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Kojima: Modern Warfare 3 an 'action play', Battlefield 3 a 'documentary'

XMNR: Konami luminary Hideo Kojima has seen enough of both Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 and Battlefield 3 to make put them in their own unique categories of gaming and it's an interesting take on the rival franchises from Activision and Electronic Arts.

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Foxgod4694d ago (Edited 4694d ago )

Well sorth of, Battlefield is indeed more photo realistic.
COD is more hollywoodish. \\But why does Koijima go on about this subject?

He isnt really affiliated with shooters.

Nate-Dog4694d ago

He has a certain interest in Western gaming. He said a while ago (at least I'm around 95% sure it was Kojima that said it) that Eastern developers, Japanese in particular, have been lacking in the past few years and that the Western developers have surpassed them in their motivation and desire to make better games each time around.

HeavenlySnipes4694d ago

that Capcom guy said that...

ATiElite4694d ago

And the European Developers have passed the Western Devs as far as Quality and Innovation in video games.

DICE, CD Projekt Red, CCP, 4A Games, GSC, Bohemia Interactive and many many more. Euro Devs are the best Devs right now. I think Valve was the last American Dev i bought a game from.

Upbeat4694d ago

erm metal gear solid is a shooter

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thugbob4694d ago (Edited 4694d ago )

In terms of quality BF3 > MW3 hands down before both games are even out.

The CoD series is being milked. Year after year there is a new title there is no way they have enough time to make a quality title and Activison is capitalizing on it and I predict that one day they will release a blank CD with manure smeared on it stamped with *CoD:MW* and I bet it'll sell millions!

EVILDEAD3604694d ago

'Year after year there is a new title there is no way they have enough time to make a quality title'

@ Thubob..

There are two developers that have been on a two year cycle..there is enough time for them to make quality titles and they have. Naughty
Dog's Uncharted is on a two year cycle as well and I'm sure no one would complain abojut their quality.

Two year is standard in the climate.

What's interesting is seeing the different teams that are working with Infiinity ward this time. This franchise is the number onew selling game on Both the 360 and the PS3.

No matter how much hate these games get and we know where it originated, they still entertain millions and now even BF3 will stop this Billion dollars franchise.

BF3 looks great as well..but I know I'll own both

Evil

ZombieNinjaPanda4694d ago

@TheKiller

We're talking about Battlefield 3, Modern Warfare 3, and hideo Kojima here.

Take your political bullshit somewhere else where it's more appropriate

AzaziL4694d ago

Saw on your comments before on how you liked CoD, so I guess your cool with playing as a terrorist that slaughters civilians at an airport but you got your panties in a bunch because this game is based in Iraq and the enemy is the insurgents and Iran.

ChrisW4694d ago (Edited 4694d ago )

We all know that DICE makes better FPSs than Infinity. Or at least fans of BF or partially unbias people.

SephirothX214694d ago

Lol @ the killer
I haven't seen such a level of retardation from an individual for a long time.

lve2playbball4694d ago

@ The Killer

Wow, you are retarded.

ChrisW4694d ago

The Killer seems like one of those guys who believed that the world was going to end last May.

BISHOP-BRASIL4694d ago

@upbeat

You probably got confused over MGS4 gameplay which CAN be played as a shooter, although you can also play through it almost without firing your guns.

Or maybe you through of MGO...

Anyway, all Metal Gear games released so far were Stealth Action games. Maybe Rising will be the exception (althrough even that will definetely have stealth elements).

RockmanII74694d ago

Heavenly is right too, I remember Kenji Inafune said something very similar and I think it was the reason why he left Capcom.

awi59514694d ago (Edited 4694d ago )

@ EVILDEAD360

There is a huge diffrence between the uncharted developers and the Cod factories. The uncharted developers made their own game. These COD factory companies are just a bunch of banana riders that stole all the tech from the real infinity ward, Jason West and Vince Zampella, and wrangled themselves a mod out of assets they got from infinity ward and called it a game. Thats why its the same old engine same old everything because they dont have the talent. And they cant steal ideas or tech from Jason West and Vince Zampella.

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iamnsuperman4694d ago

I agree it is more photo realistic but I wouldn't compare BF3 to a documentary. Still an unrealistic game. MW3 is defiantly more hollywoodish than BF3

lil Titan4694d ago

looks like ill be playing a "Documentary" on my "Movie Theater" http://n-europe.com/forum/s...

sikbeta4694d ago (Edited 4694d ago )

HA! Kojima is a BF fanboy lol :P

ChrisW4694d ago

Kojima knows which publisher is better, that's why he's a BF fanboy.

soundslike4694d ago

because recently people mine twitter for blog fodder.

can't say I like the idea of every somewhat-interesting tweet being submitted... maybe N4G should have a popular tweet stream section so that submissions aren't as flooded. This kind of thing is just as annoying as trolling for hits with out-of-context interviews....except:

"Hey look an interview!

oh wait its just a retweet passing off as news with a super generalized analysis for the 1000th time"

Stay retarded N4G

_Q_4694d ago (Edited 4694d ago )

I'm not gonna go into this too much but Metal Gear
is (and always has been)based loosely on our(USA) past military endeavors interwoven with MG's story to coincide within our real history. This alone takes an incredible amount of research to come up with concepts that are sound when it translate to a good story. Given that he writes quite a bit of the series, i'd expect Kojima to be well versed in western military knowledge after this many iterations of MG. Maybe he knows a thing or to about the military and games based around them....Just maybe.

Lol So much for not going into it too much.

pain777pas4694d ago

The quality is there now for BF3 but what if EA ends up successful? We'll have to see what happens then.

JOHN_DOH4694d ago

Yeah devs from Europe are putting out good stuff, I think maybe because Europe PC is more popular and in the US consoles seem to be more popular

HardCover4694d ago

I don't know why he goes on about it, but it reminds me of when Killzone 2 was getting all the attention.

Kojima played it at a show and said it was one badass game. Guess he simply likes the visceral FPS games that aren't obstinately generic.

thesummerofgeorge4693d ago

Foxgod - You don't have to make FPS' to have an opinion on them.

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Urmomlol4694d ago

What does that make Metal Gear Solid?

A poorly written book?

Ser4694d ago

Nah, I'd call it an enormous DVD boxset of a very deep TV series with a lot of bonus content.

There's a lot of story in the MGS universe, and I love every second of it.

killerhog4694d ago

The mgs story gotten stale to me unfortunately. Just couldn't get into 3/4.

NarooN4694d ago

More like a long-running TV series of doom.

The only real low point of the series was 4, where pretty much the entire game was just Kojima trying to explain his way out of the many retcons and plot holes he established in the previous games (including MG1 and 2).

Still was a decent game though.

*cue 50 million disagrees*

bangoskank4694d ago

Couldn't agree more. The gameplay in MGS4 was fantastic but once those cut scenes kicked in I was equally parts embarrassed and bored.

Nate-Dog4694d ago

Agreed aswell. MGS4 was a good game, but in comparison with previous MGS games it just wasn't as good as it could and should have been. The addition of Portable Ops and Peace Walker (and surely Peace Walker 2) hasn't impressed me either; PO was full of retcons too, and Peace Walker was a completely pointless game despite Kojima's claims of it being so important in regards to Outer Heaven. All we see is the beginning of it, and that's at the end of the game, and the rest of the game is full of unimportant and unmemorable characters and plot. It was still a good PSP game but storywise it just is going downhill in my opinion. It was supposed to end at MGS2, and didn't, then was supposed to end at MGS3 and didn't, and MGS4 was Snake's finale and surely MGS's finale but Kojima couldn't stop there could he? (Not saying no more Metal Gear Solid games should have ever been made / should ever be made, but this current series and current story has gone on too long.

Takoulya4694d ago

I still maintain that MGS4 was a true masterpiece. I still remember all of the truly emotional moments, all the cinematic dialogues. "I'm not a hero... never was, never will be." The story was on par with the other MG's, as well. The only reason it seems like it's bad was because it was based farther into the future, a much grander scale than the previous iterations, and made into an amazing set piece.

Gamer_Z4694d ago

@Urmomlol

More like a bad Anime

Takoulya4694d ago

And of course, two people come in and bash the most artistically crafted game this generation.

nihonlight4694d ago (Edited 4694d ago )

I think its a slight mistranslation.
He might have just been trying to say " more true to life"
Don't take it literal. We all know what he's talking about.

_Q_4694d ago

Of course its a metaphor. And its pretty dead on the mark.

This issue is many people drawn to the COD series would never finish MGS. Yes there are folks who have come across the series but I know so many people who are into mainly FPS who know nothing about the real meat of the MGS series and just wouldnt care thus so many people coming in talking as if Kojima wouldnt know anything about military games. Pretty dumb.

RememberThe3574694d ago

Haha I like that. It kind of sums up their different approaches.

WhiteLightning4694d ago

If the guys i actualy interested in Western gaming I wonder what he thinks of Uncharted 2/3

LarVanian4694d ago

He would probably be very impressed with the graphics and art direction and may even comment on how much it feels like a Hollywood blockbuster.

Queasy4694d ago (Edited 4694d ago )

He pretty much put in the same category as COD.

Queasy4694d ago

To the disagrees, read the quote. He mentions COD and Uncharted in the exact. same. sentence.

Takoulya4694d ago

Except one is actually claiming to render "Modern Warfare."

Complete bullshit.

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Call of Duty Players Disappointed by $80 B.E.A.S.T. Glove Bundle Deal

Recently, players of Modern Warfare 3 and Warzone were met with a new bundle featuring the B.E.A.S.T. Glove, inspired by King Kong's armament in the Godzilla x Kong movie. However, the $80 price tag attached to this themed accessory left many Call of Duty fans feeling underwhelmed.

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Kaii5d ago

Morons that allow themselves to be milked continuously by this company is the definition of irony.
Spend more $$ and you'll end up In easier lobbies so you win both ways when ya spend that cash

melons5d ago

Controversy in the COD community feels like it happens within an alternate timeline. Activision will take the piss with something, there will be a momentary fuss about it, and then they will forget about it and carry on anyway. Repeat this cycle literally every year for the rest of time.

Gridknac4d ago

They call that a crack head! Thats what this is really about, its an addiction. People who dont smoke cigarettes look and laugh at the addicts that spend $8-$10 a pack, but they cant help themselves, they are addicted. That same analogy applies perfectly to the whole MT industry. Only an addict that was not thinking clearly would spend this kind of money on something so frivolous. A round of multiplayer provides the same high a person gets from scratching a lotto ticket, or putting money on a sports bet. MT in general need to really be regulated because you have a generation of kids becoming adults who grew up only knowing the MT era of gaming. Its normal to them and they will in turn teach their kids the same by just being a gaming parent and getting their kids involved with them in gaming. Thats why no matter how ridiculous the headlines keep getting out of the MT industry, it never seems to fade or go away.

X-233d ago

I'm so tired of hearing about what they're doing with this game, its never going to change and it's never going to value the consumer over money, furthermore the people who engage so heavily in the microtransactions I guess allegedly are having a blast and can't wait to do it some more this year when the new version of the game drops.

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Cheech And Chong Are Coming To Call Of Duty Because Everything Must Be Consumed

The famous comedy duo is the latest example of pop culture becoming one big grey blob

Christopher19d ago

Certain to have some sort of reference to their online store for CBD/THC chews, which is advertising heavily online the last month or two.

Sciurus_vulgaris19d ago

The randomness of the multiplayer characters is one of reason I quit playing COD after briefly returning in 2022. We got Space Marines, rappers, tree monsters etc. all in a series called “ Modern Warfare”.

OtterX19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

I think if there was ever a time for a competitor to rise up and take away some of Call of Duty's thunder, the time would be now. A military shooter that takes itself seriously, not sold out to Fortnitism. Easier said than done, I know... but the time is ripe.

I can't stand this stuff either.

Palitera18d ago

There are tons of MP shooters that make no profit, if you're looking for one of those

fsfsxii18d ago

You guys have been saying this shit since 2009. Fortunately, nobody’s bringing down cod anytime soon, if ever.

crazyCoconuts18d ago

I agree. I really didn't like how the silliness takes away the gritty origins. That and all the crazy effects... dunno. I'm still playing it but I'd love for someone to steal their cheese and cater to grittier players

OtterX18d ago

@fsfsxii It's not so much wanting COD itself to die as it is wanting this silliness to die. Like CrazyCoconuts said, it takes from the grittiness. Many OG COD players want a straightup Military shooter experience, not silly costume time at Carnival.

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Profchaos18d ago

is this what the kids want these days a pair of iconic stoners who were big in the 70s and have kind of held on I enjoyed their movies decades ago but I never recall the movie where cheech infiltrates a enemy base while chong snipes for support guess I must of missed that one

Man I'm getting to old for this

Knightofelemia19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Cheech just looks so wrong in the picture.

Profchaos18d ago

Why just why. cod up in smoke

anast18d ago

They charge too much for a game that is kitsch.

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MW3 missed its easiest opportunity to give us some of the best Call of Duty maps ever made

From Bootleg to Black Box, Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 made a heartbreaking mistake by not remastering the bizarrely forgotten maps from its namesake.

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