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Braben: Kinect navigation “far more natural than a left analogue stick”

Developers are still building a “vocabulary” for Kinect controls, David Braben has said in his Develop 2011 keynote – but it has advantages when building a game for a “for an audience who aren’t familiar with a controller.”

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MrSpace4657d ago

"“for an audience who aren’t familiar with a controller"

How long have controlers been around now, please come on, I think mostly everyone knows how to handle a controler now and what it is.

dangert124657d ago

This guy is a clown i watch then kinect demo and i got fed up of hearing

xbox here
xbox there
xbox up
xbox down
xbox left
does that sound natural to you?
all this fucking talking and you want to switch here and there i don't mind using the analog but a good idea would be to add personal prefered short cuts to the shoulder buttons

NoobSessions4657d ago (Edited 4657d ago )

I can see where he is coming from however. My father for instance loved playing pacman in the arcades back in his day, but when I showed him Pacman DX he couldn't stand using the xbox controller.

Kinect would be easier to use for a non-gamer than a controller in most cases I would assume.

IRetrouk4657d ago

not really, the joystick from the old pac man games is very similar to the left stick, how would kinect help on anyway, if anything it would make it more difficult, for non casual games mind.

SilentNegotiator4657d ago

Yeah, new gamers are WAAAAAY too stupid to handle pushing a control stick forward. Waving their arms and legs around will be MUCH more natural.

/s

DERP.

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JokesOnYou4657d ago (Edited 4657d ago )

"I think mostly everyone knows how to handle a controler now and what it is."

Key word: "familiar", yeah everyone knows what a controller is, however there are still gazillions of folks like my Mom, Dad, Sister, Aunts, Cousins or basicly a large majority of the world who just think the standard 360/ps3 controller is too complicated....and thats exactly who Braben is referring to when he says: “for an audience who aren’t familiar with a controller.”= games like Kinect Sports(over 3mil sold), Dance Central(over 2mil sold), etc, you know games you control without a standard controller, lol if you don't think that appeals to a huge potential market of consumers who like stuff like *Angry Birds but would otherwise not engage in full console type games because they think a 360 controller is too complicated then you're lost. In fact 360 4gb kinect is #1 on Amazon, with Kinect Sports and Dance Central outselling many other recent exclusive games.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/be...

Thats not a accident, I've been to the mall quite a few times over the last several weeks, theres a microsoft store there with a big kinect setup outside demoing Dance Central, and other games, I always watch for 5 or 10 minutes, theres always a large crowd with young and old, wanting to try kinect, and I overhear folks talking about wanting to buy and some actually go buy it after playing. I dont know if I'm expressing this right, maybe you just have to be there to see it for yourself but even though those games don't mean much to me, I'm still amazed that micro has actually been able to draw that kind of attention right from under nintendo's nose.

gamingdroid4657d ago (Edited 4657d ago )

They have been able to draw that kind of attention from Nintendo, because their system is even simpler than the Wii.

Full body tracking is something you could only dream of in the past and now it is in an affordable packaging for home use.

My mom would never touch the left analog stick to navigate. As Nintendo said, the Wii mote looks like a remote, because it is more familiar. It couldn't get more familiar with no remote!

Many people that recently grew up with technology don't understand that the digital divide actually happens in the home, not just between the poor and the rich. One day, technology will move past us "young" generation too, if we aren't simplifying it.

It's about widening the accessibility and Kinect does that wonderfully.

That said, looking forward to the new dash with complete Kinect integrated.

metsgaming4657d ago

i usually use the dpad when navigating the xmb much better and then the analog stick.

Kur04657d ago

My younger cousins prefer controllers for movement and they are only 6.

4Sh0w4657d ago (Edited 4657d ago )

OK, So whats your point? Here I'll fix it so your statement makes more sense in context of this article:

"My younger cousins prefer controllers for movement and they are only 6, but I understand what he means because I'm sure UNlike my younger cousins there is a huge demographic of consumers who won't play games because of controllers." -Oh, OK thats what you meant to say, yeah makes sense.

My daughter is 9 and likes using the controllers to play games like SMB on her wii, but she prefers kinect because she plays kinect sports alot more than any of her games, begs for permission to invite her friends over to play it. I'm guessing this guy assumes there are many, many more like my daughter who like the idea of not using a controller. Hell I own tons of hardcore games on both ps3 and 360, exclusive and multiplat, yet I love the occasional play of kinect sports, kinect adventures and watching the wife play Dance Central. I hope to see more games that appeal directly to hardcore fans, but if not thats OK, there will always be games like Gears3 for traditional 360 owners.

Do people ever stop to think that everything a company makes isn't intended to cater to them, you brought a console, it has great (hardcore) games, and just because you personally don't like kinect games doesn't mean its garbage, why not let those people who do like it enjoy it?

Damm, nothing good to say but you keep following a product you dont care for, you guys are just the worst kind of haters.

gamingdroid4657d ago (Edited 4657d ago )

I agree with you, not sure why the disagrees but I guess you said something positive about Kinect. That said:

***yet I love the occasional play of kinect sports, kinect adventures and watching the wife play Dance Central***

Not to bring up dirty thoughts (or insult you) in a discussion about children, but I like that! Too bad, I don't have Dance Central.

SilentNegotiator4657d ago (Edited 4657d ago )

Of course you don't understand the disgrees, gamingdroid, you're always trying to SELL the Kinect here in the comments section.

"Full body tracking is something you could only dream of in the past and now it is in an affordable packaging for home use"

BILLY MAYES HERE with the xbox Kinect! Full body tracking in an affordable home package! Look at this amazing futuristic technology! It's great for the whole family. Now everyone in the home can enjoy video games!

If spent less time trying to sell the Kinect to people on N4G, you might understand why someone would get disagrees for warping someones comment about controllers being easy for some guy's little cousin to use.

Veeger4657d ago

Far more natural, far less convenient and accurate. Driving a car is far less natural than running. Now what?

KingSlayer4657d ago (Edited 4657d ago )

I agree. If the audience isn't familiar with a controller, there are definite benefits to Kinect. That said, there are quite a few young children unfamiliar with a controller that play Wii/360/PS3 games without issue. Hell, even mouse and keyboard.

wicko4657d ago

Nothing beats a decent directional pad for menu nav (at least on console)

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David Braben to step down as CEO of Frontier

From GI.biz: "David Braben is stepping down as CEO of Frontier Developments, and will be replaced by chief creative officer Jonny Watts.

Braben has been CEO of Frontier since he created the company in 1994 and will remain at the studio as president and founder. The announcement clarified that this is an "executive director position" where Braben will "retain his leadership and vision for Frontier’s strategic direction."

Watts joined Frontier in 1998, first as software developer before moving on to senior production roles, and eventually CCO in 2012. His appointment as CEO is effective immediately."

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PhillyDillyDee617d ago

Hey how about some more support for elite:dangerous? Maybe market it a bit? No? Okay…

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Joy Ride Turbo - The Beginning of the End for Xbox Kinect

Joy Ride Turbo launched 10 years ago today. The first title was Xbox Kinect exclusive, yet this sequel failed to support the device at all.

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10 of the Biggest Video Game Hardware Failures Ever

Cultured Vultures: "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal, and no matter how much developers might try, some gaming hardware just fails to hit the mark. We’ve compiled a list of 10 gaming hardware fails, and boy did some fail hard."

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Knightofelemia818d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog818d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry916818d ago (Edited 818d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing69818d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming818d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer79818d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember817d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog818d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop818d ago (Edited 818d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog818d ago (Edited 818d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop818d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic817d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop817d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic816d ago (Edited 816d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal818d ago (Edited 818d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic817d ago (Edited 817d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf10818d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar818d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf10818d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell818d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf10818d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv72818d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming818d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog818d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming818d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming818d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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