Six reasons Final Fantasy Versus XIII is coming to Xbox 360

OXM UK: "Final Fantasy Versus XIII is coming to Xbox 360. Believe it. PlayStation's grasp on the glittering jewel of Japanese role-playing franchises has been gradually eroded over the past half-decade, with first Final Fantasy XIII then its sequel quietly exiting Sony's party. Versus XIII is supposedly the last bastion, the final defensive ring, but word on the ground says otherwise."

[stonecold3]

its ps3 excluisve good luck for a 360 port?

[waltyftm]

Well said.

[DatNJDom81]

I hope it doesn't go multiplat. If it does I won't buy it. FF13 took a hit in quality thanks to the 360. I wouldn't put it past square to actually make it multiplat though. If Versus goes multi, ill pass on that one too.

[Peaceful_Jelly]

Can't wait for FFvsXIII-2! \s

[DragonKnight]

1 reason to not believe a word of this "article"..

It's from Official Xbox Magazine.com

The likelihood of a 360 version is not 0% so I'm not going to rule it out personally. However, if a 360 version is released on or close to the release of the PS3 version, we will then know that it was once again THAT version that delayed the release of an FF game and exactly who to blame for it. Wada and MS' anti-competition clauses.

[DaTruth]

Maybe, but why don't we save the articles about it until they announce it!

Revenues are way down; what do we do!

I know, I'll take a popular game, write an inflammatory article about it, cause a flame-war for hits and problem solved!

Best thing is, I can write the exact same thing in 6 months again!

[Blacksand1]

That's the reason i don't buy FF13 because it went multiplat. If versus not a exclusive i'm not buying it. When the game is a Sony exclusive you can see the Power of the console.

[Sarcasm]

I belive the article only in the reason SE will make more money.

[boommuffin]

some ppl just take fanboyism too far

[bakasora]

Looks like $E is going piss off a lot of people AGAIN.

[Legion]

So funny at some of the comments here.... I won't buy it if they let others play with it too. Whaaaaaa....

[ApplEaglElephant]

that they are not getting any exclusives.

[Jamzluminati]

I thought this was real, then I saw the source website.

[ssb3173]

LOOOL same

[KingPin]

final fantasy 13 was also a ps3 exclusive, and then BOMBSHELL DROPPED at E3.

at this point i dont give a crap if it goes mulitplat, im not going to buy it either way.

they probably working on x360 version at the moment and will release both at the same time. thats why its taking forever to get released.

this could also be why we dont hear any news on it. instead its all ff13-2.

[Tanir]

difference is tetsuya nomura wants it to be ps3 only on this game, though in the end the president has the final say. but eitherway its built for the ps3 and will look, play and run best on the ps3 even if it was on the 360 with 4 discs in Sub hd

[Eu]

And it led to the WORST received FF since, well, forever....untill FFXIV anyway...

SE leting go of their userbase is what screwed FF name this gen...praticaly everyone that is interested in this game and have hopes for it is a PS3 owner. If it goes multi, and it end being another FFXIII screw up (I like the game by the way, just saying what the majority of the fanbase says), Wada is either geting a boot out or SE is going bankrupt this time over....lots of hopes going on this game....

[forevercloud3000]

While no one can deny the strong possibility that this game might go Multiplatform we all know if it is to be the best it can be it really shouldn't.

1.The Kotaku stated ad from SE for someone with PS3/360 experience is normal. Sony First party devs also hire ppl with 360 experience, that is nothing out of the ordinary. And if you look at the wording, it doesn't sound like they were really pushing that fact, if they were we would see them specify for it. It was more like a "We need someone with PS3 exp but we will settle for 360".

2. The game is being designed as a PS3 exclusive as far as Tetsuya is concerned. You can tote the "fantasy" that going mp won't change the game and will boost sales but you would be wrong. We all know of the multiple disc debacle for 360 and how the idea of a game being on both HD consoles keeps them from having MORE content on disc. We have heard of MS's anti competition clauses that impede games(FFXIII,RAGE,LA Noire,Battlefield) and from what we know this game is asking, 360 will assuredly crush it. As for sales, explain to me why FFXIII sold less on a 2console base than previous on one? Because the userbase doesn't matter when the FANBASE lies elsewhere, (see Monsterhunter on Wii in comparison to PSP, or Star Ocean on 360). If FF Versus XIII is to release as an exclusive, it will sell just as well if not better than FFXIII Multiplat on PS3 alone because the FF fanbase resonates with Playstation and it has for decades.

Things that point out of Exclusive's favor...
1.Yoichi Wada: the bane of Square Enix's existance. He has ruined them at every turn and rushed key products before they were ready, effectively sending them to die. Not to mention allowed rediculously long dev times without regular updates due to him spreading SE so thin. It will be his money grubbing say that makes Versus go Multi

2.Microsoft's ultimate goal is to destroy the PS brand name sake. The more games they brought to 360 that were originally exclusive, the more they tarnish the PS name later on. They would pay immeasurable money for this.

3.Super quiet on Versus front. No new trailer in a year, which the last wasn't really all that new to begin with. If anyone remembers correctly, FFXIII got quiet right around the time MS was handing SE that check to make it MP and they pretended as if it was a new development but it had been started already, anyone with common sense can see.

4. Third Party complete abandonment as exclusive game creators(without monetary consent). Gaming has finally become one step closer to the movie industry, soulless.

We will all just have to wait and see what happens nxt from here.

[Reibooi]

What Tanir brings up is something key to this whole debate. Nomura want's the game on PS3 and PS3 only. He is building the game around the PS3 and taking every advantage of said platform. The thing here is that even if Wada has the final say he would be a absolute idiot to demand a multi plat release from Nomura. Nomura is arguably the only TRUE talent left in SE and they cannot risk pissing him off and having him leave and something like making him gimp his masterpiece he has been working on for so long would likely do just that.

360 fanboys need to realize that the 360 DID in fact negatively impact FFXIII. Those who played the Japanese Advent Children Demo will know this. The games Graphics took a massive hit and the 360 version of the game was sub HD and had extremely compressed and tinny Audio. The 360 basically changed what FFXIII was intended to be. Would the game have been great had it stayed PS3 exclusive? No it was clear it had it's issue regardless of platform(although I still enjoyed it) But it would have been a much more solid and much more polished game(again the Advent Children demo confirms as much)

Nomura is pushing the PS3 to it's limits with 360. From the small amount of in game footage we have seen we can tell that graphically it's miles ahead of XIII and if XIII took a hit from going to the 360 then VS certainly would be destroyed by doing such. On top of the fact that the PS3 version of FFXIII outsold the 360 version by like 3 to 1 with almost no advertising. It's clear where the market for the game will be and making the best game they can make instead of gimping it with a MP release is the right way to go. If Wada can't see that he is a moron(which we all know is the case anyway)

[narutogameking]

They are not working on a 360 version. Nomura confirmed months ago that the game is being developed exclusively for the PS3. He said that if a 360 version is released it would be a port.

[Redempteur]

LOL Versus 13 is using LUMINOUS engine assets for environnement lightining ..

THAT alone show that a 360 version can't be done ATM

[baodeus]

@forevercloud3000

"explain to me why FFXIII sold less on a 2console base than previous on one? Because the userbase doesn't matter when the FANBASE lies elsewhere"

ahh...it is a multiplatform game and IF fanbase resonate with ps3 only, well they can still get it. If it is on x360 only then i can see the point, but it isn't.

".Microsoft's ultimate goal is to destroy the PS brand name sake. The more games they brought to 360 that were originally exclusive, the more they tarnish the PS name later on"

1. ah...do u know anything about business and competition? Do u think Sony doesn't want to bring as many games as possible to their console? Same with MS.

2. Developers going multiplatform because of money. The more the better. If Sony is dominant like they used to be "70-80% market share", then 3rd party staying exclusives might be a good idea, but they aren't. What is Sony gaming market share right now?

3. Give me one good reason why 3rd party developers should stay exclusives if they want to make more money?

[gamingdroid]

The fact that FF XIII was released on Xbox 360, makes it almost that more certain that any other game is going to be multi-platform.

SE would almost be stupid not to release it on the Xbox 360. It's just business 101.

[forevercloud3000]

@baodues

I am not saying whether MS's tactics are right or wrong, was just saying that is what they are trying to do, simple fact.

And as far as MP goes there is not a single MP game that existed before this gen as an exclusive that all of a sudden sells more as a MP game. They sell just about the same ore LESS! I am simply saying the idea that a game needs to sell on as many consoles as possible in order to get sales period is false propaganda brought in by MS because they wanted what the 3rd parties were offering Sony exclusively. That is why MGS4 sold just as much as older MGS games on PS3(40million) as they did on Ps2(140million). This proves its not about how many a console's userbase has, its about where the "fanbase" of that particular game is.

Best believe if FFXIII was exclusive, all 6mill sold would have been on PS3, because that is where the fanbase lies. This gen has lost the strongest reasoning to buying all consoles, the exclusives(that utilize the hardware to the fullest). Now many just went for the cheapest...

[gamingdroid]

***This proves its not about how many a console's userbase has, its about where the "fanbase" of that particular game is.***

So basically your claim boils down to:

a) games are only bought by fans

b) having a bigger user base doesn't help sales

Whatever you do for a living, I sure hope it isn't business management!

[Noctis Aftermath]

I hope it stays exclusive, any games after it can be multiplat as this has always been advertised as PS3 exclusive, even after the FFXIII debacle everyone was(and still) told that versus will remain exclusive, it will only make SCEJ look extremely incompetent.

And no, exclusive in japan does not = exclusive, exclusive worldwide and not for a limited time either.

[Kurt Russell]

I don't care... Final Fantasy has been on a downward slope longer than this console generation.

[Jappy-k7]

if it's true why not...Sony does not own Square Enix nor the FF franchise

[Disccordia]

They own around 10%

[Malice-Flare]

we only need one reason that counts: Wada...

[MariaHelFutura]

I don't care what anyone says I'm still hype for this game. It had/has a small team working on it, it seems small studios that take a while crank out gems like team ico, pd, incognito as a few examples.

[ash_divine]

Exactly. I mean, I sorta like the idea of it being exclusive. But it definitely wouldn't phase me if it went multi.

I think the fear stems from people blaming the 360 for XIII's shortcomings. But in reality, XIII would have had the same story, gameplay, characters, etc. whether exclusive or not.

[Crystallis]

What I think will happen is that it will be a launch ps3 exlcusive, then 6 momths later be a port for the 360. Wada might want to see how well the game does on the market before deciding on a port for the 360.

[Megaton]

Yoichi Wada loves money. Microsoft loves giving him money. Versus 13 will be multiplat.

[Prophet-Gamer]

I don't know man, the thing is, MS is really focused on Kinect right now and they don't seem to care about anything else. It's not like when they got FFXIII to go multiplat, back then they were trying to do everything the could to slow down SONY, right now, MS has completely changed their identity. They got FFXIII because they wanted to penetrate the Japanese market, but that's no longer their goal as it's clear that the Japanese don't want them. It's all about Kinect now which is good for business, but bad for us gamers.

Then again, we won't know till the game comes out and who even knows if it's gonna come out at all, lol.

[Gamer3000]

i don't care if the game went to xbox as well
good let every one play

but as long the ps3 version have every thing and nothing cut from it or gimped down then i'm good

they can make it on 6 dvd's on xbox
i don't care

[forevercloud3000]

You can't have both. If a game has to work with the lowest common denominator(last gen it was PS2,this gen its 360) then it only is as good as that console allows. PS3 offers things 360 can't compete with, the most indisputable of them all is BluRay. It has more than 3x the space allowing more content per game. It cost devs money to release a game on multiple discs and MS has clauses that severely punished devs that abused the Multiple discs. This means that they would go with only what was necessary and not everything they wanted.

[Gamer-Z]

@Gamer3000

It would be great if it went to the Xbox360 without damaging the game but because of the X360's disc limitations a lot of content would have to be cut out and dumbed down thanks to Microsofts Multiplat policies. SE themselves said in an interview that they had to cut out so much content from FFXIII that they could have made another game with it and they did - Final Fantasy XIII-2. Basically they took the left overs from FFXIII and made it into another game, that explains why development time for FFXIII -2 was so fast.

[zeddy]

i wouldnt mind this if they didnt have to nerf the 360 version due to storage plus we've been waiting ages for this, how long will it take to port and seperate everything onto 3 disks? this will be the end of square enix as we know it.

[Prophet-Gamer]

1 Reason it probably won't: Nomura. The guy has always been stubborn about keeping it on PS3, and I'm pretty SE wouldn't want to anger him. Besides, SE has pissed off their audience (especially the Japanese crowd) enough as is, even though they may get 1 million units from the 360 version, it wouldn't make sense. They'd just piss everyone off and probably loose out on sales that people will boycott.

[geddesmond]

I love the part about Sony won't pay for the exclusive. For starters what these people obviously don't know is that Sony owns 10% shares in the Square Enix company.

Both companies are Japanese and both companies have a good friendship.

They don't know what conversations these two companies have together. For all we know a deal has already been put into place. Sony could have said look yous owe us such and such from our shares in your company so give us exclusivity on FFV13 and we'll call it quit.

I mean deals like this are made everyday in the world. How many third party developers could have gone multiplat with an exclusive which would open it up to more sales but they chose to stay exclusive.

Also FFV13 is a long time in development. Sony could have had a contract that was writen at the start of this generation.

This is the MGS4 is coming to Xbox shit happening all over again.

[Gamer1982]

Indeed it will get a port maybe at a later date and well we all know ports never sell as well as the original especially RPGS Star Ocean 4 was proof of that.

[derek]

One way or the other the ridiculous amount of development time has killed any anticipation i had for the game. If they were to announce that versus was no longer in development i wouldnot even care, squares foot dragging has killed it reputation this gen.

[Foliage]

Learn to read Legion. People are stating that they will not buy it if it goes multi-plat, since judging from FF13, Square is more than willing to gimp the PS3 version to cater to the weaker 360 console. Although the 360 version still came out much worse, they have gone on record stating many times that they removed features from the game, because it would not fit in the 360 version.

P.S. Is your username "legion", hinting at Mass Effect? I played ME2 on the PS3, and it was a great game. There were some weak areas, but I'm glad multi-plat titles exist. I'm not glad that companies like Microsoft take multi-plat titles and dump millions on them to keep them exclusive for 1 year. It does nothing to aid the industry. Not to mention their horrid business practices of forcing devs to agree to terms that would see other consoles get gimped, because Microsoft happens to have a terrible hardware setup in their 360.

[Ezio2048]

i wanted to read the article but the moment i laid my eyes on the website.....>_>

[refocusedman]

Lol I can give u six reasons why no one cares anymore. How abt we start with ff13 or 14

[Tanir]

you obviously dont know what FF Versus is then if you are disregarding Versus just on an mmo and one fail FF game.

creator is Tetsuya Nomura, Creator of Kingdom hearts and world ends with you.

Open world, vehicles, airships, Kingdom hearts style gameplay, swap characters on fly, main character has multiple weapon types, teleports at will, blood, battle transitions, interactive enviroments, real time weather etc etc. the game is a beast

[Voxelman]

He didn't create The World Ends With You that was Tatsuya Kando, Nomura just did some character design.

[Wizziokid]

that's a shame I was going to buy it, after the whole FF13 flop I lost hope in the franchise

[tiffac008]

Knowing Wada and the delays upon delays his dev shuffling has caused this game. SE needs all the sales they can to make a profit and nothing beats an FF multiplat to make your investors fat wallet happy.

Here is the translated SE job hiring link that Kotaku is linking btw:

http://translate.google.com...

[MaideninBlack]

You know what's more annoying is the fact that 5 years later SE still is trying to hire ppl to work on this game.

[zerocrossing]

I would find it incredibly ironic if the the FF game franchise that saved Square from bankruptcy ended up being the cause of Square Enix's downfall, If that does happen they really have no one to blame but themselves... well mostly Wada.

[zerocrossing]

"@zerocrossing

I don't think FF will cause SE's downfall. We gamers are a forgiving bunch when it comes to our beloved titles."

Yeah I guess that's true. I really doubt Square Enix will be going anywhere, I just thought it would be very ironic since the game franchise that spurd Squares success is really giving them a lot of agro lately.

[modesign]

also, "who cares", this game would of been relevant if it launched with FFXII, but years later people will say "really" by the time it launches we will be playing FFXX. Versus is the new Duke nukem.

[Ron_Danger]

So how many of these websites that write these articles are going to write another article in the future admitting that they were wrong when FFvs13 comes out only on PS3?

Also... Any one else remember 2 years ago when Naughty Dog posted a job listing for someone with PS3 & 360 experience and that article shot up to like 1300 degrees in 10 minutes?

[Micro_Sony]

ND is a first party studio? Why would anyone expect a 360 game from them?

[EVO-OM3GA]

Man anytime there is a FF or Square article its always the same negative comments, too many cry babies.

Why cant anyone just wait for an Official announcement instead of all of this opinions and rumors making them get all upset.

FF13vs is still a PS3 exclusive until its announced otherwise stop your crying

[dafada]

thank you!........this article IS NOT THE OFFICIAL WORD......its just some random dude from an xbox site using kotaku information ......,really!?

[Quagmire]

I dont care if it does or doesnt to be honest. My anticipation for this game ran dry years ago.

I just dont care about Final Fantasy anymore.

[Deadman_Senji]

You're only one person. A lot of people still give a shit.

This isn't a typical "square" game. It's a nomura game. I don't think his soul is up for grabs. If it was he would have cashed in a long time ago and wouldn't even care to take as much time with Versus as he is.

Nothing's going to make him cave. These articles full of denial and spite are just going to have to fall on deaf ears.

[MysticStrummer]

He's only one person and so am I. All the gamers I personally know are each only one person, and none of them are interested in FF anymore.

[jacksonmichael]

I don't feel like caring about Versus XIII counts as caring about Final Fantasy. I think it counts as caring a lot about Kingdom Hearts.

[ignorantsonsof_]

Definitely, the fact that the gameplay was going to be similar to kingdom hearts is what interested me the most about this game.

[Arnagrim]

Didn't they already say they weren't using Crystal Tools as their Engine for Versus XIII?
http://andriasang.com/comy9...

[dirigiblebill]

Crystal Tools is a company-wide 3D toolset. Do you really think they started from scratch with the Versus engine? That's pretty terrible economics.

[dafada]

i think they are using a new different action oriented engine for vs13 thats why its taking so long......new engine built around the ps3 strenghts not the multiplat crystal tools engine

[LightSamus]

I don't care what console it's on, I just want the best game possible. If you can deliver a great game on multiple platforms, great. If it has to be PS3 exclusive to get the most out of it, so be it.

[Shojin1]

6 reasons... I can give you 1 = $$$$.$$

[zeddy]

if they announce this at e3 2012 they will get boo'd at for sure.

[Fanbot]

no way, it should come out in 15 discs. also, it's optimized for PS3 hardware.

[Godmars290]

I really hope Square is more concerned with making a good game than a multiplatform one. Especially when something like this would only repeat the problems with XIII, namely cutscenes taking up tons of space.

And really, a good game would sell more than a multi.

[TheFallenAngel]

I don't care 360 owners can have it when it releases in 20??.

[e-p-ayeaH]

As long the game looks good enough on PS3 im ok with it.

[VampiricDragon]

Not gunna happen dudes. But keep dreaming

Here are my reasons disproving those reasons

1) Uncharted asked for 360 experience. Mario galaxy wanted hd console experience. Enough said. Job postings mean nothing.

2) The ps3 version of 13 outsold it at least 6-1, making the 360 version not worth the cost it takes to manufacture

3) They wont sell dlc if the 360 version does shitty

[Aloren]

"The ps3 version of 13 outsold it at least 6-1, making the 360 version not worth the cost it takes to manufacture" ??

Hmm no, it didn't. It outsold the 360 version 2.5-1 including japan, and 1.5-1 excluding japan. If you think it was not worth for square to sell 1.8 million FF13 on 360, you're ...well, wrong.

EDIT : no need to disagree. That's common sense. It was just as worth for Bioware to release mass effect 2 on PS3, even one year later and with only half a million sales, or for bethesda to release Oblivion (or for Rockstar to release GTA on both platforms and so on).

[ash_divine]

@Aloren

Well actually it depends.

What if they made 60 million off the 360, but it cost them 120 million to produce said version? Then they would have actually lost money. So you can't just say it was worth it because they sold some extra copies.

The financial success of any given product is heavily dependent on what it cost to produce said product. (selling 5 million is good, unless you need 7 million to break even.)

That being said, I'm not against XIII being on the 360. But it's not as simple as "well, they sold that extra million."

[Aloren]

Well, of course it's not that simple, but let's be realistic. It's like saying that if it cost them 1 billion to make it on ps3 , they would lose money too... but no game cost 1 billion, and no port cost 120 million. It probably didn't even cost a tenth of that.

2 million additional sales is good news for any developer...

[ash_divine]

@Aloren

I'm well aware that it (most likely) didn't cost that much. It was a hypothetical example. I actually meant to make that clear in the original post. (but I obviously forget).

The numbers don't really matter here, it's the idea that's important.

All I'm saying is that we shouldn't assume it was or wasn't a success based off the sales alone. There are more factors involved then just that.

[C0MPUT3R]

They also lost a million sales by putting it on the 360.

Worse Game = lower review scores = lower sales.

[leahcim]

OBVIOUSLY IS COMING TO XBOX 360

[dorron]

Can't say I'd be surprised if this was true...Still, plenty of exclusives for PS3 on the way. This one doesn't matter that much.

[ignorantsonsof_]

Considering this is the last game on the list of games that made me buy a PS3, and i'm sure i'm not alone when I say that, I think it does. Also with nomura wanting to build this game around the PS3's capabilities, and with how much content was cut from XIII due to the multiplatform release, it definitely matters.

[Ddouble]

I wouldn't say it's clear cut IMO. I can see it going multiplatform just because of money (Wada) not those reasons given.

1. The Versus team is hiring people with Xbox 360 credits

The job listing says "PS3 package title experience as necessary, "or otherwise an Xbox 360 package title. Their looking first and formost for someone with PS3 experience not straight up hiring someone with the 360 experience.

2.They'll sell more copies that way

This is true but if they lower the quality to make it multiplatform and reviews are average then that could make it worse. After XIII and XIV people are skeptical over any new FF game released.

4. Xbox 360 players are steeped in the Final Fantasy XIII universe

Yes because its confirmed all 2 million 360 buyers loved the game.

5. Crystal Tools is a multiplatform engine

"Versus XIII has its own action game-oriented engine. The lightning tech from Luminous is being coupled with this for Versus XIII.

Nomura describes Luminous as an excellent engine that can be used with any game. The Versus XIII engine, on the other hand, is strong in specific areas, but is not a general purpose engine."

http://andriasang.com/comy9...

6. Sony won't pay up to keep it exclusive

It's not just up to sony. I don't think Nomura himself wants it to be multiplatform but hey MS got money to spend but is the money worth reducing the games quality for a platform where Jrpg's dosen't even sell that well? Stay tuned.

[Eu]

Im actually banking on Nomura leaving SE sooner rather than later....there have been rumors about he and his team not being happy with how SE has been managed for a few years now....Versus becoming multi may be what drives them off from SE if it happens....theres a lot of devs out there that would love to *help* such a great development team...and SE would once again let a great asset going aways because they were stupid..it happend a few times before..

[Ron_Danger]

I agree with point #3.. :-)

[elbeasto86]

I don't doubt that it will come to the X360 but some of this information is wrong. Also, without X360 being sold in Japan anymore I doubt that it would have that much more sales. Also, keep in mind that FFXIII sold more on the PS3 than the X360. FFXIII and FFvsXIII are not in the same universe. There is no Cocoon or Pulse in this game.

You know.. I feel like shit giving this site a click. Normally I wouldn't care but damn.. :S

[girlwithturn]

FF franchise failed this gen, except Crisis Core title.

[_Aarix_]

And chaos rings but it was only published by them.

[Crystallis]

I dont know Final fantasy type-0 is looking mighty fine.

[Liamario]

I would be very surprised if this game didn't come to the 360. The only thing that would surprise me more us if anyone gave a shit.

[Knightofelemia]

Why the he'll would Sony pay to keep the game an exclusive it's the developer who decides if the game becomes exclusive. Either by getting paid or by brand loyalty and now a days developers decide to go multiplatform to rake in more revenue going multiplatform than staying an exclusive to one console.

[Ragnaarock]

1) As others have said before, just because you are hiring people with 360 experience doesn't mean it will become multi plat. At the end of the day if you have either PS3 experience or 360 you are competent in your field of expertise whether it be coding, development, or whatever.

3) The whole idea of having 50GB of disc space is that a developer can put all their ideas and give the consumer a COMPLETE game that doesn't need DLC. Most DLC is cut portions of an original game that they couldn't fit on a DVD. If you look at Lost Planet 2, capcom said that they had to cut a lot of content to fit everything on one disc.

6) Honestly if Square keeps screwing Sony over I would like to see Sony sell all of it's stock in Square and just watch them collapse as a company, then they can buy up all the remaining assets of square with the money the made from selling the stock in square. Seeing as how Sony saved Square from going under in 2002, they should be more grateful. I know Enix hold the majority of the stock in the relation but Sony is the second biggest business partner they have.
http://www.gamepro.com/arti...

Also i didn't bother with 2,4, or 5 since Ddouble said it well enough.

[Mr402]

At this point who cares? Square lost there grip on that series with XII. They would be fools not to get as many sales as possible by not releasing this stateside for 360. Japan stays PS3 exclusive every where else it will be multiplat.

[CLOUD1983]

Well if it goes mp things r simple SE is going to loose a big % of it's fanbase including me and this time will be final we gave SE enough chances already Versus is going to be the final chance impress us or go fck off once and for all.

[Gamer-Z]

I agree going multiplat would be a bad move on SE's part, not only would they piss off a lot of loyal FF fans but they would also lose favor in Japan where most of Final Fantasy's market is.

[tuanmatized]

you mean they'd piss off FanBoys like you?

HMMMMMMM? LOL

[josephayal]

My XBOX 360 is ready!!

[The EDGE]

My ps3 that is capable on runing this game on one disc is ready:)

[Bleach]

"I don't think Nomura himself wants it to be multiplatform"

This is the main reason it's not coming to the 360. Nomura wanted to make a PS3 exclusive and thats what hes doing.

[PirateThom]

I don't think vapourware can come to any platform.

[necronzero]

Stupid article is stupid... OXM Fails.

[BrianC6234]

Why would this game be coming to the 360? It isn't. If it was Square would have already announced it.

[Tuxedo_Mask]

It seems kind of odd that a lot of the comments supporting a multiplatform release also say they don't care about the game. The thing is, there are still a lot of people who do care about FFvsXIII, myself included, and from what we were shown in the last trailer it looks like it will be a massive game with incredible graphics.

I seriously doubt if the 360 would be able to even match a fraction of what has been shown, and don't forget that the plan is for a seamless transition from cutscenes to gameplay. Anyone who has played XIII knows that's not the case in that game, and the differences are even more obvious on the 360 version.

Even if you enjoyed XIII, and I really don't think it was that bad of a game, you can't deny that it was compromised for the sake of a multiplatform release. Watch the video I've attached below and tell me if you really think what it shows would be possible on the 360, because I just don't see how it could be.

[baodeus]

@Urizen

"I seriously doubt if the 360 would be able to even match a fraction of what has been shown"

I seriously doubt u haven't even play any of these games then if all u based was from the video u posted.

Here watch these if u think x360 can't do open world game. Do u (or any of ps3 fanboy for that matter) seriously think FF13vs from your video look better than these? Remember, they are also on one DVD (except witcher 2). I welcome any discussion or counter argument.

RDR
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Skyrim
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Witcher 2
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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Fable 3
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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Assassin Creed
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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[Tuxedo_Mask]

The 360 is capable of some high quality visuals, the links you've provided prove that, but what we see in the newest FFvsXIII trailer looks a lot better than those other games.

While some of the better graphics are in the cutscene portion of the trailer and the actual gameplay looks closer to what we've seen on the games you've shown, you have to remember that the game still isn't finished yet. That means that there is the potential for FFvsXIII to be the best looking game on consoles this generation. We also don't know the actual size of the game, so it could be the size of all the games you've listed combined.

The truth is that we really don't know how FFvsXIII will turn out in the end, but if FFvsXIII remains a PS3 exclusive and ends up being lackluster we'll only have SE to blame. I have high hopes that we won't be disappointed, but the lack of support SE has shown the PS3 this gen makes the possibility that SE will port the game to the 360 feel like yet another disheartening idea. We all know that when a game is developed for multiple platforms the quality suffers. There are many examples of that, including FFXIII.

It's not about denying 360 owners the possibility to play it, it's about finally getting some attention from SE after they released Infinite Undiscovery, The Last Remnant, and Project Sylpheed exclusively for the 360. No matter what you may have thought about the quality of those games, 360 players got them while PS3 players were shut out. The Last Remnant was even touted to be their first multiplatform game to be released on PC, 360, and PS3 simultaneously. SE has already released plenty of games that are exclusive to the 360, yet no one seems to complain about that, but how many exclusives have they released for the PS3? Zero.

[Neko_Mega]

Haven't they been working on it for PS3 only? An they be fools to do that after how bad Final Fantasy 13 did on 360.

Plus didn't they say if it does good on PS3, then Kingdom Hearts 3 would be made PS3 only?

[Tzuno]

1.Money
2.Money
3.Money
4.Money
5.Money
6.Money

[narutogameking]

Nomura confirmed months ago that the game is ONLY BEING DEVELOPED FOR PS3. Here's a direct quote from him

"Multiplatform is when you start development on a game with the assumption of optimizing for multiple platforms. Porting is something that's done after you've developed a game specifically for a particular platforms[sic]. The debate over porting is decided by the management based on the current market and the costs. All I can say right now as a developer is that Versus is being developed specifically for the PlayStation 3."

There you go. There is no 360 version being worked on.

[KMCROC]

Didn't they say something along those line for GTA 4, LA,direct quotes from someone too.

[Mrmagnumman357]

Even if it goes multiplat, this will be a game that is far better on ps3. Also i want a "6 reasons OXM should start talking about 360 article" Isn't this a 360 magazine, not ps3?

[lumley666]

i hope it stays with sony, will be a better game for it no doubt, all the time wasted on ff13 porting to 360 i bet had an impact on the quality of ff13, tho im not confident it will stay exclusive. only time will tell.... fingers crossed

[goodfellas27]

I personality don't care if it comes out on 360/PS3 since the last two FF games weren't up to standard -IMO.

I just hope that Square gets back to their old days and make QUALITY JRPG every year. I remember the PS1/PS2 era when no one could touch them; they used to owned the JRPG market.

[zero_cool]

I also want this game to remain a PS3 exclusive i don't want to see another promising game scaled down in size & quality just so it can go multi-platform.

[jeegee]

Since SE have a history of choosing the most powerful platform available at the time for all their canon games.

They soon dumped Ninty off when they stuck with cart on N64. PS had most storage so they went there.

And you can't argue that FFXI on 360 doesn't look better than on PS2 (which btw never got a euro release tyvm SE).

But now let's get to the numbers.

since FFX the final fantasy series has generally been critically panned by players. FFX-2, whilst entertaining was essentially a money spinner, that failed. FFXI is still being played today by players on 3 platforms, so we can hold this one in high esteem, despite it being essentially an exercise in futile grinding and crafting ;)
FFXII was simply OK.. not much more and nothing less.....
We shall ignore FFVII:Crisis Core and Dirge of Cerberus
(since they make me sad)
FFXIII felt odd, I am currently playing it and just cant identify with juxtaposition of JRPG and only semi customisable battle plans/skills/weapons. If i wanna accidentally turn my tank character into a microphone waving miniature frog then I will!.

Where am i going with this? .... i dunno, lost my way

just like SE........

[timemuffin]

No offence, I'm definatly not trying to troll or flame you. A whole lot of players adored 10. Some even call it the series best. While not my fave, I liked it very much. Crisis Core was also very well recieved. As for the other games you mention I bet you wouldn't have to look to hard to find someone who would defend thier merits either.

[jeegee]

I'm not debating the fact they have their fans.
and i did say since X, it was not included.

The point I was trying to make is that the games have been moderately successful and at sometimes mediocre. SE until of late was know as the creators of a tour de force in RPG. Now they are gaining a reputation of a company that puts out inferior product to a mass market, still riding on the crest of 7,8 and X. FFXIV has been a shambles! ahem, sorry 'bout that but it REALLY does make me sad...
Final Fantasy is a series i have cherished (strong word but true) since its availability in the UK!
And now it's Hard Times for the JRPG masters. One day they will re-make VII and destroy it all or win the day...

[Crystallis]

I totally agree. Final Fantasy is my favorite series out of all video games series. What has ruined it somewhat is greed. Wada is focusing on how many platforms he can release it on rather then the quality. Noruma on the other hand wants quality hence the reason VS is only a ps3 exclusive.

[timemuffin]

I really don't see any reason to doubt that ff13v will go multiplatform. Square enjoys selling copies of games and they will reach a broader audience if the game is available on both consoles. Why care? It would be different if all of a sudden the game became a Microsoft exlusive but thats not going to happen. If your planning on boycotting based on platform status then you should go ahead and cancel your preorder because 98% sure this is going to happen.

[Crystallis]

I can see a port sometime down the road but as for VS being released on the ps3 and 360 at the sametime, well I highly doubt that. What you have to consider is that Noruma has a lot to say about his game. Granted hes not the CEO but people dont seem to take his role as "what I say goes" seriosuly.

[DarkZane]

Nomura said he is making it specifically for PS3, then it's not his problem. So it will come to PS3 and if a 360 version is released, it will be later.

Of course, the 360 version will be gimped as hell, due to the fact the engine for FFv13 is made just for it on PS3. In other words, it can't work on anything else than FFv13 on PS3. They have to use the FF13 engine and the difference it quality would be just too obvious.

Also, it seems they haven't figured out the reason the 360 is getting XIII-2 is so the 360 players shut up. When a dog keeps barking at you, you give him a bone and it will stop for a while, no matter how old and disgusting the bone is.

[baodeus]

@darkzane

yeah, if the ps3 player keep barking long enough, FF13vs might stay exclusive.

[mkcoolsubzero]

I would like it if Square Enix did this...

Keep Final Fantasy with Sony, and make a whole new RPG for the 360. The whole market wins!!

Oh, and get rid of Wada and make Nomura president. Yes, I enjoy a lot.

[madjedi]

Slight problem with this, the sales trends have shown the 360 audience(not individuals but as a whole) are really not interested in jrpgs, and many of the western rpgs released now are more shooter than rpg.

I think se needs to take a step back, refocus their energies significantly away from trying to appeal to the casual western shooter market. And focus on releasing ff 13-2 and versus with the best possible quality that would please people disillusioned by ff13 or se's dumbass choices thus far this gen.

And yeah if being exclusive to one system would make for a superior game, then make it for the more powerful first, the console are at their cheapest $250 and$199.

Stop wanting everything mp, so you cheap bastards don't have to get another console, i want the best game possible for me personally.

If that means you have to buy another system, thats your problem, i am paying for my gaming enjoyment, not wanting to constant settling for a inferior than it could be experience, because every cheapass out there demands all game be mp.

[taijutsu363]

Does SE hate making money or something? JEEZUS! FF was a good series when it was a PS exclusive the quality of the game and the sales they made from those games NEVER wavered! But once it goes 360 BAM! FFs rep drops quick as hell!

[madjedi]

Se was screwing up before they decided to make ff13 mp, that was just point of no return for some this gen. Versus could redeem the ff brand slightly, but if wada treats it like he did ff13, i'm done with se this gen.

Give us a real ff game and people will buy it, too much more of this shady business like with 13 having alot of content cut, then 13-2 comes out 2 yrs later and your fanbase will disappear. For non-rpgers, rpg are generally expected to have 3-4 yrs between them, not every 2 yrs like lite story ect fps's.

I almost wonder if versus will be the last significant se game released this gen, still no word on kingdom hearts, at least that i know of.

Am i alone in thinking this generation still has a long way to go in matching the ps2, in both quality and quantity when it comes to jrpgs.

[DFresh]

These reasons are bogus.

1.) Hiring people with Xbox 360 experience?

Square Enix makes many multiplatform games so ofcourse they would want developers with experience on multiple platforms.
That doesn't mean this game will go multiplatform.

2.) They'd sell more copies that way?

LOL.
5M = PS3
2M = Xbox 360
XD
(Xbox players will be too busy playing MW3 to care. smh)

3.) They'd sell more DLC that way.

That's plausible.

4.) Xbox 360 players stepped in Final Fantasy universe.
Only 2M people bought FFXIII on Xbox 360 while over 5M people bought it on PS3.

5.) Crystal Tools is a multiplatform engine.

FFXIII Versus is using a completely different engine made from the ground up on PS3 called the White Engine.

6.) Sony won't pay to keep it exclusive?

Just look at all of the 3rd party PS3 exclusive DLC lately.
Yeah.
:P

[pomoluese]

Sony's smart not to make it exclusive and even if there are 2 million xbox users that played XIII, I doubt any of them want any more

[HALE2K]

well I hate to say it but looks like Square sold out again, lets take a history lesson here ok, Final Fantasy 13 was already done for PS3 and yet it got delayed so they could make a POS port to an inferior system, don’t be mad its just facts, so after square got Microsoft’s little money bag they delayed ff13 which was already done for us PS3 fans, so that FF13 would release simultaneously between PS3 and 360 so we had to wait a whole damn year because of this, and now it looks like were getting the Love again because its been a year and guess what I don’t see Versus anywhere, just a thought boys and girls, so don’t get your hopes up or they will get shit on like mine did and now I am stuck with a half ass version of a final fantasy game that could have and should have been nothing short of Amazing. HALE...

[Enzo]

At this point, I couldn't care less. I just want the damn game to come out and enjoy the epic quest.

[leemo19]

Im sure the rumor isn't true cause it is from Kokatu but giving that FF-13 went to 360 it could but until the pres of Square enix says the game is going mp i wont believe it. Didn't square enix learn no one cared for FF13 on 360 cause why its jrpg. 360 owners don't care for that style its either wrpg or fps mainly. I'm no fanboy really but 360 screwed FF13 it came so limited and dub down to fit the limitation of the 360 and became the worst FF made, so why would square enix want to ruin another FF game to go mp. I wish squaresoft was around those are the true FF Dev

[tordavis]

Armchair developers at it again I see.

[madjedi]

Yeah right and yet you never discuss console strengths or developers actions on the warzone ect.

Better random biased gamers than a podcast host who knowingly asked a individual's opinion on game development topics that he knew lied about being a indie dev.

I am a simple biased nobody pro sony gamer, your a "games journalist" whats your excuse for less than ethical behavior?

[tordavis]

None of what you say is true.

[NotSoSilentBob]

Same as FF13. If it goes multi-plat the game will suffer and loose another potential sales here.

[Hyperbomb69]

It better not happen or Wada will pay. He already gimped up FF13 for you 360 kids let us have one REAL Final Fantasy game, If you really want to play it buy a PS3. This game needs to stay exclusive, Nomura is one of the few good SE members left. piss him off and hes leaving. We NEED at least one REAL Final Fantasy game this gen, and by real I mean a good Triple A PS3 exclusive game.

[GarandShooter]

Maybe that's exactly what you should want to happen.

Think of the possibilities.

Nomura gets pissed, leaves SE, Sony hires him to head a newly formed first party studio, and voila, you have a real AAA exclusive, a real Nomura game, just not under the Final Fantasy name.

[Hyperbomb69]

yeah youre probably right lol.... but still I mean cmon... FF has been PS exclusive since 7.. the only FF's Xbox had were the mediocre spinoffs...

[madjedi]

I think it's safe to say if he does leave and get funding/seed money for his own studio, you will likely see several senior developers quit se and join him.

Though probably on more friendly terms than iw-respawn was.

[shotgun_ps3]

It could come out on whatever console it likes (as long one of them is the PS3) for all I care as long as it hurries up and bloody gets released all ready.

[koehler83]

Might have cared 5 years ago.

[Fadetoblack69]

Pfft... Square's dead to me anyway, I couldn't care less if I ever see another FF game because they suck at making them. I wouldn't touch a 360 so M$ is more than welcome to have them.

Square should give up on games and stick to working on movies now, that seems to be about all they're good for anymore.

[PhunnyJesta]

5. Crystal Tools is a multiplatform engine

LOL too bad nomura announced at TGS that its using an engine specifically for the game

[PhunnyJesta]

disagree and no attempt to prove me wrong = hating xD

[colonel179]

I didn't disagree, but it is not an engine specifically for the game. It's the crystal Tools, specifically altered for the game so it take advantage of the PS3 as most as possible. They are also using the lighting engine from their next-gen engine for the game.

P.S. It's funny they are already using a next-gen engine for a game that was announced 6 years ago, and was supposed to use the then, next-gen engine Crystal Tools.

[strifeblade]

the only thing that makes versus xiii a ps3 exclusive- it's the fact its going to be on one disc. Thats as exclusive as it gets for the ps3... guaranteed

[Voxelman]

Wii U port is more likely

[tuanmatized]

SE just wants to broaden its market in order to get as many sales as it can.

plus, it's a freaking 3rd party company.

With the costs of game development today, they'd be stupid to not tap into the rest of the hardcore gaming market.

FFXIII's arrival on the 360 was the smoking gun.
The writing is on the wall.

FF13versus is next.

[madjedi]

Yeah it's attempt to broaded their market is exactly why they are in the trouble they are in with their fans of old, that and stupid decisions for the first part of the gen.

[Relientk77]

It might go to 360 since FFXIII, I guess well have to wait and see

[MultiConsoleGamer]

The first reason should have been "financial necessity.

[FreydaWright]

As long as Square doesn't make any compromises, i.e. cutting material from the story. As far as cost and resources, it would only seem more plausible to keep this exclusive to the PS3, seeing as it's 360 counterpart would require 5 discs.

[FreydaWright]

its*

[Dark_king]

Its staying on the PS3 for one major reason.It was made for the PS3 with full intent to use the power the system has.Nomura is a artist who would actually leave the company before he is forced to compromise his art.As long as he is project head its staying exclusive.At this point in time Im not even sure it could go multiplat.Its been made to use the cell to do alot of real time calculations.Things the 360 Cpu couldn't handle at the same time as the decompression.Its not just that it would require alot of discs,space is just one area the PS3 has the edge.Nomura asked wada at the beginning if the game would be multiplat or not because if not he could use the full potential of the PS3.Its a PS3 exclusive an will stay that way.

[Soplox]

You know XBOX want to have all the PS3's games. They know PS3 has better and more games. Also the could help the XBOX on Japan. But you know what? It wont happen.

[Agent_hitman]

Xbox 360 version of versus13 will have 20 discs confirmed!!!! LOL

[forbes20]

yuch xbox already ruined ff 13 now the idiots want to do the same to versus just let it go xbox your poxy box cant handle it it ff team had there way the game would be 50gb and extremly high graphics this game has to stay with ps3 or it will never reach its potential ff used to be the series that maxed out what was possible now in making it multiplatform it gets nowhere close its really sad

[Nugundam0079]

Im going to feel bad for both you guys when it's announced for the Wii-U as well LOL.

[XeNoStRatoS]

I won't get it if it comes to 360 since this means reduction in quality for no good reason - those compromises have to end! Promised is promised and if the focus lies on PS3 the quality will be much better as well as content.

On the other hand I would not care if FFvsXIII will come to the next generation MS system which will be able to play the game in the same or better intended quality as the one and only version with PS3 as lead platform (this was a smooth move of Bethesda with Oblivion IV). But for this generation I want a shining and intended for PS3 only product or I won't get it.

This is about dedication and there is out enough great stuff for us to play so SE better sticks to their plan without greed which seems responsible for their fail this gen.