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CVG - Is PlayStation Move in big trouble?

CVG - Sony's motion controller, the PlayStation Move, has been out for a while now but it seems to be having some trouble picking up traction. Although there are a number of games compatible with the Move there hasn't been a standout title yet.

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LOGICWINS4722d ago (Edited 4722d ago )

Well it has no MUST have exclusive titles right now...so I'd say thats a bad thing. Personally, if Uncharted 3 supported Move and its was FULLY integrated into the game(melee, shooting, driving, climbing), then I'd buy it in a heartbeat. ND hasn't confirmed or denied anything...but I'm sure Sony won't pass up the opportunity of giving its most critically acclaimed franchise this generation both 3D and Move support.

Dno4722d ago

Move is dead when and only when it stops selling... sony sold 8 million controllers its alive and well.

Biggest4722d ago

There are a few must have titles with full Move support. If you don't want to use the Move with them it's your call. There is no way you can say that the Move has no titles right now with Heavy Rain, Killzone 3, SOCOM, and MAG all having full integration. Sony isn't going to make a full slate of Move ONLY titles because, well, they don't have to. That's the beauty of Move. Yes, they are making Move only titles. No, they don't have to make a ton of Move only titles because the Move works well with other titles. Nintendo learned early on that making games for the Wii-Mote ONLY is a bad idea. Sony is doing what is known to work. The Move is only in trouble now that the PSN is back. When the Move gets more exclusive AND integrated titles, there will be something else in trouble according to websites like CVG.

LOGICWINS4722d ago (Edited 4722d ago )

"There is no way you can say that the Move has no titles right now with Heavy Rain, Killzone 3, SOCOM, and MAG all having full integration."

Who said the Move has NO titles? I'm saying that the Move currently lacks a title that would make the average joe run out and buy a $130 control scheme.

Lets say your at Gamestop and you just bought KZ3...do you HONESTLY believe that MOST people would spend $130 on a Move bundle and Nav controller and ADAPT to a new control scheme when they can spend $0 and use the DS3, a control scheme that they are already used to?

lowcarb4722d ago (Edited 4722d ago )

"sony sold 8 million controllers its alive and well."
8 million sold...When was this?

I'm thinking more like 800,000 thousand to possibly 2 million. Either provide some links or quit lying.

@biggest, Those are not move exclusive games. Right now it's simply an optional controller no different then plugging your 360 controller into the PS3 and using it instead.

LOGICWINS4722d ago (Edited 4722d ago )

^^Yeah, I'd like the link to that too.

Found it: http://ps3.ign.com/articles...

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SoapShoes4722d ago

@lowcarb... You living under a rock? It was reported that Move sold over 8 million a little over a month ago.

lowcarb4722d ago

Well call me surprised for that many Move controllers sold. Good for Sony if true and its gamers which will see exclusive Move titles made for it soon.

Oner4722d ago (Edited 4722d ago )

@ Logicwins I posted this a while back (now a couple of months ago) about PS Move being integrated in UC3 (additional alternative not mandatory) ~

"A rep from NaughtyDog was at my GF's College for an orientation/scouting event and was asked a few questions by the students/perspective hiree's about UC3. The rep answered that it's in development & that it will also have support for PS Move. I am not saying this is 100% concrete evidence, but this should be expected...hopefully we will get more info soon"

kikizoo4722d ago (Edited 4722d ago )

"Right now it's simply an optional controller no different then plugging your 360 controller into the PS3 and using it instead. "

Lol, are you really serious ?

it's just stupid, since the gameplay is completly different...best motion controler available, since you can play real games, made for controler and motion controler...and it's accurate !

"no must have"

misinformed people don't know that sport champion, the fight, are the more immersive and realistic spots games available, and the shooter and others are really cool (moves compatibles title are obviously others must have)

by the way, cvg show us again their real nature :)

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NYC_Gamer4722d ago

its waste of time in my opinion because it has no real support original software wise

Redempteur4722d ago

150 games disagree with you

NYC_Gamer4722d ago (Edited 4722d ago )

@Redempteur

i mean real good quality PSMove,only titles not games with thrown on support.

i'm not going to spend 150 for that kind of lazy support just to play titles that work well on ds3

Redempteur4721d ago

there are already good move games ..there aren't much MOVE -ONLY titles because move is mostly an alternative ..and it's an alternative that works pretty well if you give it a chance ..

it's also easier to motivate buyers if they have a stock of games ready to be used with ..

LOGICWINS4722d ago

^^I think Sony should have waited to release Move this year...when we might ACTUALLY have exclusive Move games that are actually worth buying. The only reason they released it last year was to get the jump on Kinect...which proved futile since Kinect is a sales monster right now.

DigitalRaptor4722d ago

The sales gap between Kinect and Move is not huge considering Microsodt's massive marketing campaign.

Although Move has been well supported so far, I would be looking at Sony's E3 conference in regards to the PlayStation Move killer-app: Sorcery, that mystery flashlight game or some other amazing third-party implementation.

Urrakia344722d ago

What must-have title does Kinect have exactly?

NobleGamer4722d ago

Move was in trouble from the get go people percieved it as a wii knock off and its just tacked onto games which clearly don't need it.

However Kinect is doing the rounds and becoming fastest selling electronic hardware of all time. But its full of shovelware and crap casual games

Child of Eden looks good, Maybe E3 MS will announce more hardcore games for kinect.

the_kutaragi_baka4722d ago (Edited 4722d ago )

Move is a gimmick and Sony know it. If the consumer wants a Wii like experience then they’ll buy a Wii. Simple as.

SoapShoes4722d ago (Edited 4722d ago )

It's more advanced... That's like saying if people want an EyeToy like experience they'd just buy a PS2. You aren't making much sense and with Move at 8+ million and Kinect at 10+ million your argument holds no water.

MariaHelFutura4722d ago

I needs some games based around it that are the quality of Sonys other titles.

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PR_FROM_OHIO4722d ago

I guess since PSN is back up the media needs more negative shit to say about PS3!!!

ALFAxD_CENTAURO4722d ago (Edited 4722d ago )

Lol, bad day for the haters now the PSN is going back.

There are more Games for PS Move, leaked gameplay and images:
http://img109.imageshack.us...
http://i262.photobucket.com...
http://i39.tinypic.com/4vg0...
http://i40.tinypic.com/2i87...

Also Sorcery. Can't wait for E3, Sony will deploy a lot of megatons.

But the media still ignore the good news.

Quagmire4721d ago

I hope Sorcery and Child of Eden deliver.

And has there been any more news on that Alan-Wake-type Move game? Seems intriguing, with an appropriate use for the Move.

Silly gameAr4722d ago

What I was thinking and people jumped right on it.

TheOneWhoKillsYou4722d ago

Nope, I just feel like its going to be like when the PS3 first started: No games, but good tech.

elite-shot4722d ago

This guy is a dumbass.. heavy rain and killzone play beautifully with the move!

DelbertGrady4722d ago

...and even better without it.

LOGICWINS4722d ago (Edited 4722d ago )

But most would say that it plays better with the DS3...thats the issue. Why spend $130 on a Move bundle with a Nav controller and LEARN how to adapt to playing with Move when you can spend $0 and keep playing with the DS3, a control style that your ALREADY adapted to?

Sony needs to introduce games that make people say, "WOW..I need to buy Move!" I expect Sorcery and UC3 to be the first steps.

The fact that "Heavy Rain and Killzone play beautifully with the Move" IS NOT the point. The point is...how is Sony going to convince the mainstream that this control scheme is worth over $100 extra.

Also, how is Sony going to convince people who ALREADY have Kinect, to buy a second motion control scheme?

Sony has to REALLY step up the advertising and bring out some games worth buying if they want Move to succeed. If UC3 doesn't end up supporting Move, then there gunna miss out on a huge opportunity.

@BrianG- Yes, CHOICE is better than no choice...but I'm pretty sure after investing tens of millions of dollars into Move, Sony WANTS its audience to actually ADOPT Move.

CHOICE is great for gamers, but people actually need to buy the thing for Sony to benefit. Right now, Move saleswise is NOT doing as well as it should be doing.

BrianG4722d ago

Logically UC3 doesn't make sense for YOUR argument, since it sees move enabled games play better with the DS3. At least that is what your arguing.

But I would say a CHOICE is better than no choice. Especially for those who have bought the Move controller. Free integration without having to purchase a special copy (Minus RE5 with the Gold Edition BS) or being forced to used Move in blockbuster titles like KZ3.

In my mind, KZ3, Socom 4, Heavy Rain, etc.. play just fine with move. I don't feel I'm sacrificing much if anything at all in most of those titles.

But everyone has their own opinions I suppose.

Ddouble4722d ago (Edited 4722d ago )

But in a lot of interviews with developers for upcoming games, I've noticed them asked about move support. I'm not a FPS player but there were lots of people who said the Move is now there preferred choice for playing these games. The sharpshooter sounds like it's just a better experience but not better than the DS3.

So if it improves the gameplay or experience then why not buy it. It's only an initial investment for many games with more in the pipeline.

The killer apps do need to come but for now it's doing a good job.

Seraphemz4722d ago

Why does SONY have to convince kinect owners? That doesnt make sense....

NateCole4722d ago

LOGICWINS?. More like LOGICFAIL.

Find out what these words means.

1. Alternative
2. Variety.

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mastiffchild4722d ago

Are people forgetting the VERY different roles Move and Kinect have earmarked by their respective owners? Kinect was tantamount, in MS' own words-a new console. They spent on it like a new console in R&D AND in advertising where I've seen huge sums talked of when Kinect's ad budget was in question and they had to sell huge numbers just to offset these facts.

sony, on the other hand never had such lofty goals for Move, didn't push it in anything like the same way and have said all along it WAS about choice and offering gamers something on top of PS3 rather than instead of it. Kinect wasn't ever meant for the hardcore-not yet anyway and the ads tell you that better than anything else while Sony has Move in Socom, Killzone and Capcom has it in RE5 alongside the sports sims and party games expected of motion control systems. Sony plainly ARE offering Move as a choice with another way into core games for a different demographic used to motion controls whereas Kinect was about wowing a different and, imho, a total non gamer crowd first and foremost with the attempt to get them into games still to come(though supposedly in the pipeline we just have to see how you will get away from on rails experiences yet).

Sony and MS had totally different aims and expectations and unless we know the before release projections we don't know how successful either has been. Kinect sold well at launch but the games haven't been selling so well since and we have no idea if Move had any impact AT ALL on KZ3 etc sales. What we do know , though, is that MS spent heavily on this and got the sales they needed and Sony, who didn't spend anything like as much possibly didn't need to sell an amazing number and 8million could be fine.

I think it's too early to call either a success or failure(always said the second Xmas would show, by the number of Kinect enabled games sold how long term successful it might be)right now and by the start of next year with more true games for both due out before then, may well tell us more. Even then they don;'t bear comparison if they weren't meant to do the same thing.

WooHooAlex4722d ago

Everyone knew PlayStation Move wasn't going to get a lot of exclusive games. Especially first party games. Even when they unveiled it, Sony said they wanted to give gamers a choice on how they play the game.

So no, I don't think its dead. I think its serving the exact purpose that they said it would.

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Air Conflicts: Secret Wars - PlayStation Move's Best Kept Secret

Air Conflicts: Secret Wars debuted in 2011, and later updated for modern consoles. However, it's the PlayStation 3 edition that stands out.

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Why the PlayStation Move Failed

Sony's PlayStation Move may not have been able to contend with Nintendo's Wii, but it paved the way for PlayStation VR's success story.

SullysCigar949d ago

I use them most days and have for years 🤷🏻‍♂️

They're definitely way past a needed update, but I've got a tonne of fun out of them, so they haven't failed me.

bouzebbal949d ago

The best motion control platform it's so intuitive.. Died due to lack of support from Sony.. It had some amazing games

thorstein949d ago

They are used constantly for PSVR games. So, no they haven't failed. Neither has PSVR (or VR in general.)

Bigman4k949d ago (Edited 949d ago )

The article was talking about why it ps move failed before psvr came along

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH949d ago

It failed because it sucked plain and simple.

LOGICWINS949d ago

I feel that's a bit harsh. To this day, playing Killzone 3's campaign with PS Move/Sharpshooter gun combo is the most fun/immersive experience I've ever had with an FPS.

I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be, but it didn't "suck".

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH949d ago

It most definitely sucked. You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible. The entire motion control fad was a waste of resources and time. Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it...

Minute Man 721949d ago

@SPEAK

The Move was better that the Wii mote. If the Wii was anywhere accurate as the Move was you could say the Wii was better. Sure it sold boatloads but was it really played consistently??

yeahokwhatever949d ago

I played it in 3D with the move gun on a 100 inch projector and it BLEW MY MIND. I was exhausted, but i finished the campaign standing there.

SullysCigar949d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming"

Just no. Games release most weeks (for years now) that support Move controllers. Some ONLY use Move controllers.

Look, I get you're not a fan, but if you're going to rant, at least inform yourself in advance.

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LordoftheCritics949d ago

I would say both Move and Kinect weren't supported properly.

Sony and MS abandoned what could have been amazing.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH949d ago

Kinect sucked too. I would say Kinect may have been cool had it worked as intended but it was ahead of it's time. Both Kinect and Move are gimmicks nothing more. I honestly don't see why Sony still implements "motion controls" recent controllers. Who really uses that crap? And to play what?

Profchaos949d ago

I so t think Sony abandoned the move it's technically repurposed and still supported on the ps5 just for VR

RedDevils949d ago

Kinect should be kept as media interactive features.

LordoftheCritics949d ago (Edited 949d ago )

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH
Again if it was supported right.

Where even a fast click of my fingers could get an immediate in game response.

It feels trash because we have been shown or lived with bad versions of gesture based tech. Think Minority Report fast. That could be something.

''You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible.''

No one is acting like it was special, I said it could be amazing.

''I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be''

Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game and then we can discuss profits.

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SPEAKxTHExTRUTH949d ago

I don't deal in "what if". It wasn't supported right and even if it was it was still a gimmick.

thorstein949d ago

"Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game"

You just described every AAA PSVR game. And even the indies have incredible integration. No Man's Sky VR is insanely good.

Silly gameAr949d ago

And, you can act like it was horrible, but I had a blast with my Move. I had the whole collection of House of the Dead, Dead Space Extraction, and RE Darkside Cronicles, The Fight, and Socom 4, and I would play the hell out of those games I even beat a playthrough of the Resistance 3 campaign with the Move. Getting drunk and playing with friends was a freaking blast.

You can pretend that you had a move and played it all you want SPeak the Truth, but it was accurate, and usually on point. I hate when people act like they've played something just to trash it, when they really just have a vendetta, and think the Move is easy prey for your hate.

Minute Man 721949d ago

Wait you can play Dead Space with the Move?? I need it

Orchard949d ago

“You can pretend that you had a move”

I love this crazy idea that if someone has something bad to say about hardware/software - they must be lying about owning it and clearly do not own it!

Because all hardware and software has a 100% approval rating from all purchasers…

P_Bomb949d ago (Edited 949d ago )

Shoot I forgot about Dead Space Extraction and Umbrella Chronicles. Had those too. Still do (digital).

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH949d ago

I have a vendetta against Move? Lmao that's the most ridiculous comment I've read today. I didn't buy it because like I said motion controls are gimmicks. I had a Wii and it was decent enough but a gimmick although successful. I had a Kinect and it too was trash. Don't act as if you know what I have and haven't owned. Move was nothing more than a Wiimote ripoff

yeahokwhatever949d ago

SO MANY really great experiences for the Move. The Fight was excellent!

Silly gameAr949d ago (Edited 949d ago )

@Minute Man

There was a game called Dead Space Extraction that you could play the Move with.

@Orchard. Please don't reply to me, because every time I say something to you, I magically end up restricted. So, just ignore me like I ignore you, so there will be no hurt feelings, please.

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Vanfernal949d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it..."

That is demostrably false.... Most VR games have motion controls and the PSVR uses the Move controllers.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH949d ago (Edited 949d ago )

VR games have a controller most of the time not some magic wand. And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect. I'm not a fan of VR either. A controller and a couch is all I need for my gaming needs.

Vanfernal949d ago

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH

"And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect."

PSVR LITERALLY uses the Move controllers. Now it's just obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. You're saying Move failed and nobody uses it anymore when it's an integral part of PSVR and is still being used in 2021.

ScootaKuH949d ago

It didn't suck. It worked but the games just weren't there, that's why it failed.

Father__Merrin949d ago

The move was excellent it was 1 to 1 precise time crisis was a joy to play aswell as sports champions it didn't hit mainstream as it was an addon unlike Nintendo wiimote

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Godmars290949d ago

Lack of games that proved the concept that 3rd parties could then copy en masse?

Silly Mammo948d ago

I wish that someone would have made a proper boxing game. I still have a blast with the Sports Champions boxing, but to have a boxing game that was more in-depth would have been awesome.

Dario_DC948d ago

Try Creed for PSVR, it's brilliant

OMGitzThatGuy949d ago

Because it was a uninspired ripoff of the Wii controller without the Nintendo library to back it and didn't try to put any real effort into development such as getting their top developers to make games for it and instead gave tech demos disguised as games to their least talented developers so the best can focus on single player only games.

Ryushaa949d ago

Except the Move was an idea roughly implemented in the PS2. Yes, I'm serious.
Just search on youtube: PlayStation 2 - Motion Controller (2004)

Nonetheless, just like the whole Wii, it was more of a gimmick than a proper input evolution in games.

jukins949d ago

Exactly. Its funny time and time again sony is the first innovate. Often at its own peril. Like your example the move started on ps2 taken advantage of by nintendo. Sony buys gakai for game streaming only for other companies to overtake them.

Profchaos949d ago

Are you talking about the gametrak on os2 which used strings to track your hand position I used to have this and a gold game it was awesome but the game itself sucked if it had integration with tiger woods or something it would be way better the tracking was excellent even back then as it wasn't using guesswork.
However the game was very forgiving and no way to turn it harder and no licensed players or courses hurt it.

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yeahokwhatever949d ago

99% of the Wii's games were "shovelware", in fact, I think thats what started that phrase..

EvertonFC949d ago

Socom, killzone, resistance and tiger wood 14 were great with the move but agree lacked more games.

yeahokwhatever949d ago

There were plenty of games and I'm glad that not every game became a Move game.

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These PS3 Games are Going to get Really Expensive

Could you get rich by investing in PS3 games? Almost definitely not. Can you make a few bucks by flipping PS3 games over the years? Yeah, sure! It wouldn’t even be that difficult. But let’s face it: Once these games are in your collection, you’re probably keeping them forever.

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CDbiggen952d ago

There's a reason I didn't buy most of these when they came out.

MadLad952d ago

After a game's multiple generations old, and can't be had new at a reasonable price, that's when I see nothing wrong with emulation.

What's the point of paying someone scalper prices when the dev/publisher isn't even benefiting from it?

mkis007951d ago

Emulation doesn't stop a games physical box from becoming collectible.

Knightofelemia952d ago

I paid $30 for SH Downpour on PS3 now it's around $70-$85 Canadian Lolipop Chainsaw I paid $15 and it has really gone up in price. I wonder if Transformers War and Fall of Cybertron will go up in price two of the best Transformers games every made.

neutralgamer1992952d ago

In 5 years time all those games will be worth at least $150 to $200 that you listed

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neutralgamer1992952d ago

Ever since Sony announced that they would shut down PS3 store these prices have skyrocketed and even though Sony backtracked now most gamers realize that it's a matter of time before the PlayStation 3 store is shut down. If you want these games get them while you can even if digital because once that story shut down the physical prices will just go crazy high we saw that already

And many of these games did not sell like crazy amounts so they are limited number of copies available for sale at any given time

MadLad952d ago

Folklore is a game I've always really wanted to play, but I got a PS3 late in the generation, and it was already really expensive to find, being it didn't exactly sell well, therefore was already kind of a collector's item.

Kept hoping I'd find a cheap copy randomly at stores and flea markets, but never happened.

franwex952d ago

I got mine for $5 at Walmart like 10 years ago. I have yet to play it.

neutralgamer1992951d ago

It was available at GameStop for a while for under $20. Don't know har happened but GameStop started to sell their used games based on ebay prices it seems

You can still find it for around $60-70 and which in my opinion is a good price for a game that will be worth double if not triple that in next 5 years

Mr Logic951d ago

Have you considered modding your PS3? Neither Sony or the dev would be getting money from that Folklore purchase. Kind of a victimless crime at that point.

MadLad951d ago (Edited 951d ago )

@neutral

Honestly, I just want to actually give the experience a try. I'm not someone who would buy it at a premium just to potentially rip someone off down the road.
I mean, there are collectors out there and if paying a couple hundred dollars is worth it to them then more power to them, but I'm not one to be on either end of that exchange.

I know it's taboo, but I might dig in and see the state of PS3 emulation on PC. I have a good PC, so it might be able to power through the often times poor performance, being PS3 is known to be hard to emulate.

I've never emulated anything past the PS2/Dreamcast but, as I said in my first post, I don't see anything wrong with emulation if the game you want to play can only be had used, with no money going to the creators.

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