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Bleszinski: You have to work with hackers

Lead Gears of War dev and Epic Games’ design director Cliff Bleszinski has said that the international games industry would do well to embrace the hacking community.

“Generally speaking when it comes to hackers, you want to embrace a lot of what they are doing instead of fighting it. I think the industry is slowly learning that," he said.

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hiredhelp4697d ago

WTF oh MS really have u by the short and curlys.

Active Reload4697d ago

I guess people don't fully understand the implications of Cliff's statments or MS's actions. Probably a perfect anaology for this would be like how anti-venom is used as a cure for a snake bite, but the anti-venom is actually made from the venom of the snake. Hope that helps...

ZombieNinjaPanda4697d ago

Perfect analogy. Fact of the matter is many "hackers" just want some added functionality to what they own.

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gamingdroid4697d ago (Edited 4697d ago )

Hackers really should be called tinkerers. They like to tinker (or make changes) with things, in a similar fashion people like to make customized characters in game or create levels in their favorite game.

Tinkering with things can result in major benefits such as Linux based routers, XBMC and so on, but can also be used for evil purposes.

From a security stand point, you definitely want to align yourself with hackers when you are wearing a fake bulletproof vest that all companies do. If you can't beat em, join em!

afterMoth4697d ago

Instead of getting more mature with each passing year this Cliffy B goes the other direction.. and his starting point wasn't good to begin with.

bangoskank4697d ago (Edited 4697d ago )

@Active Reload

A lot people on this board are too ignorant or biased to understand what he is trying to say but your analogy is perfect.

GrieverSoul4697d ago (Edited 4697d ago )

Hackers are just in it for the thrill of the challenge. You cant work with these guys! You cant embrace what they are doing! Cmon people, should we embrace everything the law cant handle? Should we embrace terrorism and work with terrorists? NO!!! There is no reasoning with them! They have their agenda and so do the hackers.

Clifford, you are just a low life type of person that tries to spin everything against Sony. I know you like MS and there is no wrong with that, but dont make these statments and go make some more AAA games. ;)

Note: It would take 50 million Sony fanboys to surpass the amount of 360 fanboy you are Mr. Bleszinski.

captain-obvious4696d ago

another day
another line form cliffy b's "wisdom"

keep on trolling cliff
a mean its not like you got a game to work on or anything

Machioto4696d ago

@active
That's not a lilke for like scenario because hacker are not animal that attack out of fear or provocation,they don't need anti-hackers,they need laws to let them know we don't want them tampering in our business.

SephirothX214696d ago

@superduper
It seems your brain is maxed out because you clearly have no common sense.

Active Reload4696d ago (Edited 4696d ago )

"That's not a lilke for like scenario because hacker are not animal that attack out of fear or provocation,they don't need anti-hackers,they need laws to let them know we don't want them tampering in our business."

Obviously. I'm not saying that there shouldn't be laws against hacking, nor am I saying there should be--it's a contrevorsial topic that I can have fun with as far as stating different perspectives about it--food for thought if you will. These laws have helped to some extent, but obviously they don't provide a permanent solution. I don't really know if Sony would be in a position to do what MS is doing, so them wanting to enforce laws may be their only option. I think there was an article on here--that I haven't read yet--were the heading was "Sony: There's no turning back...". Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was about Sony going full steam ahead with prosecuting the hackers. But say I'm a company like MS and I'm bringing hackers under my wing. My intent is to use the hackers to see how they are doing what it is they're doing, I'm paying them for their know-how. I'm asking them for advice on how to beef up my security, in essence I'm asking them "What would and how would a hacker go about getting through my security and what not?" I'm certain a hacker would become more prosperous working with a company in this capacity, than on their own. It creates a win-win situation were a business tightens up it's security even more and probably a former hacker turns a new leaf and prospers.

SkyGamer4696d ago

I agree with you Active Reload. Why do you think that the US government as well as other govt will offer hackers jobs so they can improve their security?

kneon4696d ago (Edited 4696d ago )

I think it's time we went back to the original use of the term hacker. Back when I started programming some 30 years or so ago, being called a hacker was a good thing, it meant you were a coding wiz, what we refer to as hackers today were called crackers back then. Hackers try to create and improve code, crackers try to take, disrupt and destroy.

When CB is referring to hackers he's talking more about the old usage of hacker, not the crackers.

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mendicant4697d ago

The fact that you have nine agrees amazes me.

StbI9904697d ago

Cliffy love getting Bang-hacknged by a band of hackers and he affirm it here.

Diamondwolf4696d ago

Right, let the torrent for GeOW3 get publicized a month before the game's release, net over 12m downloads and the console sales equal around 50 thousand units and let's see what good ole Mr. Clifford says about hackers then.

yewles14696d ago

@Diamondwolf   Indeed.

CoLD FiRE4696d ago

@Diamondwolf You're mistaking "Hackers" for "Pirates". They're NOT the same.

lil Titan4696d ago

"dumb asses" comes to mind smh why work with the enemy? Huey said it best "I do not sip tea with the enemy."

Aarix4696d ago

I'd rather have the enemy work for me and use their ability against future hackers than having him and other hackers against me.

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MoDyDo4697d ago

This guy never agrees with anything sony related!!

rabidpancakeburglar4697d ago

If Sony cured cancer, he would probably come out saying that we need cancer.

MoDyDo4697d ago

hahahahahaha XD XD bub+

Uncharted3Goty4697d ago (Edited 4697d ago )

Microsoft Approves these message.

http://n4g.com/news/782773/...

likedamaster4696d ago

"...Microsoft can also confirm that the company has not offered to mentor or hire a 14-year-old from Tallaght who purportedly was related to a phishing scheme."

You got the story twisted homie.

Silly gameAr4697d ago

So cower in a corner while some kids that may not have the best intentions in mind f your s*** up. Nice one Cliff.

Infernostew4697d ago

Can't wait for people to leak your game a$$hole.

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New Shark Tank Inspired Wolves’ Den Game Contest With Spatial, Youtube, and Gaming Legends

Rapper/Actor Ice-T, and YouTube, Gaming Legends, Cliff Bleszinski, Welyn, And Barji To Judge First ‘Wolves Den’ Game Jam Series On Spatial Platform

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N4GTG40d ago

This could be great for some indie developers

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Gears of War Creator CliffyB Offers His Thoughts on Xbox Exclusives Going Multiplatform

During a recent Game Rant interview, Gears of War creator CliffyB comments on Xbox-exclusive games possibly adopting multiplatform models.

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S2Killinit41d ago

Im sure he would love it. More money for him.

OtterX41d ago

Yea, I remember seeing him and his Lamborghini at one point in history. Lol, I think that kind of gives it away.

rippermcrip40d ago

Doubtful he gets any residuals from anything Gears related.

rippermcrip40d ago

Bunch of clowns down voting without any explanation of how exactly he is getting money off Gears. You think Notch still gets Minecraft money too?

jznrpg39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

Depends on the contract. Some contracts have residuals some don’t

Whitey2k41d ago

Sometimes I don't get what he says half the times. He could of put gears on the playstation from the start but he's fanboyness for xbox got in the way

Notellin41d ago

I imagine this is exactly how fanboys feel how this went down. Microsoft paid for all the development and took all the risk off Epic games for a new IP.

It has nothing to do with anyone being a fanboy. Well other than yourself who oversimplified this entire franchises history.

LoveSpuds40d ago

I agree Notellin, however, once he was in bed with MS he did become pretty 'anti Sony' ans was such a shill for MS.

Hofstaderman40d ago

This. And Sony also does this with titles these days.

shinoff218340d ago

I thought it was said cliffs shopped it around hence rumors of a ps3 demo being out there. If ms took on all the cost, why is there a ps3 demo?

Rude-ro40d ago

Not true at all.
Microsoft had to buy the ip because the contract ran out on keeping it exclusive.
Microsoft took no risk, they just marketed the game and payed for a contract.
Not hard to find out.

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Ironmike40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

Your the the fanboy

Sciurus_vulgaris40d ago

No, Epic signed a development and publishing contract with Xbox for Gears of War. After Judgement Microsoft still had the Gears of War publishing rights. Epic then sold the Gears of War IP to Microsoft in 2014. Cliffy B never owned Gears of War, he was just a lead designer of the series.

rippermcrip40d ago

Ya I don't know what people are saying about CliffyB making money of Gears sales nowadays. He was never the owner and Epic no longer owns it either.

ChasterMies40d ago

“He could of put gears on the playstation from the start but he's fanboyness for xbox got in the way”

It has nothing to do with fondness for the Xbox platform. Microsoft paid for exclusivity.

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Travesty40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

Well when you look at the sales perspective of ps5. It has a big audience selling over a 2 to 1 ratio. It makes money sense.
Fanboy era was at its prime during the ps3-360 generation. It’s not as toxic as it once was, thankfully. People grow out of it eventually. I have my preference just as the next person. That being said it’s coming to be more about expanding availability instead of standing behind a brand. Much more Microsoft than Sony. But Sony will probably move up its time of PC release for increase revenue.
We will see, it’s just speculation.

Psychonaut8540d ago

CliffyB is like David Jaffe at this point, always quick with the opinions but haven’t made a successful game in over a decade at this point. Do any of us really care what they think about anything? I certainly don’t.

shinoff218340d ago

I never liked the guy tbh but he's got more relevance in gaming then we do.

Skuletor40d ago

CliffyB, I haven't heard that name since Lawbreakers flopped.

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Sorry, CliffyB, But "Gears of War" Doesn’t Need A "God of War"- Style Reboot

Shaz from GL writes: “In an interview, Cliff Bleszinski says that he’d be interested in helping develop a Gears of War reboot akin to God of War. Unnecessary? I think so.”

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Jin_Sakai166d ago

Regardless, Gears of War gameplay feels outdated this day and age.

spicelicka164d ago

I completely disagree. Outdated in what way? There is literally no other cover based TPS multiplayer game like it and the core gameplay is so good that people still play Gears 1 today. I can't think of any games that has shotgun battles like Gears. The real issue is that there is simply no new audience for it, because the learning curve is so steep. It just needs to market itself better and the work needs to be done on the campaign side. Better to just split up the single player and multiplayer as two different projects and releases.

Also, this who "reboot" discussion isn't considering the fact that God of war doesn't have multiplayer as a significant portion of the game. Single player only games have a lot more freedom to change. With Gears you have to consider that there's an entire community still playing every day, so you can't just change the core gameplay balance. On top of that they can't dedicate as many resources to single player as God of war, because the budget has to be split with multiplayer.

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Gamingsince1981164d ago

There is no other one like it because there is no demand for that style of game, kinda obvious really. If there was an interest in gears style games the market would be flooded with them.

lucian229164d ago

Gears of War 1 and 2 were bad combat wise.... Story wise too. I beat both of them because of the hype and gave up after that.

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GamerRN164d ago

I agree. It needs done kind of overhaul, but I don't think a God of War style would suit this game.

I gotta be honest I don't know what it needs, but it needs something ... And 5 wasn't it

terrorofdeath164d ago

Maybe it's a reboot more in the sense of a more emotional storyline or something like God of War, and some small tweaks in terms of gameplay.

anast164d ago

They don't have the talent to do a GoW style reboot.

DOMination-164d ago

Do you have a genuine reason to come to that conclusion, other than it not being a PlayStation studio?

The Coalition probably have the best and most knowledge team on Unreal Engine 5 outside of Epic. I'd have thought if anyone "had the talent", it would be them.

Rude-ro164d ago

Because they did not do a fantastic job when they took over the ip.

In fact, the majority of ips under Microsoft shows complete signs of cheap development with bigger marketing budgets.

More make up on dated engines can work… but can not be mistaken for innovative.
No innovation equals no ability to push a franchise into anything new.
Take the “open world” introduction in the last gears…
Empty vast traveling areas to get to pre determined “random” encounter areas is a cheap developing approach.. not innovation to build any trust into.

kneon164d ago

Even if they were the best in the world at UE5 that would only mean that they might make a great looking game. It takes a lot more than that to make a great game.

anast163d ago

"Do you have a genuine reason to come to that conclusion, other than it not being a PlayStation studio?"

History and current output.

jznrpg99d ago

Look at the last 10 years and you have plenty of evidence

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rgraf77164d ago

God of War is overrated. Those boring boat rides talking and backtracking.

GamingManiac164d ago

Bruh, that made me laugh lol

anast163d ago

I'm not big on the game, but it isn't overrated.

Inverno164d ago

A reimagining that continues the lore, and story of established characters is absolutely a great way to continue a series that needs a refresh. I agree that any long standing franchise that has run it's course definitely needs a "God of War" style reboot, because GOW did it right. I might have my issues with the last two games but they did right by the series regardless.

Ra3030164d ago

There's no helping Gears of Woke. Microsoft killed this franchise when they forced the woke culture into the story.

itBourne164d ago

God of War did the same, just in a more subtle sly way.... They could of probably made a few cuts and bam, PG rated movie right there. God of Rainbows and Daisies.

itBourne164d ago

Dang, so many dislikes lol, willing to elaborate, just didnt want to throw out a bunch of spoilers. If anyone wants to discuss as to why, im always open to discussions. Just shoot me a DM.

343_Guilty_Spark164d ago (Edited 164d ago )

How is it woke? Because the lead is a female?

Is Horizon woke also?

CantThinkOfAUsername164d ago

It is, but not due to the gender of its protagonist.

zeuanimals164d ago

There's no helping you. Anti-woke culture killed your brain when they force fed you the idea that diversity is the worst thing ever.

Ra3030164d ago

Lol....good to see that you agree as do I with the fact Microsoft went woke as Disney with the Gear franchise. Microsoft tried to save the franchise by taking the formula that was working with the strong Bro leads and going to the woke weakass female formula that no one cared about.

Binarycode164d ago

Diversity isn't a strength. Look at the world. That's the reason it's in the state it is.

Gamingsince1981164d ago

Forced diversity is the reason people don't like diversity, you should just hire who is best for what, not have to tick boxes first then worry about talent next.

zeuanimals164d ago (Edited 164d ago )

@ra3030

Every company has gone woke, even successful ones. Those don't fit your narrative though. Yeah no, the only two things Microsoft and Disney have in common is that they're woke /s

Totally not that they're risk averse companies that don't wanna innovate in fear of it being a waste of time. They've got bottomless pockets and limited time. So they spend their time trying to crack codes, find patterns, create money making templates out of whatever property they're working on. It needs to be as mass produceable as possible. Disney and Microsoft, bringing sweat shop factory made quality to gaming storefronts and theaters near you.

zeuanimals164d ago

@binary

Right because the world was so much better segregated... and there's a million other reasons I'd put ahead of diversity as to why the world is the way it is, but way to show how much diversity is on your brain by how dangerous you think it is. It's literally the cause of everything to you.

@gaming

Actually forced diversity is the only reason people like diversity. If you don't force people to do it, they won't do it. The only people who end up liking it due to having met new people with different perspectives only ever got to because they were kind of forced to. That's literally part of the reason diversity is being advocated for, because it promotes innovation. Having dozens of people with too similar of viewpoints can lead them to being too likeminded and unable to think of different solutions, or even different problems that weren't even recognized. There's more than one way to be a useful hire, and having a genuinely unique perspective is one of them.

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Crows90164d ago

I thought they were doing a soft reboot with gears4 but then it turned out to be the exact same as all the others.

A more horror oriented and tight corridor renewal would work for that franchise....also...why they got guns? They're alien like...they should have other types of weapons entirely.

OMNlPOTENT164d ago

dang why do most of the different species in god of war use swords, axes, and bows? They should have other types of weapons entirely.

Crows90164d ago (Edited 164d ago )

They don't... Okay you obviously haven't played god of war. What a way of owning yourself man! Lol

The draugr are pretty much the only ones...and besides we're comparing established mythology with made up bug aliens

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