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Discussing the Killzone 3 Beta With the Best of the Best, Rayed_X

PS Unlimited Writes: Those of you that were lucky enough to get into the Killzone 3 Beta late last month were fortunate to have a small sneak peak of the multiplayer for the upcoming game bound for an early 2011 release.

Now i’m sure by now, you’ve read many impressions showcasing the many positive & negatives of this multiplayer beta. In many ways the team at Guerilla seemed to include in this verison of the game what many critics of the first mulitplayer asked for. At the same token, Killzone 2 fanatics feared the act of the game selling out to the mainstream since in this day in age in modern gaming, popular games such as Call of Duty seems to be appealing to the general first person shooter masses.

We at PlayStation Unlimited decided to take it a step further by finding out how one of the best Killzone 2 players in the world feels about the beta in comparison to the original PS3 game. Meet RayeD_X of Saudi Arabia… the Number 2 Killzone 2 player in the world.

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Da Ill One4897d ago

Dude is just pissed cuz he sucks at KZ 3...I was ranked in the top ten for a long while in KZ 2, and KZ 3 is much better...the mechs aren't overpowered if you know how to hide and shoot properly...and who cares about a class name change so fucking what...suck it up buttercup...the only thing I will agree with is the mechs and jetpacks need to run out of ammo also... especially the jetpacks...everything else is an improvement in my opinion.and it's nothing like Call of Duty...

A Cupcake for Gabe4897d ago

Wow, these guys basically called the game a crap. I personal think the improvements are good. It's a beta and they seem to trash it like it's releasing tomorrow. They seem to hate COD though. I am sure the controls wouldn't of changed if the COD fans didn't complain.

Also, I dont get this "no one shoots from the hip" crap. Isnt it important to aim down your sites?

And on SPAWN CAMPERS? I only had experienced this a couple times. It is not at all an issue like they make it out to be.

I really think this article is made to hurt KZ3. The wording is definitely set up to make this game look bad, and that is sad. The KZ3 beta is very fun and definitely still Killzone. It still has weight, still has some recoil, but I is opening it's self up to millions who can now transistion from COD.

Quit being a selfish.

Cevapi884897d ago (Edited 4897d ago )

am i the only one getting sick and tired of the same stupid argument of controls being beaten to death when it comes to kz2/3? i mean seriously, this has been the number 1 thing that people bitch about again and again...these people need to play botzone more often to hone in their skills and get a good feel for the game...once you master the controls, the game is very immersive, just play operations in the beta...it never gets old

i would wonder how all these critics would react if they shot off real guns?

ohh too much recoil, i missed the target, it was the guns fault, i ended up with a black eye...after playing CoD i can conclude that real guns lack the reality of real guns in a game portraying reality with real events

yo dawg meme...thats right

hay4896d ago (Edited 4896d ago )

@Da Ill One: I suck at KZ3 but I think is sh!tload of fun. So I declare those guys as whiners.
Game looks great, plays like a dream, there's deep mechanic system that keeps you playing, diversive gameplay, it's huge improvement over previous iteration.

I'm not much into online shooters, but I think I'll stick with KZ3 for a bit longer.

Didn't have any problems with spawn campers, I shot from the hip many times. My only problem was one time some german guy wouldn't shut up and kept talking in his native language.
Serious problem, aye? /s

-Alpha4896d ago (Edited 4896d ago )

He isn't the only one expressing this opinion. Numerous people on the forums are. On N4G the reaction is opposite. But his opinion is no more less valuable than yours.

You guys resort to trashing the guy's opinion, yet never ever actually address them.

There are concerning issues with the game. A beta is for critical feedback, and I'm afraid people have their ears plugged and eyes shut to actually do that

Cevapi884896d ago

if by serious concerns you mean the controls, then no you are not being serious as that is not a serious concern...GG should focus more on matchmaking and the unlock system...i personally liked the classes the way they were in kz2...certain classes right now in the beta can be overpowered...you can level up the infiltrator class and the opposing team will have a hard time figuring it out since when you do a melee on them, the infiltrator stays in his disguise...switching up witch weapons you start with each class takes some time getting used to, but once you get a feel for each weapon it shouldnt be that hard

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BeOneWithTheGun4897d ago

This guy is on crack. As the person above stated the only thing I would change is not having unlimited ammo in the mechs. Jet packs should stay the same I think.

And speaking of mechs, how cool would it be if they had a wide open map that was mech and jet pack only? Lawd, call me in sick to work now!

vhero4896d ago

I love the BETA although I ain't tried online I preferer bots right now till I get used to the controls etc I am loving it. A step above Black Ops that's for sure.

DigitalAnalog4896d ago (Edited 4896d ago )

Nearly half the things he said were the EXACT reasons why I loved Killzone 2. To be honest, I wouldn't be playing Resistance 2 or any other FPS if it wasn't for Killzone 2.

I really admire him for acknowledging the game would be very "call of duty" like. For me, Killzone would lose it's "uniqueness" because of that and even I may be detered from getting this game because of it (or at least in the multi-player).

As for my final remake, I really hate playing Killzone 2 as of now. The first 2 weeks upon release was one of the best multi-player experience I had (until they released the garbage "High-Pricsision-Aiming for stupid COD-noobs" option)

All in all, guy is a real Killzone 2 fan. That's what I see in him. All the way from Saudi Arabia, nice!

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NecrumSlavery4896d ago

I think that guy is a booster. he was like a million points above the #2 guy after a week.

49erguy4896d ago (Edited 4896d ago )

god DAMN this guy doesn't like shit! He honestly HATES everything about KZ3! Down to them changing the name from scout to marksman (good move IMO).

This guy has no opinions. In a nutshell he doesn't like it because its not Killzone 2. Terrible interview, fuck him.

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man0fsteel4897d ago

definitely did not think the game is crap , if you see the difference between my questions an his,and my conclusion. I thought the opposite.

ALFAxD_CENTAURO4897d ago (Edited 4897d ago )

Well, somehow is right.

In KZ2 you need skills to master the way to play and the controllers, unlike other shooters.

In KZ3 is more easy for any player. And that is the way I feel it since the 1st day I'm playing KZ3 beta.

Also they need to add Recoil, but I think it is already reported in KZ Forums.

The System to upgrade and to get new stuff it is more like MAG than COD. But this guy think it is like COD.

xYLeinen4897d ago

You're not supposed to master the controls but the game mate >_>

zireno4897d ago

I'm sorry but this guy is full of s**t, I mean, is he serious?! the controls are different between kz2 and kz3 beta, but he does not understand the difference between lag and weight. From my experience playing the beta, what guerrilla games did was remove the lag on the controls, the weightiness is still present, and I think it's much much better this way, and to say that it feels like COD and BBC2 is pure bs, those games are very different control wise, COD is very fast and arcadey while BBC2 has that weighty feel (which is great), and he is putting those games in the same category? come on, I kind of expected a bit more intelligence from one of "the top kz2 players".

kz3 beta is pretty sweet, the controls are much better this way, very very little lag between input and movement and the weight is present.

TurismoGTR4897d ago

Killzone 3 beta is pretty amazing. After I make this comment, I'm about to play again. It's pretty addicting.

Im gonna give you all my feedback & Review of K3 Beta.

Pros
*Nice Multiplayer Map Design
*Very Balanced
*Graphics Are Phenomenal
*Controls Are Crazy Good
*Gameplay Feels & Plays Very SMOOTH!
*No Lag, Or Little.
*No Glitches.... yet.
*Pretty Addictive
*Game Modes are fun and you dont wanna stop!
*XMB Music Background (Many games doesn't add this feature for some reason like Call Of Duty)
+Much More

Cons
*Long Loading Screens
*ISA & Helgast looks similar.. It takes a good 3-5 seconds to figure it's the enemy.

Killzone 3 Beta gets a 9.8/10
AWESOME!

visualb4896d ago

how's the camping? He mentions there's a lot of it?

@*ISA & Helgast looks similar.. It takes a good 3-5 seconds to figure it's the enemy.

did you play KZ2 MP? they always did, you get used to it, just shoot red if you are blue and vice versa =)

pupa4896d ago

Well when I started to play my first KZ3 game, the frozen dam, I was alone against three others. They camped the base spawn point with a Mechs and jet packs and shot every re-spawning mech on my side and myself. That gave me a sad/bad taste.

visualb4896d ago

ah ok, well fair enough with such few players it'd be likely they'd just f*ck around

with more I'm sure things will go better =)

I hope they make the spawn camping useless though....

raztad4896d ago

@pupa

Perhaps was a miswording but Frozem Dam has no Mechs or jetpacks.

In fact there is not (in the beta) a single map having both mechs and jetpacks together, and Frozem Dam has none.

Regarding the camping. The only time I had problem with base camping was in Corinth Highway. It was the first time I played that map. People was just learning how to play, didnt know how to beat mechs, and didnt how to use the Tactical Spawn Points. Later on, the situation become a lot more enjoyable with more experienced players. The camping issue is over exaggerated by KZ2 zealots that want no changes in the spawn system.

NecrumSlavery4896d ago

Camping is not an issue. This isn't Nuketown.

Also, on the difference between ISA/Helgast. One team looks like Blue Tron players and the other like Darth Vader with Red eyes.

This game is good. The beta feels like killzone but now more adaptive for others. It isn't casual at all. Also why are they whining about aiming? I always aim down my sites unless I'm in a CQB situation.

I agree the jetpack should be limited on ammo.

The mech is powerful, but you also extremely vulnerable when in it.
Overall, I have more fun with the gameplay in KZ3 beta than I did with any other shooter this year.

And Operations is the best MP mode ever. Ita like an advancement mission like BFBC does but with different objectives and badass cutscenes.

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redsquad4896d ago

Definately agree with you on how similar the ISA and Helghans look at first - I did get used to it after a few matches though.

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20 Years of Guerrilla: The Story of a PlayStation Studio

The Amsterdam-based studio reflects on its humble beginnings, beloved franchises, and growth through the years.

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SullysCigar345d ago

Up there with the top tier in the industry. Love Guerrilla Games - Horizon Burning Shores is simply STUNNING.

1Victor345d ago

Can’t wait for their next franchise

SullysCigar345d ago

Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!

jznrpg345d ago

I’m with you I want Horizon 3 , Killzone and new IPs

badz149345d ago

I have yet to play Burning Shores as I just started Forbidden West (bought at launch, just unwrapped last weekend LOL) and playing on PS5.

man...I still can't believe the graphics especially now I'm playing it on my LG OLED. that graphics and with stable performance backing it up, GG really is the master of their craft!

Vengeance1138345d ago

32.7M sales in the Horizon franchise! With 8.4M coming from Forbidden West alone! Truly a hugely successful game and franchise as a whole. Looking forward to Horizon III

Shane Kim345d ago

That's kind of a huge drop though. It's only been two games.

VersusDMC345d ago

One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.

https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...

So not a drop off.

Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?

Vengeance1138345d ago

It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.

solideagle345d ago

lol you are comparing:

HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)

HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)

We will see if it surpass original number.

Phoenix76345d ago

@shane, 2 full main games, 2 DLC add ons, 1 VR spin off game, oh and a an official LEGO set.
Not too bad for an ip that's only been on market for 6 years

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REDGUM345d ago

Wow, very impressive. I didn't know the numbers were so high for Forbidden West. Still playing through it myself

thesoftware730345d ago (Edited 345d ago )

Yooo, when I first saw that Killzone 1 footage at E3, my friends my brothers and I were like, Holy shit! When it came out, it didn't look exactly like it, but we sunk so many hours into 1 & 2.

I even liked Killzone: SF, it was a spectacle to look at, and even today it looks good. I hope they make a new one. Can you imagine how that will look, and they can get some modern FPS pointers from Bungie.

blacktiger345d ago

thank you fps lover, I'm with you

talocaca345d ago

Such a wonderful studio. They deserve all their success.

The Decima Engine is absolute 🔥 I'm just mad they have abandoned Killzone.

OzzY-waZZy345d ago (Edited 345d ago )

Kinda wish they move on from Horizon tbh.

potatoseal345d ago

They are probably working on mutiple projects. One of them is Horizon 3, but another is a multiplaer game and probably somehting else.

Imalwaysright345d ago

There were rumours that they were working on a Socom reboot.

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Killzone 3 is playable with mouse & keyboard on PC via RPCS3 & KAMI

DSOGaming writes: "While Sony does not plan to release Killzone 3 on the PC, Yahfz shared a video that gives us a glimpse at what such a PC version could look like."

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bouzebbal1096d ago

Still looks secure 2 gens later... one of my favorite ps3 moments. With 3D and move the game is on another level

MadLad1096d ago

PC almost always ends up the best place to play games, even if it takes a while.

What would you rather play decades down the line? A game at a fixed resolution and frame, considering you have a working disc, and the hardware?
Or run it on an emulator that can update the experience all around, and let you use whatever control input you prefer?

If you insist on the former, it's really only for the sake of nostalgia.

Applejack1096d ago

I disagree. The main draw for consoles has always be the simplicity of just putting the disc in / downloading it and playing without worrying about anything else. The average person just wouldn’t want to deal with emulation even though it’s very important for preservation.

Terry_B1096d ago

Even emulators are super simple to use.

jukins1096d ago

Youre getting flak because people on here thibk of themselves as pc wizards. But honestly most poeple try and go get emulators and romz they end up with malware.. yes theyre "easy" if you know the basics but alot of people dont. That said the fact that its taken nearly 20 years to get a sustantially better experience for ps3 games than on its native system shows the complexity of getting bc to work. Sony, if they have any intention, should just invest in a vastly better psnow experience.

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Vegamyster1096d ago

jukins

Most people who emulate don't get malware, you'd have to be going to some weird sites for that to happen, heck years ago people were getting sketchier ad's resulting in malware warning on this site if you didn't have a ad-blocker lol.

SinkingSage1096d ago

Can't get malware if you legally dump your own games, which you should.

Rachel_Alucard1096d ago (Edited 1096d ago )

That's fine if that's the main draw, but it doesn't make it a better experience, just a preference. Having the freedom to do the things you can do on PC is what the appeal of PC is. Buying a game on PC means you never have to worry about the console makers just deciding the next hardware shouldn't support the generation anymore, which means everything you bought is stuck on that hardware instead of moving up with everything else. Nintendo uses this tactic to keep reselling the same games over and over at inflated prices. Sony cut all previous gens off the PS4 and sold it back to people in a poor attempt with PSnow. While the PS5 supports PS4 games, that may not be the case in the next gen after this. No to mention shutting off all the previous stores and updates completely. Even MS stopped making new BC titles at some point, so now there's a big list with 17 pages of titles that are not playable on Xbone and are just trapped on older gen. That's not a problem on PC, the reverse happens where you only have to worry if your hardware can play the newest releases at ultra with no issue.

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AzubuFrost1096d ago

Shhh don't say that aloud! You're going to trigger a lot of console infidels here.

Shane Kim1096d ago

I rather play it when it's available then wait 10 years.

MadLad1095d ago

Did you purposely miss the entire point of my post?

Inverno1096d ago

Well that's the beauty of still owning a retro console tho. Those who usually complain about emulation are just being blindly loyal to a company. Emulation is great for many reason, but if I still owned the console then I disagree nothing beats plugging it back in and going down a nostalgia trip

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RevXM1096d ago

The RPCS3 devs are doing great work. And Kami works nicely with it too it seems.
Very neat.

Magatsuhi1096d ago

Been playing mgo on pc with mouse. It's not perfect but I can make it work.

Binarycode1096d ago

2 is the better game.

A Remake would be good. 60fps 2-4k

Omar3li1096d ago

60fps is peasant for FPS games now

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Top 10 PS3 Games We Hope Come Back On PS5

While Xbox has committed to backwards compatibility spanning four generations, PlayStation has continued their stance that the feature isn't important. Well, it is! I'm hoping these PlayStation 3 classics that skipped the PS4 entirely show up again on the PS5 for everyone to enjoy.

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Knightofelemia1274d ago

Resistance, Dead Space franchise, Splatterhouse, Lollipop Chainsaw, Brutal Legends, Alice Madness Returns, Enslaved Journey to the West, Mass Effect franchise. Also wouldn't mind seeing a new Wild Arms game remake or HD remaster, the Xenosaga trilogy, a new Parasite Eve, a new Dino Crisis just too many games to list that are forgotten and left in the dark now adays.

Sciurus_vulgaris1274d ago

The PS3 is difficult to emulate. PS3 backwards compatibility on PS5 would require translation from PowerPC to x86. Additionally the PS5 likely would have to mimic the PS3’s GPU and CPU.

ApocalypseShadow1273d ago

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This is what pops up on my web browser. So I can't even read the site. So, forget that. They don't need my data.

But let's get something straight. OG Xbox had around 1,001 games. How many are BC on Series X? **39** THIRTY NINE. Come on! That's wack BC. You can't tell me that's a complete list. Talking about commitment. Game preservation. Ridiculous. Covers nothing.

How many games released on Xbox 360? Around 2085. How many are BC?
568. That's it. Around 1,517 are **MISSING** Stop playing. Tired of that nonsense.

Anyway, the only games I really want from PS3 that would be awesome are Motorstorm and MGS4. I'll take BC. I'll take a remaster. I'll take a remake. If not those, then Killzone 2. And in VR, maybe Sports Champions, House of the Dead Overkill and the Time Crisis games.

That's all I need. But we've gone over BC again and again in every possible way. It wasn't that important because Sony sold 115 million consoles without it. That's proof enough with no outcry. And PS5 has damn near all 4,000+ PS4 games BC. It's not PS1,PS2 and PS3. But that's plenty. I'll take more but you get what you get.

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