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5 features the next console generation needs

The next console generation is right around the corner, and rumors are piling high. Now, will the next generation deliver, or be completely unprepared? Danny Luksa of ButtonMasher.tv looks at a list of five things that the next console generation needs in order to succeed.

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gypsygib4429d ago

If next gen consoles support 4k expect the games to look like 4k PS2 games.

Gaming1014428d ago

You would need a massive tv to see the difference between 1080P and 4K, and especially 8K, this will only be pertinent for people with 60 inch plus TV's

T9004428d ago

The author of the article is a complete moron. He has no idea how tech works.

He wants:

Multicore tech support - I agree

High density disc - I agree

4K Support- Hes delusional if he thinks 4K support is needed. He himself said its rendering at 2x of 1080p, where will the power come from?

Revised graphics- Now to point out why the author has no idea about tech. Sure you can push the GPUs to 925mhz however with the restrictive space in a console this is likely to cause a melt down. Also imagine how much power that will require. Lastly what i find most retarded, he wants to increase memory bandwidth to only 70gb/s lol, Even to run 1080p properly i would think 70GB/S should be the bare minimum. If he thinks consoles should support 4k and then only come with 70GB of memory bandwidth that will just be a joke lol, Its going to choke any game running at that res. Not to mention 1G of memory is sometimes hardly sufficient of 1080p gameplay. For 4k i would think they would atleast need 2GB of video ram.

Increased Storage - I agree

Overall the author is probably a console gamer who has little to no knowledge of how tech works. Imo he should read into PC related articles on how stuff works before making such articles.

hakis864428d ago (Edited 4428d ago )

Come on, the article says 4K VIDEO support.. not 4K games.
I have hopes for 4K video support, 1080p games at 60FPS and of course they need a lot of cores to make this happen.

It will be interesting to see which GPU solution they end up with. I mean if they put in something equivalent to an i7, the CPU part is more than powerful enough, it would really depend on amount (and speed) of RAM and how many cores/how powerful the GPU part will be.

SignifiedSix4429d ago

I'm pretty sure next gen consoles wont be able to support games in 4k. Movies, yes. Games? Hell no.
The most we'll get is 1080p at 30-60 FPS at max wich is good enough for me!

gamingdroid4428d ago (Edited 4428d ago )

It doesn't make sense to support anything higher than 1080p. In fact it would be idiotic to plan for anything above that.

HD alone doesn't have that high of a penetration yet, let alone anything higher.

This article is full of sh!t.

hakis864428d ago

@gamingdroid

I can see your point, however when they decided to support 1080p there were ZERO HDTV's out there...almost. And just look now. Millions of TV's sold every year.

So I have to disagree with you, people will buy 4K displays, just like 10million people will probably buy "the New iPad" this year, just because of higher resolution.

tee_bag2424428d ago

Sure people will buy 4k TV's, but historically people don't upgrade their home theatre/TV at the same speed of each generation of consoles.

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sorceror1714429d ago

The article claims "The average PC gamer is running 8-cores". What CPU are they talking about? The i7-Core (pretty much top of Intel's line until Ivy Bridge comes out in a couple months) only has 4 real cores, and can 'fake' 8 with Hyperthreading. And that's on the pricey side.

A gaming PC with all the hardware the article talks about would cost well over US$2K. Even with volume and economies of scale... Sony and Microsoft would be losing hundreds of dollars, minimum, even if they introduced them at $600 again.

QuodEratDemonstrandm4428d ago

I have four little syllables for you....

Quad-core cell phones

Google the Samsung Galaxy S3.

sorceror1714428d ago

Smartphones are PCs now? I really *am* behind the curve, silly me.

ThanatosDMC4428d ago

I'm getting that on April when my crappy contract is up. T-mobile better support it.

Nicaragua4428d ago

Phones is not a single syllable.

QuodEratDemonstrandm4428d ago

Apparently, sorceror, you haven't noticed the cell phones catching up with the desktop computers, both in terms of processing power and graphics.

Nicaragua, grab a dictionary and look up syllable before you embarrass yourself..... oh wait.

Thanatos, if T-Mobile doesn't have that specific phone, there will be a quad core by summer.

Consoldtobots4428d ago (Edited 4428d ago )

smartphones are a joke until they solve the battery problem. Browse the internet or watch a video and your battery is already at 50%.

and thats with single core phones, how long does a quad core last? past the startup splash screen?

Game3s4428d ago

A smartphones might have a quad core but a very weak quad cores(arm processors), the quad core in PCs are the real deal if they were to put it in a smartphone the battery life would probable be 1/2 a hour if your lucky as well as the heat it would generate would melt the phone.

sorceror1714427d ago

Oh, QED. It's looking like four-core phones were a fad: http://hardware.slashdot.or...

sorceror1714427d ago

One more data point, just for fun: http://store.steampowered.c...

According to Valve, less than half of the PCs in their survey were even at 4 cores. 8 cores is almost invisible on the graph.

QuodEratDemonstrandm4427d ago

@sorceror

Bear with me here. This is some pretty hardcore logic.
The Samsung Galaxy S3 is a quad core cell phone.
This indicates that Samsung has made a cell phone CPU with four cores.
If something has already been done, then it's a foregone conclusion that it is, in fact, possible.

OK, ready? I'm about to make a leap. It's probably a little bigger than the baby steps you're used to.

If 4 cores can be done in a cell phone, then a video game console can manage 8 cores.

Oh and here's another data point for you. 64-core processors are commercially available.
http://www.google.com/searc...

Maybe next time you'll take the time to discern what someone is saying before shooting off an irrelevant reply.

sorceror1714427d ago

QED, you don't seem to be grasping what *I* was saying. I was pointing out that the article was incorrect when it stated that "The average PC gamer is running 8-cores". That is simply not true, given any rational definition of 'average'.

Now, an 8-core console is indeed *possible*. My *other* point was that it's not possible for it to be *cost-effective*.

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denawayne4429d ago

This article fails on so many levels

Skynetone4429d ago

ps3/360 320gb hd This is plenty of storage for just game saves, lol

and with the average pc having 8 cores, lol

hes talking like 4k/8k is the norm

sure we will all go 4k/8k in the future but theres no way next gen consoles will be supporting these resolutions in a gaming environment, unless its pac man or something

mamotte4429d ago

Agree. Next consoles need 16gb of ram, 10 core processors, 4 tb of disc, 2,5 gb of GPU, and a resolution of 8k in 3D. It needs to cost 250 dollars, too.

Now, to end the sarcasm, there's a thing I want in next gen consoles: stability. I dont want fo fear a RROD or a YLOD. What worries me the most, is the fact the it looks like: more power = more failure. The underpowered Wii doesnt suffer a blue line of death...

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5 Of The Best Narrative Twists In Video Games

GL compiles a list of some of the most mind-blowing video game narrative twists in recent memory, from The Last of Us to Outer Wilds

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Mugen Souls Retro Review – Sexy Demon Space Adventure

Gary Green said: We have a juxtaposition of 2D and 3D visuals, flashy turn-based combat, quirky anime characters with cheeky dialogue with plenty of partial nudity; Yes, this is a Compile Heart JRPG. Whilst the engine is borrowed from Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2, Mugen Souls is more of a Disgaea spin-off. It’s not a strategy RPG as such, it merely sits within Disgaea’s ever-expanding universe (Multiverse? Netherverse? Your guess is as good as mine). You won’t find cameos though, since Mugen Souls is a franchise which aims to stand on its own two feet.

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Looking Back At 2008, An Unbelievably Incredible Year Of Video Game Releases

Huzaifa from eXputer: "2008 was home to the likes of Call of Duty: World at War, Dead Space, GTA 4, Far Cry 2, Left 4 Dead, and many other hits, which is outright remarkable."

CrimsonWing697h ago

I don’t think anything can compare to 2023

lucasnooker7h ago

1998 - the best year in gaming! Metal gear solid, crash bandicoot 3, medievil, half life, ocarina of time, thief, tenchu, resident evil 2, Spyro, tomb raider 3, oddworld abes exodus, banjo kazooie.

It was a different breed of a gaming era. You’ll never understand what it was like back then. The aura of gaming, it was different!

KyRo6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

I second this. Gaming was a lot more varied and fun than it is today. I'm 35 so getting on compared to some here but I got to see all the changes from NES up to now but I've never felt so disappointed in any generation than I have this current gen. I was expecting more from this generation rather than prettier versions of games that came before it. Game mechanics have become so refined that alot of games feel the same and has done for a while now.

Maybe it's time to have a break for a while. I love gaming but I don't feel I get much fun in the traditional sense out of it anymore.

CrimsonWing696h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil 2, Abe’s Exodus, and Ocarina of Time are the only things from that list that I liked.

Here’s the 2023 game releases that I personally liked… and big releases that I didn’t care for:

- Dead Space Remake
- Wo Long Dynatsy
- Resident Evil 4 Remake
- Diablo 4
- Fire Emblem Engage
- Hogwarts Legcay
- Street Fighter 6
- Hi-Fi Rush
- Like a Dragon: Ishin
- Octopath Traveler 2
- Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters
- Final Fanatsy XVI (actually ended up not liking this, but it was still a big deal release)
- Baldur’s Gate 3
- Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon
- Lies of P
- Mortal Kombat 1
- Marvel’s Spider-Man 2
- Starfield (Ended up hating this one, but big release)
- Super Mario Bros. Wonder
- Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (I’m an old-school Zelda fan, but didn’t really enjoy this game)
- Alan Wake 2

I mean, honestly I’ve never seen a year of major IP releases like that, ever.

Profchaos3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Isn't it just a generational thing realistically.

I've been gaming since way back and I some of my favourite games go as far back as the late 80s for me each generation has a year or two of game changing releases one after another before an inevitable dry spell.

I kind of agree gaming had a different feel games hit different because we didn't have the internet nothing got spoiled and you really had to put in the effort to beat a puzzle which could set entire groups of people looking for a solution. But most importantly games were experimental and not as cookie cutter as today even basics like controls were not universal today r2 is shoot l2 is ads garunteed you can't deviate from that in a shooter back then it could of been square, R1 or R1 and circle nothing was standard.

But as time moves on a new generation picks up their controller they are going to be interested in different things that PS1 demo disc with the t Rex blew our primitive 16 bit brains back on launch but to kids today it's laughable.
The new gen of kids coming into to hobby seem to value different things to us there seems to be a huge focus on online play, streamers, gaming personalities, and social experiences, convience of digital downloads. To me I value none of that but that's ok like my parents not liking the band's I would listen to its just the natural cycle.