Is this what PlayStation 4 and Xbox 720 games will look like?

PS3, in collaboration with Codemasters' lead artist Mike Smith and Dead End Thrills techmaster Duncan Harris, shows off tech rumoured to be powering Sony's next gen console

[IRetrouk]

Double post

[Gregard]

Double post with only 2 bubbles? :D

[Godmars290]

It happens. Sometimes N4G burps. Been happening to me a lot lately.

On topic; So I'm the only one who's not happy that console graphics are becoming more limited in that they and related graphic engines are sliding towards realism?

[Xof]

Agree with Godmars.

And to answer the article's question: possibly, but odds are they'll still play like PS2 games. Higher fidelity seems to be the focus for game development, and--let's face it--games the difference in ability to render realistic environments between the current and next generation will be marginal, at best.

[Gaming101]

With these early scans you can only see what games will look like, there are all sorts of other things that the heavy processing capabilities will allow you to do, like more advanced AI, more advanced physics, running multiple AI's at once that behave differently so it isn't just duck, cover and shoot for everyone you're up against.

[n4f]

i agree with gdmars, i want better art style, better game play, everything better. i dont want a movie with a 5min gameplay.

[Kevin ButIer]

I believe that the true next gen is not in the graphics, there is so many ways to improve gameplay nowadays.

[StraightPath]

PC has seen kinda of graphics for years now lol just look at Crysis with mods or gta 4 with mod or crysis 2.

[thetest]

I hate stupid articles like this. Everyone knows that the yet to be released consoles are going to suck more than your current PC you bought 2 years ago.

Low quality textures, jaggies, sub-60 FPS, fake HD resolution, input lag, high network latency.

[ChiVoLok0]

Well I'm ok with today's graphics. I would much rather hope they focus on physics then graphics for now.

[SpinalRemains138]

That is true. What is also true is that console gaming is better than PC gaming dollar for dollar.

[MysticStrummer]

Whatever PS4 and 720 graphics look like, one thing is certain... PC gamers will troll every article about them and tell us all how much better PC graphics are, as if it matters to anyone but other PC gamers.

[DoomeDx]

First picture is from Crysis 1, modded.

seen it before months ago

[ninjahunter]

Not modded, just tweaked the config file for brighter lights and darker shadows.

[cannon8800]

@ninjahunter

That's what modded means. It means "modified" When you "tweak" the configurations, you are still modifying it. lol

[ATi_Elite]

Who approved this crap? REMOVE the PC tag. This has nothing to do with the PC.

[ (In effect, PS4 will be "essentially a PC" ]

Blah ha ha ha haah!

Those "Game Boxes" already are cheap PC's!

The Circle is Now Complete! Either Join us or Die!

WASD ForEver!

[EmperorDalek]

WASD sucks. Joysticks FTW.

There is a reason Vader died.

[Asgaro]

@EmperorDalek:

Mouse and keyboard wins all.
There is a reason you use your PC with a mouse, and not with an inaccurate controller.

[RAYMEISTER]

Today's consoles are yesterdays PC's. Always

[Bobby Kotex]

And tomorrow's consoles are today's PCs. Unfortunately game companies aren't really pushing the graphical limits anymore to keep consoles on the same playing field as PCs. PCs are much much more powerful since the 360 and PS3 came out, but are games really that much better looking?

[zeddy]

games already look like that on the ps3. play uncharted or god of war.

[TVippy]

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The guy is alright, don't hate on him so much.

[Ricardo86384520]

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[IRetrouk]

cool

[Bigbangbing]

lol?

[wallis]

Can people stop mocking up what they think "next gen" graphics will look like? Seriously the "next generation" is nothing more than a constructed concept applied to an area of technology that undergoes small but consistent steps of progress peppered with the occasional leap forward. It's one thing for the "next gen" of consoles to be speculated on but it's not like you press a damn a button and gaming's graphics are going to suddenly pokevolve into something new and amazing.

Besides the top screenshot looks like crysis and the bottom screenshot looks like exactly what it is - which is a pre-render. I mean Jesus H Christ I can go and download Icehancer for GTAIV and play a photorealistic game RIGHT NOW on my laptop. The next generation of gaming should involve a fucking connection to your central nervous system - anything less and it's just an upgrade to the current generation.

[JAMurida]

"The next generation of gaming should involve a fucking connection to your central nervous system - anything less and it's just an upgrade to the current generation."

Pretty much.

[Chitown71291]

KONY2012 . Please do research on it. Thank you

[yess]

Please keep your war propaganda out of gaming.

THANK YOU!

[Chitown71291]

-___- Didn't require a response dude. Just tryna spread the word , thats all. Have a good day man.....

[yess]

But what you are spreading is a fraud, maybe you should research a litle before spreading.
People a going crazy about this, but have no idea of what they are supporting.

So therefor it does not belong in here....Period.

[Autodidactdystopia]

The movement is indeed a fraud as well as the company behind it Invisible children.

You must do more digging before supporting something. Latching on to every youtube video that is well edited and moving will distort your sense of reality.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[pr0digyZA]

"Besides the top screenshot looks like crysis"

Yes it is crysis.

[Fkabbz]

Consoles aren't going to get any better. One more "generation" and that's it.

[WitWolfy]

I think A LOT of people said the same thing back when the PS1 launched that time

[GanjaMan]

Hi

[Jpm224]

Oh look, another one of *these* articles.

[Anon1974]

It's ridiculous. It doesn't matter if the hardware can deliver or not, it's not like suddenly all games are going to look amazing overnight. It comes down to the developers and their talents/resources available. If it was just a matter of hardware, all games would look like Gears or Uncharted right now, or all PC games would look like the Witcher. Clearly, this isn't happening. The developers are the bottleneck, not the hardware.

[Ducky]

"If it was just a matter of hardware, all games would look like Gears or Uncharted right now"

If all games were linear third person shooters, maybe.

The developper's skill comes into play, but this late into the gen, the hardware is a bigger bottleneck than developers... and it's pretty apparent when even the best games are scraping by at 720p and 30fps.

[Rayko]

Graphics look like the bird in Wii U.

Wii U will be around 5-6 times stronger than current gen as well, why not mention Wii U?

[dawgsfan117]

Actually from what we have heard it should be about twice as powerful as the current gen systems and MS and Sony's new consoles are expected to be closer to the 5 or 6 times more powerful you mentioned.

[ProjectVulcan]

Actually the rumours are starting to clear around PS4 and apparently Sony are once again going completely bonkers and shooting for the moon with their hardware.

I have to say it did not work well with PS3, i mean, it was not really significantly faster than 360 and developers were not pleased.

However there is talk of a massive AMD chip, absurdly huge with an advanced GPU and x86 CPU. Not just that, DSPs tacked on, FPGA units. All sorts of mad additions. To make it all work and not have a bunch of horrible memory bottlenecks they will dump a whole bunch of stacked memory chips on top to serve as super duper wide bandwidth.

If it works out it could be mad fast. If it fails it could be another expensive disaster.

[DudeJets]

See I heard with Sony's new console you can cook your dinner on it whilst you play. Were Microsoft's will double up as an iron board.

[Khronikos]

The PS3 is far from a disaster. I like how you marketing execs seem to know everything about the market. We are in the largest financial crisis in history it's just the TV box you look to for information doesn't like to tell you this. Meanwhile, the PS3 needed to shoehorn its bluray technology in and really that was NOT a mistake. The only mistake was releasing the cell without proper tools and yes that was a big mistake but only on certain terms. Nobody came close to the Wii and I saw this coming after a few grandma's and what not wanted the thing.

But let us be realistic. The 360 was a gigantic failure of epic proportions with its who knows how many consoles failed. Most people at this stage don't know a single soul with a working launch or close to launch console. Not one really. Many of the SOLD 360 consoles are in reality a bunch of rebought consoles. I would estimate that from just what I know that 30% of 360 consoles are dual owners. I would estimate about 15% are the same on the PS3 side. So please.

This whole generation to me has been one large disaster. And what does the 360 have planned but halo this and that. They are turning into Nintendo without any innovation where at least Sony has the innovation to keep going despite its losses.

If the PS3 doesn't go big it is to all of our own detriment. WE NEED better graphics, physics, etc. and the rumored off the shelf low tier 6 series AMD GPU on the 360 is going to look like one bad decision (for gamers) in a few years if true.

[ProjectVulcan]

Who said PS3 was a disaster Khronikos? I am unsure who you are replying to here.

But Sony made some rather major errors with PS3 at the design and conception stage, hardware errors. That much is fairly clear now we have hindsight.

Also i do have a working Xenon (original) Xbox 360. I am not quite sure what your personal estimates are worth in relation to the topic or anyones replies.

I am looking forward to seeing what kind of performance the new machines deliver. Sony do seem to be aiming very high, that is the word coming from behind closed doors.

See even if you struggle to build a massive chip and it is costly, at least you know within 18 months it will be a LOT easier and cheaper to build when a new smaller process arrives.

[starchild]

@ Khronikos

I have a working launch Xbox 360. It got the RROD once, but it was fixed and it has worked since.

My PS3 has a corrupted/damaged GPU that causes some games to have strange artifacts. But its not worth it to me to pay to have it fixed since I do most of my gaming on the PC and mostly use the consoles for their exclusives or console exclusives.

Both my consoles have had problems this generation while my PC continues to run perfectly. I hope Sony and Microsoft make more reliable machines this time.

[Knight_Cid]

eh

[Pandamobile]

That just looks like a screenshot from a certain PC game from 2007

[Thrillhouse]

It IS a screenshot from that certain game. The trees and shrubs are exactly the same.

[pandaboy]

Looks more like a certain ps3 game from 2008...

http://www.gamefront.com/ha...

[Pandamobile]

Not sure if you're joking, or blind.

[pandaboy]

perhaps that's a sign of how deep the termites have gotten on this site. We are so accustomed to the ridiculous being ardently argued as truth.

[neogeo]

EPIC!

[Jamzluminati]

Haze is my favourite game of all time and even I know he's joking.

[ProjectVulcan]

Problem is the shot from the PS3 game didn't actually look anything like the finished game itself LOL.

Haze looked cack, ran cack, and played mostly cack. It is insulting to Crysis to compare them, especially on visual terms.

[qwertyz]

LOL exactly PC is over a generations ahead of consoles.

[tigertron]

The best indication we have right now is the Samaritan demo.

[TABSF]

Done on current PC hardware

Never mind HD 7000 and Kepler

[dirthurts]

That demo was running on a piece of computer, that costed well over 1000 dollars...
I doubt the PS4 or xbox 720 will even touch it.

[josephayal]

Wii U is the Graph Boss

[DeletedAcc]

And i'm Jesus

[ritsuka666]

So, the next gen of consoles looks like original Crysis? LMAFAO.

[EverydayGuy]

It's not impossible since we can max out Crysis with one graphic card now, in the old days you need to sli/xfire 2-3 graphic cards and that didn't even get 60 fps constantly.

Crysis like graphics on the PS4 probably not, but close to it maybe.

[blackmamba707]

Crysis didn't have ladybirds

[sourav93]

It's nothing to laugh about. Tell me, how many PC games actually still look as good as Crysis modded? Not many, that's for sure. So if the next generation of consoles can produce graphics as such, then the percentage of games with those graphics will be higher than that for PC at this moment.

And anyways, the graphics displayed, as you correctly stated as a screenshot from Crysis (modded), is edging on photorealism. So, if the graphics are photorealistic, then it doesn't matter if they look similar to a 2007 PC game or a 2012 PC game. Photorealism is photorealism.

Back to the article, graphics are fine, but what I really want from next gen is performance i.e. increased FPS, better physics, better AI, larger scales, etc. Tbh I'm happy with the graphics displayed by current AAA console games, so just bump up the resolution and focus mainly on performance.

[tee_bag242]

Well said. Personally im happy with the graphics too but would like to see some innovation in design approach. How many games actually have radomised enemies or dare i say maps?...not many. Admitantly, not every game can have random maps but having random features on games keep them interesting every time.I'm also tired if dumb AI - assuming we are talking about a shooter, turning up the difficulty should make enemies smarter and more skillful not just their bullets doing more damage. I can't tell you how lame and stale these 6-8 hour linear shooters are now. Im talking about the ones that fanboys go head over hills for - Yeah GOW, Halo *yawn*.
The focus is far too much on graphics here!

[Moncole]

It will look like this
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Nintendo knows how to make powerful hardware. The Wii was the first console they made that wasnt powerful

[Rubberlegs]

If you didn't know that's only a UE3 demo. Not trying to down the Wii U but the Samaritan demo is the type of tech will see devs use.

[Moncole]

Samaritan wont be possible on next gen consoles. The PC they used to make it cost more than 1000$

[Rubberlegs]

No you wouldn't see a full blown game like Samaritan but its also a tech demo and not a game. All the tech they display in the Samaritan video is the type of effects you should be seeing.

[mabreu]

Who cares? Graphics are like 10% of what makes a good game. Let's talk about how differently we will be playing games on nextgen consoles, not how real graphics look.

[lastdual]

True, but more processing power allows for new gameplay experiences on top of better graphics.

Look at this gen. The increased power of modern systems over the PS2-era consoles allowed for things like the crowd dynamics in Assassin's Creed, physics governing the many objects in Skyrim, etc.

The line between graphics and gameplay is very thin as far as technology is concerned.

[tee_bag242]

Great point. Better graphics open up new opportunities within a game world to then exploit innovative gameplay. I guess what Mabreu was trying to say was that the even with performance increases the resources are spent to heavily on eye candy rather than thinking about changing the wheel.

[tehpees3]

Ha. Microsoft at least will make next gen about gimmicks. How much of a graphical leap do casual systems really need? Sony indicated they won't be making that type of huge graphical leap.

Its obvious the direction Microsoft is taking they will have the next generation down to "innovative controllers". I.E: gimmicks. The next gen consoles will rely on some form of new input method as opposed to flaunting their looks around.

As for Sony, I really wouldn't like to say. There is always the possibility they may also take a piece of the casual market.

[Nitrox]

Actually, Nintendo made THIS gen about gimmicks. Microsoft may continue to run with it, as they often do with other people's good ideas...

I doubt they see their core market as Kinect users though, that was just an (arguably successful) attempt to sell to the Wii crowd. I don't see it as being the central experience to next-gen gaming.

[hellvaguy]

Just like the Wii U will copy Sony and MS with a focus on online play. It's just the way it goes.

[DEATHSTROKE-cro-]

LOL

I love how pc fanboys say that picture looks nothing special.

[ExCest]

because it really isn't...

but i'll still be happy with my new pretty ps4

[DEATHSTROKE-cro-]

and why it isn't ?

what can be improved on that picture ?

I'm just saying, if it's shit,tell us why it's shit. I'm saying that to those fanboys.
ok, brightness is too high so you can't see all the details.

I know what pc can do and I know what consoles can do. pc is great but saying pc is generations ahead of consoles is just stupid.

there are many console games that look amazing

[milohighclub]

Dude I'm a console gamer and if that is what next gen has to offer I will be disappointed, it is nothing a special for the fact that pcs were doing it shortly after the ps3 was released.

I want graphics at the level of the samaritan demo.

What's with his talk of Sony dropping the cell?

Don't know much about chip sets but...

I thought the cell was a processing chip not a graphics chip what amd is apparently making.

[pr0digyZA]

"I love how pc fanboys say that picture looks nothing special. "

PC players are complaining because that is a picture from crysis which came out in 2007

"I know what pc can do and I know what consoles can do. pc is great but saying pc is generations ahead of consoles is just stupid."

That statement is quite ironic after the fact.

[DEATHSTROKE-cro-]

It's funny how pc fanboys are still mad and trolling on ps3 articles and saying pc's today are better than ps3. no shit, ps3 came in 2007.
and if you see far cry 3 console footage or ps3 exclusives, you can see ps3 is still great.
I get great exclusives every year on ps3, I got free online, I play on big HD TV (not small pc screen), I don't need to sit in a chair to play a game, I don't need to upgrade my ps3 every year or two and spend money.....
I wonder if you pc fanboys will talk how ps4 is shit if we see that Epic's Samaritan game on ps4

[milohighclub]

@deathstroke. You can play your pc on your HDTV in the comfort of your living room with a pad. Also you could upgrade you pc now and it will be good enough for 4 years easily, if you upgrade it now with the highest tech that's out and if the image above is gonna be the same level of next gen, you could have better graphics than next gen now.

Gonna buy a high end gaming pc in a few month to put me on til next gen as I have been bored of the graphics for about a year or so.

No way can ps3 last 4 more years and still be relevant to any hardcore gamer.

[SergeantVodka]

It isn't impressive mainly because of the fact that is taken from a PC game.

[hellvaguy]

Where else would an anticipated console pics from consoles that don't yet exist? Ya know the time machines that are common place in the movies, well they (***spoiler alert***) don't really exist.

[JONESY6]

The first screen shot is Crysis, a pc game from 2007. and the second is an ATI tech demon from 2010.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I can max Crysis and run that Demo with my computer from 2009.

[anony-mouse]

I was wondering who would be the first to point out the ATI tech demo...

not even a demo for New tech...

[Major_Nelson]

No !!
PS4 will look Better !!

[shodaime]

the bug picture in in 0:45 to 0:46 second
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
this article is bullshit

[blackmamba707]

bubbles for you, holmes is that you?

[andrewsqual]

Its debatable. The only reason its debatable is if you showed pics of Killzone and Uncharted 7 years ago and asked is this what the next Playstation and Xbox's graphics will look like then that answer would be no. The 360 never had graphics like Killzone and Uncharted. So to the main question, no.

[hennessey86]

on the 360 looks better than killzone 3

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

No. It does not.

The only 360 games that rival Killzone 3 are Battlefield 3 and Gears of War 3...and I don't think either one is quite there.

[xtreampro]

Actually KZ2 looks better than KZ3 lol.

[GameGuy]

Next gen graphics are too hard to predict. If you look back at the 360,PS3...etc you will see that as the years kept going things just kept improving.

[TBONEJF]

This picture looks worse than 720P. I have a 26" LCD HDTV and my picture still looks better than this piece of crap

[M83_]

So we are supposed to base what next gen graphics might look like on just two screenshots?
I honestly don't know what to expect but the graphical leaps have been big between the PS1->PS2->PS3 so it's safe to assume that the leap will be just as significant with the PS4 and other consoles.

[bobrea]

You don't know what the hardware will be so there's no point in making stupid articles like this.

[mt]

to PC fanboys, I know PC is way stronger and will be stronger than next gen consoles, but I Can't play Uncharted , or god of war or metal gear, so no I am good with my console even though it is weaker "graphically"

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

Just get both. I mean, we all have PC's. It's relatively cheap to upgrade a PC, if you buy parts during sales from Tiger Direct or NewEgg.

I have both and I absolutely love it! PC and PS3 combined with my Vita are one amazing gaming orgy!

[PixL]

Last time I checked a graphics card able to run Battlefield 3 (probably the most demanding game around right now) quite smoothly in full HD was similar in price to a PS3.

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

You don't need to run BF3 quite smoothly in full HD. My system can't do that. I'm doing just fine with most other games though.

[pr0digyZA]

A lot of PC gamers can afford consoles some just choose not too. I personally have a 360,PS3,PSP,vita and two gaming PC's. Many of my friends who are PC players have at least one console.

[Voxelman]

Next Metal gear is coming to PC, and PC has it's own exclusives Guild Wars 2, War of the Roses, Simcity, Starcraft etc

[Bladesfist]

I like RTS games and indie games so I dont really see the need in more fps. (No offense to fps games thats just me)

[turgore]

so it looks like crysis 1 maxed out. a game that came out in 2007.

[Kran]

Well... probably not "right away". Takes a couple of years before full potential games are realised.

[stragomccloud]

Even if the next gen consoles are vastly inferior to PCs of today, because of the fact that consoles run in such an optimized environment, they'll no doubt look like high end PCs(though not the best of the best)for years to come... food for thought.

[Elvis]

How am I supposed to know?.

[SnowBlu]

people expect to much for the future

instead of thinking that time will make everything better they should realise that we need a huge discovery of how to make small computers that can play huge games

because ipod can run games that look better than 80's games and even 90's games

and if people will build an engine that saves alot of room games like bf3 can be like 5 gb

but again its a huge thing to work on

[Vladplaya]

No, that's what computer games look like today. Crysis 1 + mods = mind blown.

[Zephol]

Crysis warhead with graphics mod is the best looking game around.

[Perjoss]

is that crysis?

[nepdyse]

Consoles haha, feast your eyes on this. Consoles won't be capable of visual like this unless it costs upwards of $2000.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[debian_zac]

6x as powerful... so 512MBx 6 is only 3GBs of memory for the whole unit... O.o why not just go with 4 and call it good. Also will the new systems have sufficient cooling. Or reinforced motherboards, So the heat from a long gaming system doesn't damage anything.

[PersonMan]

First image looks incredibly washed out. Blacks look grey and the colors are very muted. Uncharted 3 looks better.

[Tewi-Inaba]

Like PC 4 years ago

[Bounkass]

All we can do is hope...

[ninjahunter]

Listed under PC news, Yet not PC news.

[SneeringImperialist]

Poor consoles, outdated and outperformed even before you are released :/ PC graphics were like this 2 years ago lol.

[sly-Famous]

Poor PC devs, outdated, outprformed and no imagination, all they have now to hold on to are graphics and even then not that impressive without mods.

[SneeringImperialist]

Do you have a gaming PC man? Because what you say is mostly not the case but i do agree the devs are running out of idea's and getting lazy.

[Thepcz]

...

[RyuDrinksTheDew]

isnt that first picture just Crysis?

yes, im serious, not trying to troll.

[blakstarz]

Who cares, just make sure the games don't suck!

[SnipeySnake]

The day where graphics won't matter will soon come! Rejoice!

[KrimsonKody]

"Is this what PS4 & XBox720 games will look like?

Eew!
No.
Have'nt you seen Kara?

[Tzuno]

Pictures doesn't convince anyone.

[PAYNEinc85]

How the hell would one know that a PC is over a full generation ahead of the next consoles? Noone even knows anything about the hardware we'll be getting.

[Picnic]

The first screenshot might as well be called 'This is what Uncharted 4 will look like if Naughty Dog make it for the PS4'. It's not massively different from what the small section of jungle looks like in Uncharted 3 anyway so I'd expect Naughty Dog would do even better than that actually. Those graphics will be regarded as just early next-gen I would imagine.