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Fanboy Addicts Hooked On Format War

When it comes to HD DVD vs. Blu-ray Disc, people are bound to hear passionate arguments, angry words, and even outright threats. But it's not coming from Sony, Toshiba, or even studio spokesmen with a vested, financial interest.

It's the fans who have been most vocal - and controversial - about the new millennium's format war.

"Status symbol, bragging rights or just the fact that people want to show off their tech knowledge, what they are doing is presenting their opinions on forums and blogs and then defending these opinions - and their 'tech' - with fanaticism," said Xiao Fang, webmaster of DigitalDigest.com, one of the many Web sites where HD DVD and Blu-ray fanboys express their thoughts. "It is unique in that I don't think something like this has happened before on such a scale."

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neogeo5994d ago

360 4 life!
Wii 4 life!
blueray 4 life!

HDDVD? never herd of it.

thereapersson5994d ago

The same could be said about the console war

snoop_dizzle5994d ago (Edited 5994d ago )

BUERA IS TEH FUTR"! BOW TO IT!

NO!

TEH HDDVDD IS A GNNA PWN YUO!

Anyways yes it is kinda sad people put that much energy into a format. They are important, but gee, there is overkill. I buy bluray or just dvd(i might start buying hddvd though), but i don't really go on saying anything.

fury5994d ago (Edited 5994d ago )

Once they've made their decisions, they spread fud, bs and hate on the other format, even if they can't back their hatred with valid arguments. It's like you've been born in a certain country and develop national pride and hate or discriminate against another country and their citizens. The same applies to religions, which is an even better example. People have a certain religion, for example the Christianity or the Islam. Now the extremists of the respective religions hate on each other because they do not share the same thoughts, or basically the same "decision".

Now, for some people Blu-ray is a "religion" and for others HD-DVD is. Any why do they hate and can't get along? Because they are different (even just slightly) and don't share the same thoughts and decisions. But there is one thing they share, actually the most important thing, they both want to watch movies in HD but with _one_ precondition. "Their" format (religion) has to win this race.
This is really odd if you think about it...shows you how dumb the average joe is.
Of course it would be the best solution to let one format win not to confuse the mass-market, but in the end it will boil down hybrid players, which can play both Blu-ray and HD-DVD.

blackmagic5994d ago

Nice thought out comment FuRy.

eagle215994d ago

They are the ones who fed and were paid to write North American FUD like back in the Genesis and SNES days. I'm sorry but I do not blame fanboys, I blame the media. And this article was written by the media, blaming it on fanboys. But fanboys are consumers and have the right to like whatever they want. If the media would be responsible and recognize sales trends, not reporting every variable like it can't change, we may have a comfortable blog community. I myself, never read blogs and stuff about (Sony, Nintendo, MS...Blu Ray HD DVD) till this past summer. Some stuff was too funny not to read! But I know that hundreds of millions of potential consumers (billions for the movie market) are out there and it will take 5 years of hardwork to win anything.

DFresh5994d ago

Both formats are gonna be around forever might as well just accept it that way.
I do know that Blu-ray has a gigantic lead over the HD DVD format and more support from movie industries.
All the videogame consoles will still be around.
There's really no point in arguing because the only person that loses is you.
In my opinion I like Blu-ray better because in movies and games it has more space on a disc to work with 2X the space as a matter of fact.
This format war is almost like the Cold War just a stalemate with no victory.
I think every console has it's great things and then it has it's bad things.
I'm more long term
and
Sony to me is more reliable than MS
and
they offer a lot of stuff for free.
ex.) Home, Online, Firmware Updates, etc.
PS3 is the better deal in my opinion.

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PAX East 2024: Suda51 Talks Shadow of the Damned, More

Grasshopper Manufacture's Shadows of the Damned returns this year with a remaster, and Hardcore Gamer got to talk with Suda51 about it, among other things...

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What the game industry must do to prevent occupational burnout

Game industry working conditions are improving, but occupational burnout still runs amok. Studios and workers have the power to slow it down.

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anast1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

Quite being abusive to the workers and hold management accountable.

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Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Has Reportedly Sold About Half of What FF7 Remake Did in the Same Timeframe

The acclaimed open world action RPG is "underperforming" where its sales are concerned, according to industry analyst Daniel Ahmad.

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raWfodog3d ago

“Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Has Reportedly Sold About Half of What FF7 Remake Did in the Same Timeframe”

Makes sense to me since the current PS5 base is about half of what the PS4 base was when FFVII Remake released.

There were about 113 million PS4’s in consumers hands worldwide in 2020 when FFVII Remake was released (towards the beginning of COVID lockdown no less).

PS5 sales currently sits at about half of that (50-something million. We are not in COVID lockdown so many people are not as bored as they were 4 years ago and not in a rush to buy every video game coming out at release. Some PS4 owners may not have upgraded to PS5 yet and therefore can’t buy the sequel yet. And, of course, some who played Remake just might not be interested in Rebirth.

It just seems pretty disingenuous for an analyst to ‘analyze’ a situation when there are so many mitigating and unequal factors involved.

OtterX2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Yes, this and also finishing part 1 of the Final Fantasy Remake trilogy weighs heavily on it too. There's always a huge percentage of gamers who never finish the games they purchase. It's not always due to lack of enjoyment, but also life priorities etc. But factor that into the knowledge that Rebirth is a straight continuation of the story, and enjoyment lies heavily on having finished the first, you can begin to understand why not as many players jumped in. But absolutely too, the lesser install base of the PS5 played a huge role!

jjb19812d ago

I started the game when it came out, played about 2/3 of the way through and finished the rest in the last month before rebirth came out. There are just too many games and too much adulting to do.

Eonjay1d 12h ago

It sold about half... with about half as many PS5s available as PS4 had when it launched in 2020. So... the tie ratio is about the same. As PS5s continue to sale it should eventually match Remake. It's a really good game.

fr0sty1d 10h ago

I think there's going to be another wave of buyers that purchase the game once the third part of the trilogy is released, especially if they release it as a bundle.

jambola2d ago

Excuse me sir
Industry analyst Daniel Ahmad said this 🙄

Obscure_Observer2d ago

"Industry analyst Daniel Ahmad said this 🙄"

That guy is director of research & insights at Niko Partners.

https://nikopartners.com/

But he shouldn´t be trusted according to some "trust me bro" N4G random. Smh

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Barlos1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

Obscure Observer, so by your logic, we should also trust Pachter? Come on, it's like you're not even trying any more.

MrNinosan1d 15h ago

@Obscure
"We cover China, Chinese Taipei, Egypt, India, Indonesia, Japan, Malaysia, Philippines, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, South Korea, Thailand, United Arab Emirates, and Vietnam."

Yepp, very trusted and the biggest areas for videogame sales.

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Tody_ZA1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

@raWfodog You'd think an analyst would catch these facts, but just goes to show what gaming analysts are made of. We've only in the last year moved to PS5 only games, in addition to the install base cross-gen has been around for years. There are a lot of PS4 players still over there. It's amazing when people compare things whilst isolating all the significant facts.

And Rebirth being a direct sequel is also valid: anecdotally, I've just started FF7 Remake a week ago and I'm loving it, on Chapter 8, but I'm obviously not going to buy Rebirth until I complete the story which will take time.

Ironmike1d 12h ago

But it's hasn't sold as much the articles om Google stating bit so what if it hasn't the game is still great better than remake which tailed of in middle-of-the- game

TheEroica1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

Apologists always know what to say... 👍
Is it possible to squeeze in one more excuses for FF7 sales? Go for it!

Tody_ZA1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

@TheEroica Understand the meaning of the words you use or don't use them. An apologist argues in defense of something controversial or problematic. Pointing out relevant facts that an analysis or article did not take into account is constructive feedback and discussion. There are great movies, games and other forms of art that don't sell as expected, but later gain financial success.

Example? The Godfather Part 2 underperformed financially compared to its predecessor but is widely hailed as one of the greatest films and sequels of all time and is still influential to this day. And no, I'm not comparing Final Fantasy 7 to the Godfather, before you draw that strawman. There is one loose similarity however in that Rebirth is also overwhelmingly acclaimed and considered superior to the first.

Given the decision to split Final Fantasy VII into three separate games, of which Rebirth released exclusively for PS5 leaving the PS4 install base behind, and the final installment due in 2027, the sales performance is a bit more of a conversation than you're trying to make it out to be.

Crows901d 15h ago

Didn't even mention price increases across the board for all games...this causes all people to be more picky and limit game purchases

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GoodGuy092d ago

Unfortunate but it's the reality of sequels. And I simply just don't hear much people talk about rebirth and even remake as these titles just seem too hard to get into with many newcomers and old fans that are upset with the many changes.

Eonjay1d 12h ago

The games are really good and both acclaimed and Rebirth is even better than Remake with a 90+ metascore but if you don't want to 'hear' the praise... you probably wont.

TheProfessional1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

It's kind of ridiculous how some people here are just making stuff up to explain the low sales. Just because you bought the game and you like it doesn't mean it sold better than it did. Same with FFXVI.

rpvenom1d 3h ago

For me its cause now that i know it releases on pc.. id rather play it with mods on my pc than my ps5

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gold_drake2d ago

well, according to some other reports, it had 2.1 mio. players in the first week.

so, who to believe now.

ZeekQuattro2d ago

It's safe to say if it sold that Square would of made a sales milestone announcement like they did with past FF entries or other IPs in general. They did a FF16 sales update within 2 weeks after it launched for instance.

gold_drake2d ago

there is no way this game hasnt already sold more than remake.

there doesnt need to be an announcement for everything, especially not if they released several updates amd the ultimania.

people are too obsessed with sales

CrimsonWing692d ago

I think there’s a reason we haven’t seen a celebratory tweet from Square on the sales. It came out on Feb. 29th and it’s Apr. 13th right now… that ain’t a good sign. I think this one can reach 3 mill at some point but will be behind Remake, which when it comes to business, that ain’t good.

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