Whilst the jury is still out on whether Gran Turismo 5 is a damn good game or a damp squib, the shipping numbers have come out and they are extremely impressive. Sony has shipped 5.5 million copies to stores worldwide amd whilst this doesnt equal out to over 5 million copies actually being in the hands of consumers, it does give a good indication of how well the title has been selling when demand for stock is so big.
In 12 days the worldwide numbers have hit 5.52 million, a solid head start to it’s previous full home console title, Gran Turismo 4 which sold 10.86 million copies in it’s 5 years since release.
Its not all good news for the series though as along with the sales for GT5, the sales were also announced for the PSP title that came out in October 2009. Sonys handheld console, the PSP, has sold 62 million since release but the Gran Turismo PSP title, that was praised to be a killer app for the device, has only sold 2.24 million copies, including downloads. Seeing how shoppers are also able to get Gran Turismo PSP for free with various PSP Go offers, that’s not an impressive amount of actual monetary sales for the title.
This raises an important question though: Is the PSP (or handheld gaming) dying when a title in a long running, high profile, series is unable to scrape more than 2.2 million sales?
Retro gaming console emulator apps are now welcome on the Apple App Store and can even offer downloadable games.
Yep most probably
Definitely infact
It’s just since apple got official dualsense support a while ago, (ios 14.5, it was 2 years ago now) I thought it useful to post here
The beaten quite a few prolific companies the past like universal so it's not unwinable
From systems that could keep your beer cool, to oddities trying to get in on the popularity of VHS and laserdisc, you’ve got some very, very weird video game consoles out there.
I had the LaserActive... it was a nice collectors piece but not very practical. Especially when it came to needing recapping. I think i paid all of about $50 for the floor model from an incredible Universe back in the day. I ended up selling it many years later for $300 at the time due to it needing a new laser and the aforementioned recapping.
An honorable mention not on the list would be the VM Labs Nuon. It basically looked like any regular DVD player but it had ports on it for controllers to play specific games. one of which is still exclusive to it with Tempest 3000. It also offered nuon enhanced DVD movies with extra content not accessible by regular players.
Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.
Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.
The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.
@car
The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans
https://www.pushsquare.com/...
@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.
@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.
Cacabunga
Helldivers 2...
Redemption-64
In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.
So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.
@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.
@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.
True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.
I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.
Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.
Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.
Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.
Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.
I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.
Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.
I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.
Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?
GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.
I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.
Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.
Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.
They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.
Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.
You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.
700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out
Christopher
I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.
There are tons of live service games that are profitable.
Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.
I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.
Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.
I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.
Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.
I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.
And Im a single player gamer.
How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.
RIP hardcore gaming. Welcome casual market.
GT series is intended to be played on a big screen not on a handheld device so I am actually surprised the game did so well on the PSP. I'm a fan of the series (hell I just bought GT5 a few days ago) but I find playing this game on a handheld a bit awkward compared to my tv.
I think the problem is that the PSP GT feels like an extention to a full game rather than a stand alone title and there's not enough cross over between GT5 and PSP to make it worthwhile rather than handheld gaming being on the decline.
A career mode would have been a start.
What bullshit article is this?
the psp just sold 300k in one region last week and the ds just outsold everything.......even consoles
wow another idiotic apple fanboy who doesnt realize that we all own a psp for the quality and content of the games.
And handheld gaming is on a meteoric rise.....this gen the ds and psp have sold mor eunits and have more sales than consoles and or any other handheld before it.
Nothing to see but another dellusional apple fanboy who actually thinks the game quality doesnt matter.
@below, they arent dominating anything because guess what its not a game system. By that logic the pc is dominating. The ds and psp have sold more than the consoles this gen, are consoles dying? no
The ds sold more than every other game system last week in every region and the psp sold 300k.......
Only to these screwed up people think that 65 million units sold and 130 million units sold is failing when theres basically no precident
@second point, the ds has outsold the wii by a pretty decent margin and the psp has outsold everythign other than the ds and wii. Iproducts arent game devices, they are multimedia devices that happen to play games like pc's
@kwyjibo you must be 12......phones arent dedicated handhelds so you cant even compare sales of phones and game devices. Its why they arent compared ever. You dont compare pc's and consoles. Not everyone games on phones and not everyone games on pc's
The psp go is literally irrelevant with the other psp models selling like gangbusters. And the psp 2 will be just as successful
I think it's because of what Gran Turismo is claiming to be. It is "The Real Driving Simulator." It isn't something you can get on a handheld device as well as it can be done on a home console. You don't have the pretty graphics, the realistic sounds, the wheel attachments, etc.
That's why handheld games should be games that are designed for well, handheld gameplay. Puzzle games, platformers, strategy, etc.
Although I loved Peace Walker, and the GOW games, no one will argue if they were to be on console, you would not have bought the PSP version. (Well maybe not "no one" but you know what I mean...)