5 Things Uncharted 3 Must Avoid

Uncharted 3 Drake's Deception has been officially announced, and the gaming universe is suitably excited. There's every chance Naughty Dog's threequel could become the defining action game this generation, but in order to do so, it mustn't rest on its own laurels. Here are five things Uncharted 3 must avoid.

[theonlylolking]

I 100% disagree with #4. I like having monsters in uncharted. It forced you to change the way you play instead of always shooting at people.

[UP]

I agree as well and it also fits the universe well.

[hay]

Actually monsters in UC universe add a bit fear to the gameplay. I can't say I weren't cautious or concerned where ghouls in first one appeared and they were everywhere.
And though I hated monkeys in second one and prayed that they die quickly, it added to the experience.

Also this is weak article. It kinda doubts in ND talent or says how UC3 should be made with obvious points ND probably know best.
They put 2 invalid points(4, 1) and 3 which previous game did really well, yet UC3 have to avoid them...?

[RedDragan]

Why doesn't gamerzine just leave the job to the developers? They seem to have been doing a good enough job already... I doubt they need some half-known website telling what they should and shouldn't do.

There is reason one is making award winning games and another is just trying to report on those award winning games.

I expect these sites to just review the game, not speak bull about what a Dev needs to do.

[Philoctetes]

Yep, I think we can be about 100% sure that Uncharted 3 is going to have monsters that show up about two-thirds of the way through the game. It wouldn't be an Uncharted game if it didn't have monsters.

[gamerdude132]

Idiot, it's an opinion piece, not a list of demands.

[RedDragan]

Then why should we be interested in this random blokes opinion, telling award winning devs what they should and shouldn't do?

Either way, I am still correct.

[I_find_it_funny]

some kind of monsters and unnatural things are now part of Uncharted series, I think it's ok

[rjdofu]

Agree. Also, if the writer has watched the trailer, he should know that there's more places than desert. Seriously, does he know what he's talking about? And WTF does Mark Wahlberg have to do with UC3 btw?

[NecrumSlavery]

The creatures in the first Uncharted were so friggin' scary. But the when the camera panned up as you were climbing in Nepal mountains, and that beast popped up, I jumped out of my seat. That was a shock. The fantasy part of the UC series is a uniwue feature. It fits completely. It never takes a turn for the retarded.

[BulletToothtony]

I think that ND's DOZENS! of game of the year awards say pretty clearly that they have a good thing going..

Things ND should avoid.. them listening to noob sites telling them to do games like every other developer..

[ChineseDemocracy]

Yeah monsters definitely required a change in tactics. In the first game...

*SPOILERS*

The "cursed" creatures were super agile; I spent most my time running and gunning as opposed to taking cover and firing.

The guardians from the second game almost required you to just plow away at their heads because of the sheer amount of health they had. Another alternative was to kill one, take its crossbow, kill the others, rinse and repeat.

[MerkinMax]

They said, "You have to just have the faith that whatever instincts got you to this point will continue carrying you through as long as you keep listening to them."

I think it is safe to say that we can trust Naughty Dog.

[vickers500]

@RedDragan

So developers shouldn't listen to fan feedback at all? Naughty Dog is just perfect and shouldn't listen to their customer base because they know what we want better than us?

I'm sure if I searched through your comment history I could find a few comments about you telling what other developers need to do. If we left the job up to the developers all the time, then they'd just give us crap after crap game.

I know that around here, people are batsh*t crazy about their consoles and the companies/developers of their favorite consoles, but if you don't understand that not all criticism is bad and in fact some criticism can be good and beneficial to the game, then I feel sorry for you. I'm not saying that developers should cater to every whim of their consumers, but they shouldn't block them out completely as your idiotic comment implies they should.

This site is simply making suggestions as to how to improve the game in their eyes, why do you have a problem with that? Maybe someone should go to every single comment you make about improving a game and tell you to just shut up and leave the job to the developers?

[ReservoirDog316]

Yeah I like the monsters in Uncharted. Fits well and it's part of the story.

Just please, for the love of God, please no giant spiders.

[RedDevils]

3. Only being in the desert

if this guy actually watch the trailer there a little gameplay scene he have not notice

[Galaxia]

Agree with you. The monsters in both Uncharted games were the BEST PART for me. My most memorable Uncharted moments are meeting the monsters in both games.

Cannot wait to see what Uncharted 3's monsters are.

[Bolts]

In Uncharted's genre monsters are a must since we're frequently dealing with the supernatural. Bring on the mummies.

[funkycoldmedina]

Hit disagree by mistake, but gave you bubble. I agree to disagree on #4 as well. The mutants add a change of pace for me in UC series, because hiding behind cover and shooting human AI got repetitive. I really liked the mixing of both human and mutant foes at the same time.

For those that played the original PC Far Cry the mutants were part of the game's experience, because shooting human AI got old quick. I didn't even bother with FC2 being it wasn't Jack Carver and not Far Cry nor the same developers. When developers start taking a minority of complaints into consideration too much the originality of a games fictional world is lost in the sequels. Can't please everyone, look what happened to Resistance 2.

[Kleptic]

Resistance 2 is a perfect example of what you said...fall of man was VERY close to being great, but was obviously hampered by being a rushed launch title...but Insomniac made the mistake of trying to fix every little detail the media complained about...and overall ended up gutting the franchises overall identity...

which is my point...lists like this overall are bad...I can't think of one situation of either Uncharted 2 or 1 where i was annoyed that I got placed on a turret...they never last long, and always offered incredible scripted design (this guy is saying he didn't like the turret on the train taking out the helicopter?...that was one of the most impressive things i've done in a game this generation)...

the sand?...people said the same thing about snow in uncharted 2...it wasn't even a 1/4 of the game...the tech with the snow (and now the sand) makes up for great reveals to show off how impressive the visuals are...but they are not hurting the direction of the game in anyway whastoever...

and the monster stuff...I loved them in both games...because the first 75% of the game set up a story in a way that you simply don't know what to expect...then comes the reveal of what you might be up against the rest of the game...and it changes everything in a good way imo...

both uncharted's are so close to perfect its hard to nit pick...the age old 'well they will focus too much on multiplayer' does NOT apply to ND...the mp component of Uncharted 2 did absolutely nothing to the single player, and ended up giving the game even more replay value...

I'm just saying little write ups like this are pointless...ND isn't some normal developer...they will not screw up...they know exactly what to avoid, exactly what to expand on, and exactly how to impress us...Uncharted 3 will walk away with it just like uncharted 2, and kindly hand everyone else their hat...

[shammgod]

agreed. I would love them to add the ability to be the monsters in MultiPlayer. You could have three teams, good, bad, monsters. I love the addition of monsters. God forbid variety

[N4g_null]

Best comment here hands down I agree and the monster that moves out of frame was almost hitch cock like. I would want to see more of that. The actual battle afterwards isn't much of a play field.

The best way to see this is the fact that it almost feels scripted which is a bad then. You ruin game play and replayabilty with scripts. Lua is not your friend.

Im glad to see you guys are actualy saying what you like now that's very constructive. It can only lead to more people liking the game more.

How about capture the flag like treasure run complete with monsters! I'd play that. Nd really needs to make this one more than a sequel. Great game play helps games age better.

[masterg]

I agree. Monsters is a part of Uncharted.
I'm sure we are going to see mummies of some sort in this one.

[omodis420]

I liked it in the first game, not so much in the second game though, but by no means was it a deal breaker.

[Kleptic]

Yeah I definitely liked the set up of the 'monsters' more in the first game...in the second game they were cool, but a bit overpowered (or at least you where in situations that made them overpowered)...The first game set it up as the only enemy you were forced to run from...making you use gameplay mechanics that are in the game the whole time (and I didn't even know it until that part of the game)...in Uncharted 2 they were just much faster and stronger than other enemies...but the gunplay worked so much better in uncharted 2; that wasn't a bad thing...

but oh well...basically giving uncharted 1 nazi zombies forced it to go downhill from there...I just mean i didn't expect them to be better in uncharted 2...and don't in uncharted 3 either...but both games they were overall great, so i hope they are in the third too...

[Kurisu]

ND did say though that they want Uncharted 3 to be more "realistic", so I can't imagine seeing a return of the monsters. They scared the hell out of me, totally wasn't expecting them...

[Traveler]

I think ND have been moving more away from monsters with each game. In the second game they were even less supernatural. I know, I know, in the first game there was a rational explanation as well, but in the second game it just seemed like they tried to make them even more human and have a less fantastical explanation. I don't think we will necessarily have "monsters" in Uncharted 3. I am sure they will make the right decisions whatever they do.

[nnotdead]

i guess im in the minority with agreeing with #4. the monster almost completely ruined the experience for me. it changed up the gameplay way too much, and i was enjoying what i was doing before hand. it really didn't bother as much in 2, because i was expecting it, and i would think the same 3. i know 3 will have them, and im pretty sure i won't like it, but in certain i'll really enjoy the game.

[Rocket Sauce]

Creatures were fine in Drake's Fortune, but then they just recycled them for the sequel. It felt really lazy of Naughty Dog to do the exact same thing all over again. All these historical mysteries could really be more interesting than monsters, monsters, monsters, you know?

Uncharted is the best thing going today, but if they re-use creatures AGAIN for the third game, I'm gonna bust a nut.

[Spitfire_Riggz]

That is exactly the first thing I thought when I saw that. The monster in Uncharted totally surprised me and literally made me say "OH SHIT"

[delicia]

I think it must avoid other consoles besides PS3

[gameraxis]

those saying uncharted shouldn't incorporate the supernatural... what about the movie this game is most compared to, if not totally inspired by (not the latest Indiana Jones because the UFO ending was just dumb) but the sorcery part when Harrison Ford is hanging on that rope bridge that collapsed and hes getting his heart pulled through his skin by the main antagonist... that subtle level of ancient relics giving power to the one who bestows it is what these kind of games and movies are all about... so i say make it more subtle, like the power of persuasion to whomever wears the forbidden ring, and in the wrong hands could collapse the structured governments and its leaders as we know it...causing total chaos and war amongst everyone. Something like that i think would be the perfect type of drive for the game, saving the world, but not from aliens or monsters... but from some sort of relic or artifact that if in the wrong hands could cause extreme devastation to all, except the wearer, who would then be the greedy antagonist who values power and control over humanity and peace...

[Kon_Artist]

it has to be mummies.

[playboi28]

Is this what qualifies as news now?

[princejb134]

woop woop when i hear a desert i heard mummies=]
uncharted 3 is gonna be excellent
just like the the first 2
when i heard dessert the first thing on my mind was a adventure in pyramids full of traps just like indiana jones but better
cant wait for uncharted 3=]

[I_find_it_funny]

it's already said Uncharted 3 will take place around the world, so no, it's not just sands

[Shackdaddy836]

I kinda hope a big portion is though. I really like that classic Lawrence of Arabia feel.

Like not just in the middle of the desert though.

[koehler83]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that NaughtyDog knows how to make games better than you do.

[UnwanteDreamz]

Yep let me try this.

One thing Uncharted 3 must avoid.

Poorly written blogs that assume to know what Uncharted 3 needs.

[TheTruth89]

STFU, this game will be awesome, even if they put Power Rangers and Barbies inside.

[colonel179]

Hopefully is not divorced Barbie.. They game would be expensive as hell -__-

[GamerSciz]

Sounds like these guys have some gripes with the Uncharted series. Be it as it may, I disagree with all of them except #5. Mark Walhlberg is a no-no. But everything else works fine for Uncharted. On the back of the Jeep during the chase shooting was a ton of fun. The environments have always been different and unique. The multiplayer is still loads of fun and Naughty Dog continues to enhance and support UC2 multiplayer.

[Christopher]

#5 is highly subjective. I know one of the things a lot of people wanted in more than a few games were more vehicle/turret missions. That's why CoD and BC game utilize them.

#4 Again, highly subjective. For me, it made it entirely like Indiana Jones. It's the mystical aspect of treasure hunting. You go in looking for tons of loot, you find an artifact or substance that does something just unheard of. It's really a part of the genre of the story.

#3 We already know it isn't going to be just in the desert. Did you not see the end of the VGA trailer? He's jumping from one building to another, he's running down a hallway away from a rush of water. In the third panel they showed, he's even walking in chest high water while shooting at some opponents.

#2 They didn't do it in the first two, why would they start now?

#1 Only in the movie, if even that. Nolan North has been doing scenes for months now based on the recently movie put out as the behind the scenes of the teaser trailer.

[CranberryPub]

Of course it's subjective, it's an opinion piece. How could it possibly be objective? Unless I said it must avoid lines of code that don't work.

[Christopher]

An opinion piece that says "Here are five things Uncharted 3 must avoid." instead of "In my opinion, here are five things Uncharted 3 must avoid."

Putting it as an opinion piece here doesn't mean you're not speaking from a point of fact rather than sharing your own opinion.

If you want it to be apparent, how about learning to write? Notice how above I used "For me" and "a lot of people" rather than just putting everyone into the same bucket?

Furthermore, someone stating that an item is subjective is not the same as saying you didn't know it was subjective. It's a statement of fact, not accusation. For that one, you might want to not read into what someone writes.

Personally, I think Web writers should really recognize when they write poor articles and use them as learning tools for the future rather than attempting to lash out at general comment makers on their or other sites. I know I've used many of my former IGN articles to do just that.

[Sticky__Rice]

Naughty Gods; They know what makes up a great story. Let's just support them in whatever course of action they take. They make the type of games they like to play; so of course they'll do an amazing job; BTW Still playing uncharted 2; gotta say i can really see why it got so mant GOTY awards; Naughty Gods FTW!

[The Meerkat]

1. Tiger traps
2. Red Barrels
3. Running out of fuel
4. Tropical diseases.
5. Fat Arab man with a strange glint in his eye.

[Greek God]

dont change anything
just a new story and im ready to throw my money at you!

btw. 3 more Trophies and i have Platin in U2 ^^

[Sizzon]

No situational awareness please ND.

[Anderson8]

that's what evasion is for

[PrimordialSoupBase]

Bring some of the open ended level design from multiplayer (really amazing multiple ways to tackle objectives) to singleplayer. Uncharted still hasn't quite achieved that perfect balance of the linear sandbox.

[OhMyGandhi]

1. STOP
2. WITH
3. TOP
4. FIVE
5. LISTS

[Nineball2112]

I see what you did there.

[SnakeMustDie]

1. Neglecting the Campaign for the Multiplayer
2. Removing Chloe and Elena

cant think anymore things to avoid...
The supernatural creatures has already been the staple of the series so i am expecting mummies this time.

[scar20]

Hey guys if you still don't have the uncharted 3 avatar here's the code ANAK-R6N9-5F56 and it still works i just tried it.

[smashman98]

Well heres one thing naughty dog should definitley avoid articles telling them how to do their job.

Ive loved all their games up until this point and i dont see why they should not do it their way

also naughty dog try and avoid Uncharted X: combat racing im not sure it would fit like it did with jak

[visualb]

what a horrible...blog?

1) turrets? thats used to break up the gameplay and is always welcome in my book in ANY game, turrets are a reference to the times of old...

2) Monsters: actually they are humans that have undergone a mutation, and, above all, are essential to the fantasiacle and mysterious nature of uncharted. if you don't want beasts in the last 1/5th of uncharted, you missed the point of the game

3) only desert: this **** didn't even do research. its already been stated U3 will have the most diverse environments from france, to possibly england to desert and under water, so get with it before you write up a horribly misinformed blog post

2) favouring multiplayer - eh...why on earth is this even considered?...this isn't COD or Halo, SP is the MEAT of uncharted

1) nothing to do with the game, and not funny.

horrible HORRIBLE HORRIBLE ARGH whomever approved this...just...ugh

[gam3fr33k]

Hopefully since they're in the desert the game won't be as linear as the previous games. Not to say the linear experiences are bad but it would be nice for us to choose where we go and it affects the story slightly.

[telekineticmantis]

I'm sorry I loved uncharteds sci fi type enemies. I hope they surprise me again. We've had enough games in the past with standard type enemies I hope naughty dog doesn't listen to these type of journalists... but mark wahlberg should definitely be replaced

[Wolf873]

I disagree about the monsters. It gives Uncharted a certain charm. It's like Indiana Jones, everything seems to be grounded in reality but at the last moment Indy would come across a supernatural obstacle: it was fun. Last two games had them, to remove them in the 3rd would take away from the identity of Uncharted games.

[Grodd]

Is he crazy? Monsters were the BEST part in Uncharted 1. I also liked them in the second one.

[VI-BOY]

Must Avoid 1. It must not be on the Virtual Boy

[Blaine]

"Only being in the desert"

This is just complete lack of faith in ND. Their snow tech in U2 was amazing, but that didn't stop them from having a great variety of environments in the game. I'm certain this didn't need to make the list because I know ND wouldn't restrict the variety of environments in U3 just because their sand tech is impressive.

One thing I hope U3 doesn't do:

Force you to kill every single enemy you see. The way the environments are made, and how the story progresses, forces you to kill everyone in your path, and that completely clashes with Drake's "good guy" character. I'd like more stealth in the game--and not just so I can do "stealth kills"! Actual, "I walk right by you and you'll never know and I don't have to break your neck"-stealth.

[jneul]

lol i lolled at the monsters complaint, what is wrong with a challenge for these guys, it seems like they are just wanting to hate on uc, i loved the change in pace, and the monsters scare the heck out of you the first time around

[BrianC6234]

I think I'll leave the game design to Naughty Dog. They've done fine so far. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

[kratosDbest]

I agree,i like monsters in Uncharted,it suits the game well.

[GiantJedi]

The monsters are awsome, and just cause the trailer shows him with sand doesn't mean the whole game is in a desert. Was Uncharted 2 only in snow?

[LittleBigSackboyPS3]

Giant scorpions will be beast !!

[TehCell64]

I hope it avoids being a generic, repetitive third person gears "inspired" game. It should try something new, like Vanquish, my personal goty.

[hiredhelp]

nothing to avoid. except dont listen to other devs you got what it takes. take out peer to peer replace with deadicated servers. thats all we need.

[TheMutator]

mehh anyway gears of war 3 gonna crush uncharted anyway

[SLLCKGT]

I got an idea, how about they remove the requirement to press triangle to pick up ammo. Am I the only one thats outraged by this? ITS AMMO!!! I'm running and shooting of course I need ammo! Has anyone ever stopped and said "no, I got enough ammo, even though that ammo on the ground is free and in no does it effect my agility, I'll just not pick up." Its stupid and retarded, and I can not for the last 2 years figure why on earth they would do that. So many times I'm about to pick up ammo I take half step and instead I pick up another weapon and my current weapons falls into the mix.

[Raoh]

after the success of uncharted and uncharted.. i think naughty dog has this one handled and doesnt need any advice from sites LOL

[ShAkKa]

Point #4 is ridiculous,the zombie levels were probably my favorite chapters on U1.

[floetry101]

I pretty much agree with most, if not all of these points. That can rarely be said for the usual "5 Things" post.

[Bathyj]

Gotta laugh at these clowns that think they know better than Naughty Dog.

Lets face it Gamerzine, if you knew how to make a AAA GotY product, YOU'D be making it.

[metsgaming]

I hope ND stays true to their formula and just keep doing what they have been doing. If they do that uncharted 3 will be epic and im sure they will do just that.

[espiritu604]

THE ONLY THING I WANT TO IMPROVE IS THE MULTIPLAYER

Uncharted 2s multiplayer was generic. its fun especially plunder but it gets boring after a while.

I want different guns and more. I dont want spawning with an ak47 everytime. there should be a heal pack and stuff more game mopdes and more fun. I love the lab, it makes me come to uncharted 2 every weekend.

[Shok]

Poorly written article......

[skottey]

This article does suck. The monsters are OK once you get past the lack of realism. In the second game I was getting mad at first at the monsters with my immediate reaction being, "these are so fake," as if the rest of the game with the 30 feet jumps is realistic. I gave it a few minutes of thought, thinking about the jumping, and realized that even though I am kind of being drawn into the story, the game is pretty far fetched. While Uncharted 1/2 were not in my top 10 or 20 games, they do make you want to finish them and that makes a game worth playing these days.

*spoiler*

What gave the monsters the ability to jump and their strength was even more far fetched than the monsters to begin with. And finding out the monsters weren't monsters at all had a level of comfort, making that part slightly more realistic.

[theballa113092]

I actually liked the monsters in uncharted. And I doubt they will put less effort on the single player over multilayer.