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8BitBot: 5 reasons why the Xbox 720 and Playstation 4 are not likely in 2012.

"There has been a lot of talk lately about the next Xbox (probably named 720 or possibly the rumoured Xbox X) and PS4 being announced in early 2012 for a late 2012 release. There has even been talk about dev kits going out. So 8BitBot decided to take a look at things and see what the chances are of next year being the start of the next gen for the current HD Twins. Our take is that it’s not going to happen and here are 5 reasons why:"

Batzi4532d ago

if by "likely in 2012" you mean being released in the market then of course not. They haven't been announced yet and I think E3 2012 will be that day or TGS for PS4. However, I still think we are far from the next generation consoles release. Maybe we'll get them 2 years from now(late 2013) but not before. Sony would at least want the PS3 to have its console reached 7 years of its lifespan until it releases the PS4.

hennessey864532d ago

with you about the ps4 but I believe we could get the next xbox by next christmas.

BlindGuardian4532d ago

Halo 4 for the 360 in holidays 2012 is all the reasons necessary to confirm that it won't come on next year

AngryTypingGuy4532d ago

Hey N4G...ENOUGH OF "5 REASONS" ARTICLES!

decrypt4532d ago

Why do console gamers want new consoles? it will just improve graphics. Graphics arent so important, its the gameplay that counts.

NamelessTed4532d ago

@BlindGuardian

You ignore the possibility that Halo 4 could be a launch title for the next generation Xbox.

First, they said it would be the beginning of a new trilogy in the Halo series. It might make sense for them to have that entire trilogy on the next generation rather than splitting it.

Also consider that Halo 4 started development at 343 Industries even before Halo: Reach was released. I do realize that MS and 343 have clarified that Halo 4 will be for Xbox 360, but you have to realize that IF it is coming out for the next Xbox, they would still have to say that it is an Xbox 360 title because they aren't going to announce a new system before their big announcement.

Also, we know Halo 4 is coming 2012 and we haven't seen any screenshots or game footage. The only thing they have shown is pre-rendered footage.

I guess we will have to wait until CES and/or E3 to see what happens.

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morganfell4532d ago (Edited 4532d ago )

I still say the Xbox 720 and PS4 will launch in 2014. And I have two reasons.

First, HALO 4 is releasing in 2012. Microsoft isn't about announce their new Xbox...and then launch their flagship title a few months later.

@NamelessTed, remember, it's a 360 title.

http://www.pcmag.com/articl...

Here is Frankie O'Connor posting at Neogaf:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

I would buy HALO on any platform anytime but MS has smarter marketing than that.

Second are the comments of Mark Rein and Tim Sweeney both of whom have stated that we would not see Unreal 4 until 2014. What does "see" in this case mean? Does it mean see a demo or does it mean see as in consumers get their hands on an Unreal 4 game.

Best case scenario means we see an Unreal 4 demo at GDC in 2013 and then get our hands on a game in 2014. Otherwise we would see it in 2014 and then not get an Unreal 4 game until 2015.

If you understand those comments with other remarks by Mark Rein and the Epic Staff stating Unreal 4 will be used in launch titles for next gen then you see that best case scenario Epic, maker of the most prolific game engine this generation, is saying the next generation of consoles launches in 2014.

And by consoles I mean the PS4 as well since Epic is planning on Unreal 4 to be more multiplatform friendly.

himdeel4532d ago

I predict a 2013 reveal for the next wave of systems from MS and SONY with actual systems releasing NO LATER than spring 2014. I think multiplatform game developers will like anyone else that still has a job do more with these aging systems and save money on developing new tech for the time being.

We'll see optimized engines squeezing everything they can out of the 360 and PS3 while tinkering with the WiiU. Platform exclusives will continue for the 360 and PS3 albeit at a slower rate after 2012 while those 1st party developers dig deep into the new tech and engines.

Right now there is no benefit and only risk to whomever launches a new system before 2013. WiiU will be the guinea pig for this interim period between the release of the next MS and SONY consoles.

Diver4531d ago (Edited 4531d ago )

why would companies rush to release a new console when the current ones are making plenty o cash.

and ted dude its a 360 game. they not gonna lie to the community like that. an frank o isnt gonna lie to the community. if it was gonna go next gen they woulda stayed mum about the whole thing.

gamingdroid4531d ago

I think the issue of Halo 4 coming on Xbox 360 is blocking the next Xbox is a non-issue. MS could just as well release it on both consoles.

Heck, they could release both versions on the same disc... just flip it over! :D

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Skip_Bayless4532d ago

Within three months of Halo 4 release there's gonna be a Xbox 3 annouced.

BitbyDeath4532d ago

"Sony would at least want the PS3 to have its console reached 7 years of its lifespan until it releases the PS4."

Both Playstation 1 & 2 were out for 6 years before another released.

There is a really good chance the PS3 will do exactly the same.

No FanS Land4532d ago

the PS1 released in sept.1995 and Ps2 in oct. 2000. (US release)

that's 5 years for me.

PS2 to PS3 was 6 years,

it's been 5 now. I think we'll see the next gen in 2013.

Batzi4532d ago

I don't know why I said 7 :P But apparently it is incrementing by 1 every generation :P so let's see :D

himdeel4532d ago

In reading No FanS Lands comments I think PS3 will be out 7 years before we hear of a new system so again 2014.

EasilyTheBest4532d ago

Despite what most comments seem to think, I really expect a new Xbox in November 2012.
I think it will be shown extensivly at E3 2012 and then brought to market quickly to gain the upper hand on Sony once again.
A suprise 2012 release could also hurt Nintendo as I cant see them having the same success this time around with the Wii U.
I expect a New Kinect and a Xbox style controller that splits into 2 parts to be used with Kinect.
I also expect the new Xbox to be suprisingy more powerful than everyone expects and alot cheaper too.
I expect £249. While the 360 will continue but for only £99.
Microsoft can afford to be really agressive and they know that its a good time to be as Sony and Nintendos financial positions are looking so bleak.

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tdogchristy904532d ago

As long as I get ac3 on current systems so I can finish the story without having to get a new machine, I'll be happy.

Ares84HU4532d ago

I didn't play it yet, but I heard that Assassin's Creed Revelations finishes the story....isn't that the case?

DarkBlood4532d ago

with skyrim and other games i havent started Revelation yet lol

but from what i know is a story arc of a specific person ends there

at least thats what i think anyways based on the blackout ending in brotherhood

Reborn4532d ago

-maybe a spoiler-

No. AC Rev, just answers questions about Ezio/Desmond/Altair and how they're all linked. But AC3, will end it. Answering the biggest question...

Don't wanna potentially spoil anything else.

Kurt Russell4532d ago

Just finished the game myself. The bit with the Goblin King of Sweden was odd, but the most difficult section was the bit the the polar bear.

Rettom4532d ago

It ends Ezio's story.

QuodEratDemonstrandm4532d ago

What Rettom said. It's AC:R is the last we'll see of Ezio. It's also an epilogue to the first Assassin's Creed, with a few Altair missions thrown in there.

I suspect AC3 will be all Desmond.

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NamelessTed4532d ago

Don't hold your breath for Assassin's Creed 3 this generation.

Ubisoft has completely stagnated the AC franchise with the release of Revelations. They made a great game with AC2 and have just repackaged it twice now with some more story. Ubisoft is going to have to take some significant time working on AC3 if they want to take the franchise to the next level.

tdogchristy904532d ago

But according to the story arch, it has to finish by the end of 2012. Having a story line that climax in 2012 release in 2013/14 just doesn't make sense. Release ac3, finish this 2012/Desmond story and then take a much needed break for a few years before starting a new story arch.

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PhantomTommy4532d ago

I'm not buying a new console to play the same shit unimaginative games with slightly better graphics.

MultiConsoleGamer4532d ago

Haw, this author is in for a very big surprise.

Xbox 10 and Wii-U both before Christmas next year. Just in time for the Holidays.

r214532d ago

xbox 10? either you mean xbox 3 or you're joking around.

fei-hung4532d ago

I think he meant the XBOX X, which might be read as XBOX 10 due to X being a roman Numeral.

MultiConsoleGamer4531d ago

No, I mean Xbox 10. And there's a reason for the name. Check my submission history.

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thorstein16h ago

It was worrisome to begin with.

It's a niche genre with only a handful of hits that can stand the test of time.

CrimsonWing6916h ago

What’s to be unsure of!? Look at the ratio of success to failure!

shinoff218314h ago

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Helldivers 2 manages just fine…

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Nameer from eXputer: "Some exceptions aside, I don't think the battle pass is a net positive for gaming with how they're implemented in most live service titles."

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Battle passes AND meta gaming both.

DivineHand12516h ago(Edited 16h ago)

I like the way Helldivers 2 does battle passes. It allows you to make purchases on each level of the battle pass and gives you the option of choosing which item to unlock first. The more purchases you make using medals the further you progress. There is no timer and you can earn medals towards purchasing stuff via personal orders and Major orders.

I haven't played much live service games that have battle passes but I remember some games that have battle passes where you progress through it linearly using an exp system. What makes it really bad is that the battle pass will have like 50 or more levels with the cooler stuff being closer to the end. They also have an in-game shop that sells exp boosters so you can reach the end of the pass before it refreshes. Everyone ilse will have to grind their way through.

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