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Sony explains discrepancy between US and EU PlayStation Stores

Eurogamer: "Sony has, finally, gone on the record to explain why some games that launch on the US PlayStation Store don't make it to the EU PlayStation Store."

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Yi-Long4430d ago

... and the example given is Trine 2, than why is Trine 2 available on the EU XBLA Marketplace!?

Also, for many people in the EU, we just want the english version, instead of waiting for a 'localised' version.

sinncross4430d ago

Whether you like it or not, SCEE`s policy is to get content available to most of the countries in the region at the same time, rather then showing favour for say UK because they just need the English version.

I am not saying that SCEE is right, but you can understand where they are coming from in trying to please as many of their fans simultaneously.

tigertron4430d ago

Definately, but it is annoying for us Brits and even Irish that have to put up with waiting despite the US and Canada speaking English.

novcze4430d ago

I'm sure Yi-Long is talking about non-English speaking countries, most of EU understand English good enough to play games. They aren't that dialogue heavy usually.

aCasualGamer4430d ago

Although i can see where you are coming from @Tigertron you have to realize we live in Europe. That's why it's called SCEE (Sony Computer Entertainment Europe) and SCEA(-||- America), there is a difference. SCEE have many countries that they have to cater to, where SCEA have only two countries to worry about.

It's bad for us, because we have to wait extra. But you can understand why that is.

Although, i gotta admit, if Trine 2 is on the EU XBLA then this is just BS.

Yi-Long4429d ago

... I was talking about the non-english countries where most people are able to comprehend basic English enough to enjoy the games, and many have a pretty good grasp of it.

Those who don't can choose to wait a little while longer for a localized version.

Personally, I hate localized releases though. Especially if they're FORCED localizations where you don't even have the option to choose the original language.

NewMonday4429d ago

Brits should just use the NA PSN

Razongunz4429d ago

that is true, but still annoying..

if a game is in english then get it to EU..80% of the gamers here in EU will buy it..

i'm from norway. and i prefer the english speaking language.. same goes for sweden and denmark because those are pretty close AND similar to us, germany is good in english.

only countries that actually struggle at a degree with english are russia and spain and even alot of gamers from these countries know english...

its kinda annoying that they w8 to localising stuff because the minority doesnt know english in the EU.

mep694429d ago

SCEE Sony Computer Entertainment England

I called it

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RedDead4430d ago

I'd love to ask why the layout sucks too in the EU one?

Anyway, the way it is.

Xbox = US then EU then Asia.
PS3 = Asia then US then EU.

That's just how it happened

tiffac0084430d ago (Edited 4430d ago )

Although its true that we get some contents/games earlier here in Asia, especially after Japan. They are mostly not in English but rather in Chinese.

So we still have to wait for the US version to come out first before we get an English Asian version.

Panzerkanzler4430d ago

Agreed. Those of us who went to school and learned english are tired of having to wait for localised versions for the english-impaired. Release the english only version ASAP and then the localized versions as they get done.

caseh4429d ago (Edited 4429d ago )

Well said, why EU should wait. Release English version straight away and simply patch in languages as needed.

EU always gets screwed, bunch of games never even reach EU PSN, I've been waiting on King of Fighters '96 forever.

Not only that but they are more expensive when compared to the US store, this wouldn't bother me other than the fact you cannot credit a US store account on an EU PS3 using a bank card. You need to buy US PSN cards off Ebay etc which is what I might start doing from now on.

Screw EU PSN.

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zeddy4429d ago

im sure if they put some more time and effort in trying to get games out here we would get the same amount of games in the US. just look at ps plus, we get a pathetic amount of content compared to america but we still pay the same price. lets face it, sony will work as hard as they can on the US psn and get to us whenever they can.

MattS4429d ago

It's also worth mentioning that a proper localisation for the UK market will be slightly different to the English version that is available in America.

Localisation isn't as easy as people think; there are entire textbooks on the subject, and it needs to be done for every single location.

PixL4429d ago

But you have a choice not to wait. Make a US account, buy US PSN card (I know many online shops that sell them) and enjoy your content. There are many people who prefer localized games, even if they have a grasp of English.

I buy most Sony exclusives domestically just to support their local office, though most of the time I choose to play in English. They localize all games, which is very nice from the customer's point of view. It shows that they care about the local market. To the contrary, Microsoft never localizes their games fully. Even Kinect games for children come with subtitles, which is totally stupid. It shows that they don't give a damn about foreign markets (and mutually, gamers in non-English EU generally don't care much about Microsoft consoles).

EVILDEAD3604422d ago (Edited 4422d ago )

'It shows that they don't give a damn about foreign markets (and mutually, gamers in non-English EU generally don't care much about Microsoft consoles).'

Hence the reason by this logic that 'generally' most trolling from you and others comes from outside of the US. Actually makes perfect sense.

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Emilio_Estevez4430d ago

Not sure why they are saying finally, the same thing has been said over and over.

MaximusPrime4430d ago

Yea, it's all old news. But it's good to be reminded for newcomers

FrightfulActions4430d ago

How about explain why you cannot change your country region after making an account... Do people not ever move? I have to purchase my PSN content through an alt account because my primary is EU.

FinaLXiii4430d ago

Still not an excusse for the lack of PSOne Classics.

Sizzon4430d ago

exactly, still waiting on syphon filter 2 and all three spyro games.

coryok4429d ago

there are some games on the EU store that arent on the NA store, breath of fire 3 for example. NA wont let it release (or any other similar port btw) unless the port comes with extra content, while the EU will. its kind of dumb, the end user (us) shouldnt have to deal with this stuff, its their job to get the game released here. we shouldnt have to beg them to take our money

Hx3KinG4430d ago

they told us this months ago.

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies11d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken11d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga11d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken11d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6411d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long11d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197211d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12511d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91311d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer11d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91311d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit11d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher11d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6911d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit11d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher11d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken11d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197211d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2311d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218311d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder11d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

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"... off a cliff"

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades17d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken17d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades17d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii17d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit19d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos19d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9519d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia19d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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