Why?

For gamers. The PS3 had a rough start, but it's been nothing but consistent since. I dunno who you're backing, but your reasons for bashing Sony are pathetic.

[Flewid638]

Development tech that's easy for Devs to use.

The whole "let's make a complicated machine and justify its awesomeness by making it hard to code for" needs to be thrown out.

Otherwise, keep pumping out those 1st party titles. THAT, they shouldn't change.

[vikingland1]

Change the controller the thumb sticks should be concaved not a rounded type. My thumbs allways slip.

[InklingGirl]

What PSN/SEN needs is better organization of your previous downloads in categories so we can better view them instead of a list.

I want to be able to go back to a PS2 game for example and find it in seconds not multi minutes.

[Tommy334]

PS3 can do everything on this list.

[Staude]

No ! Don't switch around my d-pad and my analogue ! I like them where they are :P

[nobiggy]

What controller is that?

Edit: Nevermind found it

[C0MPUT3R]

60FPS I would love, but realistically it's just not feasible.
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Devs would rather spend those extra 30FPS resources adding extra effects and higher quality textures.
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I think a great compromise would be 40FPS that way when the frame rate takes a dip
it stays above 30.

[theeg]

1080p Minimum EVERY game

30-60 frames Minimum EVERY game, if a game dips under 30 for more than a second or two every few min....send it back for optimization

4-16x anti aliasing Minimum EVERY game

I'll buy one with those guarentees, its why i pc game now, i hate all the crappy framerates, jaggies and sub-hd garbage on consoles now, Dark Souls was the only console game I enjoyed all 2011, uc3 was a letdown and gameplay/control and graphically inferior to uc2 in every way, gears 3 was more of the same and everything else was on pc in glorious graphical perfection!