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Gamespot: Uncharted 3 Review

Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception continues where its predecessor left off, delivering a memorable adventure that pleases on all fronts.

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-Alpha4559d ago (Edited 4559d ago )

First time I can remember this gen or last when a 10/10 on IGN didn't mean a 10/10 on Gamespot.

DarkTower8054559d ago

I think the leap from Uncharted to U2 was so big, people were expecting the same leap from U3. When you reach a state of perfection there's only so much more you can do. I think that's where the 9/10s come in, in no way is it a bad score, in fact it's still an excellent score, but in a way U3 and ND are victims of their own success if that makes sense. That's my take anyway for what it's worth.

Ezio20484559d ago (Edited 4559d ago )

you are right pal...:)
Still i believe Naughty Dog has got what it deserved...a 10 from IGN.

UC3....FTW~!~

colonel1794559d ago (Edited 4559d ago )

That logic is flawed because if the leap from Uncharted was so big, that impressed reviewers, and gave the game a 10, then Uncharted 3 is the same or better than Uncharted 3 (we all know is better) they should still give the game a 10 since there is no higher score.

If reviewers are actually basing the score on the leap the game made, then they are completely wrong! The game is not supposed to be reviewed on how much it improved over its predecessor, it should be reviewed over what the game is!

But sigh, we all know that reviews, specially this generation, are useless, and that the only true critic is oneself.

It's a shame that, even though I can't prove it, they probably already decide on the scores even before playing or finishing the game. They just want to create controversy by scoring one game better than other etc (that goes for most reviewers, not just gamestop, and does not include all)

-Alpha4559d ago (Edited 4559d ago )

@Ezio

I'm surprised with how many 10/10s the game got that IGN is being held as the pinnacle Uncharted 3 review. I thought IGN's review was rushed junk. It barely discussed anything new and I walked out with just about the same as I walked in with.

@colonel

UC3 was judged by its own standard and for the game it was. The review criticized UC3's own flaws, it barely compared it to UC2 anyway. It just brought up UC2 to tell you that if you expect the game to be as significant as a jump (and logically therefore superior) as UC2 was, then you may be disappointed.

And I don't know how you "know" UC3 is better, sounds like your the one who decided the score before you played it, not the reviewers. You can't just accuse them of creating controversy just because you disagree with the score :/

One game has to score better or equal to the other, but that game shouldn't necessarily be the sequel just because it's the sequel

DarkTower8054559d ago (Edited 4559d ago )

@ colonel, this is taken from the Gamespot website on how they review games:

"We Take Time and Originality Into Account

We judge more critically as time goes by, because our expectations as game players are constantly increasing. When we review a game, we consider it at the exact point in time at which the evaluation is taking place (generally, the week of a game's release) and compare it to what we believe to be the current standards of quality at that time. In general, GameSpot does not favor highly derivative games, which mostly recycle elements from other, previous games. Instead, we appreciate original concepts and ideas that are executed well. This also means that each time an excellent game is released, it becomes incrementally more difficult for another game to be as good in the grand scheme of things."

The last sentence in particular highlights my previous comment.

http://www.gamespot.com/mis...

Arnon4559d ago

There's even more flaws to your logic. If you reach a state of perfection, there ISN'T only so much more you can do. :P

Either way, Uncharted 3 is a masterpiece.

Skip_Bayless4559d ago

With 20 reviews Uncharted 3 still .06% ahead of the 360's version of Batman. Come on U3.. you can win GOTY still!

Ezio20484559d ago (Edited 4559d ago )

@John Madden

Right now, UC3 is tracking a Metacritic score of 94 at 40 reviews whereas BAC is 94.6% at 56 reviews on XBOX...

only 0.6% more...i am sure as more reviews come by, UC3 will overtake BAC.

you guys can check if you want to.
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

BrianC62344559d ago

Anyone who would lower the score of Uncharted 3 just because it wasn't as big a leap as 2 was from 1 shouldn't review games. Uncharted 3 should have at least got a 9.5 from Gamespot. Naughty Dog did a lot of huge things in the game like the desert sand and water physics. The graphics are a lot better but not as much as 2 was over 1. The first game though Naughty Dog didn't know much about the PS3 yet. They used a lot of what they learned to make the second game look a lot better.

BrianC62344559d ago

"The game is not supposed to be reviewed on how much it improved over its predecessor, it should be reviewed over what the game is!"

I agree. How about letting someone who never played an Uncharted game play and review Uncharted 3? Some reviewers just don't get it. Adam Sessler at G4 was just as bad. He gave it a 4 out of 5. G4 gives out so many 5's and yet because Uncharted didn't impress Adam Sessler as much as Uncharted 2 did it only gets a 4? I really don't care what the scores are but I get tired of this same old nonsense. If Adam wants to compare Uncharted 3 to Uncharted 2 then he should compare every game to it since he must think Uncharted 2 is the best game. At the time it came out it definitely was but Naughty Dog did a lot in this game and some reviewers want to ignore that because it doesn't match up to what they think it should have. I guess if Naughty dog can make the second game so much better than the first game the third game should be as big a jump.

CryofSilence4559d ago (Edited 4559d ago )

If any "reviewers" give this game under an 80 (i.e. into the C range), they don't deserve to game. It's clear by all of the usual critics' acclaim that this game is something special. Honestly, with that in consideration, I can't see how any reviewer can place this into the 80s.

rumplstilts4559d ago

You know you're communities F****d when people on it feel the need defend 9/10 as a good score. It's a god damn incredible score!

Objective4559d ago

Many Uncharted crybabies.

Uncharted is probably the best single player adventure type game (actually I have to give Batman a go first before deciding that). Uncharted tells a wonderful story, has unparalleled presentation and production value and some of the best characterizations, so if drama and literature are your cuppa tea, Uncharted is probably perfect.

BUT there are those who look beyond the sheen and analyze gameplay elements too. So even as a single player, there are valid criticisms to be made about interactivity and the unchallenging platforming aspects of the game. Also, Uncharted has always been short-lived with a weak multiplayer. So if you look out for those elements, Uncharted is far from perfect.

Gears of War has a very average campaign, but the multiplayer element is so polished and engaging, some people are overwhelmed by it and they think it is a perfect game too. But of course those who don't prefer to go online will differ in opinion.

Review scores will vary accordingly for the reasons above. The task as rational people is to sieve out good reviews that make constructive points as opposed to unexceptional reviews that offer little insight. IGN's review was somewhat lacking in depth for example while Eurogamer's review was substantive in arguing it's points. As a rational reader, you aggregate the review scores and conclude that Uncharted is probably an impressive game, then you look at the substance of the reviews to determine for yourself if the game is one that suits your preferences. You don't go around creating conspiracy theories, demanding perfect scores and/ or insulting well argued reviews. That's just being childish and hateful.

3 great exclusive games have been reviewed recently. Judging by the comments that have been engendered by these reviews, I have to say there are significantly more PS3 crybabies. The proof is in the pudding, if you want the truth, just go read through the comments sections of reviews for Uncharted 3, Gears of War 3 and Forza 4.

Rageanitus4559d ago

IMO no game is perfect that is why whenever I see a 10/10 rating I usually just read what the acutal gamers have to say, and its best to build your opinion based on others constructive critism.

I think a 9/10 is a very fair score... only 1 more week to go.

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miyamoto4559d ago (Edited 4559d ago )

I will review the game myself dlcs included and share my FACTINION XD Anyway, at this point in time UC3 is already universally acclaimed and there is nothing haters can do about it.... score points & decimals are deciminated to irrelevance

Saruman4559d ago

By the wolves of Isengard, this is a good game!

Yomiro4559d ago

This what I don't understand why reviewing criteias like this applies only to few games?

SephirothX214559d ago (Edited 4559d ago )

Maybe it stuck too much to the same formula instead of trying enough new things. For example, Gamespot gave Forza 3 a 9.5 and Forza 4 an 8.5 due to similar logic. I haven't played it so don't know but after looking at the Gamespot video review, the only problems they had with it were stiff platforming (closed platforming or only one way forward in platforming sections) and in some very few non-impacting cases, flawed ai (ai hearing you perform a stealth kill at times when they shouldn't and sometimes they don't react appropriately when the player is attempting to kill them). Though the reviewer said the combat situations were very tactical and enjoyable and could be approached in many different ways. He also praised the multiplayer, especially the co-op. Now there is nothing UC3 does wrong that UC2 did right but it improves on UC2 overall. The reviewer also described the game as being "as magical" as UC2 and gave the game huge praise overall. Therefore, I think a 9.5 would have been a proper score to allocate based on his opinion of the game but it doesn't matter, the average is 9.5 anyway. Thus it seems to be an excellent game and an obvious day 1 must buy. There's nothing else to do but play it.

showtimefolks4559d ago

just because 9/10 is still a great great score. Only this gen many feel like if a game gets under a 9 its bad i mean come on man open your eyes and mind to games that are on the edge of greatness

UC3 should be getting above 9s if someone gves it a 8.5 its ok its not bad but if a site wants hits and give it 7/10 than you can not and should not take that seriously

If you played UC1-2 than you don't need a review plus UC3 story is better and much more mature atleast that's what the reviewers are saying

In my opinion when everything is set and done Uc3 will be the overall GOTY

showtimefolks4559d ago

but gamespot is the best gaming site and their reviews are spot on. Since the whole kane and lynch issue they have really changed their reviews nitpick yet give games good score. very informative reviews is what i am saying

This year gamespot became the most visited gaming sites on daily bases passing what is a disgrace to me and many gamers IGN.

also how can i forget them giving GOTY to demon soul when everyone was handing it out to UC2 which also deserved it

don't take any reviews serious, i watch or read the reviews just to get the general feel for how the game will be other than that a score number is just that a digit

miyamoto4558d ago

U know full well that the score did not justify the review of gamespot, do you? The only flaw he mentioned was he AI and a whole point was deducted. of all flaws!that thing can be adjusted in the difficulty.

miyamoto4558d ago

U know full well that the score did not justify the review of gamespot, do you? The only flaw he mentioned was he AI and a whole point was deducted. of all flaws!that thing can be adjusted in the difficulty.

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Serjikal_Strike4559d ago

dont watch video review...
*SPOILERS*

clank5434559d ago

Plus, it's just a poorly spoken review. Just watch gametrailers if you want a video review, guys.

floetry1014559d ago

I actually though Gametrailers review of UC2 was waaaay more in-depth than UC3. In fact, I watch it frequently. I think it's the best review they've ever done.

videoxgamexfanboy4559d ago

Oh god they gave it a nine...here comes the gamespot haters...

videoxgamexfanboy4559d ago

Give what a rest the truth? Dont act like some ppl on this site dont get mad when a ps3 exclusive like u3 gets less than a 10. Im sure ur one of them. I played the mp and i can tell u that it is not a perfect game just based on that. I think a 9 is a good score for this game.

Biggest4559d ago

Seriously. Give it a rest.

Pacman3214559d ago

Great logic there "videogamefanboy", by playing the multiplayer a bit you've come to the conclusion that the entire game is a 9/10.

Kingdom Come4559d ago

Here come's the, "But Gears of War 3 got a 9.5!".

Ninver4559d ago

who cares? if u only have a ps3 then gears reviews are irrelevant.

Kingdom Come4559d ago

Judging by the hate in Forza 4 review articles, Xbox reviews mean a lot to PS3 owners.

Silly gameAr4559d ago (Edited 4559d ago )

From what I saw, Forza reviews were kinda ignored, unless they threw GT comparisons into the mix which half of the Forza articles tried to do. Other then that, it was pretty much whatevs.

@xfanboy.

No, I've been ignoring the U3 review comments for the most part because instead of people giving props on the score, we're more likely to see comments like yours.

Plus I already know I'm getting a great game when I tear it out of the wrapper on nov 1.

Pacman3214559d ago (Edited 4559d ago )

I knew someone would mention gears. Tbh it took quite a while, maybe n4g is actually maturing.

StanLee4559d ago

It did?! Seriously, who keeps track of stuff like that?

Kingdom Come4559d ago (Edited 4559d ago )

Perhaps Gears fanatics such as myself who were waiting for the embargo to drop for their favourite franchise and their favourite reviewers (Gamespots) review to land. I'm a fan of Uncharted also, but I just know people are going to come in and call Gamespot the worst reviewers and yet IGN of whom received nothing but hate prior to yesterday are being bowed down to as gods. Reviewers have different opinions, the N4G's PS3 fanboys don't realise that.

Papertiger4559d ago (Edited 4559d ago )

The fact that you generalize ps3 owners as a whole, does absolutely nothing but show your ignorance. Not to mention you bringing up the score of gears of war 3 which no one had in the first place until you game along. Who does that other than a fanboy?

15 comments in and out of them NOT ONE PERSON had even mentioned gears of war 3 or ANY 360 title of the sort until you brought your ass in here. Way to go! You certainly showed them!

Its like the pot calling the kettle black.

Pintheshadows4559d ago

You sir are getting a bubble for that. He is calling all PS3 owners fanboys but can't seem to realise that he is in fact, a fanboy.

Mykky4559d ago

When reviewers review a game they compare the game to the other games on the same platform. Super mario Galaxy could never have got a ten if they also compared it with ps3 and 360 games.

Chidori4559d ago

Why? Because it isn't HD or is lacking blood and guns? That's absolutely retarded. SMG 1-2 are a masterpiece, regardless of what console it may be on.

Mykky4559d ago

Oh damn!...
Chidori I completely agree with u, but what I meant was: Super mario Galaxy could never have got a ten IN GRAPHICS if they also compared it with ps3 and 360 games.

I can't even edit me last comment ._.

clank5434559d ago

I really enjoyed Gears 3. I don't know if I "9.5" enjoyed it, but it was a very well crafted game. Uncharted 3 is more my style because I like single player games more, but Gears 3 had some really fantastic multiplayer with a strong single player campaign and deserves that score in many people's eyes. Uncharted 3 has and will get plenty of praise and a 9/10 is a great score for a game with such high expectations. People need to get a grip on the fact that different reviewers play these games. It's not just one guy, and each reviewers point scale will be a little different.

Gamer30004559d ago (Edited 4559d ago )

"Here come's the, "But Gears of War 3 got a 9.5!"."
there is always an answer to that
here goes :
uc3 10/10 from IGN >>>> 9/10 gears3
metascore 93% and it will get more >>>>> 91% gears3
uncharted 3 will always win

and Get Ready for tons of game of the year awards for uncharted 3

GS give GOTY to Demon Souls(ps3 exclusive) in 2009
yet that didn't stop uncharted 2 from getting the most awards in history

_Aarix_4559d ago

And only got a damn 9 from ign I mean c'mon gears 2 got a 9.5 and gears 3 was a giant leap and improvement when it came to EVERYTHING. That and te fact that lost odyssey got a 7.5 instead of a 8 or 9 proves ign is nothing but a 2-faced P.O.S.

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Analyzing 'Uncharted: Drake’s Deception' – Wait, What is The Game About?

Uncharted 3: Drake’s Deception has a lot to live up to as Uncharted 2: Among Thieves is an incredible and near-perfect game.

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Profchaos897d ago

It's about retirement...oh wait

UNCHARTED2FANATIC897d ago (Edited 897d ago )

I cant even say what the point was its easily the worst story in the series. The online was a whole lot of fun though but overall doesn't come even close to 2

porkChop897d ago (Edited 897d ago )

It was a step back for sure. Personally, I thought even the MP was way better in U2. Solid game, glad I played it. I just think they didn't push as hard as they did with U2.

UNCHARTED2FANATIC892d ago

Yes both the online and story was better in 2 no doubt

Flewid638897d ago

The "young Drake" portion was pretty top notch, story-wise. But yeah, everything outside of that I felt was inferior.

DanielEndurance897d ago

Villains were all over the place in this… one second they wanted Drake dead, the next they needed him, then they want him dead again, then they coulda killed him, but poisoned his friend instead, then coulda shot him again, but had brunch with him, then needed him alive, then coulda mowed him down, but decided to kill him by fire and let him escape… Uncharted 2 was way better. 😅😅

slowgamer897d ago

=D Sounds crazy. I don't remember any of that. Played it on ps3 and I remember thinking that why was this game so bashed compared to second one. I liked it.

Chocoburger896d ago (Edited 896d ago )

Another thing that annoyed me about UC3 events was the agent Talbot teleporting around Turkey. It just felt off to me, and made no sense.

Also, for about one third of the game, you go on a wild goose chase to rescue Sully, who wasn't even there to be rescued, and you end up back where you started again. There was simply no pay off for all the events you go through, so it fell flat in that regard as if they couldn't figure out how to make the game longer, so they decided to side-track you to do something with no pay off, hoping you wouldn't notice due to all the incredible action set pieces they made.

Overall though, even with its flaws, I still enjoy the game.

TheEnigma313897d ago

This was actually my least favorite in the series. Didn't have that same impact that part 2 set.

Flewid638897d ago

Uncharted 2 is the pinnacle of the series (to me).

Granted, 4 had the best story in my opinion, but 2 was the overall best game.

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Uncharted 3 Anniversary Retrospective: Shackled By Its Precursor's Legacy

A decade after its release, how does Uncharted 3 fare today? Does its story still work? Was its precursor’s legacy a bedrock or quicksand for its own aspirations?

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SullysCigar898d ago

When arguably the weakest game in the series is still awesome and more fun than most games today, you know you're onto a winner!

coolbeans898d ago

I'd extend "arguably" before awesome too. Many technically demanding scenes were jaw-dropping for the time, but it's tough to ignore the sub-par context propelling the action forward.

SullysCigar898d ago

Tough for you, perhaps, and that's fine. I enjoyed it very much. Perhaps a little less than the others in the series, but then the bar is extremely high.

I remember being blown away by the water and sand tech in U3 for the time too. It certainly was a visual treat!

LucasRuinedChildhood898d ago (Edited 898d ago )

It is very good, but when I originally played Uncharted 3 it was the most disappointed I'd ever been in a video-game because Uncharted 2 was just that good. I enjoyed 3 much more when I replayed it in the Nathan Drake Collection though. I could just enjoy it for what it is and accept that it's not Uncharted 2 - it's not a roller coaster, and it doesn't balance and rotate between action, puzzles, platforming and set-pieces in the same way.

Uncharted 3's gameplay is a bit more compartmentalized and focused on one thing at a time. I'm not surprised the scrapped version of Uncharted 4 was going to have no gunplay for the first half. It's also paced much differently - it takes a long time to get to the notable set-pieces. Uncharted 2 is insane from Nepal onwards which is about an hour into the game. haha.

I did like the introduction of chase sequences, and I love first hour (bar fight, young Drake) and from the airplane sequence onwards but I just think the rest of it just sort of meanders along without as much purpose as 2.

When it comes to the script, you can feel the absence of Neil Druckmann and Josh Scherr (writer on every other console Uncharted game). Drake gets hit in the face, and the game goes on a random side plot for an hour to give you some boat set-pieces. He then washes up on a beach close to where Elena is staying to get you back to the real plot. Drake just says "How convenient" to try make you laugh off how sloppy the plot got.

In retrospect, I'm not sure if Naughty Dog were ready to work on 2 different games at once. 3 clearly had production issues that 1 and 2 didn't have, and Hennig's version of 4 didn't work out. They had to crunch so hard to get the rebooted version done on time that Bruce Straley gave up making video-games.

coolbeans897d ago

I'll give you some props for the extra analysis. I remember Druckmann climbing his way to a writer spot in UC2, but wasn't aware of Josh Scherr. I didn't know that was the reason for Straley's departure either. That's pretty damn rough.

GhostofHorizon898d ago

They had to make some weird choices as far as story went because the actor for Cutter had to bail which left a few holes in the story.

Uncharted is one of my favourite series and while the leap from 2 to 3 was not nearly as big as the leap from 1 to 2, I think it was an amazing experience none the less.

coolbeans898d ago

Graham McTavish's departure wasn't easy, but I don't think that would fix many holes tbh. Because the main issue to consider is the precarious mindset Naughty Dog was operating on: an increased emphasis in set pieces that HAD to go in and worrying about the context later.

Petebloodyonion898d ago

I really liked part 3 ( Among Thieves is still the best in my opinion) My only complaint was the interactions with the villains and how they were a missed opportunity, Linda MacMahon (Marlowe) was an interesting antagonist due to the history with Sully and Nate but it fails basically flat especially with her ending. And I couldn't care about Navaro 2.0.

What I did love and made me care was Cutter, in the short time he was in the game you could feel that the guy was a good treasure hunter for example when he pulled his own notebook with the clues he founds so the team can escape a room.
It was a small touch that add a lot to the character.

Good-Smurf898d ago

Marlowe was played by Rosalind Ayres.

MadLad898d ago (Edited 898d ago )

I have mixed feelings on the series. I still own all of them on the PS3, and the collection for PS4, but I didn't truly "love" any of the games until 4.

They're good games, but they always stumble on some element.
The first is good, but the climbing mechanics weren't exactly fine tuned with the first showing. Not to mention the spongey enemies if you played on anything past normal; but you're then faced with a fairly unchallenging game experience.
The second mostly fixed the climbing, but added in a pretty clumsy stealth mechanic.
Three was just two with a new story.

Four got it right though.
I don't remember once getting annoyed by any mechanic had in the game.

I know that everyone has a soft spot for 2, and 3 is sort of the black sheep of the series; but they did, overall, get progressively better. Which doesn't always happen.

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Ranking the Uncharted Games From Worst to Best

KeenGamer: "Which Uncharted game is the best? Uncharted is widely recognized as one of the most groundbreaking and consistently great franchises in gaming. For both long-time fans and newcomers to this action-adventure classic, here’s a ranking of the franchise’s four main games."

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Kyizen996d ago

UC 2, 4, 3 and 1. Great read and article

ABizzel1996d ago

No Golden Abyss -_-, otherwise I agree with the order.

UC2: Best overall
UC4: Best graphics, best gameplay, best locations, best environements
UC3: Best set pieces IMO (the boat and desert fights will always be amazing)
UC1: A rough Draft of what was to come
UCGA: Basically UC1 on Vita

Levii_92996d ago (Edited 996d ago )

Great list and great article nicely writen and explained. Although for me personaly i would put Drakes Fortune above Drake’s Deception and Uncharted 4 is absolutely my favourite of the franchise and number 1 for me.

Inverno996d ago

U2 is the only game playable on crushing without causing a great amount of frustration. Not to mention just how much influence it had that they redid some of U2s set pieces like the caravan twice, and armored truck chase in U4.

DFresh996d ago (Edited 996d ago )

I'd rate it as the following.

1.) Uncharted 2
(Close to perfection of any game I've played in years. Single Player/Multiplayer/Co Op all amazing.)

2.) Uncharted 3
(On par with UC2 multiplayer/co op wise minus the kickbacks [aka killstreaks]. I really liked the Lawrence of Arabia story.)

3.) Uncharted 4
(Single player is amazing. Multiplayer was meh. Co Op had potential. Absolutely hated the health revive system it slowed down the game way too much. Always preferred the fast pace action of UC2/UC3. Made it way more fun that way. Recoil was too ridiculous that most people in lobbies would only do hip firing, using power weapons and using that OP grappling hook to melee people after dropping them. Nobody wanted to revive anyone.)

4.) Uncharted
(It's the first in the series so it's hard to judge. Though I loved the story.)

NecrumOddBoy996d ago

I agree here but it’s also a series you can play from front to back and truly enjoy. Story-wise, they are all great and flow so well. I wish they threw both Golden Abyss and Lost Legacy on this list. Lost Legacy is the best mechanically in my opinion. You can see it’s stepping stone framework for TLOUS2.

Michiel1989996d ago

uncharted 2 is one of the few games that actually surpassed its pre-release hype.

medman996d ago (Edited 996d ago )

I am a single player gamer...I barely ever touch a multiplayer component. The only exceptions over the years have been the Mass Effect 3 multiplayer, TLOU factions, and the Uncharted 2 multiplayer. The Uncharted 2 multiplayer saw me spend more time playing it than all my other multiplayer experiences over the years combined. That game really was a masterpiece all around.

brando008995d ago

I agree completely, those are all stellar MP experiences, coming from another SP gamer who only occasionally gives MP some time.

Gardenia996d ago

Come to think of it, the step between Uncharted 1 and Uncharted 2 is huge. It goes from the weakest in the series to one of the best games ever made.
I think I'm going to play all of them again soon.

Ninver996d ago

Yeah all of a sudden I've got that Uncharted itch.

Michiel1989996d ago

is multiplayer still up for the remastered trilogy? or did it never have UC2 mp?

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