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Sony Move Creator Richard Marks on the Future of Motion Control (But He Doesn’t Call it That)

So, is it a fad?

Richard Marks, who created the Sony Move, said no we’ve just gotten started.

“I don’t call it motion-control, even though Sony does. We are adding a level of finesse to gaming that hasn’t been there before. By calling it motion-control, it’s selling it short,” he said.

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Xfanboy4796d ago (Edited 4796d ago )

let us hope not! I rather use a controller for most games.

@BELOW yeah so is this.. at least This has 2 joy sticks plus buttons! That makes more sense!
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NAGNEWS4796d ago

but i really hope they change the nextgen PScontroller design, a little softer would be awesome

deerain4796d ago

Lets hope we get a choice of either cos i cant stand the DS controller for fps but it is good for other games

Lamarthedancer4796d ago (Edited 4796d ago )

I Hope not. I like the PS Move but I don't want it to become the main thing and selling point of the PS4, same goes for Kinect and the next Xbox.

I don't see why people who love the normal controller and are real gamers have to move on and be forced into motion controll just because Sony/Microsoft want gameing to become more Mainstream

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Lamarthedancer4796d ago (Edited 4796d ago )

"The traditional controller is intimidating, so this is addressing that audience, but it is also addressing the same core gaming audience"

How is it intimidating...it isn't a knife wielding hoodie.

Motion control will never take over the controler, it's not broken so why try and fix it and try to find new ways to move on from it.

Kon4796d ago

I agree with you. For the, the traditional controller is my first option when playing any game. Motion controllers are just an distant option.

I think casual gamers benefit more from this whole motion controller gaming. Even if move has some hardcore titles to play, like Killzone 3, i think the "hardcore" gamer will choose the normal controller.

Maybe, after some time, this reality will change. But i don't see this happening soon.

deerain4796d ago

I like to consider myself as a hardcore gamer and I prefer the move on killzone 3, I came from a PC gaming background and I find the controllers very inaccurate for these games.

I for one will play all fps with the move given the choice

gypsygib4796d ago

For Killzone 3 the Move is much harder to learn how to control so casuals would probably prefer a standard controller. The learning curve is high but once you get it down, it's far superior because of the accuracy and the movement is the same.

In a sense, Move is more hardcore for FPS games - harder to learn, better to play with.

Blad3star4796d ago (Edited 4796d ago )

"How is it intimidating...it isn't a knife wielding hoodie."

Play Killzone or Halo one day and give the controller to your mom or some one who is not used to playing video games and I can guarantee you that they will be looking down or up stuck in one corner : )

I tried to get my GF into Gears and took the time to explain to her what every button does only to have her give up and ask me if we can play Mario and what happened to the old A and B controller days.

When I first played Halo CE i was a little intimated with the two analog sticks, so I can see where some one who is not use to playing video would not want to play games that consist of 8 buttons.

gypsygib4796d ago

Lol, my GF can't play FPS shooters, she often just spins around looking strait up or down. She plays her brothers old 360 60 gig (he got a PS3 and didn't really go back) and loves the Fable series, it seems it's the only game she can complete.

Seferoth754796d ago

Some games just arent possible with such a limited control scheme that is offered by controllers. As games advance controllers will have to improve in some way.

Let's not forget one the first controllers was 1 button and a up and down switch some didnt even offer a button at all. It took time to get to the controllers we have today. Same thing will need to happen for motion controllers.

Mr Tretton4796d ago

Move severly needs compelling exclusive software, not this tack on to shooters nonsense. I'm disappointed and unimpressed with Move so far.

deerain4796d ago

Your right in that they need to make more games that use the move in betters ways, but I will have to disagree with shooters.
I think it should be implemented in shooters as an alternative control method it works well just like it should be implemented in RTS games as an alternative control, whats wrong with that ?

GodofSackboy4796d ago

Why can't they tack it onto shooters? Why is that a bad thing?

Mr Tretton4796d ago (Edited 4796d ago )

My point is, that's the only thing driving it right now, which is what I'm not interested in. If I wanted an alternative to traditional console gaming it would be key and mouse support. (or Nav + a Sony made PS3 mouse.)

I'm only interested in games born out of the concept rather than the concept just being added to tradition. I personally just do not like playing shooters with motion gadgets.

hellzsupernova4796d ago (Edited 4796d ago )

im pretty keen to see where they go with move hopefully they do spawn some epic titles but i cannot see that happening as the install base isnt really there. like with kinect EVERY xbox comes with one now i cannot buy a new 360 without getting kinect which is a smart move by microsoft gives them very high sale numbers and it gives people the opportunity to play it.

Mr Tretton4796d ago

"like with kinect EVERY xbox comes with one now i cannot buy a new 360 without getting kinect"

That's just not true.

Stationfan4796d ago (Edited 4796d ago )

Check out this custom sharpshooter cammo, i'm going to have to make this a weekened project, i hope i pull it off especially the mgs psp camo style.

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Air Conflicts: Secret Wars - PlayStation Move's Best Kept Secret

Air Conflicts: Secret Wars debuted in 2011, and later updated for modern consoles. However, it's the PlayStation 3 edition that stands out.

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Why the PlayStation Move Failed

Sony's PlayStation Move may not have been able to contend with Nintendo's Wii, but it paved the way for PlayStation VR's success story.

SullysCigar953d ago

I use them most days and have for years 🤷🏻‍♂️

They're definitely way past a needed update, but I've got a tonne of fun out of them, so they haven't failed me.

bouzebbal953d ago

The best motion control platform it's so intuitive.. Died due to lack of support from Sony.. It had some amazing games

thorstein953d ago

They are used constantly for PSVR games. So, no they haven't failed. Neither has PSVR (or VR in general.)

Bigman4k953d ago (Edited 953d ago )

The article was talking about why it ps move failed before psvr came along

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH954d ago

It failed because it sucked plain and simple.

LOGICWINS954d ago

I feel that's a bit harsh. To this day, playing Killzone 3's campaign with PS Move/Sharpshooter gun combo is the most fun/immersive experience I've ever had with an FPS.

I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be, but it didn't "suck".

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH954d ago

It most definitely sucked. You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible. The entire motion control fad was a waste of resources and time. Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it...

Minute Man 721954d ago

@SPEAK

The Move was better that the Wii mote. If the Wii was anywhere accurate as the Move was you could say the Wii was better. Sure it sold boatloads but was it really played consistently??

yeahokwhatever954d ago

I played it in 3D with the move gun on a 100 inch projector and it BLEW MY MIND. I was exhausted, but i finished the campaign standing there.

SullysCigar953d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming"

Just no. Games release most weeks (for years now) that support Move controllers. Some ONLY use Move controllers.

Look, I get you're not a fan, but if you're going to rant, at least inform yourself in advance.

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LordoftheCritics954d ago

I would say both Move and Kinect weren't supported properly.

Sony and MS abandoned what could have been amazing.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH954d ago

Kinect sucked too. I would say Kinect may have been cool had it worked as intended but it was ahead of it's time. Both Kinect and Move are gimmicks nothing more. I honestly don't see why Sony still implements "motion controls" recent controllers. Who really uses that crap? And to play what?

Profchaos954d ago

I so t think Sony abandoned the move it's technically repurposed and still supported on the ps5 just for VR

RedDevils954d ago

Kinect should be kept as media interactive features.

LordoftheCritics954d ago (Edited 954d ago )

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH
Again if it was supported right.

Where even a fast click of my fingers could get an immediate in game response.

It feels trash because we have been shown or lived with bad versions of gesture based tech. Think Minority Report fast. That could be something.

''You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible.''

No one is acting like it was special, I said it could be amazing.

''I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be''

Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game and then we can discuss profits.

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SPEAKxTHExTRUTH954d ago

I don't deal in "what if". It wasn't supported right and even if it was it was still a gimmick.

thorstein953d ago

"Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game"

You just described every AAA PSVR game. And even the indies have incredible integration. No Man's Sky VR is insanely good.

Silly gameAr954d ago

And, you can act like it was horrible, but I had a blast with my Move. I had the whole collection of House of the Dead, Dead Space Extraction, and RE Darkside Cronicles, The Fight, and Socom 4, and I would play the hell out of those games I even beat a playthrough of the Resistance 3 campaign with the Move. Getting drunk and playing with friends was a freaking blast.

You can pretend that you had a move and played it all you want SPeak the Truth, but it was accurate, and usually on point. I hate when people act like they've played something just to trash it, when they really just have a vendetta, and think the Move is easy prey for your hate.

Minute Man 721954d ago

Wait you can play Dead Space with the Move?? I need it

Orchard954d ago

“You can pretend that you had a move”

I love this crazy idea that if someone has something bad to say about hardware/software - they must be lying about owning it and clearly do not own it!

Because all hardware and software has a 100% approval rating from all purchasers…

P_Bomb954d ago (Edited 954d ago )

Shoot I forgot about Dead Space Extraction and Umbrella Chronicles. Had those too. Still do (digital).

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH954d ago

I have a vendetta against Move? Lmao that's the most ridiculous comment I've read today. I didn't buy it because like I said motion controls are gimmicks. I had a Wii and it was decent enough but a gimmick although successful. I had a Kinect and it too was trash. Don't act as if you know what I have and haven't owned. Move was nothing more than a Wiimote ripoff

yeahokwhatever954d ago

SO MANY really great experiences for the Move. The Fight was excellent!

Silly gameAr953d ago (Edited 953d ago )

@Minute Man

There was a game called Dead Space Extraction that you could play the Move with.

@Orchard. Please don't reply to me, because every time I say something to you, I magically end up restricted. So, just ignore me like I ignore you, so there will be no hurt feelings, please.

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Vanfernal954d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it..."

That is demostrably false.... Most VR games have motion controls and the PSVR uses the Move controllers.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH954d ago (Edited 954d ago )

VR games have a controller most of the time not some magic wand. And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect. I'm not a fan of VR either. A controller and a couch is all I need for my gaming needs.

Vanfernal953d ago

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH

"And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect."

PSVR LITERALLY uses the Move controllers. Now it's just obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. You're saying Move failed and nobody uses it anymore when it's an integral part of PSVR and is still being used in 2021.

ScootaKuH954d ago

It didn't suck. It worked but the games just weren't there, that's why it failed.

Father__Merrin953d ago

The move was excellent it was 1 to 1 precise time crisis was a joy to play aswell as sports champions it didn't hit mainstream as it was an addon unlike Nintendo wiimote

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Godmars290954d ago

Lack of games that proved the concept that 3rd parties could then copy en masse?

Silly Mammo953d ago

I wish that someone would have made a proper boxing game. I still have a blast with the Sports Champions boxing, but to have a boxing game that was more in-depth would have been awesome.

Dario_DC953d ago

Try Creed for PSVR, it's brilliant

OMGitzThatGuy954d ago

Because it was a uninspired ripoff of the Wii controller without the Nintendo library to back it and didn't try to put any real effort into development such as getting their top developers to make games for it and instead gave tech demos disguised as games to their least talented developers so the best can focus on single player only games.

Ryushaa954d ago

Except the Move was an idea roughly implemented in the PS2. Yes, I'm serious.
Just search on youtube: PlayStation 2 - Motion Controller (2004)

Nonetheless, just like the whole Wii, it was more of a gimmick than a proper input evolution in games.

jukins954d ago

Exactly. Its funny time and time again sony is the first innovate. Often at its own peril. Like your example the move started on ps2 taken advantage of by nintendo. Sony buys gakai for game streaming only for other companies to overtake them.

Profchaos954d ago

Are you talking about the gametrak on os2 which used strings to track your hand position I used to have this and a gold game it was awesome but the game itself sucked if it had integration with tiger woods or something it would be way better the tracking was excellent even back then as it wasn't using guesswork.
However the game was very forgiving and no way to turn it harder and no licensed players or courses hurt it.

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yeahokwhatever954d ago

99% of the Wii's games were "shovelware", in fact, I think thats what started that phrase..

EvertonFC954d ago

Socom, killzone, resistance and tiger wood 14 were great with the move but agree lacked more games.

yeahokwhatever954d ago

There were plenty of games and I'm glad that not every game became a Move game.

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These PS3 Games are Going to get Really Expensive

Could you get rich by investing in PS3 games? Almost definitely not. Can you make a few bucks by flipping PS3 games over the years? Yeah, sure! It wouldn’t even be that difficult. But let’s face it: Once these games are in your collection, you’re probably keeping them forever.

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CDbiggen956d ago

There's a reason I didn't buy most of these when they came out.

MadLad956d ago

After a game's multiple generations old, and can't be had new at a reasonable price, that's when I see nothing wrong with emulation.

What's the point of paying someone scalper prices when the dev/publisher isn't even benefiting from it?

mkis007956d ago

Emulation doesn't stop a games physical box from becoming collectible.

Knightofelemia956d ago

I paid $30 for SH Downpour on PS3 now it's around $70-$85 Canadian Lolipop Chainsaw I paid $15 and it has really gone up in price. I wonder if Transformers War and Fall of Cybertron will go up in price two of the best Transformers games every made.

neutralgamer1992956d ago

In 5 years time all those games will be worth at least $150 to $200 that you listed

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neutralgamer1992956d ago

Ever since Sony announced that they would shut down PS3 store these prices have skyrocketed and even though Sony backtracked now most gamers realize that it's a matter of time before the PlayStation 3 store is shut down. If you want these games get them while you can even if digital because once that story shut down the physical prices will just go crazy high we saw that already

And many of these games did not sell like crazy amounts so they are limited number of copies available for sale at any given time

MadLad956d ago

Folklore is a game I've always really wanted to play, but I got a PS3 late in the generation, and it was already really expensive to find, being it didn't exactly sell well, therefore was already kind of a collector's item.

Kept hoping I'd find a cheap copy randomly at stores and flea markets, but never happened.

franwex956d ago

I got mine for $5 at Walmart like 10 years ago. I have yet to play it.

neutralgamer1992956d ago

It was available at GameStop for a while for under $20. Don't know har happened but GameStop started to sell their used games based on ebay prices it seems

You can still find it for around $60-70 and which in my opinion is a good price for a game that will be worth double if not triple that in next 5 years

Mr Logic956d ago

Have you considered modding your PS3? Neither Sony or the dev would be getting money from that Folklore purchase. Kind of a victimless crime at that point.

MadLad956d ago (Edited 956d ago )

@neutral

Honestly, I just want to actually give the experience a try. I'm not someone who would buy it at a premium just to potentially rip someone off down the road.
I mean, there are collectors out there and if paying a couple hundred dollars is worth it to them then more power to them, but I'm not one to be on either end of that exchange.

I know it's taboo, but I might dig in and see the state of PS3 emulation on PC. I have a good PC, so it might be able to power through the often times poor performance, being PS3 is known to be hard to emulate.

I've never emulated anything past the PS2/Dreamcast but, as I said in my first post, I don't see anything wrong with emulation if the game you want to play can only be had used, with no money going to the creators.

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