DICE Responds To Gamers Disappointed Over PS3 Footage Of Battlefield 3

While most console gamers are more than satisfied with the PS3 footage of Battlefield 3 shown on late night with Jimmy Fallon last night, there are some who say they’re somewhat disappointed in the showing, claiming it’s a downgrade from what we’ve been seeing all along after DICE had promised it’d look the same across all platforms.

Well the developer’s responded to that, making quite clear their intentions.

[Pedantic91]

And even i find those complaints stupid as hell.

Seriously, who in there right mind would ever expect the console version to look better than the PC version ?

[blumatt]

That pretty much explains it. lol And, more than likely, most of the people complaining are the ones that have a $2000+ PC rig that are trying to make themselves feel better by complaining about the PS3 version's graphics. haha I personally thought the footage shown was excellent for console graphics. I'm getting it on PS3 and I'm about to get a new Mac that could play it on very high specs. Why? Because all my friends are on PS3. (And because I prefer a DualShock to a keyboard.)

Also, the graphics isn't the only thing that's been improved. The destruction looks very well implemented and the ability to help out a fallen foe is certainly a welcome addition.

@Fanboi
Well, my statement might have been a bit hyperbolic, but you get what I'm saying. That's still much more expensive than a $300 PS3 console.

[Bolts]

You don't need a $2000 PC gaming rig to make BF3 look better than the PS3. $700 should do it.

[DualConsoleOwner]

The game may still be the best looking multiplatform title.Having said that, i don't think they are fully using the power of the cell.

PS3 exclusives like Killzone 3, God of War 3 and Uncharted 2 looks way better than any multiplat titles out there..

I am beginning to wonder if multiplat devs will ever fully use the power of the cell.

----edit.
whats up with the disagrees??
All i said was game looks great but not as good as existing PS3 exclusives... which is true.

[Montrealien]

at least seven people clearly have no idea what it costs to build a good gaming PC since they disagreed with fanboi, and are mad.. I just did mine for 600$ granted I already had a monitor.

and lol @ saying "using the full power of the cell" in 2011

[theIMP]

@ DualConsoleOwner
I think you're going a little far with the "WAY BETTER" thing. Also what exclusive are you talking about that’s doing half of what BF3 is? I really want to know so I can go buy it tonight. Please don't take this the wrong way. I love every game you just listed, but to compare a game like GOW3 where you can't even move the camera to a game like BF 3 that has that much stuff going on at one time is pretty sill if you ask me. Again I love GOW3, hell and 1, 2, Chains of Olympus, and Ghost of Sparta, but they are not even in the same league as this.

[Montrealien]

To be fair, on the PC, Arma 2 does way more then half of what BF3 does, and it looks pretty damn good. Does that count as an exclusive? since it kinda is.

[Ve_Chuy]

dualshock to a keyboard on a shooter hahahahaha u made my day

[dyennam]

@ Ve-Chuy

Dude he was just telling his opinion on what he prefers.

[B00M]

Montrealien - Yeh agree with what you said on Arma 2. I've tried the demo but its just so glitchy and the controls feel horrible. Graphics arent bad but it is a demanding game.

[pandehz]

Misleading horsecrap.

Make statements with logic and facts. Try not to mix em up with ur version of facts.

2000$? Gimme

[ProjectVulcan]

Looks amazing in the PC shots. Perfectly acceptable on console.

Anyone that thinks consoles in the later stages of their lifespan could stand up to a decent gaming PC needs their heads checking.

PC gamers will have paid more and they will get more when it comes to visuals. That is life and that is how it should be

[Ulf]

People love to exclude the keyboard, mouse, and OS and when they "build a custom gaming rig for under X $$$", or the coffee table you'd need to set up to use those things (in the livingroom) without a monitor and computer desk as well.

It's pretty tiresome to hear PC fanboys go on and on about how cheap a "good" gaming PC is, when its basically BS, unless you plan on scavenging components from an old PC, pirating a copy of Windows ("re-using" it is actually illegal, you know), and already have a decent monitor, desk, speakers, etc., or plan on setting up your living room to have said gaming PC -- which is a huge irritant for most people.

The PS3 version looks great for what it is. I'm not complaining, and I'm not bothering to get it on PC, despite owning a PC which can give my PS3 a performance beatdown.

[DaTruth]

Although a $700 PC is all you need, he said he is getting a MAC; whatever you can get in a PC will cost you a helluva lot more as a MAC!

[ProjectVulcan]

@ Ulf

Probably because a keyboard and mouse are cheap peripherals and you can get them for next to nothing all the way up to uber prices as you choose. As are monitors, when you can use a HDTV same as a console.

PC is a flexible system with many options. Many are obvious and shouldn't need to be explained constantly like i find myself doing to people here who only present one side of an argument. Flexibility is one of the great assets of the system. Table? Stand? You could use a pad or wireless keyboards etc or build a small, discreet, powerful HTPC that fits on a tv stand. Same place where a console might go. Vast options to suit anyone's requirements desiring a gaming PC.

It is tiresome for me too listening to console only gamers forgetting stuff like extra peripherals for their machine, or online subscription renewals or bigger hard drives or games that are always more expensive over the life of their console ownership which would add up to many hundreds of £/$ more than PC versions...

This works both ways. Think. I have owned every major console from every generation since the late 80's and have a nice gaming PC setup. Many people now consider their PC as an essential home item and would not be without one. So i consider it extra value if the PC can also play games besides the other stuff you might always use one for.

People are going to talk about a budget gaming PC which would certainly destroy aging consoles especially when it is in a topic about a special looking PC game such as this. Other people should at least accept that is going to happen instead of launching into a tirade.

[Tank_Commander_E6]

They're disappointed? Did they expect it to look exactly like the PC version? F***ing idiots.

BF3 looks a million times better than MW3. I can't wait to checkout the rest of the game hopefully we'll get new footage soon.

@HSx9

What the f**k are talking about and why do you awesome it's PS3 gamers that are complaining?

[gamingdroid]

When I first saw the footage of BF3 at E3, I was like wow, that some seriously good graphics! Until my friend told me, that is PC!

Well, how the heck am I suppose to know it is PC footage if they don't say it and show it during one of the three's console manufacturers conference?

Maybe that has something to do with it? Maybe the marketing department have been talking sh!t up about new engine, Frostbite 2, and people got their expectations up? Combine that with the footage they have shown?

@Ju below:

So the PS3 is actually more similar to PC, as many games requires an installation. KB/Mouse say hello to controller.

I don't think PC will replace consoles in the near future, but they are more similar than you think.

[xTruthx]

All the people who disagreed with this

"You don't need a $2000 PC gaming rig to make BF3 look better than the PS3. $700 should do it. "

Have probably never build a computer part from part

"Well, how the heck am I suppose to know it is PC footage if they don't say it and show it during one of the three's console manufacturers conference"

It was pretty clear it was running on PC when they showed the guy with a keyboard and mouse right at the beginning

[Tank_Commander_E6]

obviously I meant to write assume instead of awesome. XD

[slayorofgods]

Anyone that believes that it costs 2000 dollars to have a gaming pc is ignorant.

Some of you are sounding ridiculous; PS3 owners on here are acting like the PC gamers are the ones putting down the PS3 version, not true. All they are saying is it doesn't cost 2000 dollars to have a gaming PC. A 700 dollar gaming PC is very realistic, I only paid 500 for my build and it runs most games on very high.

[Elwenil]

I think a lot of people are put off by the whole expensive PC thing. While $2k is a bit much, it's understandable for someone buying a "in the box" PC and not building it from scratch. Personally, while you can build a $700 gaming rig now, it will be damn near useless in a few years so you are probably better off to spend $2k or so to build one so it will be relevant a little longer rather than dump almost a grand every few years. I know my old Pentium 4 rig I'm on now was a compromise when I built it in '05 and now it's next to worthless for new games. I can't hope to run ARMA 3 on it as it barely ran the original ARMA on low settings. I swore my next build would be with the best tech that was available at the time so it would be a little more "future resistant". I'm not talking ridiculous $1k i7 Extreme processors but at least an i7 of some sort and a current generation graphics card and enough RAM to be useful until an upgrade is needed provided the motherboard can handle it. For me, this will require everything new except for the tower case itself, which is a shame since I hate this Ultra POS I have now. My Thermaltake 480w power supply? Useless on a modern rig. My old PATA drives? RAM? 8X AGP graphics card? P4M900 MB? All useless for a modern rig. My monitor is new but my old G15 keyboard and G7 mouse have just about had it so those will need replacing also.

So while you can build a PC for gaming for $700 for some people, you can't logically disagree with other people who say that such a PC will not fit their individual needs. $700 is a drop in the bucket compared to what I will need for my next gaming PC.

[lil Titan]

i thought the game looked decent being that ITS NOT FINISHED YET smh wait until the game releases

[AKS]

Seems like there's a lot of hate being thrown at PC gamers. I game around 50/50 PC and PS3 most of the time (and own a Wii and 360), and I have no problem with the way the PS3 verion looks. I think DICE has done a great jobs making the PC, 360, and PS3 versions of multiplatform games look great.

[Aquanox]

We're in the times of sli/crossfire setups (wih each GPU 4x more powerful than the ones on consoles), CPUs that easily overclock to 4.5Ghz and 8GB of DDR3 Ram now, and BF3 will most likely drain every bit of power of those setups. Why in hell wouldn't it look better than the PS3 version?

[AKS]

@Elwenil

"$700 is a drop in the bucket compared to what I will need for my next gaming PC."

Need or want? You don't NEED to run every game at max. Perhaps you WANT to, so you will spend a lot more than you actually need to?

An overclocked Sandy Bridge i5 ($200) and decent mid to upper mid range card ($200 to $250; here's an XFX 6950 w/ STALKER Pripyat and Dirt 3 for $199 shipped http://www.newegg.com/Produ... ) will play every game on the market at respectable settings, just not always at max with the top end games.

[Deputydon]

@Ulf

Okay, and to get HD graphics from a PS3/Xbox 360 you need an HDTV *SHOCK*. So add that into the price of a console I suppose...

If you build your own PC (which is ridiculously easy anyways) you can get a pretty damn capable PC for pretty cheap. I just bought a new PC mainly because of BF3. I honestly have no clue if it will run the final product at 1080p on very high settings, but I'm positive it'll manage on at least high.

Nvidia GTX 560 Ti
Phenom II x4 955 BE (@3.6, easily OCed from 3.2)
8GBs of Ram
Asus M4N98TD EVO Motherboard

The reason people don't include keyboard and mouse. Do you REALLY need to buy new ones? I've used the same keyboard since CS:CZ came out. That's 7 years on the same crappy $8 crappy basic keyboard. I used a $14 Logitech Click mouse for years, best mouse I've ever used for gaming until it broke, about 6 years after I bought it.

Also, 'reusing' Windows is not illegal unless you have an OEM version. And that's because the OEM version is meant for 'system builders.' Which really means, companies looking to build system and sell them. Such as Dell. The serial number gets attached to that motherboard so it can't be reactivated on another motherboard. A RETAIL copy of Windows is free to reuse as much as you want. You just cannot have it activated on more than one computer at one time. Meaning if your household has multiple computers, in order to 'legally' have windows on each computer, you'd have to buy a copy for each PC.

In most cases you can even use the case from your old PC assuming it's not a Dell and is big enough... same with the HDD. Why would you not reuse hardware if given a chance? If the PS4 comes out and it uses the exact same controller as the PS3 just called 'Dual Shock 4' but the PS3 controller will still work on it, are you going to go out and purchase an extra dualshock 4 just because the name claims it's newer? Well, you might, I sure as hell would be happy using the old one. Just like i'm doing with my keyboard, mouse, HDD, and my RETAIL copy of Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit.

Oh, and for the record, I actually think the PS3 version looks pretty good for a console game. Not to mention I'm mainly a PS3 gamer (350+ hours of Demon's Souls). Yeah.

EDIT: I forgot to mention how much I paid for my new PC excluding all the reused things. I bought a new case as well. An Antec 300 for $60. I also bought a new PSU mainly because I wanted to, my old one was 500 watts which would have worked, but I wanted to make sure it was adaptable for the future (buying another 560 Ti for SLI down the road, which will effectively add another 2-3 years for what will be relatively cheap at that point) So I went with a 650 Watt Antec PSU on sale on Newegg for $65 That makes the total cost of my pc about $625. Excluding my HDD, Monitor (Acer H243H), mouse, and keyboard. More expensive than a console? Yes (the same price as a launch PS3 with tax....)and I get superior looking games.

[Elwenil]

@AKS

Need or want? Well that's sort of the point. I could build a new PC for about $1k to run todays game but, like I said above, I would be back in the same spot I am now in a couple years and have to do it all over again. Keep in mind that I don't overclock my PCs to keep them reliable as I work for a living and can't afford to cut short the life of anything I buy. Also since I am running a 32 bit P4 with XP, I would need a new OS and everything which just ads more to the price. And no, I do not run linux or pirated OS. I use my PC for more than gaming so it has to meet certain reasonable requirements. So is it want or need to have a PC that is relevant for more than a few years? Is it more practical to spend $700-$1k every couple years to update a PC or just spend $2k or more to build one that is good for 5 years or more?

No one can say what fits an individuals needs more than that individual. Sure, a lot of us could get by with less than we "want" but am I not already doing that by getting BF3 for my PS3? I would love to play BF3 with my old squad at Tactical Gamer on PC but $700 or $2k, it's just not in the finances right now. Maybe next year. But either way I disagree with the people saying "all you need is $700 for a gaming PC" since this may apply to someone with a fairly modern gaming rig already that just needs and overhaul or it could be a console gamer with a 10 year old laptop that will need damn near everything. So I would caution people to not criticize others for not agreeing that "all you need is $700".

[mrsatan]

There is no Mac that will play this game at the highest settings. Keep dreaming and get a real gaming PC.

[RedDragan]

You can build a gaming PC for $700, but it would not be anywhere near as good as a gaming PC that costs $2000.

But that is by the by, the thing that matters most is what you want and what you are willing to put up with.

If that means a $300 PS3, $700 gaming PC or a top of the range $2000... so be it. The magic of this world is it is all your choice and nobody can stop you.

[ProjectVulcan]

Updating a PC inside a console generation for games is not always needed, it is a choice if your machine is already faster i believe. Once its faster, its always faster than that generation...

This caught my eye from Elwenil : "Is it more practical to spend $700-$1k every couple years to update a PC or just spend $2k or more to build one that is good for 5 years or more?"

I think it is entirely more practical to spend less and update more often. Let me get this clear, i don't believe it NECESSARY, its just choice.

However, because of the speed of the technology you could spend a fortune on a machine, get all top end gear, and then within 2-3 years at very most, cheap lower/midrange hardware is far faster.

I feel it is far wiser to buy smart, buy components that are the best balance of performance and cost with the most chance of a long lifespan. Then upgrade gradually selling older parts to subsidise, and retain parts that can outlast main processors like cases and power supplies etc.

If you spend a lot of money you might find yourself with a machine dated far faster than you had hoped and parts worth far less to sell and replace with newer. This is why $700-1k every couple of years makes more sense to me than $2k every 5 years. You will almost certainly have a much better system more of the time this way.

If you had spent $2k 5 years ago you would have a Core 2 duo and a X1900XTX and still have it. If you had split it over time and spent less you would have had a slower machine then yes, but also now probably upgraded to an i5 750 and say a Radeon 4870. A far better machine.

[orakga]

You don't need to "do it all over again". That argument is so flawed.

You can build a $700-1,000 system today, enjoy it for a couple of years, then spend $500 or so in the second year to extend its life for another 12-18 months. I've done that pretty much all since 2000 (before then, yes, you sorta had to "do it all over again" due to technology standards changing too fast).

Plus, don't forget that this is your PC. It's not like you own a PC for browsing, then another PC just for gaming. Everybody owns a $500+ desktop already, so you're really only adding a $100-200/year premium on top of your existing PC to make it "gaming capable".

Like others have been saying, people who use these hyperboles have no idea how PC gaming actually works.

I own two PS3s and 360s as well, so please don't go branding me as a PC fanboy. I just don't want facts being skewed unfairly in this discussion.

[pixelsword]

It's a multiplat, which won't look as good as an exclusive anyways, so the fact that it looks good in and of itself ought to be enough.

[DatNJDom81]

I'm pretty sure that the "fanboys" that are complaining are most likely the xbox camp from this site. LOL. See I can start something on the interwebz too. Hooray for me getting recognized online!

[awi5951]

@gamingdroid

Well when i saw the graphics its a dead give away. Did you really think a console could make graphics that crisp and clear with that draw distance. When i first saw it i knew it was pc i dont see how you would get confused. Maybe because you never had a good gaming pc maybe.

[ChrisW]

Everyone knows that it's impossible to get the exact same graphics across all platforms.

And IMO, it looks damn awesome on the PS3 considering that it's running at an equivalent to a nVidia 7800GTX. That is technically 4 generations behind the newest graphics card.

If they can do that good of a job with the PS3, then they did a DAMN good job!!!

[ht2112]

I can play PC games with a Dualshock 3 controller.
Or a Xbox 360 controller.
Or a Mouse and Keyboard.
While sitting on the couch playing on a 60' Plasma @ 1920*1080 because my computer can hook up to a TV.
Shocking! Right?
(I also own a PS3 and an Xbox 360)

[badz149]

most of those complaining are PC fanboys! they really feel the need to emphasize that the PC is more powerful which is common sense anyway! BF3 looks good on PS3. not PC good but still good regardless! stop whining bitches!!

[ChrisW]

ht2112,

Unfortunately younger gamers more than likely still live their parents probably aren't allowed to hook their computer up to their TV... that is, if their parents have a TV capable of hooking a computer up to.

[I_find_it_funny]

they lack common sense

[The_Claw]

Pre-Alpha build confirmed.

[narked]

still, it's like having a fiat and expecting it to drive like a ferrari

[gedapeleda]

They should downgrade graphics on consoles,and allow more players and bigger maps,cuz I dont give a $%!^ how those graphics look bc1 visuals would be good enough.

[godslayer429]

a dumbass

[S_C]

The game Looks really good for console but did anyone eles notice line on the screen when the player moves and when he run through the door way ?

[The_Claw]

you probably saw a bad video. some guy was promoting a 1080p video when in reality it was 720p upscaled and looked like crap. try watching it in 720p

[S_C]

cheers mate, shall do now :D

[ILikeTurtles]

"I'm a ps3 fanboy"
I stoped reading right there xD

[Petro]

Why did you stop reading there? Wouldn't we who own and love our PlayStation 3's be the most disappointed if game for our system looked bad? And it obviously doesn't look bad at all.

[Mr Patriot]

Im disappointed son :(

[Jocosta]

It is because Ps3 fanboys still think that the Ps3 is somehow just as powerful if not more than a good gaming rig.

[Petro]

No we don't. Also stop generalising like we all are single minded. Usually when we talk about games and graphics we are comparing them to other games of the same platform or to other console games. Cause its obvious that PC can do better graphics.

[HSx9]

Im laughing at the fact that these PS3 Fanboys are admitting their fanboyism with Gaming machines

[Clarence]

We all don't think like that. Pc shooters are suffering. Why do you think the top Pc shooters are coming to consoles. The market for shooters is stronger on consoles right now. I bet your pc friends already have consoles.

Go cop a PS3 or 360 so you don't have to play online by yourself.

[PRHB HYBRiiD]

it looked awesome...*goes to gamestop to finish payment*

[Statix]

The people who are disappointed by or lambasting the footage of Battlefield 3 on PS3 are either:

a) MW3 fanboys looking to bash BF3
b) PC fanboys looking to bash the console version of BF3
c) Mentally retarded

[DaTruth]

d)all of the above.

[Ser]

I agree with all of the options aside from "c."

The difference in quality is there, but it's not so drastically different to the point where I would consider getting BF3 for my PC instead.

[FFXI101]

PC's vision(BF3) is looking better no doubt.

But there is no need to bash the console vision or console gamers, lot of us prefer to play on the consoles because most of our friens do.

Just be glad we have a nice, decent game to play.

[Ju]

Oh, I think it looks awesome on the PS3. Well, and of course it would be a big disappointment if a SLI PC wouldn't beat the shit out of it. Who knew.

And yet, for me it looks good enough to say "PC who?".

[Kaneda]

The smoke could have look a little better..

Before the car got hit by rocketpropeller..the smoke looks weird.. but they are still working on it.. :)

sorry, for complaining..

[frostypants]

The problem is DICE's own PR people basically implied that the console version would practically be the same, as if they were going to pull off some sort of miracle. They then allowed this delusion to grow by only releasing precious few console screenshots, and sandbagging gameplay video from the consoles while they showed everyone the PC stuff at E3.

Yes, it's ridiculous to actually believe that the console version would match the PC, but at the same time, DICE (and other devs) needs to stop mincing words in their cheerleading sessions and interviews and just speak the TRUTH about these things up front. Otherwise, this is what happens: people who feel they were duped get whiney about it. I promise you their PR people did all this intentionally to drive interest in the game...for DICE to now act like they're surprised that people feel misled is a bit hypocritical and insincere.

If they would just say "the PC version will look better and there's nothing we can do about that" up front, it would shut these people up.

Anyway, that PS3 gameplay still looked FREAKING GOOD, aside from maybe the smoke effects. What do people want?! For 6 year old hardware it looked pretty epic to me.

[squidyj]

“Our philosophy is to not to talk about things we cannot prove and this is true also when it comes to the quality of the Xbox 360 version of the game. All of the core game systems (animation, destruction, rendering, audio etc.) are the same on all platforms so there will not be a difference when it comes to the general experience of the game. Some technicalities will of course be different due to larger memory and the graphics cards you can have on the PC. We are trying to push the envelope of FPS games in general and this will be obvious in all versions of the game. Looking back to what quality we achieved with Battlefield Bad Company 2 last year we do know how to make high quality games on all platforms.”

This is what you're talking about. It doesn't say games are going to look the same, it's saying all the core systems are in all the platforms so you're going to get the same basic experience on all platforms. It does not mean that consoles are going to look the same as the PC version. Anyonw who pulled that out of this quote was deluding himself from the start.

[frostypants]

That's the kind of thing I mean, yes. But that's hardly the only statement they made. In any event, my point was that yes, anyone who assumed the PC version wouldn't look better was deluded, BUT DICE was not as direct as they could have been. Look at the statement you refer to...it took them a full paragraph to say what they could have said in one concise sentence: "the PC version will look better." Then, the decision to show everyone the PC version at E3 but sit on the console. Again, it's PR stuff and it's intentional. They know what they did.

In summary, yes the gamers in question were delusional. But DICE marketing/PR did everything they could to exploit it.

The funny thing is the console version looks impressive enough that just about everyone would have been happy anyway if DICE had just managed expectations better (or rather, not implicitly exploited them).

[Rainstorm81]

Frosty, dude, they are in business to sell games...

They couldntve alienated all console gamers by riding the pc, the console fps market isnt small. Besides the way Dice put it is more professional than just sating "the pc version will look better"

As squidy said anyone that took out of that statement that they will all be equal was kidding themselves from the beginning..

Reading is fundemental....

[squidyj]

I'd challenge you to find these other statements in that case.

[hiredhelp]

Im concerned that more of this goes on by a silly select few ppl. Ea wont make for ps3 instead start doing ports. Please for thoes who are trying to ruin things for the rest of us stop it.

You cant get blood from a stone witch means you moan not like pc go buy a pc what do you expect.
Myself i think dont bloody amazing job.

Oh last thing if this is a stunt to knock the game to give mw3 more sales , its not working for me. Ill be buying on pc and ps3,

[StbI990]

U mean, EA are a bunch of mofos who gives attention to every f fags complaining out there?

Don't blame the fanboys, they are just a bunch of blind spot on a already blind field, EA should take there opinions from other kind of you know, fanatics, those with constructive opinion, and not destructive like most fanfags around.

[GarandShooter]

The only thing that will shape EA's PS3 development plans is sales of their games on the PS3, not unrealistic complaints from losers on the internet.

[MsButterbean]

I'm not sure what the issue is, because the PS3 version looks incredible.

PS: Isn't it amazing that no one even mentions the xbox 360 version of the game? Which must mean, PC version > PS3 version >>> Xbox 360 version.

[jetlian]

360 fans are more realistic! they not trying to beat everything on the market.

[SSKILLZ]

No one cares about the 360 version it probably looks 16 bit

[MysticStrummer]

@jetlian - Would those be the same realistic 360 fans that think Crysis 2 on consoles looks better than either Killzone 2 or Killzone 3?

[jetlian]

its the ones that know crysis 2 looks better than kz2/3

[showtimefolks]

BF3 on pc is suppose to look better that's the point of having a pc that can run awesome games.

but whoever says it doesn't look good on consoles is blind

so keep up the great work dice looking forward to BF3

[Jack-Dangerously]

I don't think ANYONE expected it to look BETTER than the pc version. That is absolutely crazy man.

OT: Maybe the reason they expected it to look "the same" is because DICE was running their mouth about how their goal is to "make it the same across all platforms" ect ect.(hopefully that didn't come off as rude, as I am a huge DICE fan)

The more I watch it the more I like it. But my expectations were WAY too high from the get-go(though I wasn't expecting pc quality).

But after reality has sunk it, I can honestly say now that I am MORE than satisfied.

:)

[finbars75]

I agree 100% I didn't expect it to look as good as the pc.To be honest with you I knew it was pre alpha build but even for that the game still looks awsome and I loved the destruction i'n it very detailed.This game is still going to be a beast of a game from what I have seen so far.I can't wait unti Oct.25.So instead of complaining about it just give it until release date to decide on the graphics I'm sure it will look awsome but it's the gameplay that counts to me for this franchise.

[slayorofgods]

@Elwenil

PC's don't need to be replaced every year. If you absolutely need the most cutting edge pc or a mac then you will be spending a lot of money. But for gaming purposes a 3 core processor is the magical number. So a AMD quad core for about 150 - 200 bucks will last you a long time. Personally I think the i7's are overkill. Additionally, graphics cards can be upgraded separately, and in all honesty you shouldn't need to upgrade them every time a new graphics card comes out. You'd be fine upgrading every 5 years or more and keeping up with current games. I have a amd 5770 ( a 130 dollar card) and I'm keeping it until the ps4 and new x box comes out. Previously my pentium 4 processor lasted about 7 years, the life-cycle of a console.

My build
amd x3 (unlocked 4th core and catch, it becomes a powerful phenom processor for 90 bucks)
gigabyte motherboard (70 bucks, make sure you have sata3 support)
4 gigs ram (dirt cheap right now 40 bucks)
Radeon 5770 graphics card (130 buck)
tarabyte hard drive (dirt cheap now 60 buck)
reused old case (free)
750 watt power (never skimp on this, 80 bucks)

[JsonHenry]

I thought it looked damned good for a console port.

[awi5951]

Ps3 fanboys man what can i say. Consoles are old tech sorry thats what happens when you go over 5 years in the market.

[likedamaster]

A PS3 gamer disappointed? What's new.

[trancefreak]

I thought this looked fantastic really why so many complaints. Choose your weapon and play the game!

Definitely getting me a pc copy and the kids a ps3 copy. I know they will love while I ban them from being another cod game.

My 13 is already begging for the new blops map pack go figuire.

[makingdamage]

Yeah, I totally agree pedrami91!
What worries me though is the fact that Dice wants to create a battlefield with only 24 players! We´ve already seen that it didnt work in BC1 & 2 and now they want to repeat the same missatake!?

I´m not saying those games are bad, just that they dont give the player a sense of being involved in a battlefield and thats what the title of the game communicates.

[KRATOS-PS3]

you can't compare the RSX exactly to the GF 7800GTX. Actually, the RSX is faster.

http://news.teamxbox.com/xb...

[Nate-Dog]

Anyone complaining is deluded because it looks pretty boss to me and it's still not the finished article yet. Nice work DICE.

[dangert12]

Games critics are just getting stupider every minute.
I mean beta's get reviewed O_o

and then they asses the game on the beta and say the games crap.Instead of...

'this level meh and i don't like how the perks work'

where they should be saying it has potential i will get the game if they fix this, they say...' nah the games shit' but to be honest with you all the lastest beta's for games did't need beta's as player feed back has been ignored.

for example.

Killzone 3
Finally Fantasy 14? (that mmo from last yr)
Socom 4

I mean if there just going to ignore us straight do what CoD do and run no beta's tell us its internal.

[Nicaragua]

In all fairness KZ3 and SOCOM 4 were both released in a pretty sorry state so the critics points were justified - SOCOM still dosnt even have a party system which is pretty ridiculous for a game focused on its online multiplayer.

[Ulf]

You realize that changes and patches take like 2 months to get through the quality assurance pipeline, and to hit PSN, right?

Have you even bothered to download the latest patch for SOCOM 4? You know, the one that would have been the first actual response to beta feedback?

Understanding how these things work is critical to posing a valid complaint about them.

[frostypants]

All the more reason not to release a game in an unfinished state.

[dangert12]

@Ulf
Such an aggressive response :p
I don't care how long they take to get patches to playstation network IMO
killzone 3 should not have released when it did
because it was broken if you think it is acceptable to say yes pay £40 and these 'fixes may come' then hey ho thats you. but i like something better rounded off say like uncharted 2 online

[Ju]

What are you going on about? Neither KZ3 nor Socom4 were broken at launch. Not like some other games which actually crash or would not connect. Stop comparing the two to those beta releases from some other developers. Both got tuned, like they usually do because more people get their hands on and the devs get more feedback. And no, a beta will never be a full representation on how the game is received at launch. All it can do is to make sure it is free of technical faults (as much as possible). I played Socom4 and KZ3 at launch, so do even think about telling me what worked or what didn't.

[Ulf]

Anyone who believes KZ3 and SOCOM 4 were "unfinished" at launch have, obviously, never played them. They were both extremely polished at launch -- I know, because I *did* play them at launch. The patches are simply responses to user feedback.

How anyone can complain about that is beyond me. The spoiled gamer is really a remarkable animal. You guys must be like 15 years old, or somehow have gone through life completely ignorant of the amount of human effort it takes to put large media projects, like games and movies, together. There's a good reason most game developers are < 35 years old you know... most of them quit by then, and move on to an easier job, which pays better.

I get a laugh every time someone whines about how their game design choices would be better for all the world, and how they could have made such-and-such game by burning a digital image into a disc with a magnifying glass and a cigarette in their backyard.

[dangert12]

-joining game lobbies 8 vs 2?

-bullet hit detection(dying in split 2nds)

-badges not showing up allowing stop you from using perks

-respawning into tree's you have to kill yourself to get out

-aweful map rotation when perefed is selected

greazy91

search me on the kz forums played 23hrs of it then sold it if you think up above is hw games should be released, you need to check yourself out

[Ninver]

wow are you serious? why respond. Frankly all gamers should know by now multiplats are best played on PC. PS3 shines in exclusives and the 360...well let's just say M$ is happy with their sales.

If you were expecting Uncharted 3 like graphics well then you just got trolled lol.

[pandehz]

Agreed.

I own a gaming pc and an xbox, Unfortunately just a psp from sony side.

Whenever theres a multiplat i buy the pc version.

Various reasons for this behaviour, i dont need to explain coz pc owners know what im talking about.

[superrey19]

Same here, except I have a PC + ps3 combo.

[MasterCornholio]

Whats stupid is that there are people who believe it will look the same as the PC version. The PS3s hardware is 5 years old so its normal that a modern day PC will be able to produce better visuals than it. What you should be happy about is that the PS3s version will look good and play with a solid framerate. Unlike crysis which was in sub HD and had a terrible framerate on consoles.

[Kleptic]

I'm disappointed with what they showed, but not because it didn't look good...but because they barely showed anything...

This is the game that is going to bring the console vs. PC bs to an all time high for the generation...with what they showed, there is barely a discernible difference...period...the lighting looks similar, the level geometry (at least from this off screen footage) is identical, the animation was the same...etc...the particle effects where definitely lacking (the burning car looked ridiculous at one point), but that is obviously an issue of an unfinished product...

that is not to say the consoles will be the same or even close to the full blown PC version...its just they didn't show anything to really prove what the consoles can or can't do...I was hoping to see the bridge section under the helicopter...as there is way more stuff going on in that scene, and if anything of whats been shown of the game so far, that is the area that most people want to see how the consoles hold up...

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

SMH

I was pretty impressed by the grafx. They used the cell splendidly. As long as it's not subhd with a poor framerate and pop ins I'm good. Ppl shouldnt Cry over this tek.

[Statix]

Lol @ "Cry over this tek."

[BubbleSniper]

i was crying over Crytek not having DX11 ready for Crysis 2

[ZombieAssassin]

WTF I thought it looked as good as Crysis 2 console version but cleaner.

[andron]

Yeah. Crysis 2 looked good on console, but had very variable frame rate. I expect BF3 console versions to have a much smoother frame rate if previous console BF games are any indication.

It doesn't matter how great a game looks, if there is massive screen tearing or great drops in the frame rate that's going to impact gameplay...

[Inside_out]

.
What Crysis game did you 2 play...lol.

Crysis 2 showed the world that the consoles have a long way to go. Here's some 360 footage to remind the fanboys whats up...

http://youtu.be/kF67XFXq_ys

Destruction is beautiful...especially with Crytek...

http://youtu.be/mW8bMnkZozQ

I've been waiting for the console footage from Dice and I don't think that was it. I think that was the PC in " console " mode...lol. I'll wait for someone to break down the footage in terms of frame rate and resolution.

[ZombieAssassin]

LOL @inside_out calling people fanboys.

Yea Crysis 2 looked good but like andron666 said it's frame-rate was all over and had some screen-tearing, not to mention I'm sure the levels where smaller, gameplay was pretty bland too.

[gcolley]

another day, another bunch of whinging gamers

[PS360PCROCKS]

Hahaha wow. Some people's kids I swear. Perfect response from Dice, if your not smart enough to understand the PS3 is less powerful than modern PC's you deserve an answer that makes you feel stupid.

The footage looks great but come on PC's are and always will be more powerful than consoles.

Also sweet jesus the next person who utters "Ya on a $2000 PC" can you please leave your address so I can come smack the shit out of you one by one? PC's are NOT expensive, enthusiasts make them expensive. A system that maxes BF3 with a GTX 580 would run you about $8-900

[DoomeDx]

and about $500 if you want to play with some settings on HIGH, which will already be better then the console versions.
So indeed, not expansive.
Even though i have an $1000 PC, ill buy it for PS3. Laying down on the couch while playing with my friends through PSN is a must for me

[BlackKnight]

But I play my PC on my couch and HDTV too...Wireless mouse and keyboard FTW.

If there is any multiplat game to get on PC, it's BF3 man!

[LOOK_AT_THIS_I]

You cant get sweet graphics without a $2,000 gaming rig

Ill be waiting for you, heres my address :)
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington, DC 20500

[PS360PCROCKS]

I had to read that address a few times lol good one

[LOOK_AT_THIS_I]

lol...i tried to get someone to do us all a favor :)

[BeastlyRig]

If you keep watching pc footage then watch ps3 footage it brings expectations very high!

I think this one of those situations where pc gamers pay more & should get more! Makses sense to me anyway..

on ps3 it looks better than anything else on consoles!

[sourav93]

Better than anything on consoles? hmmm....

[DoomeDx]

It doesnt beat exclusive games like Killzone 3 and uncharted, BUT lets not forget that BF3 has alot of destructible enviroments which is a resource hog already, and it already looks better then Crysis 2 anyways

[MARKUS_MAX1MUS]

@DoomeDx

With dynamic lighting, dynamic environmental destruction, Animation, textures, realisim it looks way better than anything on console so far.

[sourav93]

I'm not saying it isn't better than anything on consoles. It's just that we've only seen a pre-alpha demo. I want to see how the whole game plays out, with all the destruction and everything, and if it still maintains the framerate without loss of visual quality, then we're talking. I won't make any judgments like Beastly before I play the full game.

[orange-skittle]

@ DoomeDx
Killzone 3 did not look THAT great. It looked really good, but not to the level you're praising it on. Halo, MW, and BF games are still beating it online because it's just what it is. There's nothing there that says I GOTTA PLAY THIS EVERY DAY. The fact that the terrain in BF changes in every game is a factor. When the environment changes, the strategy changes. When the window or bush you hid behind to snipe is no longer there...now what? When you go up against a team of guys that can fly the hell out of those copters or planes as opposed to guys that can flank you with humvees and tanks, you change the battle plan. It keeps you on your toes. Defenders Leveling the terrain to get a better visual of the enemy is also a problem you have to deal with when attacking.

[pandehz]

Yep the ps3 footage for BF3 is so immersive. More than any static PS3 game.

Not played too many PS3 games, as I mostly play them on my friends place. But yea considering uncharted, gow and killzone2/3, this makes these others look so static and game-like.

[Bonobo12345]

Watching this?????
This video does no justice to the game itself.
also from this video Uncharted definitely looks more visually accomplished..
But I'll wait till October to finalize this judgement (bear in mind I am talking about the ps3 version only..)

[Statix]

I'll give Battlefield props for the destructibility, but I still think that there are a few PS3 exclusives that look better and more impressive overall. Killzone 3 and Uncharted 2 just have more shader effects and visual fidelity overall, such as per-pixel motion blur, parallax mapping, high-quality shadow filtering, and much sharper and crisper textures. All these things are missing in BF3 (at least on the PS3 version).

Also, KZ3 has a lot of destructibility as well; just perhaps not quite to the level of Battlefield 3.

[squidyj]

You have to recognize this is pre alpha footage, I think they're still working on getting things working on console. There isn't any form of dynamic AO from what I've seen either

[orange-skittle]

KZ3 DOES NOT have a lot of destructibility. The only close to this destructibility is BFBC2 and they made that too. Just because a crate or piece of a wall breaks off, doesnt mean squat. BF games put holes in walls to walk through. It levels structures and foliage. KZ3 does not do this. KZ3 scale is also small in comparison to BF maps. They put this type of action on a large scale compared to a box. People are mentioning GoW with it's linear focus and fix camera compared to a free flowing all out war game.

[vandal GAB]

And what was the pc version?

[Tapioca Cold]

Morons! Of course the PS3 footage will be inferior. man, people gotta control the hype machine. Good Lord!

[Soldierone]

I was expecting it to not look "as good" as the PC version, but I wasn't expecting it to look that noticeably different. Alot of the textures changed, and to me it seems the depth of field is different. I dont know.

There is just something there that I can't put my finger on that is bugging me. Either way it still looks good, a lot better than a majority of other shooters, but I dont know if it even surpasses Medal of Honor right there...

[solar]

and the cry baby generation continues....

[Fishy Fingers]

Hmm... Who expected ageing console hardware to compete with bleeding edge PC hardware? That's almost as stupid as the people who think a decent PC costs £4000.

[qwertyz]

ps3 fanbiys really think teh cell can compete with high end pcs LOL ignorance is destruction. by the way you can build a high end pc for 900 like mine and I'm packing 4gb ram, i5 2500k and a gtx 570 superclock so high end pcs don't cost $2000. yes my pc does cost 900 which is 3 times as much as a ps4 but its also at least 30 times more powerful so I'd say the difference is worth it

[Netic]

I have a Core i5 750 OC to 3.6ghz, 8gb of ram and a Gtx470 and run everything maxed out in 1080p

It cost me 850$ without the LCD and mouse keyboard back in early 2010.

[qwertyz]

built this new one like a month ago.its amazing how some people actually think their ps3 can match pc. even a $300 pc today will destroy the ps3. As of 2006, pcs where more powerful than ps3 so the ps3 was basically outdated in the hardware department when it launched lol. i know not all ps3 fanboys are ignorant but the ignorance some of them display is astonishing.

[pixelsword]

@qwertyz

That's not entirely correct, unless you can give me side-by-side footage of a racing game that blows-away GT5, which was said by (a website that only reviews racing games) that GT5 is better looking than any game they've seen on consoles or PC.

... but don't take my words for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

It's about 33:30 into the video if I'm not mistaken.

If you disagree, please, make me eat my words with a side-by-side comparison; I've asked this for months with no proper response. I know I won't get one, because everyone's been trying to do a comparison since any media came out on the game, but I like to give the people who hit the disagree button something to think about, as they know the only thing they can do in terms of a retaliation is hit the button without revealing whom they are because they already know it is not possible rather than reveal how wrong they would be to even attempt to try.

[pixelsword]

lol 2 days later and no response.

Just like I said.

LOL

[matey]

ill wait 4 WiiU version 1080p and better frame rates and graphics even with minimum spec custom HD4890 thats rumoured in japenese mag would mean High Settings on WiiU but AMD have said in not so many words there best graphics tech is going in WiiU check Toms Guide google it.

[RugbyGod]

Showing Pre-Alpha builds with 4 months before gold.....hmmm, color me unimpressed. I weep for the 360 version.

[nitrogav]

Can't wait to see the PS Vita footage next . It might even be a bit better than the PS3 version !! . Thought the PS3 looked good anyway . Just think cross platform playing between the two Sony consoles !! .

[NYC_Gamer]

they are doing their best with the hardware infront of them

[spektical]

they are doing their best with their knowledge of the hardware infront of them.

*fixed. first party exclusives still run circles around everyone else in getting amazing effects/gameplay/etc.

[Emilio_Estevez]

Thought it looked pretty good. There is a 1080p vid on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Legionaire2005]

Looks great to me and this is just alpha build. Looks almost identical to the PC Version, not too much different.

[Olvipoika]

jimmy fallon show ( bt3:ps3 build is pre-alpha ) btw

[CrazyRap]

We are satisfied.
-End of statement

[Convas]

Honestly folks, EA is to blame a bit for this. They advertised the PC version of Battlefield 3 on live Television. So if the average consumer had no idea that that was PC footage (Even though it had the words at the bottom "Pre-Aplha PC footage".

[Phantasm]

I've been one that's been bitching about no console footage. Well, I watched the HD footage on You Tube, and thought it looked very nice... I can't complain.

I think Dice/EA should be a little concerned about getting the the 360 version done right as well. A lot of shooter fans over with the Xbox brand.

[Zontar]

Everyone I know on 360 plays at least a couple of shooters. I think it will look really good on 360, for what it has left in it, but i trust dice.

[BLAKHOODe]

5 seconds after firing this game up on the PS3 this October nobody is going to care that the PC version might have better graphics. The game LOOKS amazing! If graphics being a smudge better on PC bothers you THAT much.. then buy the PC version of the game and shut up!

[Ve_Chuy]

High end Pcs always has had better graphics than ps3 even in 2006 when ps3 was new.

[Venjense]

Anyone expecting the console version to match the PC is lving in a dream world. That being said, B3 is looking to be one of the best looking console shooters especially when up consider destructible environments.

I was very please with what I saw; it looks a lot better than BFBC2.

[Ninjamonkey82]

Some people really need to pull there heads outta there arses that is a great version of the game for console. I was expecting less than this tbh.

The pc version was always gonna win out console just does not have the tech to keep up.

Thats why i have a gaming pc aswell so i can have best of both worlds. But on viewing this ill be getting this game for both my PC and PS3 now without fail.

The game looks fantastic on both. Im pretty sure the xbox will come up with a A grade version aswell that will match the ps3 version. Why did people expect what they saw at E3 on pc to be what they where going get on console?.

[Ve_Chuy]

@ dyennam I own ps3, xbox360 and pc it is impossible u prefer console controllers than pc keyboard and mouse to play fps, have u tried shooter in pc??

[PhantomT1412]

It might not be as accurate, but controller is more confortable (in my case at least, and you can play on the couch) and immersive (between clicking on a mouse and pulling the trigger, the latter is obviously closer to the action you do in the game) so at least for Single Payer where it's more about immersion than competition, the controller is better. And it's not like FPS with controllers are unplayable. Sometimes, when I'm tired, I play Black Ops multiplayer on PC with a controller, and I can get some pretty score.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I never thought the console were going to look at good as the PC version. I am pretty realistic about that and I think most gamers are too.

I do however take DICE to task for the comments they made saying "it would look the same" across all platforms. Umm...no it wont. It will have a similar look and feel for sure...but no way will it look the same. DICE threw that out trying to PR spin the fact that they are making PC the primary build and the PS3 / 360 versions will ultimately be ports of the PC build. Dice was just trying to toe the line way too much on this.

Its still going to be a great game, and I still want it on my 360 where I play my multiplayer so I guess at the end its not a huge issue.

[ILikeTurtles]

Bwahahaha xD
they thought that the console versions would be on par with the pc version? LOL

[spektical]

this is a wonderful ps3 version. its not botched like other multiplayer titles that favor the 360.

[Darkfiber]

Wow, a state of the art PC can run games that look better than a 5 year old console...really, are people that ignorant?

[Jack-Dangerously]

No, but YOU are. Never a nice thing to say huh?

OT: I think people(me included) were just expecting way too much. After watching the footage more and more you see that it really is great looking.

[TitanUp]

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898.26

i didn't put the links cause i just had the part names down in notepad for a friend. this will play battlefield bad company 2 average 40 frames maybe more dx11 4xaa 16xaf

[ATiElite]

I would never put my OS on a 1TB HDD plus I would never by Seagate. maybe suggest a 500GB Western Digital.

1TB HDD slow down your OS Plus is that Seagate 5400rpm? that would make it even slower.

nice build

[ATiElite]

Does BF3 console look better than Call of Duty?

Yes! So why are people complaining?

Most consolers have NEVER played Battlefield 2 and are basing their opinions of the Battlefield series from playing Bad Company 2 which is NOT the same as Battlefield.

The PS3 footage looked great to me and way better than COD but I guess Flaimbait articles are a cheap way to get hits and some people just rather complain than use common sense.

Battlefield since 1942!

[Silly gameAr]

I thought it looked pretty damn good myself. I didn't expect it to match the PC, but I say Dice did a pretty good job for the little gameplay that was shown. Some people just need to get over themselves.

[a_bro]

Really? complaining about a game that was built on PC? seriously fanboys STFU. be happy it looks almost as good as the PC version....

[ATiElite]

I agree Bro!

Some of these Consolers are just way too stupid to comprehend anything. I hate to say it but it's true. For what ever reason some just don't understand that BF3 was built specifically for the PC using DX10/DX11.

Their $300 dream machines can only do DX9 and minus the RAW POWER that the PC has. DICE has done a fine job and to be honest DICE still has more features and eye candy that they can add to the PC version like Tessellation that consoles are incapable of doing.

BF3 looks great on the PC and PS3 which we should all thank DICE for their good work instead of complaining about stupid shite!

[Netic]

So yea if your a not happy Go buy a PC and if you are too young without a job and don't have enough money well GREAT I won't see you on PC servers and chances are that you will be playing MW3 ehhehe

[LeoDDestroyer]

Never though that the ps3 version would look like the pc but it looks pretty good. I say better that bf:bc2. I just wish they would have used the same gun sights b/c the red dot cover up too much of what your looking at.

[darksied]

And what exactly do the whiners want them to do about it this time? It's one thing for some people to complain like little girls and they change their minds and release the physical warfare pack for free to everyone. I wish they hadn't, to be honest; just to see these whiners NOT get their way.

But what do you expect them to do this time? Hit a switch and say "sorry, that should fix it?" and magically make the ps3 version as good as the pc? People need to stfu and realize that the consoles will never look as good as the PC. That's a fact, not an opinion. When you have a developer who knows what they're doing, you 'll get a great looking PC version, and good looking console versions. That what we have here.

[OpiZA]

Lol. Shame. Delusion at it's finest

[Graphics]

I must be blind or you people have very very low standards. First of all how can they compare the ps3 pics to pc when the ps3 pics are very low res and blurry, and second how can you people say that the ps3 version look good from the quality of those pics?

[retrofly]

Dice never said it would look the same accross all platforms, of course the PC version is better it can have so much more power than a PS3.

[Tzuno]

Now some Sony fan-boys prove that are really stupid. What is so hard to understand PS3 doesn't support DX11 to start with, and are a plenty of motives to go on use your head people.

[death2smoochie]

For all that is holy.
Why on earth would "some" people think the PS3 version would come close to the PC version?

[DanSolo]

I don't see how anyone can complain..... if you expected it to look like a top end PC's graphics then you are an idiot so go away and blame yourself and come back to us when you have grown some hair on your sack....

The truth is it looks good for a console... it is a big improvement over BF:BC2 and that is all that matters!

I still play BF:BC2 all the time and it looks fine to me, starting to look a little dated but I don't notice it really... so an upgrade from that is all that I expect... so I am happy with that!

[Raven_Nomad]

I don't think it looked bad, but I don't think it was the ultimate end all to FPS games or anything. It actually reminded me of a cross between Medal Of Honor from last year and BFBC2. Which I guess is fine for some people.

It's just becoming more and more evident that this isn't going to be a game for me personally.

[thespaz]

If BF3 has any screen tearing on PS3 when it's released, I won't buy the game.

If you don't know what screen tearing is, don't comment on it.

I hope DICE do what they say and polish it like crazy cause the way it looks right now, is not something I would play.

[ChickenOfTheCaveMan]

I don't know, looks good to me..

[Sarobi]

I seen no problems with how the game looked, there is limitations between consoles and PC gaming, everyone should of understood that a tad bit more.

[T3MPL3TON]

Waaaaaaaa my Ps3 version doesn't have the same graphics as the PC version.. IT CAN'T! THE PC IS MORE POWERFUL! The game looks fantastic on each console. Stop being a bunch of whinny bitches.

[carajito]

I used to be a PC gamer exclusively. But after the original Xbox came out and "promised": Voice Chat, Closed Environment, Cheaterless Multiplayer, comparable graphics, Friends List etc etc.
I have not looked back ever since. Sure I could build a good gaming PC and have the best of both words. But I don't want to deal with the constant hacking the "punk buster" (if that even exists today), the crashes, the video card compatibility, the constant driver updates, over zealus server admins etc. I am too old to be dealing with all that crap.
Before you say it, I know there are cheaters on consoles as well, but they are few and far between.

[BlackSharinganX]

i have a ps3 i thought it was really great image wtf

[yamzilla]

Besides a bit of screen tearing and jaggies on some of the fine lines, i thought it looked freaking incredible for a platform that has 6 year old hardware in it, DICE are freaking wizards!

“Why would anyone expect that console would look the same as PC?” said Johan Andersson, Rendering Architect at DICE via a tweet. “If that was the case we would have failed with the PC version.”

This^^^

True for almost every single multiplatform game made

No console will ever compete with pc, even the day the xbox360 came out, quake 4 looked way better on pc

the day the ps3 came out blazing angels looked way better on pc

A console is trapped in a time bubble, the hardware will never be any better than the day the hardware is picked, usually 1 to 2 year old parts are put in them so they are frozen in the past. What counts is devs getting creative and finding ways to optimize and scale their engine better.
And, even more importantly, the artists getting more creative.

Look at end cycle ps2 game like Odin Sphere, that game was freaking beautiful, like a painting come to life, if you've never played it, do it, it rivals many modern day games in beauty!

Still, that video of BF3 on ps3 looked freaking awesome to me, easily, EASILY the best looking console shooter to date,
and as much as i love my graphics and pushing tech forward, at the end of the day it's all about playing with your freidns or getting deep into an awesome game, grahpics are awesome and what i like is the push the competition to outdo eachother, but some of my favorite games look like ASS.

Right now I'm playing orcs and elves on my DS, it looks like utter poop, but it sure as hell is fun! I play for about 15 min. right before bed every night, i love it!

BF3 on PS3 will look incredible, and more importantly, it will be fun as hell!!!!!!

[Bonobo12345]

PC looks amazing, PS3 looks great...

On another note, some people think that more power = better visuals/game, however within power constraints developers get more efficient at coding and amazing things can be achieved on platforms that are even 6 years old!

straight from the mouths of Naughtydog themselves...

[Father Murder X]

Ps3faboys being fanboys. In other news the sky is blue.

[beast242tru]

i think it looks quite fine to me

[ddkshah]

anyone know the framerate of the demo? It qactually looked higher than 30fps

[e-p-ayeaH]

Pshhh MW3 looks more polished eheh.

[squidyj]

I don't recall DICE promising it would look the same across all platforms. I remember them promising that all platforms would have the same general experience and warning that graphics on PC would be superior.

Aaaand... looks like I'm right

“Our philosophy is to not to talk about things we cannot prove and this is true also when it comes to the quality of the Xbox 360 version of the game. All of the core game systems (animation, destruction, rendering, audio etc.) are the same on all platforms so there will not be a difference when it comes to the general experience of the game. Some technicalities will of course be different due to larger memory and the graphics cards you can have on the PC. We are trying to push the envelope of FPS games in general and this will be obvious in all versions of the game. Looking back to what quality we achieved with Battlefield Bad Company 2 last year we do know how to make high quality games on all platforms.”

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Looks right to me.

[TitanUp]

Technical Details

1TB Barracuda SATA 6Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive. 7200RPM, 32MB Cache. SINGLE PACK.

i don't know if the hard drive slows down im using 4 WESTERN DIGITAL 600GB VELOCIRAPTOR 3.5INCH 10000RPM 32MB CACHE SATA6.0GB S BARE WD6000HLHX

[Tigerfist]

Well said. Toning down a game for a console is fine as long as they don't tone it down on the PC version aswell.

[x800]

ps3 famboys disappointed? get the hell outa here! what do u expect from a ps3 or xbox360? to top a pc? pff

[BI0RAPTOR]

Battlefield 3 is going to be better visually for the PC gamers out there although as a console user I am still optimistic that this game is going to be the best looking FPS this year on console use only..

[SweatyFlorida]

I think the footage looks GREAT and definitely one of the better multiplatform games. I think the reason people got let down was because DICE hyped up the console graphics way too much. I don't, however, think PC guys should be talking spit against the console version.

Sure it doesn't look as good obviously since its 5 year old tech but saying how your $700 rig can do wonders over a system that was made 5 years ago is retarded and makes you look pathetic. and though you can yap all the specs you want PS3 users will always have triple the amount of AAA games as PC. So get prettier graphics for $500-900 or have 20+ games to play for $299? yah that's a hard decision! :)

Point is we shouldn't even be fighting over the same game we are all gonna enjoy. Instead we should be dogging other shooters who are trying to compete with the game we're gonna play. >:D We should have a united community, not a split one, regardless of how pretty our version looks or what platform we play on. Let's show COD what teamwork is all about!!

[SirScaryGhost]

No one expects the console version to look better than the PC version. But when you say "same across all platforms", that makes everyone think "Hey, this game might look the same across all platforms!"

Go figure, right?

[Jdub895O]

in my opinion i think cod black ops still has the best graphics to date.

[gamingisnotacrime]

imo you have eye sight problems

[Jdub895O]

are you serious black ops blows away games like uncharted!! Just look at those textures!

[ASSASSYN 36o]

I watched for days during e3 when the ps3 footage was was going to be shown absent the 360 version. All I saw was bragging by ps3 gamers about the power of the ps3 and how the 360 version must be behind in development. I didn't type one word because I knew you few were setting yourselves up like you have done everytime a multiplat game is releasing. When will you learn?

[Fallouts]

It's prob just the cod fans.

[ndl1531]

what are people bitching about? it looks awsome and ALOT like the pc so WTF? plus the comparisons are using hd pc screenshots against the ps3 screenshots taken from tv so thats not fair the resolution is not the same but whatever people that are bitching are probably a$$ hurt cod fangirls

[nepdyse]

Being a console exclusive guy, i think the game looks amazing, specially considering the fact that DICE was able to do this with a 5 year old console. I couldn't be more happy and simply can't wait for the game to release. Hopefully some day though i can afford to buy a monster gaming PC.

[manny805]

I Gotta agree it looks good

[GTO_Delta]

MW3 FTW

[capitalK]

It's no PC but it still looked great

[cedaridge]

well done DICE! maybe now ppl can get over the pc B.S! and just appreciate the evolution of this great game u call "Battlefield 3" ala frostbite. psn: cedaridge xbl: cedaridge

[RAmar101]

LoL why are they complaining, you have to have a high end pc for the game to look like that, £500+ no way, I'll stick to console versions thanks. PC gaming is to costly

I hope both ps3 and 360 versions to be a solid game and I hope it gives MW3 a run for its money

[Platinum_k]

PS3 FANBOY HERE AS WELL...

...to guys who complained, "WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU IDIOTS?!"

...THE GAME LOOKS GREAT ON PS3. PERIOD

[Thoreau]

man, there is not any ps3 gamers disappointed in dice, it's is those fake ps3 owners trolling it up.

[TABSF]

All in all its about £1500 including Monitors on Hardware
However I've got over 350 games on PC coming to about £2000

Spent around £3500 on PC gaming in the last 4 years (Hardware & Software)
Some would say that is expensive but the consoles are much more costly in the long run.

Launch PS3 cost me £425 with 19" 720p TV costing me £200 then 32" costing £300 then PS3 slim at £250, never mind the controllers and other stuff.
Probably spent close to £1500 on PS3s and related hardware.
360 and Wii been bigger mistakes for me.

If I got all my multiplats on PS3 or 360 even at half price its would of been closer to £5000
Just on 1 Steam sale I got 53 games for £50. Again your looking at about £500 and that is at £10 per game which is rare on consoles

On average I only get 4 games per year on PS3, 2 on 360 and then 1 on Wii every other year.

At Christmas sales:
PSN best deal was 15% off
XBL best deal was 10% off
Steam was 25% - 96% off (that a 25% minimum off 1200 games)

PC its far cheap, the initial investment is costly but years down the line you could have saved thousands.

Also freedom on PC is unrivalled, on PS3 you have to use PSN, on 360 you have to use XBL with PC I can use anything and do anything.

Started gaming in 1996
Started PC gaming in 2007

Best move I've ever made.

[TABSF]

Also

I can build a PC at about £500 which PS3 at £300.
The PC will destroy the PS3 in multiplats and play high end PC exclusives really well.

[helghast102]

lolwut
DICE never said all versions would be the same, they just gave the blanket response of "The PS3 and Xbox 360 versions will be equal", they've ALWAYS said that the PC version will be the better one.
Are people really this dense?
edit: OH NOW IT MAKES SENSE
Go to the twitter page of the guy he responded to, EVERYTHING FALLS RIGHT INTO PLACE.
HAHAHA

[cedaridge]

To TABSF! thanxs for responding but Mann! is it REALLY REALLY that huge of a difference between pc/ps3 to justify the cost? but hey i respect what your saying. but BF3 did not look that bad on ps3 to me. anyway BIG UPS to u MAN!

[kuro2010]

The marketing strategy ftw! I believe they simply put out a topic just to make more people buy the PC ver. or the other way round(like the ps3 or xbox) so it is a WIN-WIN situation. =D

[cedaridge]

Everyone listen for a second. give SONY props for a pc vs. ps3 Battlefield discussion. lol make.believe

[helghast102]

...............what?

[CrimsonEngage]

Yes, let's judge gameplay that was not only being played on a MASSIVE tv but was also uploaded on youtube and compressed a shit load... As long as the game looks better than BC2 that's fine with me. I'm a 360 owner btw.

[vandal GAB]

It looks better than KZ3 yet the PS3 fanboys aren't happy lol. Wake up people the PS3 doesn't have unlimited power!!!

[DW74]

Just another inflammatory piece. Voted down.

[bloodybutcher]

cant wait to play this on ps3,i know that online will be great!^^

[Huntmaster17]

Gaming pc FTW. Also I may add if you ever think about building a gaming pc just check out the link below. :o

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[Thecraft1989]

LOl is shit storm here listen to all PC vs ps3 arguments.

Can't people just happy the ps3 version looks amazing for pre alpha game console game made on 5 year old tech.

the xbox guys that need to worried no with there being no footage. The guy on GT said the 360 version was not ready to be show.

geez people chill.

[kingduqc]

It looked good... for a console version... still getting on pc, it's clearly superior on pc.

fanboy war again...

[jdktech2010]

I'm just gonna wait until the open beta...I've got MOH for 360 so I'll play that and then see what it looks like on PC....

My card is a 4850 and a quad core processor so I have no doubt I can beat the consoles but the question is by how much? Personally, I would rather play on a big tv and sit in a comfortable chair but BF3 is one of those games that makes me lean towards PC gaming from time to time

[parasit3]

Jus convert to PC gaming if you knows whassup

[2fk]

true im going get a gaming pc when i get the $$$

[2fk]

idk why so many ppl are upset about the graphics...everybody should have known it would not be on par with pc....any how i think it looks awesome for a pre alpha and also looks a lot better than its competition (MW3) -__-

[-IronMan-]

They dumb it down cause of the 360. It has to be equal. 360 is holding what multiplatform games should look like.

We all know the PS3 can do so much more. Look at the exclusive titles etc.. enough said.

[Pl4sm4]

true man ... the 360 and its low specs are lowering the current gen games ... i mean .. imagine GTA4 , BFBC2 , L4D 2 ,and all other multyplats on ps3 using most of its power (the cell processor and the bluray) ... they would be on par with pc

[StarWolf]

maybe they are complaining about being shown PC footage during E3 for the Xbox360 demo and other places like the PS3 blog. Im not complaining because anyone getting this game for consoles is retarded. Its more expensive and crappier quality !! maybe for a regular 16 player fps game , get the console version to play with console friends . But not BATTLEFIELD .

[Bonerboy]

And the whining from the ps3 kids continues....

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Ok so I finally watched the Fallon segment and what I saw was good but by no means overly impressive. Being honest, MW3's hands on demo looked much better on console. BF3 pc looks out of this world but the console build left me less than inspired.

[blakstarz]

I don't know what the hell people are complaining about, it looks astonishing to me.

[onpausecybercast]

I dont know what the big deal is. Gameplay is what I'm going for. Any self called gamer will admit that gameplay is everything. Graphics and poly rendering and lighting is secondary. If DICE can make the game a carbon copy minus a few polygons and a lens flare or two. Then so have it. I will be happy. You PC players stick to your PC games we will worry about the console versions.

[Anti-Fanboyer]

The funny thing is, we should be happy that it looks better than Bad Company 2 on consoles. But the whiners aren't happy knowing there's a better looking version than the one they're buying. CRY MOAR!

[prashanth_gamer]

The PS3 footage did look good here and there,but the shooting mechanics felt way too inferior for a 30fps title,the same 30fps shooting mechanics in the PC version felt a lot more smoother,one can even bland reload animations in the PS3 version when compared with the PC version,even the sound effects felt underwhelming,also texture pop ins here and there,for a pre alpha build this looks "ok",i still dont see how is this 30fps title better than MW3 which runs @ 60fps with super responsive console controls?? Sure BF3 has got destruction and all,but then,huh wait a minute i dont want to start fanboy war on which game is better!! Both games are good,and to each his own!!

[SnukaTheMan]

Is not what I seen on jimmy fallon....now people are saying that pc was going to be the better version and the console version was never going to live up to the demo are fooling themselves....Dice themselves said all versions would look the same across ALL platforms....suddenly the pc is not a part of this "ALL platforms" nonsense....It looks like battlefield 2.

[Jonah_Reese]

Those people complaining are just... stupid.

[baodeus]

well perhaps the expectation of ps3 power isn't what it all crack up to be. Just reality, and it can be pretty hard for some to admit and to move on when they believe so blindly in something/someone said for so long when they don't really understand anything about it.

No please just don't compare to PC, what is the point?

[ufo8mycat]

Some of you PS3 gamers (those that are disappointed) are pretty silly (no offense).

How on EARTH can you believe and expect the graphical level to be the SAME? I mean seriously.

I am starting to think there are some PS3 gamers who have no clue that the HW in the PS3 is old, or have just been hyped up by 'the power of the cell', thinking it can perform miraculous.

The gameplay will be the same, obviously, but I just don't understand how some people can expect it to look like the PC version, when the HW is old.

Some of you PS3 gamers need to remember gameplay > graphics.

If you're THAT sensitive to graphics, then you picked the wrong platform.

[Pl4sm4]

the ps3 version should be heavily more detailed than the xbox version at least ... if its the same on both consoles .. then DICE isnt working hard enough to use the cell processor(which is the future of computer hardware) and the bluray . too hard to tell right now being in pre-alpha stage

[Hicken]

Biggest point: it STILL looks better than CoD.

[Mr Tretton]

I wish I was the first commentor, and posted a generic comment, that way I could gain some bubbles back that I've always deserved.

Give some gamer love to JT

[StarWolf]

i wonder how the Wii U BF3 will look

[hot111]

PC beats old,outdated console--news at 11!!
I like how PS3 fanboys still hype Cell,Sony brainwashing certainly worked for some.

Footage looks perfectly fine,in line with other PS3 exclusives(Uncharted,etc)...Di ce did a good job

[Dynasty2021]

People whining about this are idiots.

Seriously. The consoles will NEVER be better than the PC. I love my PS3, but I know PC will give me a better experience every time, I just cant justify throwing £700 every year or 2 toward new hardware to run games at maximum spec anymore.

It will still look great. Hell, even if they made it look like Bad Company 2, it will STILL be one of the best looking games ever made.

Oh, and Crytek should be crapping themselves right about now, we have a new graphics king on the block.

[Samurai_Demon]

Ok guys, when Battlefield 3 comes out, we'll compare the PS3 screen shot to a $700 PC. I don't think i can call a $700 a gaming PC. I just build my gaming PC and its cost me $2200 with no screen and no SLI setup.

[HeroPsychoDreamer]

I think the console version looked great. I only wish we could get a live console feed and not seeing it of a big screen. It would do the game more justice.