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PS3 hacker reveals Sony’s three step “epic save” fix

Gamer.Blorge writes, "A notorious PS3 hacker has commented on Sony’s latest firmware update to fix the piracy issue on the console. Apparently the company has a broad overarching strategy that may be an “epic save.”"

Gamer.Blorge writes, "KaKaRoToKS recently tweeted that he believes Sony is implementing a fool-proof three step solution which should completely fix the exploit discovered by the hackers."

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Nitrowolf24787d ago (Edited 4787d ago )

and they said it could never be fixed
unhackable? nothing is, but i bet it will be some time now before they can actually hack the FW again. They still haven't done it with 3.56 and that's been out for some time now.

so where are all those people who said Sony can't patch this up because it would render all past games useless?

I agree with KaKaRoToKS statement, people (Hackers) should be fine with what they have. No reason for them to be online ruining the community.

MintBerryCrunch4787d ago

the problem is that the patches that they have implemented so far since 3.55 should have been done when the console launched....to have such a huge security flaw only took away from making ACTUAL firmware updates that bring new features to the console, instead of security patch after security patch

insomnium24787d ago

Well we did get cloud savings just now didn't we?

ksense4787d ago

god I still remember those days when so many people were laughing at Sony and kept taunting that they can't do anything about it and that it cannot be fixed via software update and needs a hardware revision and they should start looking to bring the next console lol. This should be a slap in their faces lol

FailOverFail4787d ago

Well you need to remember the only way they broke the PS3 is because they stole a key to "open up the system". So Sony couldn't have anticipated this that far back. They have a track record of what, 4-5 years of the PS3 being completely secure? Then suddenly someone is reported to have stolen a certain "key to the PS3" of sorts and the PS3 is hacked.

And I'm not going to lie, after playing some PS3 games online, I'd much rather get this problem out of the way first before they add any new features. But look, Sony went above and beyond and gave us Cloud Saving when they could have just pumped out a security FW update instead.

Btw, if you had a brain you would know to blame the hackers for Sony having to push these updates. If they avoided hacking the PS3, we wouldn't need them.

sikbeta4787d ago

@Mint

The important thing is that Sony could fix this, also there goes the hackers with their arrogant attitude like that failoverflow group talking about fail and flaws and how Sony would never be able to fix this and stuff, but they couldn't go far into hacking by their own "merits", if the root-key or whatever wasn't stolen in first place, they sure would be trying with no success :P

MaxXAttaxX4787d ago

These people need to get a life.

Istanbull4787d ago

GLORY TO SONY, GLORY TO HELGHAST, DEATH TO THE ISA!

rbrtchng4787d ago

Yeah MintBerryCrunch! Every single piece of technology should be released absolutely hack-proof. Sony's stupid for creating the ONLY piece of tech that was hack-able.

/sarcasm

KillerBBs4787d ago

Hey! I didn't give you permission to use my kids photo.

DAS6924786d ago

Let's not forget... it took hackers all the way until 3.55 to get it right, and the system is well above maturing now... so it's not like it's something they knew about the whole time... thus the term "patch".

Amplitude4786d ago

*reads MintBerryCrunch's comment"
*Sigh*

*reads KillerBBs comment*
lol. damn that was unfunny xD
*Closes browser*

Lawliet4786d ago

Believe it or not failoverflow or geohot probably ain't the first to discover the exploit. I certainly believe that there are other groups already successfully cracked the PS3 way before them, but just like every professional hackers they just want to sharpen up their skills not start up a damage control or a fame whore. IF you truly call yourself a black hat you should have know the first oath! Never reveals urself in public!

failoverflow and geohot might have an extend of technically knowledge, but they lack common sense.. Revealing themselves through youtube, posting their conference and lame raps saying WE HACK THIS NOW WHAT YOU GONNA DO?! Think about it in first place they hacked it simply for a lame excuse cause they want their OtherOS back, like wut?! They are just bunch of childish brats.. These people won't go far..

JackBNimble4786d ago (Edited 4786d ago )

Let's just hope that what KaKaRotoks says has some merit....I've had enough of these so called hackers and all the BullShit they've caused.

what's the point anyway in hacking/cracking the ps3 when you can do so much more on a pc?

OneSneakyMofo4786d ago

Just like the 360 was so secure at the beginning of their console launch... oh wait.

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Tony-Red-Grave4787d ago

what i love is how when sony gave them the option of either updating their ps3s or staying a FW back without the ability to access psn they strted trying to hack it but now they have that same option and their scared. all this could've been avoided in fact they contridict the reason to have even hacked the ps3 at all.

think about it they wantd OS they could've kept and ran homebrew there and have been in the same situation as now only less suing because with this sony has f'd them up.

rbrtchng4787d ago

I agree. If hackers really weren't trying to pirate and just wanted to homebrew and people actually only wanted that, then they would've have tried to exploit the OtherOS for piracy, and the OtherOS would be an awesome feature with tons of homebrew features, and these hackers would still be able to play on the PSN.

Tony-Red-Grave4787d ago

in case no oine understood what i ment il clear it up abit :)

if we look back at when sony removed OS they had given users two options: keep OS but lose the ability to go play on psn or update and lose OS but in return you can game online. well if hackers hadn't tried to hack the ps3 the users who bought a jailbreak wouldn't need one instead they'd be running their games off OS like originally intended.

now if we look back a few articles they said, failoverflow as well, they didn't care about online gaming they only wanted homebrew and OS when they could've just not updated and kept both without having any problems what so ever with sony. no instead they hacked the ps3 released the jailbreaks got sued for it got fined, im prety sure they didnt release OS, got noobs on psn ruining everyones online experince and pirated games.

oh aside from that they tried to hack themselves back onto psn and would've used a brand new ps3s console ID to do it. as youu guys see they onlyu did what they did for the same reason geohot did, mind you he took most of the credit in the end, their all attentiom whores.

SoapShoes4787d ago

If nothing is unhackable, then nothing is unfixable. ;)

miyamoto4786d ago (Edited 4786d ago )

so you mean any hack can be hacked also?

Hackers vs. Hackers

wow this world is going to be pretty set for Hacked Life!

tacosRcool4787d ago

hacking on a console ruins the experience for all, including those who have nothing to do with it

Electroshocked4786d ago

LG and now this, looks like Sony is having a great year so far.

SephireX4786d ago

@FailOverFlow
Take off your fanboy goggles and think. Sony made it possible for the root key to be extracted by the softweare they included in the PS3 at launch. That being the OtherOs feature. The key was not stolen. It was found. Hackers are going to hack and take advantage of loop holes. Thus, it is Sony's fault that the PS3 was hacked. They shouldn't have included the OtherOs feature in the first place but they did and have paid the price. A lot of people will stay offline and pirate costing devs money. That wouldn't be the case if Sony didn't include OtherOS. Its as simple as that.

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OGharryjoysticks4787d ago

So if it's fixed what does this mean for Geohot since his hack is no longer aplicable?

theonlylolking4787d ago

It has already happened so it still counts.

RedDevils4787d ago

so if he won, or if he free to go, the hacker scene will be back to square one lol

TABSF4787d ago (Edited 4787d ago )

Very good for Sony.

One thing is for sure though, no software ever written is 100% secure.

And why are the mentioning piracy, these people cracked PS3 for running Apps and experimentation (Jailbreak) not gaming.

These guys probably have kickass PCs, why would they want or need to play PS3 games.

@ kesense

Well there is over 20 Million PS3s that are on version 3.55 or earlier.
Also Sony has implemented a hardware measure for extra protection, why wouldn't they.

Mmmkay4787d ago

20 million ? who's ass did you pull that out from?

TABSF4787d ago (Edited 4787d ago )

Fail0verflow's ass :)

Don't go there its gets really messy... :/

dead_eye4786d ago

The article mentions piracy. It says the first CF ever released was to copy games.
"KakARoToKS is a notorious PS3 hacker known for releasing the first custom firmware after the console was hacked. The custom firmware allowed others to pirate games on the console, which has become an uphill cat and mouse chase between Sony and the hackers."

No OtherOS just piacy.

Istanbull4786d ago

how the f*ck do u know there are 20 million PS3s on 3.55 or earlier?

If nothing is unhackable, then nothing is unfixable.

littlebigmarcpsps34787d ago (Edited 4787d ago )

LOL
yet after 2 weeks
people will crack it
its not 100% secure this is just for 3 or 4 weeks
PS3 fanboys here can kiss SONY ass all they want

jut4204787d ago (Edited 4787d ago )

Right because the main hacker on the scene just said Sony secured it and he is not going to try to hack this

Mmmkay4787d ago

why is 3.56 still not hacked ? it's been more than 2 weeks... ? effing troll!

RedDevils4787d ago (Edited 4787d ago )

@Mmmkay because the 3.56 is the same shit as the 3.55, it's basically useless, unless they can't find a way to hack the 3.60 they will probably hack the 3.56 in about a month from now

annus4786d ago

@Mmmkay

Why would they hack it? What new feature did it add? Oh that's right, nothing.

There were ways to bypass shit and connect to PSN with 3.55, so it was pointless updating to the newer firmware that did nothing.

awesomeperson4787d ago

Can I ask...

Why do you WANT the PS3 to be hacked? Do you pirate or simply a fanboy?

Its better for all of us if these hackers GTFO even if they claim its for homebrew of course people will use it to hack, cheat and make other people miserable (MW2) and of course pirate games.

Not to mention Sony has to pour money into fixing hacks which could be used for other things.

buckley4787d ago

3.56 has already existed for more than 2 weeks, my friend, and is not hacked.

The PS3 existed for 4-5 completely hack-less until the "key" was stolen.

No "key," no hack. Apparently they've managed to build a pretty darn secure console.

Orionsangel4787d ago

Yeah well you can kiss hacker ass all you want. This isn't about kissing the ass of any particular company. It's about being able to play games on a secure service without having these asshole hackers fucking around with it. Such as cheating in COD and getting free trophies and banning who ever they want. Mess with the console all you want, but lay off the service!

SSKILLZ4786d ago

Wow wow wow ! Who let you out of the cage.

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies14d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken14d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga14d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken14d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6413d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long13d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197213d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic13d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12513d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91313d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer13d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91313d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit13d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher14d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6913d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit13d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher14d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken14d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197213d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic13d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2313d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218313d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder14d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts14d ago

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades20d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken20d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades19d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii19d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit21d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos21d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9521d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia21d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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