slavish34700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

ok this doesn't give all the details

WhittO4700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

No details at all really.

SD Storage space? Really?...

Nintendo seems to think having specs that equal the latest smartphones/hand helds is acceptable and some how impressive.
Vita will own it in terms of features and probably be comparable in terms of power lol.

Being capable of outputting 1080p does not automatically mean it will be powerful at all, even my little netbook can output in HD lol.

Will-UK4700d ago

Wow could Nintendo just give us the details at the conference instead of talking all about the controller

WhittO4700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

^^ How can you even try and defend them not adding internal HDD Storage!? It's meant to have all of these advanced graphical capabilities etc and compete with 360/PS3. 360 + PS3 have been out for 4+ years now, HOW can this system STILL be BEHIND them in specs!?

But have no fear, this too will have a lifecycle of 2-3 years, then you can buy the new "Wii Us" that will also be 4+ years behind in tech terms, but don't sweat...it will also be priced ridiculously high for the specs/features it has too!

sikbeta4700d ago

Sorry but, they are trying to sell the controller alone or the controller it's actually the console? still confused here @_@

superadvanced4700d ago

More details of cpu? gpu? ram?

DigitalAnalog4700d ago

Did the "swallow" and "Zelda HD" demo show ANY indication to the capabilities of the Wii U? Or were you REALLY distracted by the tablet design?

-End statement

darthv724700d ago

like intel did with their cpu's. It wasnt about the speed anymore. It was about the efficiency. So we may be wondering what does the power of the wii-u translate into in regards to what we have ALWAYS been told. GHz, Megabytes, etc.

It isnt about what it is made of but about what it is capable of. The proof is in the games.

NukaCola4700d ago

I get it. The cotnroller is the brain & the console is the processing power. If this is the route they wanted to take, they should of made a better 3DS and used that as the controller. This WiiU controller looks like a leapster

Ju4700d ago

I didn't even get they announced a new console. I was so turned off by that controller presentation that I missed that part. LOL. Well, maybe it'll work. They surprised before.

Not giving out hard specs to me looks like that thing is not done, yet. But OTHO, it didn't create any buzz either. Weird. If it is so over the top, why not brag. Fishy. Scheduled for 2012 anyhow. Why do I have the feeling they rushed that out? Hm...why not wait until they can show more?

jerethdagryphon4700d ago

how expensive will replacment controllers be?

100 minimium id say

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FACTUAL evidence4700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

smh...i have to admit that controller had me loving it until i found out it was the new "console". It's sad....all the n4g talk I thought it would be at least on par with the 360. Wii U seems more like an add-on to the wii to me.

EDIT: if you guys are watching E3 still, Adam Sessler just said he's not a fan still......lmao. I knew it wasn't just me.

Brasi824700d ago

But Adam Sessler is a douche whom I cannot stand.

Louis_Guzman4700d ago

Sesslers a balding, biased, creepy manchild. I'd watch Xplay, but my provider flushed G4 faster than an aborted fetus.

Army_of_Darkness4700d ago

Hmmm... Dont really agree with your example though.... I would have rather use reject him faster than my girl asking to watch a chick flick with her... Like the notebook:-[

abc12334700d ago

It is on par with 360, they showed some BF3 footage I believe and it looked quite good, though if you consider it's a next gen console then it's probably quite poor since it doesn't appear to surpass 360/PS3

HardCover4700d ago

The controller isn't the new "console."

The new console is the new console. Don't just shake your head, use it.

And I don't care what Adam Sessler says. He's a buffoon.

AWBrawler4697d ago

the control is not the console lol
wow! Did you even pay attention?

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SilentNegotiator4700d ago

"Optical discs"

Oh that's helpful.
lol

And the CPU info.....couldn't be TOO MUCH more vague.

turgore4700d ago

They might as well have said
CPU: Silicon bassed.

fatstarr4700d ago

See the articles with leaked dev kits they are looking more and more correct with each posting

"A single self-loading media bay will play 12-centimeter proprietary high-density
optical discs for the new console, as well as 12-centimeter Wii optical disk"

Id love to load up some game cube disks :D
hopefully its possible

but the vita wont be more powerful than the wiiU
unless people admit that its more powerful than the ps3

cause tri-core cpu 3.5ghz customized for gaming and a 4xxx ati card is powerful enough to run crisis 2.

multipayer4700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

The Vita will be more innovative than the Wii U. *uses backtouch* Nintendo can't be much more humiliated than that...

Ju4700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

So, basically, if we get remote play on the Vita, that would be about the same, right?

Basically a PS3/Vita combo can do all what that thing does. And you can actually game out of your house.

Sure, next gen HW is cool, controller "pad"? I don't quite get it. Well, 6.2" vs. 5". Cost will be a factor. How much is one of those "pads" ?

JoshuaN4G4700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

Cool Cool Cool

N4g_null4696d ago

Lol this is hilarious. So much doubt it's great. Now 3rd parties that got skills can show them. Very large amount of dram on the CPU. Very large. Some would say huge. I like the anti hype approach.

Did you see the tessalation on the water? Did you see the light scattering on the bird? See the texture res or the fact that the camera was interactive? Nope well you should have been at e3 because it was. All your spec where right in front of you. If a ps3 had to render to another screen it would melt. What is uncharted at 30fps now after all those 15-20 fps games wow.

The external USB drive is going to be boss. 3tb drives are cheap. Not all demos where shown though. Maybe next press conference. None of you guys make games any way you should be more concerned with games. Can wait to see what suda does.

I'm glad nintendo did not go into super hype mode over tech. We didn't even know what an Nes had in it we just knew it player super Mario.

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M-Easy4700d ago

I need tech guys to tell me if this is powerful or not? I see it does 6ch PCM which the 360 can't do but what about the graphics?

Fishy Fingers4700d ago

Very little specifics on actual internal hardware. You'd need more information than this to make even an educated guess.

M-Easy4700d ago

Oh OK so the author lied. No official specs just a vague list of components.

EYEamNUMBER14700d ago

it doesn't say any of that this is more about what the console has on it rather than what is actually inside of it

Dart894700d ago

Wait wasn't their a rumor that it was going to use blu ray??

JsonHenry4700d ago

It didn't give a reference design on the CPU, state how much (how little?) system RAM it has, or give any details on the AMD GPU that is rumored to be in it.

There is literally no way to tell at this point or even guess. Didn't even say how many cores the CPU had.

Peaceful_Jelly4700d ago

no Ram, no CPU specs and they don't even mention the GPU brand... Conclusion? We have no idea.

ALFAxD_CENTAURO4700d ago

''CPU: IBM Power®-based multi-core microprocessor.''
''Video Output: Supports 1080p, 1080i, 720p, 480p and 480i. Compatible cables include HDMI,''

That is something.

f7897904700d ago

I could have told you that stuff a year ago based on it being so standard. It is absolutely nothing.

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Valk4700d ago

1080p... Finally next gen gaming

fluffydelusions4700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

lol. PS3/360 are capable of 1080p. The games/hw are what determine that though. Perfect Dark remake on 360 runs at 1080p like Wipeout on PS3 does also but more resource intense games are unable to run at 1080p on the hardware. Obviously mario was running at 1080p because it's not very demanding.

theonlylolking4700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

Some PS3 games run in 1080p.

@plbelanger
The xbox 360 has upscaling 1080p not true 1080p

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Masta_fro4700d ago

dude, gt5 is 1280X1080, not 1920X1080, but still, its quite a graphical achievement considering the amount of detail...

Rageanitus4700d ago

Correction 90 percent of the games this gen barely even do 720p resolution.... what you see on thexbox s upscaled.

True native resolution 1920x1080 is very hard to come by on these consoles... the only systems that can do gaming in 1080p is simply a decent PC.

barb_wire4700d ago

PS3 and 360 have been doing that for years.. Welcome to Next Gen Nintendo

Peaceful_Jelly4700d ago

more like, welcome to current-gen Nintendo.

Valk4700d ago

Really? GTA isnt 1080, Borderlands isnt, Batman isnt, Bioshock isnt. The list of games on SP3 and 360 that are not 1080 is just too long. Please leave your very small list of games that are 1080p. I'm talking about true next gen where every game is 1080p and 60fps.

barb_wire4700d ago

@Valk

Oh right, you mean those little mock ups we saw, Reggie himself said all the footage of the 3rd party games was taken from the 360.

The PS3 has games that run natively in 1080p. Google it DA.. NDF is strong today.

Alexmaru4700d ago

Next gen???!!! Lol, maybe for kids, but for hardcore gamers, no way

Valk4700d ago

Read the comment about your clown. If it was for kids you'd be all over it.

640p GTA isnt exactly HD IMO but you kids are easily impressed because you lack knowledge of PC gaming.

Christopher4700d ago

Native 1080p in all games won't be achieved on a console in this generation. It's an exponential leap up from 720p, a resolution that most HD games are incapable of running on consoles as it is.

We won't see native 1080p in video games on a console for another 5 years, at least. The increased processing is costly, even by today's standards, and requires more than just a high end GPU to support it.

flyingmunky4700d ago

Well if that is really the case at least I won't need a new hdtv for another 5 years.

Ju4700d ago

Ah, palease. Sure that thing runs 1080p native. I mean, it looks like those rumors are quite true. Not sure, someone compiled something here: http://www.reddit.com/r/gam... E3 tech demo: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Not sure if that is all fake or true. HW will be quite capable, me thinks. But they still try to sell this as a kids toy. Not sure if that'll work. What about a real controller, is the Wii-Mote improved? I can't imagine playing BF(3) on that pad.

Bolts4700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

I've been gaming in native 1080p on my PC for years. It's not that hard as long as the consoles stop using fossilized technology and specs that a high end Android cell phone can match.

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liveActionLeveler4700d ago

i can't wait to get the gpu details.

user8586214700d ago

it could be a modified bluray disc like what the wii did to dvd or... a different disc with similar storage

jacksons984700d ago

Rumored it uses Blu-ray, but of course with Nintendo's own little quirk.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1016d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref5d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde5d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19725d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville5d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21835d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos5d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai6d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref5d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan5d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0074d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19726d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref5d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde5d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19725d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19725d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier5d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto5d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21835d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto4d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman5d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts5d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts4d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic4d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel12d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8811d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing11d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS11d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder10d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218310d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.