Uncharted 3 and the 4/10 review score

BeefJack: "This week, renowned games critic Tom Chick awarded UNCHARTED 3 just 4/10 in his review, prompting yet another fan backlash against a reviewer. But what does this say more about: the critic, the fans, or the very nature of games reviews? We investigate…"

[TOO PAWNED]

don't care

[ikkokucrisis]

the uncharted series has yet to disappoint me. I would buy it soley based on the experience I had from the previous game. UC4 here I come!

[bageara]

We all know that but we still comment and give it attention, just ignore it, Shit! now I just commented

[MysticStrummer]

It's hard not to comment on something as ridiculous as a 4/10 for a game like UC3, which was no doubt his plan.

[Sprudling]

Even if it is just for hits, if we ignore the score at the bottom the review is actually very well written.

Yes, it is subjective, but I've come to realize that all the best reviews tend to be just that. I'm glad I got to read his critical opinion.

And getting upset about something like this is just weak. If you love the game, why should anyone elses opinion matter to you?

[Grendizer]

i already bought the game and im enjoying it but since this guy gave it a 4/10 im returning that shit

[Studio-YaMi]

you forgot the /s

[HINDERIZATION]

comment of the week XD

[HellzAssassin]

C:

[renegade]

LOOL XD

[Gamer1982]

What I don't get is why somebody feels the need to come out and defend the guy for this review. The reviewer in question obviously didn't like the game and that's fine so a low score of 7 maybe a 6 would have been acceptable at a STRETCH if you really disliked it but the fact he gave a 4 is unacceptable for any gamer. So the fact somebody from this crappy site feels the need to defend him proves he too has no credibility.

[hudsoniscool]

ya dude a 7 is a game thats pritty good, and a 6 is a game thats a little better than ok. So if someone doesnt like a game they are entitled to give it a 4 or lower.

[shysun]

@rumplstilts a 4 isn't a "i don't like this game, its not for me score"......It's this game is f'ing horrible, damn near unplayable and No one should play or like this POS game.

We all know that this game is far from a 4, even if it's not your kind of game!

[DragonKnight]

@rumplstilts and hudsoniscool: That is where you're wrong. Numbered scores have nothing to do with personal feelings or if you like or dislike the game. A 6 is a game that's just above average, not a "I kinda liked this game." A 7 is an above average, slightly good game, not a "This is pretty good." A 4 is a below average game, likely broken in many areas, almost unplayable game and has nothing to do with "I don't like this game."

This reviewer is a moron who gave the game a 4 for hits and to be on Metacritic. Simple as that. A review should literally be a summary of what the game does well and what it does poorly without emotional attachment. As a reviewer, it's not your job to sell the game or discourage someone from buying the game. Your job is simply to talk about the game's merits and its flaws. That's all. Numbered scores are independent of feelings.

Personally, I wish reviewers were forced to write reviews without any kind of grading. Just a written review, no scores, nothing like that.

[josephps3]

Uncharted3 should not have been reviewed by this Tom Chick and the site is obviously trolling.

I'm sure for every top AAA game there will always be someone who just isn't into that game. No matter how great the game is, I guarantee 100% that you can find a few ppl that just find it boring and could not get into it.

I know a few people who find Dark Souls incredibly boring and tedious and feels more like work than a fun engaging game. But I and many millions of people love Dark Souls. If my friend was a reviewer then he should not be allowed to review Dark Souls because the game is just not for him. No matter how good the game is he will find it boring, uninteresting and ultimately bad.

Tom Chick complains about boring storytelling, characters, lack of risk/reward balance, setpieces blah blah blah, all of those things he disliked I thought it was awesome and apparently so did many other reviewers and gamers.

Tom Chick as an experienced reviewer and the site that supported this trolling campaign know full well what they are doing. Maybe a linear scripted type of game is not for this Chick? Maybe this Chick will dislikes any game that guides the character along a set path and will never get over the fact that he doesn't have 100% control and therefore will never sit back and enjoy the ride.

I've read a many times several reviewers in the past where they state that the game is not for them but they understand that fans of this game will enjoy. They understand what the game was aiming for and although the game is not for them they can see how other people will enjoy it and give it a fair honest objective score. This makes Tom Chick sound like a immature child ranting about a great game just because he no like.

[BLAKHOODe]

I agree. It's like this - I wouldn't want a church going, Jesus loving, children teaching, school lady to review a movie like The Hangover.. she should be reviewing The Muppets.

These publications need to KNOW their writers better and base assignments on that knowledge to get the most accurate of reviews. At the same time, these publications need to let their readers know what kind of games the reviewer enjoys, so we can have an idea of what kind of gamer they are.

But no matter what - the best reviewer is the gamer themself, because you can't base what you will like on another's opinion. To each his own.

[hudsoniscool]

somepeople just dont like a certain game. Me personly cant stand the elder scrolls, killzone, and gta games. does that make them bad no. its just me personaly.

[TBM]

To me reviewers opinions really don't matter for me since im the one buying the game(s) that im interested in. All i do is just laugh at haters.

[CMoneyBro]

me neither, and I find it funny how Batman has a 96 on metacritic but only 35 reviewers while U3 has a 93 with over 60 reviewers

[Jonah_Reese]

Oh that in particular is because Metacritic and their "weighed score" thing IS STUPID AND USELESS.

[CryofSilence]

Never heard of him and won't ever remember him anyway. To call him renowned is grossly over-flattering him.

[thewhoopimen]

Reading through some of the commentary, I have to wonder if some of you ever went through High School or even got past your Freshman year in college. Because between the many book reports, reviews on films you watched, or what not, many of you should've learned about the basics of what constitutes an academic review writeup. Perhaps it was the failings of your professors/teachers... No, I blame it solely on you.

A review is not a pure 100% opinionated piece with no structure. It holds an objective component piece broken down into a plot synopsis, structure components, (in all mediums: dialogue, characters, etc. In gaming: bug, errors, sound design, graphic design, art direction, animation, gameplay, musical score, ie watch a gametrailer review.) Then the latter half (third) of a review is devoted to the "opinion" of the writer.

The review is designed to inform and educate as well as give a fair analysis and finally a personal voice to the writer.

So if we looked at the points aformentioned about a review's structure, the writer's opinion should at most constitute 10%-20% of the overall score. Ie 1-2 points out of a 10 point system.

Typically when a review score drops below 6 or 5, you are taking the case to the educated reader, that there are game breaking problems that impinge upon basic playability. Ie menu system that is confusing, characters sticking to walls, invisible holes one falls through, enemy ai that just stand there, or sound cutting out in the middle of a firefight, etc.

Of course then you have reviewers with big enough egos that they can handily "believe" their opinion is worth 6 points out of a total 10.

I'm flabbergasted by some of the responses above condoning this behavior. If there isn't objectivity in a review, anybody could give a game a 1/10 simply because they hate the sound of a how the gun fires or how Sully wears an ugly red shirt, but ladies and gentlemen... happily that's now how it works in the industry. Anyway if this writer is 'renowned,' he's certainly lost a lot of credibility.

[Dark General]

There's many different types of ways to review products. Specially when it's a review on something that's subjective like a entertainment experience such as video games. He could write about Uncharteds technical merits, execution and composition but that's only part of the equation. Video games are more than about their technical components seeing as the purpose of a video game is to induce fun which everyone comprehends differently. When a person is tasked with reviewing something of that nature you tread into a different territory as opposed to something that can be analyzed more scientifically.

Reviewing entertainment mediums in itself is hard specially when scientists can't even deduce why a person laugh may laugh. This is multiplied by the fact that games as a medium is still young compared to movies, music and books. This industry as a whole is still figuring out what "works" and what doesn't along with crafting new experiences, genres, audiences, platforms, messages etc. It also shows how we as consumers have grown accustomed to reviewers operating on a 6-10 scale as opposed to a true 10 point scale. I think in the end all this backlash to lower than expected reviews of Uncharted 3 has only fortified the fact that developers, reviewers and us gamers have a long way to go in this entertainment medium.

[geddesmond]

Lol I didn't even know someone gave UC3 a 4/10 until now lol. My thoughts exactly. After playing UC3 and seeing how awesome it was a 4/10 is as relevant as the toilet paper I used to wipe my arse.

As I said before you give bad scores to games people enjoy and your only hurting yourself mo matter how much attention they originally get you. LOL 4/10 thats desperate

[mastiffchild]

Firstly, the backlash shows people are too sensitive and, sadly, also means that blatant attention grabs like this review score still work in that area.

Secondly, when you review anything you review it by the standards of it's genre(an opinion on JRPG game, say, is pointless if the reviewer knows nothing of the genre, hates the genre, decides to review it by the standards of a different genre and so on)or oyour review becomes nonsense. This review smacks of nonsense as I fail to believe , judging U3 by the standards of it's genre, that a 4/10 score is defensible let alone credible but as long as people get upset by these scores and give the lazy writer the oxygen of their attention we will always get them.

Sadly, we also have some fanboy, platform hating writers in gaming(of all shades)andthese bitter people will mark fown anything exclusive to a platform they fon't love if it suits them-I unno whther this is the case here, mind, as I seriously couldn't take the review as a proper piece when I knew the score as it really isn't credible given what I, and everyone I know, knows about both the game and the genre it's in. sometimes a review is poor and sometimes it's just way off the mark and shouldn't be taken seriously or clicked on.

The real shame is we get worked up enough by this stuff that we end up legitimising it as a hit whoring tactic. A 4/10 game is a game which ticks few of it's genre's quality boxes and U3 isn't even near being that game. It's simple and this, at best, was a knowing grasp for hits.

[BinaryMind]

Though I have to say the commenter DEELOW is an idiot.

[Starfox811]

I agree, as a reviewer myself it annoys me that we must quantify our opinions into a score at the bottom of the page. It should be about the words and not the number, who knows what a number really means? Is 4/10 the same as 40/100? You'd think so but it may not be. Perhaps Tom Chick should have also mentioned that it wasn't really his cup of tea and that many others will enjoy it more than himself. After all as a reviewer it may be your opinion but one should be aware that it is not just you the game is made for. It is nice however to see a reviewer sticking to their guns.

[MariaHelFutura]

Nah sorry, 40/100 is identical to 4/10.

Maybe IQ tests should be mandatory for reviewing games.

[360ICE]

Or for commenting on N4G.
If you were to remove a decimal in 4,5 you'd end up with 5.0. So 4/10 is less specific than 40/100, even though they're both of the same value.

I'm not saying that this can be applied to reviews and all that, but it is a mathematical fact.

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[Tommykrem]

Actually agree with 360ice (even though 4/10 and 40/100 are the same thing). 4/10 is less specific than 40/100, as it ranges from 35/100 to 44/100, so it does make a difference in this specific situation.

But to answer Starfox811 Tom Chick's rating system does specify that 4/10 means "weak"

[Anarki]

Since when did review sites stop using decimals? If they intended on putting 4.1-4.9 then they would of.

[Human Analog]

Would it really matter if it was 4.1 or 4.9? By rounding it is only a one point swing. For that matter, it actually is only one direction. It already is a #4, it would then only go up to a #5 which is still only 50%. I don't think it would matter much.

The same for 35 or 45. No matter how you look at it, it is a bad score. I personally will NOT be listening to reviews for this game. I loved parts one and two. I am not a blind fanboy though. If part two was not such an improvement of part one then I would have fell off the wagon. Here is hoping part three is at least as good.

[MariaHelFutura]

I have no clue what removing a decimal, the number 5 and an iceburg has anything to do with what im talking about.....

[SilentNegotiator]

"If you were to remove a decimal in 4,5 you'd end up with 5.0. So 4/10 is less specific than 40/100, even though they're both of the same value"

....WUT? They're the same value; you can convert them between each other without changing anything. 4/10 is EQUIVALENT to 40/100.

And your rounding exercise in the first sentence does not mean anything. It doesn't change the fact that 4/10 and 40/100 are the exact same thing.

Don't say that N4G should have IQ tests for posting when you're making stuff up about statistics.

[Human Analog]

What he is trying to say is that you are right. 4/10 is = 40/100. But he is also saying that if they used the 100 point scale, there is more accuracy inherent in the system.

Without using decimals you only have 4 and then 5, nothing between. If you use the 100 point scale then a 42/100 or a 49/100 is possible. Like I said, a 4 or a 5 are both really low. I don't think the extra accuracy is necessary. In my opinion, a 40 is just a bad as a 50.

But I love Uncharted, and they have not let me down yet, so I'll be ignoring reviews.

[mastiffchild]

Without first SPECIFYING that the /10 system doesn't use decimals you cannot say a thing about any possible rounding up though, can you?

Personally,i feel the biggest lesson here, and I despise using them for my own reviews, is that review scores are flawed and that's that. When we get back to reading the words in a review(and one done by a writer with an understanding of the genre he's reviewing) we'll all be better off.

[tehnoob3]

360ice means if your using significant figures which review technically use. 4/10 could mean 49/100 or 41/100.
I remember reading a review on god of war 3 that said it was extremely close to perfect but it was given a 9/10. That 9/10 could mean 98/100, 99/100, or 96/100

[360ICE]

You don't have to assign a score, but it would be clever and all since people tend to actually NOT read the review. AND, you have to consider who this game is made for. You don't review a shooter and conclude with "I don't like shooters - 4/10". You review it for people who would think about buying shooters in the first place, am I right?

Yes. Yes I am.

[Dowie]

Yes. Yes you are.

[Angrymorgan]

If someone reviews a game, and aires their view public, it's gonna get challenged.

If I now said "hey cod mw3 is the worst game in history" I know I'm gonna cause a shit storm, so reviewers can't really complain about disagrees and criticism.

[TKCMuzzer]

I'm sorry but having just completed Uncharted 3 this game should get no lower than a 7/10. Even if it not his cup of tea then the lack of appreciation shown for what has been achieved is self indulging ignorance at it's highest level.
Technically and story telling wise it is all of the highest quality.

He should really be ending by saying " there is no doubt that Uncharted 3 delivers a technical masterclass and demonstrates that story telling can be properly incorporated into a much perceived immature industry. Fans of the first two will be right at home with Drake and his adventures and will be fully fulfilled, for myself as the reviewer it's just not my cup of tea but even I can appreciate a game that's the best at what it does"

There is no such thing as a "professional" reviewer as we are all reviewers because at the end of the day we buy the games.

Uncharted 3, 9.2/10. See there is my score.

[Tommykrem]

Okay, I think everybody is starting to miss the point here.
Starfox811 said that 4/10 might not mean the same for a reviewer as a 40/100, (even though they are mathematically the same value)
Then MariaHelFutura missed the point and said that 40/100 and 4/10 is the same value, which they are, but that was never the point (I think)
Then 360ICE sort of got that point through, but I disagree a little bit and think that reviews are in fact where the values could be different (since the numbers here are hiding subjective values)

Then we all sort of started talking about the numbers instead of the point here: That Starfox thinks it's unfair to sum up an opinion in a number.

Right now there are a lot of disagree because a lot of us are discussing different subjects and misunderstanding each other, so let's just stick to the point.

[aGameDeveloper]

Starfox811 said, "Perhaps Tom Chick should have also mentioned that it wasn't really his cup of tea and that many others will enjoy it more than himself."

Perhaps every reviewer that rates a game a 9 or 10 should also qualify their score, stating, "This game really may not be your cup of tea, and many others will enjoy it less than I did."

Reviews would get pretty boring if they all did that.

[nnotdead]

they do tend to write that in the reviews. sure it may not be that straight forward of a statement, but reading through the review you should be able to tell if you would like that type of game or not.

[ufo8mycat]

He obviously gave it a 4/10 for hits and nothing else, I mean surely this guys taste in games isn't that shit?

[Commander_TK]

Define a "shitty taste".

[TopDudeMan]

When you give uncharted 3 a 4/10. There. That's it. Defined.

[kikizoo]

AV.Club ridiculous blog also gave a 5/10, and metacritic, ignoring tons of tens reviews, are including this blog for the metascore, pathetic.

the 20% worst and better reviews should'nt be included in the metascores (then probably, they would stop giving stupid scores for hits)

[TronEOL]

A 4/10? Yeah, somebody was either searching for hits, or just being a big D-bag by trying to be all "You see, Uncharted CAN get a low score".

Reviews like this shouldn't be taken seriously.

[Michael-Jackson]

Please explain why Infamous 2 also got a 5, another very low score against a PS3 exclusive. Seems fishy to me.

I still think his Low review scores are written specifically to be submitted on N4G, to gain hits and attention. He's also the one who submits them on here to show his hate.

I look forward to see his other PS3 exclusive troll reviews for Starhawk and Twisted Metal. I predict a 4 and 5.

So make sure to keep an eye out for those reviews.

[stevenhiggster]

I dunno about UC3, it doesn't seem to have any of the magic the first 2 did, for me anyway.
It absolutely isn't a 4/10 game though but it's not as perfect as some people would have you believe.
The story and graphics are amazing as usual but the gameplay feels broken (camera controls and aiming) and there are a lot of little features that have been in the first 2 games that are missing here such as the ability to watch the cut scenes in the bonus menu and also all the unlocks you get after finishing the game for your next play through.
I have to wonder how much this game suffered because of the implementation of 3D, as sadly imho it is by far the worst in the Uncharted series. It just felt like a chore to play tbh I wish I had just watched the cut scenes on YouTube and not bothered with the game at all.

[lumley666]

You ain't played it, I'm no lover of shooters I'm an rpg gamer, and u3 is amazing, way better then uncharted 1, and as good as if not better then u2, I'm just past half way and have been blown away by the story. Great job naughty dog. Don't listen to the envy fanboys

[GTRrocker]

Hey man, I agree with you. Uncharted 2 was better, but I think Uncharted 3 multiplayer is better than 2's. I do think Uncharted 3 is a great game though. They just set the bar so high with 2. I am not sure how 3 compares to one. I think that 2 is the best, then 3, then 1. All are great games though. Def worth owning.

[stevenhiggster]

I expected plenty of disagrees for that comment but I didn't even say the game was bad! Yes some parts have felt like a chore to play but over all I do like the game and it is a very very good game, just that IMHO it isn't as good as the first 2!

[aquamala]

I'm only on chapter 8 but although u3 has slightly better graphics than U2, gameplay seems a step backwards. And the plot is so predictable, how many times can drake almost fall off a ledge? So I understand this 4/10 score, not saying I agree.

[Pozzle]

Yeah, but even if someone thinks the gameplay is a step back or thinks the story is predictable...it's hardly worth a mere 4/10. The game isn't practically unplayable. It's still a solid experience.

I mean, just take a look at the average game that is given a 4/10...movie licensed games, games with massive amounts of glitches or gameplay issues, games with repetitive levels and nonexistent stories, etc. Y'know...bargain bin stuff. Uncharted hardly deserves to be there. A 4/10 implies that Uncharted 3 is a below-average game, which it simply isn't. Even if the game isn't the reviewer's cup of tea, that doesn't mean it's a bad game or that it deserves such a low score. I personally don't like racing, but if I was reviewing a good racing game I wouldn't give it a low score just because I don't like racing. I'd have to look at the game objectively.

It makes me wonder if the reviewer has even played many games. Because they would DEFINITELY know the difference between a 4/10 game and Uncharted 3 if they have.

[mastiffchild]

Exactly-how can anyone think his game is as bad as the Thor game?Naughty Bear? That's why you can't take this seriously.

[E2M]

What is the purpose of reviews?? To advise consumers on whether the product is worth their money. HAving said that can anyone honestly say after playing uncharted 3 they didn't enjoy it. Clearly this reviewer is the odd one out because I don't sincerely believe how any can not like this game. The lowest score I would consider this game is an 8 and even that would be an insult to the games greatness

[Alos88]

Why did he give it a ridiculously low score? For hits and giggles.

[MasterCornholio]

The problem that I have with reviews is when they are poorly written like the review from AV. The review from eurogamer gave uncharted 3 an 8 but I respect it because it was extremely well written.

XperiaRay

[TenSteps]

Who's Tom Chick and in what way is he renowned?

[BoneIdle]

reviewers should review the actual game not the game he wants it to be. U3 has small issues with cover and a gameplay mechanic that's 3 games old but its still exactly what naughty dog wanted to make. Not quite U2 but a very solid game. 4/10 is a score for a unplayable game.

[Pozzle]

I agree with this. I'm all for different reviews having different opinions, and I have defended Uncharted 3's lower review scores in the past...but a 4/10 implies that the game is almost unplayable. A 4/10 is usually reserved for games with MAJOR gameplay, graphical and story issues; Games that are glitchy and have massive design issues, yet still have a few good moments that prevent it from completely failing.

[TheWolverine]

Oh man, he is just asking for some random gamer to walk up and thump him one good one... I haven't even had a chance to play it myself but i know for a fact its better than a 4/10. Thats just cold man...

[-MD-]

Random gamers don't normally thump anything.

[Adolph Fitler]

The guy is entitled to his opinion, no doubt, but when it is this far from the 9's & 10's the game has been receiving from other respected reviewers & gaming journalists, then there is no doubt this reviewers motivations have to be questioned.

The fact is that the Unchartered series is at the top of it's game, & if everyone reviewed great games like this waaay below average, then it is bound to hurt sales & developers reputations.
The blood, sweat & passion that ND & other quality developers put into there games (like Team Bondi with LA Noire) shouldn't be scoffed at, & fact is that many film based attributes have been introduced into videogames after the 16bit catridge era ended...& to be honest, it's still in it's infancy. To be honest, I think certain reviewers put to much stock into many of these film attributes, & they seem to either wanna forget, or consciously forget that they are playing a game, not watching a movie. The most stock has to go into gameplay, graphics, sound, performance, controls, etc, etc, & FUN. The cineamatic aspect really needs to take the backseat when it comes to reviews, otherwise these reviewers should p!ss off & review movies.

Don't get me wrong, as I'm the same as the next guy that wants to see storylines, camera angles, dialogue & other cineamatic qualities improve constantly for videogames, but I don't want these things to take precedence over the very reason I play videogames, & that is for game qualities implemented flawlessly to equate to FUN.

So maybe if this guy gave the game an 8, knocking 1 to 2 points off for the attributes he found to be lacking, I could take his review seriously.....Hell, even if he thought the game was only 7 worthy, then fair enough & while I would think he is still 2-3 points off the mark, at least it shows some journalistic integrity, instead of it looking like the review of a fanboy, & his no. 1 Sony hating fan has posted this on N4G's trying to convince us of this Chris clowns journalistic integrity & respect as a reviewer.....but it is laughable when he scores one of the most fun, awesomely controllable, ridiculously well produced game series this gen.

I mean, his equivelant score for GeOW3 would possibly be 2 or 3 out of 10, MW3 would maybe get a 5/10 if lucky, BF3 a 2.5/10, etc, etc.
Hard to take a guy & the site he represents seriously, when he is handing out scores like this to some of the best games not only this gen, but of all time....big call, yes, justified, damn straight as UC just nails so many of my interests in a game it's not funny...It has adventuring through lush enviroments for antique treasures with a protagonist that is pretty darn cool & funny....It's a bit like a 2009-2011 reboot of Indiana Jones.

[plmkoh]

It might be an "opinion" that he/she is entitled when it has just been casually pasted in a comments section or blog, but is it merely an "opinion" when you consider that it will sit on metacritic and be read by 1000's of readers some of whom might be more trusting than not? I think not and it has something to do with "professionalism".

Really you only have to look at journalism outside of video games to see that a journalist doesn't merely write an opinion. For example in my country there is a writer who is actually being sued for writing a politically incorrect article in the largest newspaper in circulation against a racial minority group.

Sure video games doesn't sit in the realms of seriousness as what I have just mentioned, but consider the point that I'm making is that when you have the power to communicate your "opinion" across 1000's of readers in a format that might imply credibility (such as a popular website) you have the duty to be damn careful about what you say. Quite frankly giving a 4/10 for something that's top of it's game, as you have said, is irresponsible and downright derogatory.

[floetry101]

By and large, it seems like anyone that doesn't like Drake's Deception is immediately and unequivocally wrong, as this comment section suggests.

I can't say I agree with the reviewers score, but I'm of the opinion that UC3 is the weakest Uncharted game thus far and probably the biggest disappointment for me this year as far as campaigns go. I'm ready for the disagrees to pile in, in fact, I expect it. I'm only supremely disappointed because I love this series, and I want it to be great. The talk that this critic is biased or making the review for hits makes me laugh every time someone gets offended by an OPINION. It's one big circle of denial.

[tarbis]

Did you even read his review? Surely you have not.

[jimmywolf]

The talk that this critic is biased or making the review for hits makes me laugh every time someone gets offended by an OPINION. It's one big circle of denial.

not very bright are you? they did it for attention plain an simply, if giving UC3 a good score make you a sheep an you don't want follow then don't review the game. just because you have a opinion does not make you entitled too piss on any game you want in review an not have negative feedback

[radphil]

@floetry101

There is NO problem in which you feel that it's the weakest of the 3 and that's ok.

But honestly, given with the way how a scoring system is, and with mathmatics, 5.5/10 is the middle, or average(this is math now, so 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10/10), and by setting a 4 means that you're saying the game is below average.

The issue with many reviewers, is that the score they set, does not stay consistent with what they say.

[AntiTroll]

Just so we're clear.

Uncharted 3 > Uncharted 2

[OpenGL]

If talking about the single player campaigns, I disagree. With that said Uncharted 3 is a more complete package overall due to the inclusion of split-screen co-op, and the graphics are better.

It is also still a fantastic game and deserves a much higher score than 4/10.

[HarryMasonHerpderp]

The guys just taking the piss with 4/10
even if you dont like the game it should get a 7/10
for a technical standpoint at least.
The guys just trying to get attention
and its worked.

[Codeman420]

OK who is this beekjack site again???????

[THC CELL]

Who ever gave uncharted 3 a 4 is really really pushing it now. and there site will only be blessed with xbox and pc fanboys from now on

[Rageanitus]

The aiming is awkward.... because it has no auto aim ;)

give 4/10 means it is not playable and it is not a game.

I would only understand a low score.... if a product is released exactly the SAME time as another product with the EXACT target market just for comparisons sake in determining which product is better. But honestly there is no game out there there that compares to UC3 when it comes to a nice balance of adventure, story, action, and cinematic feel.... well UC 1 and 2.

I would only expect this type of opinion/score when comparing games like dantes inferno vs god of war 3. Good thing dantes was released 1>2 months earlier.

[creepjack]

You know, all these reviewers get it crap if their score is lower than the larger publications, but are they really the ones that are wrong? Go to the Gamefaqs forums and most of what you will be reading about from the gamers that are actually playing the game are the problems people have with the controls, odd graphics and animations, and an over all lack of polish compared to the 2nd game.

Now, maybe a 4/10 is a blatant attempt for hits, but the game sure doesn't sound like the 9/10 or 10/10 so many other sites are giving it. There is obviously are far bigger problem with overly inflated review scores than the occasional lower than normal score, but where is the outrage toward that? Oh yeah, it's no where to be seen because review scores are nothing more than fanboy fuel for their stupid loyalist war.

[funkykerbunkle]

A 4/10 is an insult. Granted you may prefer racing games or the simplicity found in Pop Cap or iphone games, but to say Uncharted 3 is actually worthy of a 4/10 score means you're either being a jerk for the sake of being a jerk, or you don't know anything about games. The gameplay is finely tuned, the presentation is the best that video games have to offer as of now, and the story is irrelevant at that point because even if you have no intrest in the characters you should be able to recognize the overall quality and respect it. That doesn't even take into account the graphical quality, which has no screen tearing, pop in, or slowdown. So yeah, I respect everyone is entitled to an opinion, but every opinion has to be rooted in some truth or else it's worthless.

[asmith2306]

The fact that you said "the story is irrelevant at that point" nullifies your argument. The gameplay is NOT finely tuned, you obviously haven't seen the ton of people complaining about the aiming (even if you can get used to it its not finely tuned)?

[asmith2306]

After reading the guys review I can completely understand where hes coming from. I myself would give the game an 8/10. Nearly everything he wrote I put in a "frustrations" post on the ND forums. I love the Uncharted series and I dont think U3s campaign was as tight as U2s as a whole although it had moments that outdid it completely. Too much boring repetition in the gun fights and fist fights; and like he says, you murder 20 or so fully armored mercenaries and then get your ass kicked by a guy in a suit... yeah right. It was always same ol same ol. Your a fanboy if you cant see that, nuff said.

Edit: I still dont think he should have scored it 4/10. That is WAY too low from what apart from the annoyances is a great game.

[ForROME]

Agreed; not as good as UC2 way better than UC1 and by far a solid game I give it an 8.5/10

[Pintheshadows]

Oh joy, another reviewer who plays games to hate on them. How. F*cking. Original. /s

[noxeven]

Who cares, everyone who enjoyed the game enjoyed the game. if this dude didn't like it power to him. The number system for reviewing is re-tarted and the abc whatever system is as well. I read reviews for the option of seeing what other thought about it not the final score

[Pikajew]

He didn't like the game. No reason to get mad over it

[pyramid]

beacuse of the akward aiming it definetively didnt deserve a 10.Uncharted 1 and 2 had excellent aiming.I would give it 8/10

[ZeV]

It's simply an troll/anger review...That's all ! Uncharted3 as many games shows minor problems,but it's a great game,an awesome game !

[EditorAtGNG]

All of his complains were legit, albeit a tad obvious... the problem is he went all out and exaggerated every point in order to make a justification for em.

I do however disagree with his continuous bashing of Uncharted as series for "trying to be like a Holywood movie." You shouldn't bash something just because it fits in a niche you despise. There's a simple solution - don't play the game or make an obligation not to review a game from said genre if you have a strong hostility towards it.

It's unjustifiable to condemn a game to a low score for being what it is and doing it flawlessly.

In the end, it all boils down to personal opinions, and this review shows just how far a person can go to justify his own preferences. The author went in expecting something, which he clearly didn't get and is upset because of it. I for one, played the game expecting to see some incredible cinematic gameplay-action and movie-like moments and the game delivered 150 %.

PS: The flood of PS3 fanboys at the comment section of the review was full of lulz. I can understand people not supporting the points raised in the review, but come on... Can't they at least TRY to elaborate why he is wrong... Jesus.

[Foxhound922]

I understand that people have the right to an opinion but seriously? a 4?

[llMurcielagoll]

Haters are gonna hate!

[cvflyboy]

just from the fact that he gave La Noir a 5/10 and U3 a 4/10 just shows how much of an idiot this guy really is. This guy thinks La Noir is better then U3? XD

[Saleem101]

Uncharted is best game out right now, this guy trying get hits...

[Sarcasmology]

What's funny is that they do this for hits, yet I never click the links when it's obviously not worth the effort. Even if I did, Adblock is up, so no revenue for you :P

[sjaakiejj]

Yes I can accept a persons opinion, but a 4/10 does not reflect the game's quality in any way. To put it into contrast, he gave Dungeon Siege 3 the same score, a game that's nowhere near the quality and enjoyment you get out of Uncharted.

[Robotronfiend]

Sure I could feel the rails, but I knew it would be like that before release. Not everything that is heavily scripted and on rails is bad.

Roller coasters are good. So is Uncharted 3. Scripted yes. Rails yes. Excitement yes. Excitement every second, no.

I still like some of those FMV games. Why don't we have a remake of Night Trap (Sega CD) done by Suda 51???

[Chuk5]

Uncharted 3, by all merits of what makes a good game is phenomenal. Seriously we need to remove scores so these "jim sterlian" can't just throw random numbers around.

[hot111]

Tom Chick nailed it this time.

[Noticeably_FAT]

Who cares? plenty of good games get low scores from one place or another. I'm sure if your a fan of the series a 1/10 isn't going to mean you'll personally have less fun with the game.

I seriously think people just want perfect scores across the board strictly for bragging rights...

[Panthers]

Why does everyone justify giving UC3 a 4/10 because it is his opinion? A professional review needs to be a lot more objective than just some opinion. There are aspects of a game that are fact and cannot be disputed as an opinion. These aspects alone make UC3 much better than a 4/10.

[CrustifiedDibbs]

uc3 doesnt deserve the 4 that it got for sure, but it also doesnt deserve the 10's its getting. production values, story, and acting are the best in gaming, but the gameplay is mediocre at best (that might be generous). i still would give the game an 8 or 8.5, but the perfect scores just arent justified imo. especially since the mp is about a 6 overall.

fanboys like to say uc3 has been nitpicked to death, but i think it has been given quite a few passes by reviewers as well. ive played through once and i just dont see a 10/10 game.

[CrustifiedDibbs]

im not calling every ps3 user a fanboy. im calling the hundreds of people that flocked to any review under a 9 to bash the review, a fanboy.

plus... somehow me saying the game is an 8.5 is proof of the game not being my cup of tea. uc is by far the best of the ps3 exclusives, but people act like the game is some kind of god that can do no wrong. bad mp and shoddy gameplay are plenty to take points off for. it would be for any other game, but not uc3 apparently.

[Flewid638]

Haha. Fanboys. They think it's humanly impossible not to like something. THe human brain is scientifically incapable of hating something that most other people enjoy. Wow.

Look, all of the things he lists that are sh*tty about Uncharted are the same reasons why I love Uncharted. There are just some people who DONT want QTE's, cutscenes and the like in their games. I know plenty of gamers who skip all that because....well.....they just want to play.

I swear, this site is for a bunch of dictators in training. "Like what I Like or You Shall Perish!!" Ugh...

Anyway...the game is awesome....for me.

[godofboobees]

With a name like tom chick his manhood needs to be investigated

[from the beach]

From his review, on Uncharted and Tomb Raider:

"Uncharted took the Tomb Raider formula and improved on it with meaningful characters, latest-gen graphics, and hearty gunplay.

"But why does it keep Tomb Raider's acrobatics when it treats them as such a pointless formality?

"In Tomb Raider, you jumped and climbed as a way of exploring the world and solving puzzles.

"Lara Croft's moves were how you interacted with elaborate mechanisms. All that is gone in Uncharted 3.

"Now you push Drake along rails to reach a point where you press the triangle button that pulls a switch that opens the door to either a canned action sequence, more climbing, or a cover-based shooter. It's all busy work, and it's all so rote."

Gaming now vs gaming then.

[StifflerK]

I first found about Tom Chick a while back when he gave a harsh review for a game I liked .

He actually replied to a comment I made about it.

Basically he's not the one who gives the score.
It's the site (in this case Honest Gamers).

[Tose]

No one cares about this that's why theres 111 butthurt comments in 3 hours, but no one cares..really

[Adolph Fitler]

4/10 can be justified by a Sony hating fanboy....But seriously, 4/10 is a score synomous with the worst of the worst games. If he thought the game was very average & nothing spectacular at all, it would still warrant a 5-6 out of 10, but a 4 signifies a very piss poor, below average, horrible game....I mean, if you knocked off 1 mere point, or even fraction of a point, it would take the score to a 3.5 or a 3.8/10.......Now anyone in there right mind, even someone that despises the action/adventure genre would be stretching it to score this game below a 6 or 7.

I mean, lets just look at the base material here for what it is, a videogame, pure & simple, & just off the merit of a videogame alone, the game is visually incredible, beautiful sweeping vista's & enviroments with state of the art weather effects, awesome character models with fluid as can be animations, highly fluid, smooth, ultra responsive controls that cater for new players pick up & play style, as well as the abaility for more experienced gamers to master awesome gun play, with a nice mixture of duck & cover, stealthy & run'n'gun gameplay. Also a massive ammount of single player content, as well as the online component both competative & co-op.

Naughty Dog invested a lot of time, hard work, money, passion & unrivalled talent into this awesome game, then some hack, faggot, carries on like a pork chop, by insulting there hardwork, along with all those gamers who know a good game when they see it, whether or not it is within the confines of a genre that appeals to them, or not.
I mean, I'm not a RPG fan in any way, but I fully understand & agree with 9/10 & 10/10 reviews when they are that widespread that the games greatness can't be denied.

This guy awarding a 4/10 to a game of UC3's calibre & class, shows him for the joke he is, & he probably should be delegated to movie reviews of Steven Segal & Jean Claude Van Damne's latest thrillers.. lol.
The gaylords justifying this score, regardless of what the tools words say in review, are the same turds that would cry foul if Gears Of War 3 was awarded a 2/10 by this assclown, or Zelda: Skyward Sword a 3.6/10. And if this guy can only afford a 4 for UC3, then he should have scored Gears 3 a 2/10 & Zelda a 3.6 comparatively as these 2 chartbusters, were also great, huge, non-dissapointing games, that had few faults or bad points, but they did have some, & moreso than UC3.

[sashimi]

free speech..isn't a right its a privilege ,someone should take away this fools free speech.

[zero_gamer]

I suspect a 1/10 review incoming.

[GraveLord]

Don't care whether or not you didn't like the game. A 4/10 is just plain trolling. Bad journalism.

[megalonagyix]

Respect the opinion. Bit harsh maybe, but It's not as good as the most of the guys says. Sure, they've added some nice sugarcoating, but we've already seen everything.

"Two years after Thieves, Uncharted's gameplay mechanics and conventions are no longer dated; they're borderline archaic." so true. I'm expecting a big improvement in gameplay in the next game, rather then doing the same stuff all the time with different corridors. Expecting Resident Evil 4 big. My rating: 7/10

[knightoftears]

Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. Personally I don't care what anyone else thinks, TO ME the game gets a 9.5/10. This is the internet. All it takes is one bad review for people to go crazy and storm this dude's site...just like he intended just to get hits on the site. His true feeling of the game is probably exactly the opposite of what he rated it, but on the internet for website hits he played the reverse psychology card. *goes back to playing Uncharted 3*

[zodiac909]

I don't give a sh*t...i'm playing U3 right now and loving every second of it. ^_^

[Snowii]

he can give it a 1 for all i care

each one has his own opinion and reviews are meant to give you a picture of what the game is like

yet its only one guy

[Krakn3Dfx]

Who's Tom Chick?

[KratosWitAGun]

Who's Tom Chick?

[KillerPwned]

So some guy gives U3 a 4/10 whats the big deal? I could give Gears of War 3 a 4/10 but why should that matter to other people? People these days say the craziest things :P

[Jocosta]

I think instead of putting a number on the review they should just have a scale of don't buy/rent/recommend/highly recommend.

[iliimaster]

ive only played chapter 1 and its amazing ive been trying to unlock the m9 !@ then i will dominate these reveiws are a joke and just makes that whole company look like a zoo

[CYBERHATER]

Yeah that is to low. Its not GOTY but it definitely deserves nothing lower than an 9.0. 8.5 at its worst.

[SovereignSnaKe]

Remember when you used to get Reviews from the top 5 sites and we would formulate OUR OWN opinion. Now in the past 2 years a new game comes out and 30 different "sites" (people with to much time on their hands, and a terrible taste in games are making websites and posting shitty reviews just to get hits!

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

LEAVE UNCHARTED 3 ALONE!!!

[JonnyBigBoss]

I think it's a 10/10, and that's all that matters to me.

[pcz]

its reviews will have a large audience.

some reviewers will use this as an opportunity to get a lot of attention to themselves by writing a controversial review.

It worked.

[banner]

im still getting this game...

question though.. whats up with a game that has been getting 10's needing a patch for....... aiming issues?

i dont know much about the issue but that seems to be a pretty big issue to just over look and still give it a 10 but a 4 still seems to be real low.

[Ranich]

I love all the butt-hurt fanboys. "Oh no, they didn't rate this game a 10/10!" Who cares? It's THEIR opinion. Not everyone will like the game(s). I personally couldn't find a reason to like them, hence why I'm going to be selling the dual set on eBay.

[death2smoochie]

Sometimes a cigar is JUST a cigar....

[Relientk77]

Ok whoever you are, you officially do not matter in the world of video games, if u gave Uncharted 3, a 4. This must be a joke review lol

[Der_Kommandant]

His name is Tom Chick? OMG

[Bleach]

It says nothing about the fans, it's not a 4/10 game. The reviewer should rethink his profession.

[ablecain]

The review makes good points regarding the story- the plot is flawed in all of the ways he mentioned, and it's something I noticed on my playthrough- but that doesn't warrant a 4/10. I don't understand why he spent the first part of the review complaining that games are too story-focused these days with not enough gameplay, but then he critiques the game almost entirely based on the story flaws. If he only had fun in chapters 12-15, like he says, then I don't know what to tell him. Did he play it on easy, or something?

The guy is trying to get hits. Just because it is cliche to point that out, doesn't mean it isn't true.

[mjsmufc99]

this game is a 10/10 hands down! the story the gameplay the graphics are awesome and some of the levels are just incredible and mesmerizing, the reviewer if you can call him that is just an idiot looking for hits, Its getting brilliant review scores but not as good as 2 because its not as big of a leap as 1 to 2 was! but ive heard some reviewers complaining that its set in the desert! i mean really! if they did it in snow or set similar to 1 or 2 they'd complain for not having enough ideas but yet they criticise for having it in the desert but my two cents is that this is the best game this generation and is hands down the best trilogy computer games have seen and now i cant wait for uncharted 4 in 2013 to see what happens with Drake,Elena, Sully, Chloe and the welcomed Cutter BRING IT ON!

[DwightOwen]

Best review I've read of the game so far, although I don't how he determned the score to be a 4. I was expecting a 7 honestly.

[ginganinja]

To me, the review reads like he started out with a score and tried to write the review to justify it, and failed.
Even in spite of his criticisms the score sits at odds with the tone of the review - which suggests a decent but flawed game.
What struck me as odd about the review was the things he chose to criticise;
1. the story. so far i'm not feeling it as much as U2 but it's still streets ahead of most of the forgettable dross out there.

2. the bit about Drake soaking up all these bullets and rockets during the game but is stopped by one bloke pointing a pistol at him in a cutscene...
really ? that's a problem ?
If the author wanted i could start writing a list of every other game out there that uses the same or a similar trope and i'd still be writing it when U4 came out.

[Darkfiber]

Score is a little low but I agree with most of the review. All third person shooters are weak and offer very little, the Uncharted series is no except. Idiots like most of the people posting here are blinded by its graphics. If it looked like a PS2 game, everyone would say the gameplay was terrible.

[Ulf]

Lol @ Tom Chick. What a pathetic attempt to get hits for his articles.

[hadriker]

I read the review and he brings up some very valid points about the UC series and the genre as a whole. He doesn't really like the fact the game has turned into a 10 hour long movie with some gunplay thrown in between. It is a valid criticism. He didn't like the story he explains why.

It is the job of a critical reviewer to give their opinion, and to back up that opinion with good reasoning. He did a good job of doing it. Now I don't agree with the score either, (i would give in an 8 or 8.5) but that doesn't make the actual review any less true.

[BoNeSaW23]

Click beefjack.com + under Read Full Story and rate the website people. This trolling article and site need more WTF? and NO.

[SSultan]

Well I never liked Uncharted, ever. I don't think the series should really see pass an 8.5/10. I am also being very generous. At least 4/10 is way more realistic than 10/10 and for that I give two thumbs up to the review.

[gotgame1985]

i agree with you sort of both this is a clear case of a fanboy, Even though i am a 360 fan i even got to admit that there no way ucharted 3 should get a 4/10. i would give it a 8.5/10 and give gears 3 a 8/10 only beacuse uc3 game play is a little more diverse.

[SSultan]

It's funny you bring up Gears 3. A game that I thought I would hate. I give gears a Solid 9/10. I must say with PS3 really stepping up its game, I have enjoyed my 360 a lot more. It's puzzling.

[Rhythmattic]

Its funny how you pretend about owning a PS3, and being so "torn" to the 360..

Caught out dude.

http://n4g.com/news/856533/...

[SSultan]

I do not own my own PS3 anymore. I can't call it mine. But it is right next to my 360 and I do use it more than the owner. (Who is in Afghan right now). I do like how Rhythmattic had literally nothing better to do than to put on his fake private investigator badge and try to shun someone for their opinion.

[Rhythmattic]

Lucky for you, you never liked uncharted..

Lucky for us aren't on PSN.

[KidMakeshift]

I would give it a solid B

The gameplay felt like a step back (didn't like the new shooting mechanics, platforming and over all movement felt disjointed, recycled events: shootout, platforming, shootout, run sequence). It followed a very obvious formula and lacked the imagination of Uncharted 2 (City of Sand was just Atlantis but sand instead of jungle).

The game did look great even though it was a little jaggy. Story and acting were top notch, Locations were a little dull to me.

[P_Bomb]

Dull? I find that surprising even just considering the variety in the elements. I'm not sure what other terran locations you wouldn't find dull considering it had themes in earth, water, fire and air while many contemporary games are just shades of rust. What's left but Drake in space? And for that we have Mass Effect.

[KidMakeshift]

Whatever. If you want great franchises to become bland and redundant then keep kissing the developers asses.

I have no problem pointing out the things I think are a step back instead of moving forward and I think Uncharted 3 was a big step back. It wasn't as bad as Uncharted 1 but the gameplay is definitely becoming lackluster to me.

And yes I think some of the levels were dull. It's the predictable and tiresome platforming that made them boring to me.

Everyone has a different opinion and this is just mine so disagree all you want.

[PixL]

Are you afraid of clowns? I've just got through the first three chapters and this is a truly remarkable game, a next-gen experience on this-gen platform. No hype here, I'm in love with it.

[kwiksilver99]

a review complaining abt what uc3 doesnt do, and not commending what it does well isnt much of a review ,its more of a nitpicking session.reviews should base the score on what the game is,and how it plays and not what it isnt and what i could or should be.why is that so hard?

[Hyperbomb69]

lol these guys are obviously fishing for some hits...

just the fact that they made it to the front page on this site and they got us talking means they got what they wanted. UC3 is an amazing game!

I really hate how its only the PS3 exclusives that get this kind of crap from troll reviewers...

[DeathAvengers]

Why do you guys get so worked up about this? PS has many great exclusives and when someone gives one a bad score you all /rage. Personally, I grew up with Playstation, then I went over to Xbox. I do miss having so many choices for exclusives, but I'm happy with the quality of the ones we have now. I wouldn't be that mad if someone's opinion was different from mine. I remember when Halo: Reach came out and a lot of my friends who owned Ps3s would say. " Oh, aliens aliens aliens aliens. That's why Ps3 is better because all you guys have is aliens." Given, that made me a bit mad because the series HALO has really defined the Sci-fi FPS genre. Uncharted IMO has to be one of the best 3rd person adventure series to date. Chances are, UC3 is following the tradition of greatness. Please just ignore this BeefJack guy. He may have actually disliked the game, or is just trying to gain some publicity. Don't give him what he wants.

[veChuy]

this game is just hype same gameplay, nothing new, horrible graphics running at 720p crappy resolution and some reviews gave 10 in graphics omg ps3 fanboys reviewing ps3 games what we can expect.

[DeathAvengers]

Looks pretty damn good actually.

[Megaton]

Thanks BeefJack and N4G for giving this guy exactly what he wanted, massive attention.

[Xenomorph]

Obviously its for a failing website. That's why it was stealthily noted about a former employee of the website and now has front page on N4G.

Also reviewer is an idiot.

[MultiConsoleGamer]

This is just the Gertsman Zelda review debacle all over again.

Basically this... A writer knows this game will get almost universally positive reviews. So in order to drive traffic to their site, they deliberately give it a controversial review believing this is the best way to get get traffic and set themselves apart.

Some people believe there is no bad press. Those people are idiots. You can do yourself a tremendous disservice. And bad press creates brand poison. Remember, Gertsman would eventually get fired from his job. And although he wound up on GiantBomb, no one listens to him aside from the fanboys who hate Nintendo. He's become a pathetic niche reviewer catering to the hateful and the stupid, also known as NeoGAF.

[stonecold3]

just finished this game last nigh t it was awsome?

[ZeV]

Clowns article,made by a foolish guy ! This game is simply awesome !

[Papertiger]

This was just some poorly written flamebaiting article vouching for some free damned publicity from a FORMER EMPLOYEE of honestgamers towards not only his site BEEFJACK.COM (who believe that gears of war 3 was better than uncharted 3) but also the site he used to work for which tom chick happens to work for as well.

Shit like this is why I believe gaming journalism has gone down the shitter. Where its about having a voice and providing insight to some, Its all about controversy and what generates the most hits to others. Articles like these are the latter.

And WE ALL, including myself have fallen right into the pit. Works for them.

[ZBlacktt]

Tom Chick.. who the hell knows this guy? Or even cares? I think reviews are dumb as hell anyway. They have never ever changed my OWN opinion over the last 30 years of being a very hardcore gamer. Never take the word of some other person like this. Him giving this game a 4 means he just doesn't get it. Or sucks at it and is mad. Either way, it gets him the attention he wants. Look at 99% of all other review scores for this game. Base it off that and not this clown. But like I said, be your own judge and play them yourself.

[Gam3rSinceBiRTH]

A 4/10 is not justified, but is a perfect 10/10 justified? Uncharted 3 a perfect game? I don't think so. A 9 would be the better score. But that's just my lil opinion. :)

[Fel08]

Don't feed the troll.

[Dark_Legend]

I just got the Platinum and can tell you, that this is at least > 9

[Big_Dom]

Heaven forbid anyone having an opinion. The Sony fantards are out with pitchforks and torches.

[smashcrashbash]

A 4/10 should be given to a game that is virtually unplayable, with bad story, bad graphics, horrible dialogue, tons of glitches, short campaign, lousy MP etc. UC3 is none of these things. A 4/10 means it barely qualifies as a game which many people have stated otherwise. I never understand where these scores come from when PS3 exclusives come around. It's like reviewers wake up from a coma or something. Suddenly every aspect of the game from cutscenes to dialogue to menus become a score lowering excuse.

FPS stories are usually thread bare at best but when KZ3 came out suddenly the story was all everyone went on about. No one questions the BS stories of other well known FPSs. And now we keep hearing UC3 is linear when so many games are basically 'run in a straight line to the next fire fight' and no one questions them. Suddenly UC3 is the black sheep of linearity and needs to be punished and made an example of with lower scores.because they didn't reinvent the wheel or push the envelope. Typical

[RealtorMDandDC]

I'm currently playing Uncharted 3....I'm very close to the final chapter one more to go...

I am a pure fan of the Uncharted series...

Dude was very tough in the review tho...4/10 is a Hit Review.(I actually read the review) I feel he was fishing in all honesty..

The reviewer complain " You are almost literally pushing him, as surely as you push a truck in one of Uncharted 3's many non-puzzling puzzles. Push him through stretches of exposition, through flashbacks, through hallucinations, through wilderness, through crevices, up walls, along railings. In the climbing sequences, which have zero sense of exploration or uncertainty, you push Drake up a wall much as you might push a child up a jungle gym to help him feel a sense of accomplishment."

It's a video game.........?!? that what you have to do

It's hard to be a gamer and play Uncharted and not like it...Uncharted 3 did things I never really think was possible in a video game...

I really really like Uncharted 3...All I have to say is if you own a PS3 I highly recommend you at least take the time and check it out....

Uncharted 3 is an adrenaline rush....pure and simple...

I will give it a 9/10.....

[dcortz2027]

Light your torches and grab your pitchforks guys, we are coming for you Tom Chick!

[Angry-Gamer]

we have all been trolled by an unknow website who seek some hit on the website. Seriously, who go on a dayly basis on that honnestgamer website?
They didnt had any credibility and by giving u3 a 4/10 they just prove that they will never have some.

This is just another pathetic case of "lets give a low score to a praised game so people will talk about us"

[palaeomerus]

Tom Chick and Scott Jones at AV club. Who exactly are they writing for? Who is supposed to appreciate their point of view? Who wants to purchase games based on their opinions? Who benefits from strange hyper critical reviews that go out of their way to dump on popular sequels to games that have reasonably long campaigns, have high production values, likable characters, nice action set pieces, simple puzzles, a coherent plot, fun dialogue, and decent controls? Who wants to read the work of critics who routinely end up with an opinion that is almost opposite of most other critic's ?

[InTheLab]

I can honestly say that a reviewer must hate games in order to give a game like UC3 a 4 out of 10. That's Kane and Lynch status. That's Quantum Theory status.

I didn't bother with the review. I've played through a good bit of the game and can't find anything that would warrant such a low score...which falls back on the reviewer either hating TPS, platforming, cutscenes, pirates, treasure, or gaming in general.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

Reviews are PERSONAL OPINIONS and NOT FACT!

where the f**k do gamers get off on giving all this backlash?

It's our right to have opinion and choice...

I absolutely HATE the Mass Effect series which is touted as pretty amazing, does that mean you can't enjoy it? NO

Play your games and stfu you cry babies, if you guys love the game whats it even matter if they hate it?

Uncharted is my 1st fav. franchise this gen (loving 3, it gets better as is progresses... wasn't really feeling the beginning). But Gears of War is my close 2nd!

[PirateThom]

As someone who finished Uncharted 3 and is a massive fan of the series, let me break down my view.

It may not be perfect but, as I said in another story, it is everything that we love about gaming. It's fun, it's engaging, it's entertaining and it makes you want to play it. I honestly don't care what opinion people have of the game, but not a single of the "negative" reviews match my experience and, as such, come off as reviewers FORCING low scores for hits. Maybe they genuinely don't like the series, but when a game has so many scores in the 10s and 9s and scores of 5s and 4s come along from two sources, questions should be asked and all review scores need to be justified and these reviews do not do that. Eurogamer got a lot of heat as well, but that review justified the score, the lower reviews do not and I can only assume they are going for hits.

[tiffac008]

10) Super Mario Galaxy 2
9) Call of Duty: Black Ops
8) Transformers: War for Cybertron
7) Heavy Rain
6) God of War III
5) Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit
4) Halo: Reach
3) Mass Effect 2
2) Red Dead Redemption
1) Starcraft II

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

- That's last year. So don't be surprise about how this guy makes his reviews, remember this is the same guy that gave Gears of War a C+ and LA Noire a 5/10. I think he also gave Fallout: New Vegas a low score and hates Duex Ex.

So yeah he is famous for being infamous most of the time.

[InTheLab]

So he's like a not funny Yahtzee?

[Jonah_Reese]

Pretty much answers everything about him, freakin fake gamer hipster.

[Whackedorange]

If you give this game a 4 out of 10 = sony hater.
If you give this game a 10 out of 10 = sony lover.

Graphically Uncharted 3 is one of the best looking games out there but i feel the aiming could be better and for that this game is around a 9. Its really good but not perfect. This is my opionion though and i know others have other opinions of the game

[Tigerfist]

My oh my... A reviewer with balls? And with good writing mixed with solid arguments too?

Fuck me in the neck!

PS: Read the whole thing and reach your own conclusions. Ignore the numbers if you don't have the balls to take it.

[Raoh]

LOL

Last time I heard his name was for giving Deus Ex a horrible score, stop giving this idiot credibility and hype..

If he's giving UC3 a 4/10 then I expect his reviews of halo's, cod's, etc to be about 1 out 10, if not he's just a trying to make a name.. F' em

[mastershredder]

People are getting bent out of shape over nothing. Who cares about a review score or what someone else's opinion is? Just because someone posts/prints it, that's what it is? Come on. Just enjoy the game.

[stubbed_out]

Absolutely terrible justification...for everything he hates about the game he openly praises other parts that alone don't merit such a low score. It's as if his review reads out at around 7 then he shoves in a 4 just to be 'alternative'.

And this can't be taken on a single game basis, taking into consideration every other game he has reviewed he's clearly just vying for attention; congratulations Mr Chick, you're currently more hated than Bobby Kotick.

[younglj01]

Lol if UC3 is an 4/10 then what will he give MW3?

And tha reason I mention MW3 is because I have a little cousin and he only plays CoD,Madden,2K on his 360.His mother sent him over here too get her mail.He stayed for 20 mins watching me playing.And tha whole time I was playing all he was saying is "this is just like a movie".He even was spotting treasure for me.

So if UC3 can have that amount of impact on someone on their first glance at tha game.Tha Young Drake scene had him hype.14 years old and he felt like he was watching an movie.What other game can do that too a child?

[StarWolf]

yea because graphics mean everything

[younglj01]

Graphics wasnt even mention its was all about tha story and tha flow of tha scenes.Not everyone thinks about graphics.Yes I notice how beautiful tha graphics was.But my little 14 cousin could have cared less.

[upallnightgamer]

Uncharted 3 may fall short of the gold its predecessor had, but there is no way on Earth it gets 4/10.

[Bolts]

I love Uncharted but I enjoyed this review. To be precise we need more critical reviews from opinionated source rather than fanboys and cooperate whores (IGN, PC Gamer). Reviews are completely pointless if everyone tow the line.

Ultimately he's dead on. There's a clear disconnect between the Drake in cut scenes and the video game Drake. It's like they live in two different world. The cut scene Drake is human, fragile, a every man that makes him so likable. The video game Drake is a human tank with robo grip and spider like reflexes that can survive through a 1000 cliff hanger quick time events with no worst for ware.

I never thought about this until he brought it up. After a few dozen of close calls the cliff hanger moments just got old. Oh, Drake almost fall to his doom, again, except he managed to hang on with the tip of his fingers, again. Yay.

[trouble_bubble]

*taps on the shoulder* it's a videogame. Gameplay and cut scenes ARE two different things. Revelations!

Two different charachters though? Guess you missed all the gameplay on the boat and in the desert where Drake is animated quite human and fragile like. Balancing, stumbling and falling down from exhaustion. That's an extension of the cutscenes, not a disconnect. You literally have to keep the analog stick held down or he collapses and crawls. There's even a gameplay scene where a window slams on his fingers and he winces. Gameplay. Like during the chase where you get a face full of door and window.

So uh, ya there's a difference between being opinioned and being a blind moron. 1000 quick time events? Never falls down? Hmmm...which category does that fall into, lol? Guy in the washroom in the opening scene knocks you down hard if you don't counter, making you stumble walk back. All gameplay.

[xstreetsweeperx]

I've only played single player on Uncharted 1 Not so sure about what the third one has to offer as of right now but I'm sure 4.0 is probably injustice.

[Trekster_Gamer]

One thing this review does, warns everyone to avoild any further articles from this flamebait wannabe journalist.

[Ch1d0r1]

Tom should work for Eurogamer...

[Dfooster]

Not read the review or played the game but if he considers LA noire to have been an over hyped piece of crap then I'm right behind him. It takes more than facial tech to make a good game and sadly LA noire was deeply flawed.

[BABY-JEDI]

Thankfully these MORONS don't have a say in Naughty Dog..

[Jdub895O]

lol i totally agree. This game was horrible. Poor controls and multiplayer laggy as heck.. I didnt like this game. I want my money back! Tomb Raider was SO MUCH BETTER!!!

[0321]

HOW DARE THEM! Seriously though, That is a horrible rating D=

[b_one]

Anyone noticed some kind of input lag when targeting?
also camera play looks like "3d ready"

[SCDave]

to be plain and simple... A review is Not suppose to be an opinion article, it is suppose to be an unbiased (as much as possible!) rating about how the game looks, the performance, the storyline, and multiplayer aspects.

[LewisDenby]

If every review read like that, I'd cry.

[kobe8ph]

if I had a sniper rifle, I'd shoot you in the head TWICE then on the nuts!

[Ocean]

4/10?....the guy has issues and as such should be ignored completely.

I wonder how many of you visted that site...judging by 5 pages of lively debate here i would say quite a few gave him hits.

Articles like that are designed to wind you up and create arguements

[TwistedMetal]

You give a 4/10 to something like superman 64, iron man the game, or to those other cheap wii party type games, etc and any person who likes games at all and follows games knows this. i would like to see his other reviews to see if the one of uncharted is consistent with them.

[IHateYouFanboys]

this review basically is my opinion of the UC series in a nutshell, although i wouldnt go so far as to give it a 4/10. id go a solid 7/10.

theyre not BAD games, but theyre really pushing the lower boundary of what a "game" is IMO. like the reviewer pointed out, most of the time youre simply holding a direction and pressing jump or shoot. platforming is mind numbingly easy for example - theres NEVER, and i repeat, NEVER more than one way to go, and you can NEVER miss 95% of the jumps as they just trigger pre-scripted jumping animations.

like the article says, when youre not doing that youre just watching "cinematic set piece" after "cinematic set piece" where your inputs have very little impact on the game.

I like games where im in control nearly 100% of the time. playing through Uncharted 1 and 2 felt like I was watching a corny action adventure movie where i had to get up and tell the characters what direction to walk in every now and then. it just wasnt what i want out of a video game. same way that heavy rain would get a 2/10 from me, and how i highly disliked MGS4 (but LOVED the original and 2 and 3, though 2 not as much). i play games to actually play them, not have them play themselves.