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Xbox 360 on Windows 8 - Which Games Can Evolve?

MMGN writes: If you could play any Xbox 360 game on your PC, which one would you choose?

That’s the question gamers are asking as revelations hit the internet suggesting a new feature that will allow the playing of 360 games on hardware-permitting PCs.

It was always going to happen, especially after the merging of Xbox.com and Games for Windows, which alludes to a combined PC and console effort on the agenda at Microsoft.

The Xbox 360 might be lacking in exclusives when compared to the PlayStation 3, but that hasn’t left me pondering how, and why, certain Xbox 360 games would translate on PC.

Ranshak4664d ago

Most Xbox exclusives are already on the PC. The ones that arent generally PC gamers dont care about those games.

why would any PC gamer really care about:

Halo: when FPS are a dime a dozen.
Fable: we already got much better RGPs, beside Fable isnt what it used to be.
Gears of war: Gears 1 already came to PC, PC gamers didnt like it, again like FPS games 3rd person shooters are a dime a dozen. Nothing to be excited about.
Forza: Thats one game PC gamers may like, but again there are so many other racers out.

I personally dont see a single game from the Xbox exclusive list that PC gamers would really like to own.

bozebo4664d ago

Lost Odyssey and Halo. That is all.

Legion4664d ago (Edited 4664d ago )

I think people are looking at this from the wrong perspective.

Being able to play Xbox 360 games on your PC does a few things that support us at gamers.

It allows cross platform gaming. If my friends (especially my PS3 friends) who want to be able to play that game of Gears of War or Halo:Reach that we are talking about at work and doesn't want to invest in an Xbox 360... he can purchase the game if he owns a PC then he can talk trash with us at work the next day on how he owned us. Or even that game of Black Ops if they want to compete against Xbox players and show their talents. It opens up the competition.

For me the gamer. So many older systems I have owned and though I have reduced my console footprint by getting rid of my older consoles... I would still love to play some of the games. I can see this as being able to keep my Xbox 360 game library when I move onto the Xbox Next/720. Knowing that I won't need to worry about if I still have my old Xbox 360 console. Think of all the Sega saturn, PS1/2, xbox disks that you have and want to play. Wouldn't it be great to be able to throw the game disk into your PC and play them like you did on the old console?

This is more then just about getting PC gamers to buy Xbox games. It is opening up the gameplay across the board. Allowing gamers to game with gamers. Attempting to close the gap between people who want to play with others. Isn't that what we have really been looking for in the future of gaming? This is just the first step in the future of what we can look forward to in multiplayer connectivity.

Sounds like a soap box rant... but I really don't see a negative in this option to play Xbox 360 games on the PC. If you don't want to buy and play games against the mass Xbox Live crowd then continue doing what you are doing and you will be just fine.

gcolley4664d ago

i think you have it wrong. it aint going to happen

here is a massive negative... controller vs. mouse in FPS. this alone would kill the xbox brand as current console players would move over to PS3. i don't want to use m+k on my couch end of story

i am amazed people can't see this. if this is too hard to understand do a bit of research on shadowrun... an experiment that should have never happened if they developers had a clue in the first place.

Legion4664d ago (Edited 4663d ago )

As we know all of this talk is specualtion as we don't know if any of this is being offered in Windows 8.

But as for the controller vs mouse in FPS issue. Simply requiring the use of controller when using Xbox games within windows 8 would seem simple enough to allow level play cross platform. (could software manipulation work around this? Sure but no different then me now owning a mouse, keyboard adapter for my Xbox 360.) The games will not be remodified to play on PC... they will still have aim assist and other options for controllers which deter gamers from using non-controller interface.

Shadowrun for the PC was modified to allow keyboard controlles. (I owned Shadowrun for Xbox 360 and did very well against the PC loyals)

Redgehammer4663d ago

Don't unbderestimate the damage that can be wrought by someone with skill at the helm of a controller. I used to scoff at the idea that any level of parity could exist between the KB/M and a controller, now I know I was in error.

Mikeyy4664d ago

What is the point of this article? I thought it was completely cleared up yesterday that LIVE was being built into Windows 8.

NOT that windows 8 will play Xbox 360 games.

Legion4663d ago (Edited 4663d ago )

Nothing has been cleared up yet. MS has not came out and disclaimed any information given by source leak. So until that happens we will keep getting speculation.

So talk on the goods and bads of the speculation until MS comes out and gives us the skinny on what is actually happening with Windows 8. Which might not be fully until you get Windows 8 in your grip.

Mikeyy4663d ago (Edited 4663d ago )

I see.

One thing scares me though. With LIVE being integrated into the Windows PC platform, does that mean I must be a GOLD member to play future PC games online?

That is the million dollar question.

as I am a PC and PS3 gamer, I don't have a LIVE account.

Legion4663d ago (Edited 4663d ago )

This integration would not effect PC games per say. The possibility will arise that you will be able to pay for a service to use Windows Live games.

But not required to pay anything more for games that are Windows capable.

More of a pay for service fee and not a blanket cost or membership to use any software outside the realm of the service.

So to answer your question... no you will not need to be a GOLD member to play future PC games online.

But if you want to play Xbox related games or games on the marketplace service then yes it is likely a fee charged for that... similar to a Netflix service fee for watching their movies or a game on Steam. If you are to watch a movie or play a game outside of the Netflix or Steam service then obviously no payment will need to be made.

I would speculate what this is really doing is allowing offering of XBLA games and the Indie games from Marketplace to gamers on PC. But the speculation of being able to play actual Xbox 360 disks on the PC is more of a wish then a reality at this point.

dkp234664d ago

Great strategy by ms to boost software as they transition to xbox 720 hardware.

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Gamer buys 4,000 copies of Alan Wake, none of them work

Alan Wake, from Max Payne and Control creator Remedy, is a horror classic, prompting one player to buy 4,000 copies that don’t even work.

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roadkillers3d ago

Kind of a goody story...

On a serious note, that is why I try activating gift cards asap. It's happened to me where the store didnt scan it right where the card was unusuable. Happened at Wally World.

gigoran83d ago

wait, that place is real? national lampoon wasn't kidding?

Tacoboto2d ago

I just bought two of the MonsterVerse Godzilla movies on 4K - both had digital copies expiring in 2023. Both were actually expired.

I'd be surprised but it's WB, of course they'd actually expire them

Knightofelemia3d ago

Usually most of those redemption card have an expiry date on them. If they expired all buyer did was buy recycled paper. And some of those codes are country locked to certain countries. I buy a card from the States I can't use it in Canada.

Chocoburger3d ago

Dumb and silly story. She wasted her money for no reason.

Is it really that hard to go to Steam or GOG. She spent $240, when its currently 70% off on GOG, and only costs $4.49.

Gee, I wonder, should I spend $240 on eBay, or $4.49 on GOG? 🙄

Rynxie3d ago

Most likely she wanted to resell a few or most of them. However, it was a too good to be true situation.

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Profchaos3d ago

So in short she paid $240.00 assuming usd for a bunch on unactivated game codes.

I still don't understand why I guess cause there's not a physical version and she wanted something for a collection or art project.

Rynxie3d ago

No, most likely to resell. However, she ended up getting screwed.

Asplundh3d ago

This is Alan Wake 1, it had physical copies.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1016d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref5d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde5d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19725d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville5d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21834d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos4d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai6d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref5d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan5d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0074d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19725d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref5d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde5d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19725d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier5d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto5d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21834d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto4d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman5d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts5d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts4d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic4d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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L.A. Noire And Bully — Rockstar's Lost Gems That Deserve A Sequel As Much As GTA

Hanzala from eXputer: "I do appreciate GTA 6, Rockstar, but if I could trade it for a new L.A. Noire or a Bully game, I'd do so in a heartbeat."

Skuletor13d ago

How are they lost? You can get L.A. Noire on Steam, PS5, Xbox Series and Nintendo Switch and Bully is on the PS5 and Xbox Series too.

Psychonaut8513d ago

I want a new Manhunt game. But that will never happen.

Demetrius12d ago

Mfs are too sensitive nowadays and would cry instead of being concerned bout real world problems

Demetrius12d ago

Whenever gta 6 launch we won't be getting another rockstar title for another 10 years lol but on the positive side they bou to come back n show how open world supposed to be done 🔥

Skuletor12d ago

I won't expect any singleplayer DLC like IV's The Lost & Damned or The Ballad of Gay Tony after it launches either