How To Be Good at the Uncharted 3 beta; Sad Truth about the Game

GB : DON’T FRIGGIN' AIM. Yep, you see that L1 button there on your DualShock 3? Don’t press that. That’s not the way to play the game, instead you have to blindfire your enemies into submission.

[evrfighter]

seriously have never seen anything so broken in a game.

and I here I was thinking Activision would be the first ones to make a multiplayer that required the use of less than 2 buttons

[downwardspiral]

yeah, its been like this since uncharted 2. Just blind fire then melee.

[Thatguy-310]

Don't see why ppl whine ..I mean its not like they're restricted to not blindfire..its your choice whether you want to or not..and naughty dog already stated that they wanted to make it fun...so being all strategic isn't what they're aiming for.

[SCW1982]

I disagree true there was blind fire and melee in 2 but not to the extent it is now in three. The sprint button makes it ridiculous as does the no stopping power they said they were going to put in. The beta was perfect but now it's garbage. This makes me so sad.

[Autodidactdystopia]

I just never saw uncharted as a game to worry about the multiplayer anyway. its just the same shit rehashed again thats how all mmultiplayer is these days. Someone needs to rethink it. if it sucks then it sucks the uncharted series is all about the SP campaign. If multiplayer has to suck for them to fund a better uncharted SP then so be it.

I dont know if it does suck it just sounds like it from the comments.

[MidnytRain]

dboyc310

Well, if one way of playing is vastly superior to all others, then you basically are forced to play a certain way.

[JaredH]

Wow I thought the article would be about camping the good guns like the rpg. I did pretty good in the beta with aiming though. If this was in Uncharted 2 too I never knew about it but I'll try it once or twice in the full game.

[WrAiTh Sp3cTr3]

Blind firing? Don't you mean, hip firing?

[BattleAxe]

I've stayed out of the beta entirely just so I can enjoy the game when it gets released. It should be just plain fun without the need to care about your K/D ratio since that stat won't be in the game.

[JellyJelly]

Naughty Dog should spend some more time with Epic. Learn the ropes when it comes to MP.

[Tr10wn]

Thats the reason i don't want MP in a SP game they should really give all the focus to the SP and leave the MP out of this game since its broke has ****

[John Kratos]

@BattleAxe

Not to try to ruin anything for you, but in the Subway Multiplayer promotion, the leaderboards still have the K/D stat. You can compare it worldwide or with your friends. I think maybe ND won't have the K/D stat on their website. But as of right now it is in the multiplayer and were only about 4 weeks till release.

[Azmacna]

it's called a BETA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

don't people get it? you're supposed to mention it to Sony so they can correct it. that's why it's called a BETA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it's about time Sony stopped handing these out to the general public to test and just gave them to a select few. and i mean that because i'm really tired of people totally missing the point in a

BETTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[killerhog]

Isn't that halo, cod, gears, as well? Hip-fire and if opposition is close melee? It's a strategy I use at times as well. I only scope if far away which is what I did in uc2 and uc3 beta.

[chainer3000]

I'll still pick you off with the dragoon or m4. pistol/sprint/melee combo is great, but a good player can counter with the same thing and keep your k:d at 1:1.

I personally am more upset with how much more often I tied in melee fights

[Dee_91]

Yes
Everybody just blind fire and get pwnd by me while im aiming down my sights like ive been doing to u noobs since uc2

seriously what is this site called ? www.how to b a noob.org

[Marceles]

The pros know when to hip fire and when to aim, and when to melee, etc. There's a time and place for it all, but with the zoom upgrades and everything...hip fire will only get you so far when everyone is leveled up

[ikkokucrisis]

Holy cow, that video was friggin' hilarious! 5 stars!!

[Thatguy-310]

I see no problem on how the game is right now..I enjoy a ton..just can't wait to try out the new boosters and maps on the final game ^_^ when I first played the multiplayer on the beta I was completely put off by it but as I got used to the new mechanics I got better :) now I'm usually number one ...I say just give it time to grow on you.

[Motorola]

I never played the earlier beta, this is my first time with the game and I think its super fun. Don't see the problem...I REALLY don't, maybe I havent played with these players yet.

[RufustheKing]

well whats great about having a brain is that you can learn to play different. look at the example of the guy talking in the video, you can hear in his voice it took him a long time to learn about UC3 and even at that he will do shit when the games comes out. thank god there are people out there that are stupid without them most of us wouldn't think we were so smart. :)

[MysticStrummer]

You haven't played many games at all then. I doubt you've played UC3. OT - I don't see a problem. It's ok to have two hit melee kills, but not ok to shoot someone, then hit them, and have them die? I rarely blind/hip fire, or melee unless it's a stealth kill, and I do just fine. I hope the next gen consoles solve this whole whining problem. This has been the Whiner Generation.

[hiredhelp]

HA HA HA. Oh here we go again. Another pop at a good title thats a "BETA"
Tip for thoes of you who played this beta it may been worse than the previous. But im sure ND knows about it.
But heres a note use your heads go to naughtydog forums
And moan there that way you may get heard. like many others after all why they call it a beta for you lot to test and give feedback not moan or complain not give feed back threw right chaneels. but give bad publicity on the web hows that making the game better.

[mastiffchild]

No. ND have one issue in my eyes concerning MP(well outside of not having dedicated servers)and that's their mental desire to mess about with things FOREVER. U2 MP was brilliant in beta and got watered down over time but, if anything, they're CERTAIN to change it a lot if anyone moans-trust me, there's EVERY chance it'll be changed a good bit before release.

[hiredhelp]

@mastiffchild
Yeh i always said about UN 2 and now 3 needing deadicated servers matchmaking getting too much now.

[StraightPath]

that was a funny video :D

[meluvulongtime]

Anyone that thinks it works all the time hasn't played in the beta very long. For every spray and pray player in a game there's 5 guys that will gun you down before you get even close. It's usually the noobs that don't know what to do when someone tries to run up on them. All that matters to me is that it's fun and in the past week I've had a lot of fun. So much that i got to level 35.

[cr33ping_death]

its the same BS in COD,i cant count how many times ive died by hip firing kids.

[killerhog]

So you admit you're a cod fanboy and only play cod besides the exception of uc3 beta? Cause the "hip-fire and melee if close" is in every shooter from halo to kz3 and anything in-between. I done it and seen it done in: MAG, R1-R3, kz3 (not killzone 2 although possible but very hard to do), uc2, halo, gears, bf3 beta, cods, etc..

[Horny]

well is it really realistic to aim down the sights when you are 5 feet from someone. I dont think so. This reminds me of the old socom. sights are for distance shots. I dont think people run around, stop, aim down sights, then shoot at a target thats close.

[cr33ping_death]

@killer... yeah im the biggest cod fanboy, god how i love it. i play it day and night only stopping to eat and sh*t. yeah big COD fanboy /s. what i was saying is that its BS that people can kill you while hip firing more than " 5 feet" as our other friend put it. up close it doesnt bother me but being killed at a good distance in that manner is dumb.

and yes im getting Uncharted 3.

[LackTrue4K]

all this time i was aiming when playing 2!!! and i suck at it!!! but on the demo i got good, but cuz i pulled down 5 idiots in (one span) off the cliff never shot any rounds in that match!? lol.... (i pulled down 5 players online in uncharted 3)

[MsclMexican]

Seriously guys

The Mp is good, its just that people exploit things like this and ruin the experience

The reason the summer beta was so good is because no one knew about this

Seriously, did anyone ever see people running and gunning in the summer beta?

No

But this was in the summer beta.

I know, I used it alot in close quarters (this whole thing might be my fault)

Seriously ND never screwed up, the players did(my bad)

Also ND said they are working on nerfing it

So just relax

These guys are one of the best dev's out there

Have faith in them

Also aim

I've gotten more kills playing the game the way its meant to be played than this

Seriously if you can't kill a dude half way across and not aiming running towards you then you do suck, Im sorry its the truth

Also if someones running and gunning drop a grenade

or roll under their melee

or swerve! (YOUR AGILE FOR A REASON!!!!!!!)

These mechanics exist for a reason

Ppl just dont know how to use them

Thats my two cents, Im tired of people complaining about issues that don't exist. Naughty dog made counters

LEARN TO USE THEM!!!!

[kikizoo]

Campers don't like that, you have to move to win :)

by the way, when you shoot someone without L1, you are aiming ! just not zooming, like warhawk or other great 3rd personn shooter, L1 is usefull for some snipers, etc but it's ridiculous to always use it, like ridiculous game where you can't kill with precision without it....

*US ridiculous voice/video, enough said (probably a cod player)

[TVippy]

Oh, so it's GamingBolt... no need to read then. You gotta state GAMING BOLT in the title so I wouldn't even click on it.

[ngecenk]

for some (most) map, its not even gonna work. it works for short distance but mostly you have to see your opponent in front of you, and some maps are just too wide for that

[majdees]

I agree. It is a really sad truth :(
The question is are they gonna leave it the way it is right now??

[Voiceofsoi]

ND have been really attentive when it comes to the MP. They patched the summer BETA issues within a day when enough people complained.

Let's keep our fingers crossed.

[gustave154]

no this is quite broken. once everyone starts doing this, ND will be forced to change it no matter what.

[Dropdeadll]

its just as annoying as commando in MW2

[floetry101]

I played a few hip-fire only games tonight and it's pretty damn potent. They'll need to do some serious tweaking before release day. I'm enjoying it enough to put the hours in, but they need to put a leash on some of the less strategic players.

[crematory]

even they take out fast throwing grenade ,it was best solution against those blindfire players

[OcularVision]

The reason he's getting kills is because not aiming allows him to move around pretty fast while his victim is aiming.

[kikizoo]

In real life, when someone is in front of you, you can't say "stop, i have to put my gun on my shoulder, to aim your head", you just aim/point your gun at him (like analog stick)

by the way, look at the xfnaboy fest here, hoping that future GOTY (can't be done on xbox) has some critics :)
they are forgetting that uncharted is GOTY without multiplayer, they don't even have to add this.

[oNIXo]

I only blind fire a little, but it is very annoying when people do it all the time. The best way around that is a buddy. If you stay close to your group, 3 people shooting at a moron that's blind firing will win 99.99% of the time. The fast grenade thing is kind of shitty, I really don't like that you can't melee in the middle of reloading. That sucks.

[E2M]

totally true

[WhiteLightning]

Wow...so much about me being the only one who thought this /s

You know what the problem is, they've added way too many changes in U3 and they're finding it hard to balance everything out. Intsead of adding one feature, perfecting it and then moving onto a new feature in the next Uncharted game they've bite off more then they can chew.

[WhiteLightning]

Oh look at that disagrees

I forgot you say one negative thing about ND and the world explodes

[Biggest]

Hmmm. . . Is it strange that disagreements equal an exploded world to you? Yes. It is very strange.

[Wintersun616]

There's this thing called opinion, you should look it up. You can disagree or agree with an opinion, that's what the disagree/agree system is for. Don't whine if other people don't share your thoughts...

[qwertyz]

how dare you say something negative about naughty dog on n4g ? are you insane ?

[Voiceofsoi]

Everyone disagrees with you because the summer BETA was awesome and it had all the features of this now (apparently) imbalanced Subway BETA.

Features are not the problem. ND changed the balancing of the game based on the data they collected but ran into unforeseen problems that they will probably fix.

If you want to see a truly broken BETA download the BF3 demo.

[Tachyon_Nova]

Subway demo isnt a Beta though, its the actual retail code.

[E2M]

your right dude why all the disagrees, Im a uc2 mp vet so coming any judgement coming from me would only be for the greater good. The blindfire is just way too prominent as a mechanic in the game.

[smashcrashbash]

'How to play cheaply at UC3 beta'. Fixed. Playing the cheapest way possible doesn't mean your good at the game, it just proves how lame you gaming skills are. However I do agree it will need a little fine tuning just like any other MP that has ever come out.

[HeavenlySnipes]

I've reached level 23 and yes, blindfire + melee is a legit strategy, but the easy way to combat it is to

A) Throw a grenade where you are standing and roll away (They are running towards you blindfiring, so they will approach it and die)

B) Run around a corner and wait for them to come and kill them (while aiming of course)

The only way they could make blindfire useless is to lower the health, but no one wants to play a TP COD (especially since you can already see around corners). You could always just blindfire back anyway.

[Raoh]

Only works against shitty players

This is correct.

Its like people, dumb people, that call snipers campers.Or complain about snipers breaking a game. A good player can force a sniper or camper out of their position or give them reason to make the first mistake.

People just whine about anything. I mean I don't see this statement made with Gears, I can blindfire my way through gears.

Personally I forget to blindfire, not a feature i'm used to. Probably why i'm not that good at cod, I don't just shoot for the sake of shooting, i take longer to aim my shots right, which makes me slower on the draw but more calculated in a mid to long range firefight.

[E2M]

Im level 35 with a kd of 2.8 and even I would consider it a cheap overpowered element to the game, the june beta didn't have such a big issue even though the blindfire was quite prominent the changes they've made to the subway promo have only made it more effective, for example the improved manoeuvrability when running, the kal-7 only seems to be good at blind firing and can reach people at ridiculous ranges, in uc2's mp at the beginning and most new players it was common to see blindfiring but it did not get them any kills, why? the maps were more open, there was more stopping power and dropping a grenade which was much easier made it harder for blindfires and did I forget to mention there was no sprint button

Its really just ridiculous how you can go an entire match without aiming

[admiralvic]

Only works against shitty players
Fallacy.

No matter how brainless a tactic is, the more you do it, then logically the better you get at it. As you said if everyone threw a grenade at them, then they will over time learn to avoid this tactic. Take whatever games grenade drop skill. This will work only if you don't expect it. If you see it more, then logically you will fall for it less. Taking your B... why wouldn't they throw a grenade? You automatically assume that they're completely brainless.

I don't think blind fire is broken, but I don't think it's fun. If ND wanted a gun game, then they should find a way to even it out. There are plenty of things that add a lack of balance.

[rob6021]

"but no one wants to play a TP COD"

Actually it sounds like people do, they just don't realize what they're asking for.

[Xalaris]

It's called hipfire.
Blindfire is just that, NOT SEEING who you shoot.

[Agheil]

alot of his kills are from running behind some 1 and its not like other cant do this....sooo... everybody can do this who ever is more skilled at it is better....its not somthin restricted to a couple of people. I HATE it when an article has people who read and automatically convinced.

[smashcrashbash]

To some level I agree that it probably needs some fine tuning but I am certain that much of the complaining is due to lack of skill by players. It reminds me of people going on and on in KZ3 about proximity mines being unfair and the exo frame being to strong and invisibility was to advantagous. But when I played the game it was no where as bad as people said. I saw proximity mines before they got me, destroyed exo frames.... by myself and caught invisible snipers were they hid.

You should take every complaint you hear with a grain of salt because many times its some crappy skilled gamer who gets his butt kicked and blames the game. It was the same thing with the first UC3 beta were everyone claimed it was broken and the fact of the matter was that you just needed to get used to the new controls. Now people are pretending that they fully supported the first beta now that they don't like the new one. Any way its a moot point seeing that ND already said they are looking into all the problems and fixing them.

[SAE]

i prefer the beta but what people do here is stupid , they are sucks at it so i don't accept their opinions , you have to be good at it and then you judge the game and say it's sucks , you can't say it's sucks because you caan't kill anyone , it's not like it's full of bugs...

[ExitToExisT]

sadly this is exactly true.

me and the enemy see each other at the same time.
i aim and start shooting at him. he runs towards me with blindfire and presses square, and i'm dead.

[rob6021]

Why should AIM = Skill though? You can blindfire too you know.

[Xalaris]

Why do people keep calling it blindfire...?
HIP. HIIIIIIIIIIIIIP.

[TheClown]

Just aim at the head more & they'll go down before they even get a chance to get close. It's not UC2's multi so aiming at the head here actually serves a purpose.

[blizzard_cool]

Oh please, I played this and UC2 and this is not the way to be good.
I only use aim and rarely blind-fire and yet I manage to be 1# in most rounds.

[Muitnorts]

Yep, me too. Not necessarily #1 in most rounds but I'm usually near the top and I NEVER blind-fire.
I tend to aim and use the G-Mal, been working well so far.

[Tarantino_Life]

http://www.naughtydog.com/s... check the comments. I like the changes now and everyone is happy right now based on how it is playing. Gamingbolt can go to hell. Stupid website and a disgrace to India

[Karooo]

Cry moar. You never played UC2 mp it seems.

[Tarantino_Life]

This is UC3 not UC2. Deal with it or get lost. I have prob played more UC2 mp then you ever will. You cant even spell 'more'. It figures. Only a guy who has nothing between his ears will keep submitting gaming bolt articles. What is your next article-'The top 10 best looking trees in gaming history' with 10 pages for hits or is it 'top 10 trash cans in gaming history'? Whatever it is if ever there is top 10 idiotic sites in gaming history yours will be the first. Now STFU

[WhiteLightning]

Even with the new patch it's still un balanced.

"and we have been listening to your concerns"

Yeah if you guys did you would of taken the Summer Beta, tweaked the things that actually needed fixed and come back with an amazing more balanced Subway Beta.

[Voiceofsoi]

I'm sure after the amount of people still displeased with the balancing comes to their attention, they will fix it.

Uncharted 3 Summer BETA, there were complaints about connectivity. ND fixed it within hours. Lag / game dropping complaints fixed after one day. Damage / melee glitches gathered some complaints after 3 days and they released a new patch for that too.

They're on this... I hope.

[LoneWanderer09]

I use blind fire in face to face combat, but if an enemy is at medium range or far away i aim.

[Thatguy-310]

Thats common sense isn't lol don't see why people would try aiming when the enemy is in front of them

[rob6021]

Because it works in CoD. And every game should be like that so if you're good at CoD; you're good at everything.

[BlackSharinganX]

OH plz wtf is up with these articles?. yo its logical medium range to long range aim, if you up close and personal melee or blindfire. Guys are beefing about this when in gears of war you can blind fire with a shotgun and onehit shot the guy. It doesnt happen only on 3rd person shooters happens on fps as well. Its either melee or blind fire, its nothing new. Game runs goods hardly anyone camping either enjoy the game its turning out to be great. Its common sense people.

[SSKILLZ]

Omg so true u I got the sniper and went on freaking crusade ^^ impressive shots whille not aming

[DrWan]

The Way to fix this issue is to have the aiming cuticle swing around wildy while you run as you would expect from real life (sort of like Days of Defeat); when your aiming is all over teh screen while you run, this strategy will not work. as you move faster the cuticle should get bigger

[montyburns000]

meh. uncharted is a singleplayer affair. if i want to hit up good MP i'll play gears3.

[Da_Evil_Monkey]

I've got to agree, to me Uncharted is all about the single player. It's why Uncharted is my favourite series on PS3. I tried Uncharted 2 multiplayer and thought it was terrible, the beta of Uncharted 3 was just as bad. Personally I think it would be way better without any multiplayer at all.

[Tarantino_Life]

Uncharted 2 mp has more players then battlefield bad company 2 pc,360,ps3 combined. It is the second biggest multiplayer community on the ps3 after COD. So no Uncharted is not all about SP alone. Plenty of ppl like me love UC multi

[Nathaniel_Drake]

"I tried Uncharted 2 multiplayer and thought it was terrible"

Most likely because you are bad at it, don't get mad at the game, get better.

[Da_Evil_Monkey]

@Tarantino_Life - I said to me, I'm not doubting it's popularity. Have you got a proof that it's the 2nd most popular online game?

@Ramzadel - I'm not the best player ever, but it definitely wasn't because I was bad at it. I hated it for a few reasons: grenade spam, fixed weapon spawns, poor matchmaking and the massive load times when I hadn't played multiplayer for awhile.

I think that if Naughty Dog really wanted multiplayer they should have only invested time in co-op, which was good, but limited in Uncharted 2.

[Voiceofsoi]

I agree with you in that Gears is the best place to go for TPS MP, but I really don't understand how people can dislike the Uncharted 3 multiplayer (apart from this temporary, but serious balancing problem).

Generally I find both MP games equally fun. Gears is slow and tactical, Uncharted is fast and exciting. Ying and Yang.

But I'm glad you enjoy Uncharted's singleplayer mode.

[smashcrashbash]

Leave Gears 3 out of the conversation. No UC fan cares. @ Da_Evil_Monkey that is idioticly selfish. Just because you don't like it they should remove it? Despite all the crying and whining many of us do like the UC MP. Gamers are some of the most selfish people alive. 'I don't like it so leave it out'. What about everyone else? The game isn't only catering to your needs only you know. ND has to think of the whole UC3 community and not just a single whiny, complaing person. Go play the SP and stay out of the MP conversation.

@ BlackSharinganX Shhhhh!!!!! That's logic. Don't you know these things are only bad when its a Sony exclusive? Many developers release broken, unbalanced, glitchy MP and hardly anyone talks about boycotting the game or how careless they are or that they should remove it completely. Many MP games people find a way to play cheaply or exploit the game. Just watch how every glitch, patch, unbalanced gameplay and cheat in BF3 will be laughed at, overlooked and downplayed.

[elshadi]

well said man

[BlackSharinganX]

LOL greatness

[Da_Evil_Monkey]

Where did I say that I wanted them to take it out? Saying that I think it would be better with out multiplayer isn't the same as 'moaning' that they should remove it. I am aware that many people enjoy it, one of my friends loves Uncharted's multiplayer. I was just expressing my opinion, just as you are, but I managed to do it without insulting people that disagree with me.

[andibandit]

@Smashcrashbach

Agree with the first half of you post, as for the rest....c'mon really???. You think people will waste their time bitching because its a sony exclusive??? it didn't occur to you there might be a small issue with the game?????.

[JimboG]

This online is awesome imo.

[swinesucker]

You guys realize that they actually toned down sprint a ton and ficxed the recoil on Gmal and Ak right? This is nowhere near as bad as it was in the first week lol. We bitched and moaned incessantly for them to change it and it still needs some tweaking as most people do not have the best weapons for BF yet because when you get to 35 you cannot unlock the last mods for M9 and Kal guns which will make them ridiculous. They are definitely going to have to patch the mods for those guns as blindfiring is going to get ridiculous again. And please, you CANNOT BF and win against good aimers. My KDR is 2 but I use all the weapons and yes sometimes blindfire. The Gmal is only good in certain maps with space. AK with accuracy mod rocks.

[Hicken]

I've had to change my playing style, as the G-MAL is no longer as dangerous as it was before. I miss it, but I don't complain. I adapt and keep it moving, like a gamer should.

The multiplayer is STILL enjoyable and has ridiculous replay value, even on the same maps.

[Beastradamus]

I blind fire 4 life. But I call it cracktactical.

[SheenuTheLegend]

i m unable to find players in subway beta
can someone plz help me?

[BushLitter]

Try aiming :)

[andibandit]

just use the RPG(dont aim), to get double kill.

[Voiceofsoi]

They really need to fix this.

Uncharted 2 is my favorite game of all time. I thought MP was great.

I also loved the Uncharted 3 Summer BETA. It's disappointing to hear so many people have problems with blindfire. I can't see the problem myself because I live in Asia.

I hope Naughty Dog fixes this. Usually they're really fast at dealing with common complaints unlike some developers *cough* DICE *cough*

[Faztkiller]

Love it when people do that means I'm gonna get lots of kills. I always aim I usually get around 17kills 9 deaths

[cervantes99]

Exactly, I like to play aggresively and get in the thick of the action. This means I blind fire and melee alot and that is fun for me. It also means skilled aimers kill me alot too. I'm having fun and skilled players get a lot of kills from me.

Win Win in my book.

[Faztkiller]

That what it all about

[FEARprototype]

i loled it this^^

[jack_burt0n]

Lol yeah I get 90% of my kills from pistol and stealth kills the rest from sniping.

Some people have played so much COD they have forgotten how to play anything else.

The platforming and stealth kills/ pull downs ARE THE ONLY REASON to play uncharted MP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

[Yukicore]

Is beta still up? I stopped playing long time ago when one day i entered the game and it just dropped me out.

[perdie]

no the beta is not up there is a code you get at subway for the full multiplayer

[gijsbrecht]

I don't like tps multi player gameplay at all and this is one of the reasons. Just terrible.

[GTRrocker]

Who cares about Multiplayer? I play for the single player. The rest is just a bonus. I would rather have enemy wave challenges like in Vanquish instead of multiplayer anyway.

[pomoluese]

Yeah I really buy the games for the single player, but I really enjoyed UC2's multiplayer and had hoped I would like this one...

[GTRrocker]

I loved the 3 players vs enemy waves in Uncharted 2. The deathmatch stuff was nothing new, but it was nice to have. I preferred the former.

I hate getting killed every ten seconds. It seems kind of pointless after a while. At least with the waves, you feel like you are trying to accomplish something

[pomoluese]

@GTRrocker Agreed. I really loved playing the waves and hopefully they're still good in UC3.

[pomoluese]

So that's why I suck <.< >.>

[strifeblade]

this game just keeps getting less hardcore. First no k/d and now this bullcrap. guess im stickin to gears multi.

[Silly gameAr]

Who cares what mp you stick to, really. Considering Gears isn't on the PS3 and has nothing to do with Uncharted in the first place, I'm not sure why you would bring it up.

[Tainted Gene]

I have been following UC3 very loosely (spoilers and etc) but did I read correctly? Did they actually take away the K/D ratio in online matches?

I certainly hope not.

[PirateThom]

They did, they said it was a useless statistic in a game where team play is the focus because people try to pad this stat, it happened in U2 and just about every other "team" game ever. At the end of the match it still shows kills and deaths.

I actually support the decision, there's nothing more pointless than a K/D Ratio, it means nothing.

[maxmill]

So people are crying because youre not aiming...in CQC

-_- how retarded can people get i mean seriously

[elshadi]

on N4G you will see the retarted people alot more
than logic people in here

they are crying bec they suck in the game go any place else and you will find no one crying

[Kobe Bryant]

Game is still better than gears, so whine all you want!

[strifeblade]

im sure the uc3 single player is quality(probably better than gears), but comparing the multi, and playing the uc3 beta, i can easily say gears has better multi. Dedicated servers means-no lag no host advantages, match finding is lightning fast, are some of the biggest improvements over its predecessor.

Im sure uc will be fun multi but no where near as hardcore as gears. emphasis on teamwork in gears is key when its 5v5 although they need to fix the sawed off.

Anyways all im saying is hardcore uc fans of multi might be dissapointed since it very much feels that the game's multi is catered towards the casuals

[Mr402]

If you try to rely on blindfire all the time you will get smoked by quality players. It's a matter of distance when you engage the enemy. UC multiplayer is the most exciting and fun game I've played this generation next to Battlefield. The things you can pull off in UC multi are unlike any other game out there. It's about fun people and UC multi is fun.

[kamakaz3md]

I been learning for myself after so much bitching that im always getting like 3 kills and 15 deaths... so i finally fig. it out that it is all about the blindfire... and its BS, i want U2 multiplayer gameplay back!

[tack129]

I can aim in this game and get kills in this game. I hate the KAL-7. I wish it was killed with fire! Such a cheap weapon to use.

[Treyb3yond]

Current gen gamers will be forever known as the spoiled cry babies.

[thespaz]

Sweet... I'll have to try this out, but I'm only playing the multiplayer because the single player game isn't out yet... When I get the game, I will probably never touch multiplayer again.

That reminds me... I hate how there are barely any skins available to use so there ends up being like 3 drakes in every match. I wish the players were more generic instead of having people from the single player cloned all over the place... It looks weird.

[PixL]

Gamingbolt again [facepalm]

[MonopolyRSV]

The main problem is, even after the game is released the multiplayer is likely to change. It's hard to buy Uncharted 3 for the full package of the story and the multiplayer combined, when its hard to tell how the multiplayer will be 4 months from now after they've released even more patches.

Why is it that we are only a month away and already the previous beta was supposedly better than this one? I think Naughty Dog needs to do a little more of their own internal multiplayer testing and less relying on beta feedback to tell them how to make their multiplayer.

[BLACKBIBLE]

The issue is the level design. In U2 the level was more open and horizontal, in U3 it's more vertical & closed in. My point is that when people are so close to you there's to time to aim.

[Lionalliance]

So? It was in Uncharted 2 as well and no one complained.

[Rob946]

Uncharted 2 multiplayer was much better and they shouldn't of added all this new stuff just keep it basic/simple no need to put so much effort into the multiplayer mode when really everyone cares more about single-player

[Tainted Gene]

Basic and simple don't sell. This is sadly how production ppl think. If something new and fresh is not added and placed on the back of the game box it won't sell, even though it is a well established and quality product already.

[StupidDude]

No one will ever be completely happy with any multiplayer experience.

[thespaz]

I just tried it and it's still really hard to kill people with hip fire, but it DOES make it harder for the other guy to hit you if you're running circles around him. So you hit him with a couple bullets and then smack him with your gun and he's done.

[Urmomlol]

More proof why Gaming Bolt is the crappiest blog on the Internet

[mixelon]

Video is a bit misleading. You're still aiming with the camera, even if you're not using the aim button. It shoots at the centre of the screen.. Just like in a fps. Balance issues aside, even running and gunning like that takes some skill.

People need to adapt, but I'm interested to see what ND do about it anyway.

[videoxgamexfanboy]

wow...how sad. im sure there are some ppl out there who will spin this. wonder why...

[mjsmufc99]

You all can complain but it's gonna be one of the best games of this gen!

[cyclindk]

Hmmm, in Uncharted 2 the only gun that I recall having a ridiculous advantage like the one displayed in the video was the Pistole or whatever, where, if you were in range, you didn't have to aim one bit... jumping through the air, leaping, running away from an enemy, it didn't matter. Always locked on, instant kill.

[evilunklebud]

Buying for the single player anyway.... Gears is my mp game of choice.

Kind of funny video, however.

[rob6021]

Why does 'aim' = skill to everyone? Why can't mobility, and knowing where your enemies are = skill.. It's just CoD fans getting annoyed because they think their skill should transfer over to every other game, reminds me of KZ2. You know what ND don't change it, let the CoD fans be frustrated.

Can't say I'm not surprised there's an assault by the games media against U3 multiplayer at the same time the Reviewers are reviewing the game.

[earbus]

Uncharted 2 multi was pretty awfull although the co op was nice i enjoyed that aspect, mp just felt like a tack on have been playing the war inc beta on steam really dig the gameplay top little online tps,these days multi comes first for me sometimes i wont even play the single player. If claudia blacks in it i feel for you guys her voice is the same in gears terrible voice actor sounds like she has a secret testicle wanted to kill her in uncharted and gears add ice t to that last statement. Fans will love U3 it regardless.

[RELIGHT]

They just need to even the damage back out like in the original beta and it will be fine.

[TheLastGuardian]

Well no wonder I suck at UC3 MP. I always aim. I can't help it, It's a habit.

[ForROME]

OMG what happened>? in UC2 this could be use but wasnt near as effective, back to HALO I go

[shammgod]

Clown

[Pana]

Good luck blind firing or hip firing an enemy from more than 10 metres away. Whoever wrote the article is not only bad at the game, but the same logic applies to games like Gears where supposedly the sawed off is considered as OP. Well don't stand right next to them like an idiot.

Sure is a lot of unwarranted Uncharted 3 shit slinging as of late, I still remember the last article complaining that there was campers. You can't even camp in Uncharted.

[Enigma_2099]

As long as the single player's good, I could care less if the online multiplayer is broken.

[paybackprahl]

Seriously? What the hell is with all these stories trolling Uncharted 3's multiplayer?

The removal of the Stopping Power effect made hipfire-rushing a legitimate and admittedly broken strategy. They have since added Stopping Power again, and aiming now works better than anything else, even at very close ranges.

Is hipfire-rushing still a legitimate strategy? Sometimes, but it will never be better than a player with good aim and reactions, and is completely useless at anything other than very short range, which should boil down to chaos anyway.

[tack129]

I don't get it either. Complaining for the sake of complaining in my opinion, back to playing Uncharted 3 I guess.

[zero_cool]

You gotta complaint with Uncharted 3 multi player then go take it up with naughty dog or sony because complaining here won't change a dam thing!

http://www.naughtydog.com/c...

Naughty Dog:[phone]

http://us.playstation.com/c...

[Simco876]

Can I tell them to just map it like Uncharted 2??? I doubt they will honor that request....

RIP U2 multiplayer you will be missed....

[Soldierone]

Personally buying this game for the single player. The multiplayer in two was on the edge of frustrating, but still fun....this though has been extremely frustrating to me. Blind firing and the spawns are annoying as hell. Everytime I die it either someone randomly shooting and running at me, or coming up from behind me. Im still winning games but its annoying.

The SP looks brilliant though so I can't wait to buy it for that.

[Snowii]

so should i aim?

[DMLFury]

I have no respect for someone who throws out the word "faggot" every 5 seconds. Grow up, you child.

[galmi]

i just knw very few improvements would be made to the final version, its always like that, loved the video, totally awesome and why do they run like the syphon filter characters? will wait to pick up the final version (well, maybe cuz i believe almost all games are over rated, most especially god of war and uncharted).

[CanadianTurtle]

Believe me, after more than 10 years of playing games made by Naughty Dog, they are ALWAYS listening to their fans' feedback and media feedback. They will fix this

[BabyTownFrolics]

Uncharted mp is as fun as ever, but the controls are as loose as ever, I never feel like the character has any weight. I wish someone could combine the feel of gears with the platforming of uncharted.

[Shojin1]

Cooooommmmmmmaaaaaaannnnnndddd ddddddooooooo!