CNN says it's time for men to 'man up', blames video games for lack of ambition

CNN today posted an article entitled "Why men are in trouble". In typical mainstream media fashion, videogames are the source of all our problems. Click past the jump for some quotes I would like to share with you.

[Hellsvacancy]

Lol, coming from CNN, one of the most corrupt news channels in the WORLD

The day i pay any attention to those mofos will be the day i turn gay, i hav LOADS of "ambition" theres no way im wastin it on this world, ill wait for the next, see what i do then

[Pikajew]

Isn't Fox the most corrupt news channel?

[Rod]

Let's agree that they are both complete crap.

[deadpoole]

Nahhh ... Im pretty sure, FOX takes the award in that category or sweeps in all related catagories.

[ikkokucrisis]

More like give us guys a reason to get married. Seems like everything benefits the other half, and it's so easy to get a divorce. You want us to do stuff? Change the damn laws!

[TopDudeMan]

CNN = Crappy News Network.

Seriously, in my college most of the girls are drama students, hairdressers/beauty therapists or some social science. Sure, they all leave with college degrees, but they're thick as shit. I'm sitting in my class plugging numbers into my calculator, working towards something useful, while they're all out getting degrees for jobs that don't even exist.

I don't know about the US, but in the UK things are very different from what they're describing. The college course I'm in is statistically the hardest course to pass out of all the college courses offered in the UK. There are 17 men in it. Guess how many females? 1. Just 1.

Now, lets move on to "industriousness, marriage and religion" this quote is interesting. The first one is the only relevant one. You need to be clever, you need to be determined to succeed. You don't need to be married. Relationships drag you down. It no longer becomes just about what you want and all your decisions go through someone else. And religion? Seriously? I'm not even gonna bother explaining why that's stupid.

Sorry about the rant.

[TheFirstClassic]

Nah, msnbc is the most corrupt by far. All they do is hate. Where Fox is mostly conservative, msnbc is extremely liberal and biased. While Fox usually doesn't let liberals talk, msnbc pretty much never lets conservatives talk. From what I've seen anyway.

[REDHULKSMASH]

No fox news tells it like it is. They tell any and all news. Pictures of obama with the head of the black panther party are just now started popping up. Did cnn, cspan, msnbc point that out? Now if it was a white candidate, president, politician, etc with the head of the kkk, the liberal stations wouldn't shut up about it yet they hid the president with the black supremist. No politician should associate with any radical hate group and no "news station" should hide or condone hate.

Do what you are supposed to do report all news with an UNBIASED opinion.

Fox news has supporters of both sides like hannity and colmes. juan williams

defended and supported obama, watch the oreilly factor.

As far as my video games go, i support my wife and my 4 kids, paid off my house at 28 years old, taught my self spanish, and can curl 265 lbs 8 times, so i'm gonna play my video games....Get your facts straight.

[modesign]

redhulk must of forget when fox news pulled some hack "psychologists" that trashed Mass effect, because she was a "expert" on the game. fox news is full of shit and unbalanced.

msnbc,cnn, and fox will say "videogames are a waste of time" "go blow your money on the Stock market instead"

[BattleAxe]

The corporate new networks are corrupt in general. However, I do like Freedom Watch and Lou Dobbs on FOX Business, Dylan Ratigan and Lawrence O'donnell on MSNBC, Cenk Uygur and Keith Olbermann on CURRENT. These guys speak truth to power which I love, but the only problem is they all still get stuck in the "Left/ Right Paradigm".

[DaTruth]

That's just like America, they call it free, but the second you do anything besides slave away for their tax revenue, there's something wrong with you! You pay out your a$$ for school, to get a job that's so demanding you never see your home and die from stress related disease!!

Some of us don't want to work our lives away!

@Redhulk: Black Supremists? It was an equality movement!

[NukaCola]

CNN is way more screwed up thatn Fox, but Fox takes more heat cause they produce the dumb articles more often. Either which way, the media is so out there left or right, on their gameing opinions it's almost laughable if not nauseuatying to see and read. They can blam games for the actions of the children, but who will they blame for their own poor choices? Ham Radio?

[darksied]

No real gamer would ever question that, yes, FOX is the worst news outlet.

[Krimmson]

That's not how you spell NBC news.

[Anarki]

CNN: CRYING NEWS NETWORK :'(

[Army_of_Darkness]

yo! I'ma bust a cap in these cnn bitches when I see them online in COD! :P

[AEtherbane]

C-SPAN. Get. On. My. Level.

[Boody-Bandit]

This is a load of crap. When is all of these media outlets, politicians, misguided finger pointing parents and non gaming zealots going to stop passing blame on others poor choices in life?

Why not blame our education system, lack of scholarships, music education, and most of all lack of funding for physical education and sports in most schools as the blame.

I don't know about other states, counties, cites and townships, but in my state there is next to no funding for anything that has to do with what is listed above. Not only did I have to pay out of pocket for my son to play sports but my wife and I had to provide transportation for him to get home from all after school activities.

When he was having trouble in trig the teacher would not even allow him to stay after school to get some help. We had to hire a tutor on our own and have her meet him at my house on the weekends.

Back when I went to school they provided for all things listed above. Oh and BTW my son grew up with a gaming controller as a teething ring. He is now 18, going to college, still plays sport, takes jiujitsu and plays video games when his schedule allows.

These idiots need to stop pointing the finger at one entity and put it where it belongs, them.

[SaiyanFury]

Interesting assessment. Oh wait, I'm 32, married and my wife and I just had our first daughter. Oh yeah, I play games 4 hours a day. I guess I'm contrary to CNN's analysis.

[gamingdroid]

So what time do you have for your family?

An 8-hour job + 4-hour gaming + hours for other duties/meals/commuting....

Most people only have 16-hours out of the day for everything (except weekends). I'm not saying you are lying, but would like to know how you manage that.

I can't do that, and I don't even have a kid yet.

[Anon1974]

Yeah, I also wonder how that works. I'm 37, I have 8 hours a day working and then the rest of my time is spent on household chores, errands and spending time with my wife and son.

Gaming, tv, movies. These are are luxuries. When my 1 1/2 year old son finally goes to sleep, I have only a couple of hours to unwind from the day and spend with my wife before I do it all over again. If I'm lucky and not too exhausted, I might find an hour or so in the evening to read a good book or fire up a game. On the weekends, it's all about family and friends with, again, maybe an hour or too at night - if I'm lucky.

I used to spend 4 hours a day gaming, back in my 20's when I wasn't working full time and didn't have any responsibilities other than paying my own bills. Then I got a real job.

If you're working and spending 4 hours a day, everyday gaming, you're either not working a full time job, you don't sleep or you're neglecting your family. If you're single, I can see 4 hours a day, but even then you should probably get out and socialize a bit more unless you want to run the risk of become a friendless hermit (and people you never met on your friend's list don't count).

CNN has a point.
Enough with the knee jerk reactions. Cnn might as well said TV or Movies instead of videogames. The point was at some point we need to take responsibility for our lives and not be slackers. That doesn't mean you can't game anymore.

[EminemAt3AM]

FOX news and CNN are both total shit, but, a poll was done about what is the most bias news station in America, and CBS ranked #1, FOX and CNN followed. So why are we hating on FOX if there is an even MORE bias news station on TV? It's because of our political bias.

[kaveti6616]

@topdudeman

What's you major? Some kind of engineering?

If so, you're gonna feel really crappy when you start looking for a job.

I was making fun of my sister for 4 years non-stop because she was an art history major at UCLA. Art history has always been considered by many as a very useless point of study, but it's also a lot harder than people realize. My sister was writing 60 page research papers every month. She was creating 30 minute long presentations on slabs of ancient stone that depicted crude artwork. And yes, that all seems very pointless, but guess what? In the real world, employers know that regardless of what major you take, you're going to be pushed to your limits. In college, you're going to have to do work and you're going to have to learn how to do tons of work in a short space of time.

And so, after my sister got her degree, it took her less than one month to find an excellent job at a law firm.

Here's a statistic that I'm not making up. 70 percent of college graduates will end up getting a job in a field that isn't related to their major.

Therefore, those girls that you're taking jabs at aren't working hard to get a job that doesn't exist. They're working hard to prove to the world that they can work hard. That's all a college degree really is: a certificate that says, "Yeah, this person worked really hard for no money and will now work harder for you for money."

Now, if you really want to show a specific employer that you deserve a job in your field, you have to get a master's degree.

Unfortunately, you'll find that when you graduate from college with a degree in computer science or computer engineering or even electrical engineering, you're going to be competing against a bunch of people with higher degrees.

And that's pretty much why, if you're still an undergraduate, don't ever brag about what major you're taking because a bachelor's degree only says that you're a hard worker.

[finbars75]

Fox is corrupt but hey we get to watch the UFC payperview with junior do sontos and Cain valesquez for free other then that blahhhh on both of them.I'm married have a career job with two awesome kids a house a car ect but I have no ambition in life since I play video games good luck on trying to play that crap off of other gamers just sad and ridiculous cnn.

[clrlite]

Perhaps, but CNN might be worse because their deception is less obvious. Nice thread by the way. It's nice to see people are beginning to use their noggins.

[Lich120]

Why do I have to get married? That has nothing to do with success and contributing to society. What, are we running out of kids?

[Ser]

People only view Fox as corrupt because it's pro-republican most of the time, while CNN on the other hand is pro-democrat most of the time. Most of the people that hate on Fox are democrats. Fact.

[da_2pacalypse]

What a bunch of garbage. This is the state of mind of news channels: blame terrorists, video games, and nuclear power FOR EVERYTHING! Oh, and overexpose celebrities which are a bad influence to our youth.... Suck it CNN, you have no idea what you're talking about

[Eric Barrier]

It is time for men to man up, including those over at CNN. Take the blame for your own lack of ambition don't point your finger at anyone or anything else. Especially not video games.

[saladthieves]

Must I say this again? CNN, please stop saying crap and keep taking your medz!

[PCRockStar]

When has CNN ever been taken seriously? They skew the news and don't know sheet about technology/games/gamers!

[Flavor]

My cousin in the states was the only girl in most of her engineering classes, classes dominated by foreign men. Her brother got a Phd in infectious diseases in labs dominated by foreign men.

Blame this stupid pampered country for raising a generation of useless tw9ts whose only goal in life is to be on American idol or get rich doing nothing in the stock market, while the rest of the world commits their best and brightest to the hard sciences.

[JBaby343]

Well said. Very well said. I read a study in the spring where they polled high school students and the most common answer for a career was "celebrity". That's just wrong on multiple levels but that's what this country is producing sadly enough. I don't blame video games for all the declines we are seeing because video games and people's time spent on them reflects this rather than causes it. It doesn't take much looking around to see how lost the young people are now. Even colleges now are becoming the new high schools with watered down classes and majors as long as you have the money.

I'm not against games at all because I play them myself but people's lives are just too devoted to things that don't matter than to what's really important. Entertainment has its place but we are too obsessed in this country.

[saladthieves]

I wonder what CNN and the rest of the media would think about this: http://www.joystiq.com/2011...

[caperjim]

Sounds like an immature needy woman wrote this article who has a boyfriend/husband that dont give her the attention she thinks she deserves.

Also what the hell does wanting to get married have to do with being a man?? lol Times are changing and roles are blurred. This person is having a hard time dealing with it.

[kreate]

so is this msg only for american males? guys in america needs to man up huh?

so i guess koreans are manned up already even though they're playing starcraft until they starve themselves to death.

and japanese males are manned up cuz they play video games like a religion.

what kind of a epic failing femnisnitic bull is this?

so guys are no longer needed cuz they play too much video games?

in america, there are nothing in it for guys to get married. the females wants to get married so they can control u. and when u get divorce, females take everything u got. only thing u get is ur car and ur clothes.

and u are left with 18 years of child support. more kids u hav, more money ur paying the girl so she can take ur money and go party with her new bf she's been hiding away.

she also takes half of ur retirement money too.

this is why guys dont get married cuz the law favors the female.
not cuz guys play too much video games cnn is being retarded.

alternative way of doing this is go through a asian agency and go pick up a girl from southeast asia or russia. american girls regardless of race, wants to control u, or take ur money behind the idea of 'love'

my statement is in general.

[mdarwin1]

i agree with you 100 percent. Love is a joke in this country. its either hey how big is it, or hey how much money do you have honey. i say forget love,

[JBaby343]

I'm sorry you guys have had such bad experiences. I love my wife and I know she loves me and I don't regret getting married at all. I love our lives together and I am much better off than when I was single and my daughter makes things even better. You two seriously need to start screening your women better if that's all you have to say

[kreate]

@jbaby

in general dude. in general.

also the point was when u get divorce. the law favors the female.
if there is no divorce involved. than there's nothing to worry about.

guys hav too much to lose in a marriage/divorce situation while females gain a lot of stuff. so of course guys dont want to get married and girls do.

[killcycle]

14 People that disagreed with you could possibly all be gay, just sayin xD

[Keith Olbermann]

People that watch Fox are talking about The Black Panthers??? Seriously?? We are in economic meltdown and they want to fuss about a group consisting of two or three crazy old dudes....LOL. unbiased my butt...

[Pikajew]

I disagreed with him because I am not homophobic. If he left that part out I would have agreed

[seinfan]

@pikajew
Quit being a sensitive, politically correct, whiny girl. But wait, you obviously have no problem picking on Jews according to your name. That's another thing with PC people: you all are hypocrites. Advocates for tolerance and free speech, but you're all intolerant of speech that doesn't agree with your views.

[seinfan]

Practically all the engineering majors at my top ten ranked engineering school play video games. We obviously have no ambition to be going through mental torture on a daily basis. lol

[CarlosX360]

Shut up, CNN.

Speak for yourself!

[harrisk954]

Not just coming from CNN, but from William Bennett, a phony, self-righteous, right-wing conservative.

Mr. William "My Morals Are Better than Yours" Bennett is a well-known high-stakes gambler and has lost millions of dollars in Las Vegas, even though he purports to be a conservative Catholic! He even wrote a book called The Book of Virtues in which he argued against gambling and for what he called "self-discipline". What a hypocrite! Some role model for men, huh Mr. Bennett?

Makes me sick.

[Maddens Raiders]

One of the most corrupt and illegitimate organizations on the planet. CNN is an innocent angel compared to that evil acid-like monstrosity called FOX Noise.

[JBaby343]

^^ Open your eyes homie. You should reverse that statement.

[CoLD FiRE]

All the hot chicks in CNN can suck my pee-pee.

[Rod]

Nothing worse than an old person trying to tell people how to live their lives. I love how he says man up and get married. Yeah, very manly.

[Fadetoblack69]

The worst thing any guy can do to himself in the present age is get married!

[Prophet-Gamer]

Couldn't agree more.

[caperjim]

I agree 100% but judging by your disagrees there are still a few suckers out there. :)

[dredgewalker]

Lol, I ALMOST got married because I got my gf pregnant. Then she cheated on me before I could make the wedding arrangements. I now live with my daughter and raising her happily as a single gamer dad. Oh yeah, most women today are cheating w@#$&s! Imagine the head-ache I could have had since we don't have divorce in my country!

[JBaby343]

@ dredge: Where are you at?

To All Above: I feel bad for you guys that are blind to what marriage is really about. I wouldn't trade my wife for anything.

[Fadetoblack69]

@ JBaby343

Be my guest, 'enlighten' us to what 'marriage is really about'.

Does signing that piece of paper suddenly magically mean you 'love' her more? Does putting a ring on your finger suddenly mean your relationship is going to last forever? Does it change Anything about the two of you? No, it doesn't.

If you want to pretend there's some special meaning behind it through symbolism or some other voodoo belief thats fine but in reality, the ONLY thing you change by signing that piece of paper is agreeing to support her financially when it falls apart....; even though women are supposed to be 'equal' which I point out they aren't which is why they 'need' to be supported by men.

Bottom line, especially in this present age, is that for 90% of people, their marriages WILL fail eventually and since that 'piece of paper' and ring-collar don't actually change a thing about the two of you, why put your finances and assets at risk?

[Prototype]

I'd say the smart men (like me) find ways NOT to get married...

[ChrisW]

Status or being older has nothing to do with it!

I'm 34, married 6 years, have a newborn son, a MEd in Second Language Acquisition, and teach university EFL courses... And I play a shit load of video games!

And I don't think that I'm a rarity. I'm certain a very large percentage of those 18 - 34 males are excellent contributors to society. The only reason why women are taking the place of men is because they're continually finding their niche in a male dominant society.

[zeal0us]

Here we going again, another news outlet using videogames as a scapegoat for problems in the male population.

"The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of William J. Bennett." Funny how most news outlets and websites throws this at the end in small print rather than at the beginning in bold. Regardless we will still blame ya cnn b/c you allowed it to be publish.

[kma2k]

I find it funny that if anyone would say publicly that a woman should "woman up" they would be considered sexist & a jerk & it would be agreed with almost unamiously!

[theonlylolking]

Yeah, women need to woman up and get back to the kitchen, get married and have kids! /s

@Fez
You think men and women are equal then you need a reality check.

If you want equality then lets make every sport that is separating men and women combine them. Instead of having a women's 100m dash or a men's 100m dash why not just have men's and women's 100m dash or men's and women's tennis, etc...?

@peeps that do not know that we cannot run out of oil

http://www.sciencedaily.com...

http://www.viewzone.com/abi...

http://creation.com/oil-not...

http://www.forbes.com/2008/...

[Pozzle]

IDK they would probably find some other way to insult women for not being womanly or feminine enough, or whatever. One week they'll be insulting housewives for not being "proper modern women", then the next week they'll be inulting career-driven women for being "selfish" and not fulfilling their "proper role" as a woman by having a husband and heaps of babies. Then they'll go back to insulting men for something ridiculous like "men who fish are barbaric cavemen" or "men who watch tv are lazy slobs".

Because god forbid a person just be allowed to live their life however they want to. I don't think CNN are happy until they insult every group of people in existence. >_>

[Moerdigan]

not going to lie, I think people against gaming have a lot more to run with here than saying video games make people violent, like they have been doing in the last 15 years.

[Orionsangel]

Yeah women don't play video games. They go to college and graduate and find jobs. Because only men play video games. Waah! lol! Because no one spends time on Facebook and Twitter. Come on CNN. Let's face IT. Society is going underground. We're all gonna work from home and go out less. That's where we're headed. Whether you agree with it or not it's evolution.

[TitanUp]

i have no freaking ambition cause of no jobs heck the county i live is the most unemployed county in TN

[Flavor]

Yeah the article doesn't mention the destruction of the male-friendly manufacturing base through offshoring, or the filling of entry level jobs by illegal labor.

[DaTruth]

Lucky you, I manned up and suffered severe injuries at work; now I can't work even if there are jobs!

Ambition is f'ed up! You work your @$$ of for these people, but the first time you have to say no to anything, all your hard work is forgotten in one second! Then the @$$ kisser who buys the boss coffee everyday gets the promotion!

[ForROME]

I think the world forgets this is the US, in the rest of the world MEN are very much in control.

This man thinks he talks for all of man kind, america is just one place, not to mention I have done studies that say his facts are in correct Men are on the incline in certain areas, esp in Science and Tech men are hired at a rate of 8 to 1 and preferred over women

Women have had a huge increase in the recession they are hired for the same jobs men were at half 3/4s the wages in the last 10 yrs

My list goes on and on, point is,

A: Video games need to stop being blamed
B: Men rule the world no matter what happens for a period of time

If you read the bible, it says so
If dont believe in God or the Bible, Science says Men do as well

As the world turns fellas, life is good, enjoy it

[Fez]

Men do rule the world, but they shouldn't. It should be equal.

I can tell you disagree and I bet you don't know why.

[ForROME]

Science dictates nothing is equal despite people like you, cute thought though, E for effort.

[DwightOwen]

Men and women are equal, until she needs you to move the couch.

[Fez]

Obviously nothing is equal, that's why we should be doing all we can to make it so.

Or you think we should just let whatever will be will be and not fight injustice?

[e-p-ayeaH]

I would love to "man up" if this effin financial recession wouldnt be so bad i cant find a job.

[Dart89]

Same here man all i do right now is work in fields sure it's hard work but gotta pay those bills somehow right?
And i live in the most Argicultural state in the u.s. Cali.

And what's the point in getting married theres no need for that me and my gf have been together since we were in 7 grade and now were both in our early twenties and we don't plan on doing getting married.

In other words CNN STFU!!!

[DwightOwen]

Hope and Change.

Should be "hope FOR change..."

[cyclonus007]

The thing about Hope and Change is that one only requires daydreaming and the other requires actually getting off your ass and doing something.

Guess which one Americans are more likely to do.

BTW I'm American so there is no unfounded prejudice or hate toward the US.

[Knightofelemia]

This article is lame what does CNN know about gaming they don't hold a lot of articles about gaming unless a new console comes out or how well a game sells. They should stick to reporting to the war in the middle east or other stories that are lame.

[Unicron]

I work 40 - 90 hour weeks. I pay my bills. I hit the gym. I find time to socialize, and continue working on my art in both 2d and Maya. And I'm an avid gamer.

Yup. I'M in trouble. Thanks news!

[sovietsoldier]

would love to start a family and get married but like many i don't have the money, oh it must because im lacking as a man and not the cash in my wallet, right?

[Bathyj]

So the media and the world in general has spent the last 3 decades or so pussifying the male gender, and now thinks it should Man Up because we've become disenfranchised with society.

Are these the same people who wont let us have Fight Clubs?

[ShaunCameron]

Well, that's the result of allowing feminists and liberals to run a country.

[Jack-DangerousIy]

Whoa, whoa, whoa!

What's the first rule of Fight Club?....

;)

I agree with your point.

[Garrison]

Dude's....
DON'T EVER GET MARRIED.
Not if you have a goal in life.
GOT THAT?
NEVER.

[Rod]

I like your thinking. I better toss this PC out while I'm at it.

Bye guys.

[BrianC6234]

American men need to throw games away and start watching CNN 24 hours a day. That will fix everything.

[ChipChipperson]

Yeah it's all video games making men pussies. Never mind political correctness, language policing, an economy that isn't in good shape at the moment, etc. Let's not acknowledge those issues like CNN loves to do and blame a medium of entertainment like ALL other things have been blamed for in the past.
CNN- “Today, 18-to- 34-year-old men spend more time playing video games a day than 12-to- 17-year-old boys. While women are graduating college and finding good jobs, too many men are not going to work, not getting married and not raising families. Women are beginning to take the place of men in many ways."
I'm very curious where they got this information because wasn't there an article on here that said female gamers make up 40% of the community now?

[Hicken]

I wonder what else was said? To a certain degree, CNN isn't wrong. But the things they pointed out aren't the problems, either, but a symptom.

I'd rather be working than playing video games. But there aren't many jobs to be found, and the one I DO have doesn't exactly pay much or provide a lot of hours.

I'd love to be married and have a family, or at least be working on one. But the women that are or could potentially be my "type" are either taken, or looking for something in a man they shouldn't be looking for.

The primary problem is a generation of men who don't know what that word actually means. Compounding it are women who lack that definition as well, and a previous generation who seems concerned more with assigning blame than rectifying the issue.

A man can be a responsible, acceptable, family man and still enjoy his gaming on a regular basis. As it stands, though, it's too profitable for men to follow trends set forth by the media. And when women subscribe to the same loose definition as the media, men are left with very few options.

[jakethesnake]

I'm happy to see at least one thoughtful intelligent comment in here :) There definitely is a big problem with a lot of young men out there, but even if video games were to disappear tomorrow, that wouldn't solve the problem (possibly wouldn't even help a single bit). The problem is so much deeper - people unwilling to work and having a sense of entitlement. I just think that a lot of people aren't growing up.

[Hicken]

Another problem is that, after a while, people give up. It's really hard, psychologically, to keep trying something after you've failed time after time, especially if it's something important to you. I can keep trying on Dark Souls because it's just a game, but when I'd been fired and was out trying to find a new job, it only got harder to keep putting in apps and going to interviews only to not get callbacks or be told someone else got the job. When those poor- often, but not always, Black- young men keep trying to make something of themselves, and instead are viewed as criminals, it's hard to not just give in. There are people still hunting for jobs after two, three years of unemployment, and I can't help but admire them, because I'd have given up already.

On some levels, I don't want to grow up. And a lot of that has to do with the "previous generation" I mentioned before. So many of them have no joy in life. They've traded away their passions for job security, for the mundane, and I can't do that. Even if I could, I'd refuse to. If giving up on your dreams is a part of growing up, call me Peter Pan.

[mamotte]

Smart guy here. If I could give you a job, i'd do it in a NY minute.

[Graey]

@ Hicken

both of your posts are very well said. That being said count me in Peter...I want to be one of the "Lost Boys"

[DwightOwen]

I blame skinny jeans.

[darx]

lol! Can't agree more!

[Jocosta]

I am currently working on a degree after losing my job, and find I game very little compared to when I wasnt attending school. I do know a few losers who care about nothing else but gaming, however.

[badkolo]

both cnn and fox can kiss my but, the 2 worst corrupt channels on earth, who promot and shill for whoever is ordering them to do so, biased and false information daily.

telling men to man up, thats ballsy.

these are the same idiots that are shilling info about ending the constitution, how getting groped by tsa is for our own good and the recent one of how poor people have it to good, that one blew me away.

[ignorantsonsof_]

CNN can suck my controller.

[LoneWanderer09]

LMFAO

[ignorantsonsof_]

I wonder who would disagree with that. I thought it was pretty clever.

[turgore]

If you don't know mainstream media is a complete sham you have serious mental issues.

[SeraphimBlade]

I'd like to note it's an opinion piece written by one man and does NOT represent CNN as a whole. And a very old man at that. (look at his pic in the original article) I coooouuuuld make a joke involving "manning up" and the fact that he probably needs to use viagra. But that would be immature, wouldn't it?

(also if you think that kind of immature humor from me is because of the gaming, wrong again. It's because I've been studying Shakespeare. AT COLLEGE. Get thee to a nunnery, bitch)

[rob6021]

The fact it's an opinion piece is a good point, but I really want to know why a NEWS NETWORK is putting out opinion pieces as top stories. The sad state of our media is that it's more about entertainment, most people wouldn't be the wiser that this is some guys opinion. Using hard-line cruel/fearful statements grabs peoples attention.

[tiffac008]

From the article:

“Today, 18-to- 34-year-old men spend more time playing video games a day than 12-to- 17-year-old boys. While women are graduating college and finding good jobs, too many men are not going to work, not getting married and not raising families. Women are beginning to take the place of men in many ways. This has led some to ask: do we even need men?"

I work, my ambition was to enter the gaming industry in some form or way and I was able to do that and just like any other job I hope to be promoted and recognize for my achievements within the company, I guess that's a low form of ambition for this guy.

I'm not married because of the harsh economic realities most of us are facing. Will this guy be the one who takes care of my parents when they grow old ? (My father has been jobless since the start of the economic meltdown) Will this guy take care of my siblings who are all still studying? I think this so called expert should not generalize since almost all the time everything is a case by case basis.

^ See above. I think you can call that raising a family too.

I also loved it when he said "we should get off gaming to get ourselves together". How the heck can I do that if I work for a gaming company? Does that make me less?

This expert said it himself in the complete CNN interview.

"For boys to become men, they need to be guided through advice, habit, instruction, example and correction. It is true in all ages. Someone once characterized the two essential questions Plato posed as: Who teaches the children, and what do we teach them? Each generation of men and women have an obligation to teach the younger males (and females of course) coming behind them. William Wordsworth said, "What we have loved, others will love, and we will teach them how." When they fail in that obligation, trouble surely follows."

Then stop blaming the medium when its nurture that's the problem.

[keithsquall]

We’ll I mean it’s better playing video games, than to raise a family, then have a divorce, marry again, then divorce again, marry again, then divcorce again…that’s more sinful than playing video games, than trying to raise a family and be an irresponsible being…The writer of this article don’t really know that video games have stories with moral lessons…. Metal Gear series, Castlevania Lords of Shadows…

[BattleTorn]

it doesn't make the gov't as much money though.

[naruto344]

Why does Video games always get blamed for the worlds problems?!?!?

[_Aarix_]

Because video games are fun and people are stupid.

[SnotyTheRocket]

RIGHT ON THE DOT! BUBBLE!

[rob6021]

To deflect blame from those who are really responsible. If it's our own damn fault it's not theirs you see. The guy who wrote this is a hardcore conservative, he wants you to be guilty not his rich friends.

[artdafoo]

Yea, we should all get married at 25, have 2.5 kids, cheat and live in hell for 5 years till we get divorced then pay $1200+ a month for the ex-wife to drive around in a new SUV with her new jobless boyfriend. Yes that's what real men do ! Lol, fuck CNN.

[mamotte]

You forgot to spend all your money in a night full of beer and whores, instead of buying a game that will give you 100 hours+ of entertainment. That's what real machos do.

[madpuppy]

Don't listen to any of these talking heads! Live your life in a way that makes you happy, take care of your family and don't step on other peoples rights.

The older I get the more I understand the Man that downsizes. Having a small place and a nice car is really not that crazy to me anymore. No headaches, very few bills, No need to work like a dog anymore.

I say if you can Live the way you like working less than Five days a week, I say do it. Time is the one thing that you will NEVER get back. No one on their Death bed has ever said that they wished that they worked more and had less free time to do what they want or spend with family.

[rob6021]

CNN is nerd-baiting for hits I see.. SAD days, do not open the link.

[LoneWanderer09]

I wonder if something critical does happen on 2012 is the world going to blame video games

[gumgum99]

I bet a woman said this... -_-

[Agent_hitman]

I think some people are losing ambitions, not only gamers. All class types of peoples whether rich or poor

[0321]

CNN, Fox. They're all the same, These news channels are just whiny bitches because we're not paying attention to their shitty programming. Agree or disagree, I don't care. It's not going to change the way I think of these corrupt bastards.

[Sheikah]

Stating that women are getting jobs + educations etc. because men are too busy playing videogames... They may want to watch their words. They're not slandering gamers half as much as they're slandering women here...

So, if men weren't so busy being gamers, women would still be at home doing laundry , eh?

[Treyb3yond]

Isnt this whole 'article' sexism to the extreme? Swap this over to 'why women are in trouble because they go on too many shopping sprees and fad diets' there would be outrage.

But because it's men, it's fine?

In western society, White males are the last group the media can pick on with impunity.

It's no go to say anything negative against women, disabled, ethinic minorities, religious groups and homosexuals.

White males though? Go nuts. Say what you like!

[SuperbVillain]

I blame teh skinny jeans

[Vega75]

what CNN fail to factor in was the many benefits thats afforded to women in this country. a women on welfare can get grants and school paid for more than men which is also a reason why more women are in school than men are.

lets look at one of the why some men don't play a role in their kids life. because the courts automaticlly awards custody of the kids to the mother as if fathers can't be care providers just as women are. with most men having to work and pay child support and cover health insurance,school,food,ect for the child. how could they afford to go back to school let alone do anything else.

CNN didn't factor in many reason as to why men aren't doing more in life. but to just blame it on video games or sports or whatever just to slam men without doing proper research just show CNN has no clue of what they are talking about.

[KEVERS]

I'm in my 20's. I have a career, married and have a daughter.....I also play video games.

/Article bebunked

[spinbot_lv1]

this is the greatest bullshit that I ever heard! the lack of ambitions is due to the centralization of richness in the hands of corporations and a small group of politicians and investitors. how can you create a family, your future and be ambitious if you don't have a job and the certainty of redistribution of the richness? without videogames things don't change, you have people with lack of ambitions that don't play videogames.Turn of these programs,people,if you look stupid tv shows you become idiot and a sheep because tv is the propaganda of governaments,instead games open your mind.however the videogames industry (and the passion for videogames)is a great opportunity for business and job.

[Hozi]

I'm in college for Animation and Design. Guess how many boys are in my class? 19 and only 3 girls. I play video games a lot. So how come I'm still managing to go to college and do well, plus maintain a healthy social life with the girls.

I think Parenting levels have dropped so low that children today are growing into confused young adults. They want to be gay, they want to get a sex change, they really can't cope through the ups and downs of life and it's really sad because when you put the bad parenting+Social Network Sites+Media you gonna get one screwed up kid who's gonna have his/her own kids one day and they may end up worse off.

[CanadianTurtle]

I am a 17 year old male, and I take MuayThai-Kickboxing classes. I am also a huge gamer.

I would love for him to say that to my face.

[clindiesel]

CNN clinton news network. Yes lets all get married when its hard enough to find a job a take of yourself these days. Im gonna play for 12 hours today just to spite this article lol

[Bleach]

GLaDOS is controlling CNN

[roadkillers]

I'm a man! I play Demon Souls, so back off!

[a_bro]

COME AT HIM BRO!

[BoneMagnus]

I am 39 years old. I am married; my wife and I have 3 kids. I have a Masters Degree, and I make enough so my wife only works 2 days a week - because she enjoys it.

My main hobby is gaming - which I do after the kids are in bed and I've spent time with my wife. My mature games are locked up, and I wear a headset so no one hears things they shouldn't hear.

I also limit my kids gaming - and make them play outside or with their other toys. And when they do game - its a family thing - Kinect, a bowling tournament on the Wii or co-op Lego Star Wars.

[taijutsu363]

"Does society even need men anymore? Probably not."

TROLOLLOLOLLOLOLOLLOL

[pennywhyz]

fuk cnn and what they think.they want us to become zombies and listen to their bs.go preach your bs politics and call it breaking news.

[th3_d3an]

Im so sick of this shit! those kids in trenchcoats awhile back shot up that school because of video games BULLSHIT the way they were raised period lack of ambition because of video games BULLSHIT i blame the govt how about that the way they have royally fcked this country up why have ambition they would take that away if it would make them money! grow up and realize every person is responsible for their own actions and ambition or lack of!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH VIDEO GAMES! if you believe it does your a sad pathetic man or woman who lacks self confidence and wants to point fingers. cmon man cmon!!!

[Ron Zook]

i just wish that people in the media would stop saying "man up"! its a dumb stupid saying and really doesnt mean anything

[Godz Kastro]

You know as much as I love games I do agree to a certain extent. There are much better things we can do with our time than sit in front of the boob tube and spend hours upon hours gaming. Imagine if we spent some of that time reading, educating ourselves or helping others. I love games just like the next guy but I beat myself up for not spending my time a litte bit wiser.

[OMEGAXS1]

The married people I know or have met are either divorced or said they would not do it again. This comes from both sides, male and female. Screw that article.

[0321]

Lack of Ambition huh? Is that why gamers discovered two new planets? Yep, Sure sounds like lack of ambition to me. Hypocrites.

[unicron7]

Marriage is bullshit. Why would you want to commit to something that takes away all your free time, your freedom, and normally winds up with you losing half your shit? It benefits women far more than it benefits males. Guys who are even remotely THINKING about getting married: Think of it as a legal binding contract more than anything else. If things go south, you lose.

[_Q_]

lol funny I blame all the misinformation from the media and leadership.

[Enigma_2099]

I blame the recession...

[archemides518]

cnn you a damn fool

[GTRrocker]

Fuck CNN and fuck college. I'm sorry, but I went to college for a whole two years. What a complete waste of money. They basically used teach by the book testing, so you virtually learn nothing. I would rather read a book and go online to research and study the subjects that fascinate me instead of going to an over priced institution that doesn't guarantee you anything when you graduate, except years of debt. Screw the standard, these people are clueless about anything going on in the world. Anyone with half a brain realizes that society changes drastically each generation. People develop different ideals than their parents.

[Qrphe]

TV hates on videogames because it's a competing industry. Let us move on with our lives and don't feed articles like this.

Format for posting on this story:
"I'm ___-year old and I have a _____ degree in ______, married with _____ kids and I'm a gamer! F*ck the media!"

[InTheLab]

It's not CNN...just this guy

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/...

Lazy people were lazy long before video games. This guy doesn't get it.

[BushLitter]

I've got four words for CNN:

"Eat Sh*t and Die"

[0321]

This somes it up nicely. Bubbles, Sir!

[BushLitter]

I thank you kindly :B

[Impaler]

Aza Jabar had the best comment on that article lol.

PS. CNN, the 1950's was so 60 years ago.

[lizard81288]

It explains everything. lol

[Ramses3]

Most FAIL question in the article: "Do we really need men?"
Well we do if you want to fucking reproduce and continue the human race, moron.

[MonopolyRSV]

"Get married"? lol.

[MadMax]

This person obviously isnt married nor has children! Yet another typical man bashing article. Yea thats it... do we even need men anymore? Must be a lesbian for one. Lets just stop the human race altogether then. Without us men, this fuckin bitch of a person would not even be here writing this insane article!

Just blown away at what can come out of a persons mouth these days. Maybe women need to stop trying to be like men, because they wanna just be a man. Too many disturbed lesbians and man bashers these days. Get the fuck outta here with your outrageous ideas!

Sounds like a nut with too much time on their hands, that is overly medicated! Act like a frikin woman, its far more attractive for one. Many woman are envious of men and think they will be treated different if they act like us...wrong! Go back to your twitter and get self absorbed into your cell phone, you stupid hipocrite!

[Surt]

but most don't. I'm not a young on. I'm married and have a handsome baby boy. (sorry ladies) But I still play video games. along with watching anime and going hunting with my kin.

CNN.. You guys are sheep. All of you. I WORK FOR MYSELF AND MY OWN. "PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF SOCIETY?" *spits on floor* Not interested. I'm know I'm a bloody man. But I don't pass myself as to the total of what is to be one. Nor do I need your approval.

Your a man by your own right. or woman. or king, or queen. I'm a man, along with many on here. The people cnn? Sheep.

[GamerPS360]

Agree with CNN. It may not apply with you but it does with most.
I was on my way home from my brother's place and picked up Dark souls at midnight. There were about 15 other people in the stores. I can't even explain, they looked terrible, fat, lazy, dirty. I was kind of embarrassed to find myself in their circle.

[unicron7]

Glad I'm not the only one that has experienced that. lol A lot of creepers out there.

[Surt]

gonna play the hell out of it tonight. Tip I got from friends playing it, Use the bonfires buddy. benefits outweigh everything.

[_LarZen_]

The article on CNN actualy makes me sick,angry and shocked that a serious news company like CNN actualy publish and stand by it.

The article sums up the rotten and sick part of the US that is growing like a cancer. People with twisted views on things that dont have any hold in reality.

And people with the same twisted thinking swalows it and agree and belive this is how it is.

There is something rotten in the US, someone should cut of the rotting parts so the rest heals.

[CYBERHATER]

Wow that's hilariously stupid! Way to go CNN! Let me know when you and the rest of news pundits figure out people are responsible for there own individual problems and not the influence of a video-game. Maybe then I'll sit down and watch your show.

[RockmanII7]

Pfft, I'm the manliest man in all of mansville.

[AshleeEmerson]

Ahh someone posted yet another article on this crap. So this is gaming news now? CNN, the new Fox.

[Dasteru]

Ignorant news outlets with there blind idiotic assumptions about video games are the problem.

Heres a nice little fact for CNN to think on. (If thinking is even physically possible for them)

According to a study conducted by the Entertainment Software Association in 2010, 40% of the game playing population is female, and women 18 or older now comprise 33% of all gamers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[MadMax]

Yea, and this is coming from the same people that are walking around town with cell phones glued to their damn heads 24/7, addicted to twitter and facebooking all day. The irony here man, i swear!

[V0LT]

I never knew there was an official person that could call video games childish....... Grow up CNN.

[Soldierone]

Funny. I play video games. I'm in college, about to graduate next semester. Oh by the way thats a year earlier than I'm supposed to. Why? I took classes in high school and extra classes while in college. I write for video game websites and currently trying to run one on my own and make a name for myself. I want to be a screenwriter and have written 3 feature length films within a year. Yeah I play video games.

I would really love to see where these places get their stats from. In my college courses there are more men than woman, in fact in all 4 of my current classes I have about 3 total women, the rest of each 20+ students in each class are all males.

Its funny guys are "wasting their lives" playing video games for 5 hours a day. Yet women go shopping, have "girl time" and all this other women activities throughout the day and nobody says crap about it.

[Tigerfist]

Right... Because after the university people automatically get a job, a steady income and by snaping their fingers a wild perfect woman appears and begs for marriage.

I (along with shitloads of people arround the globe) am trying to chase my dreams while not taking shit from anyone. It's my highway or the highway, so fuck the "man up" stereotype.

Newsflash: Hey CNN!!! Life is a heartless bitch, deal with.

Blaming it on games... lol...

"The Founding Fathers believed, and the evidence still shows, that industriousness, marriage and religion are a very important basis for male empowerment and achievement."

Right... Is CNN aware that most of those so called "virtues" are what startless countless wars and impeded progress?

Way to go CNN... Fucking videogames did it again.

[buckley]

The Founding Fathers also intended separation of church and state. Like that ever happened.

[banner]

Wow… With all the problems we are having in this world, you know things like our government being so irresponsible with money that they forcefully take then have no idea what happens to it. All the wars we continue to head in etc. And the best article CNN can come up with is “get married and have more babies!?” Wtf!

Yea… It’s all my fault the world is so screwed because I enjoy playing gears3…. Let’s just ignore wtf our government really does with all that money they take, let’s just all work harder so they can take more of it.. Let’s keep supporting that 1%!

Work work work… Then work harder! The only loser I see is the writer of this bs…

[buckley]

That's funny... I'm a man, I'm married, I have a good job as a telecom engineer, I freelance for multiple publications, I'm an audio engineer, and I play in a band. I also play hours of a video games a week in the name of reviewing them and good old-fashioned fun.

But clearly those video games are sapping all of my ambition away, right?

[GamerPS360]

lol, loved your bio-data.
I am the president of United States. I also play video games. I just killed bin laden in COD.

[buckley]

Cept then they'd tell you that video games drove you to violence and to kill