Kinect Sales Reach 1.3m Units

With ten days of release in the Americas and four days of release across Europe, VGChartz estimates that around 1.3 million Kinect sensors have now been sold-through to consumers worldwide. Breaking this down by region - 950,000 Kinect sensors have been sold in the Americas, 130,000 in the UK and around 200,000 across the rest of Europe.

[Shanks]

VGCrap, your numbers are nothing but shadow and dust.

[Hiruma Youchi]

Dint hear you say that when they posted Move numbers.

[Pedobear Rocks]

* http://www.gamesetwatch.com...

[Next_Up]

Article has nothing to do with move mate. Why so defensively butthurt?

[R2D2]

VChartz is made by 360 fanboys
VChartz is under MS wallet
VChartz is Crap

You do realize that they say ESTIMATED right.

[nix]

.

[JokesOnYou]

vgcharts also had been within 50k of NPD numbers for the majority of this year, do people understand how hard that would be to do if you were just "guessing"??? I'd say thats pretty good for a "Free" site given the enormous task of trying to track "sold to consumer".

The ones who complain the most about vgchartz never have links showing vgchartz data is "consistently" off more than 5-10% from more established tracking firms, NOPE they just yell, kick and scream vg sucks!, Yet they keep reading AND commenting on supposedly useless numbers. lol Now go back to the short period of time when ps3 was leading on vgcharts estimates for a few months, yep you guessed it, theres much less hate for vgchartz in those threads. YES occasionaly vg is waaay off, but some folks hate them with a passion as if they paid for vgchartz data and expect them to be + or - 1%, lol you'll notice Greenburg never dissed vgchartz until their kinect estimates which obviously points to him having reason/info kinect sold much better otherwise he would of just rolled with it and not said anything.

@visualb, any proof of that, do you know how many unfounded rumors are started on NeoGaf, don't get me wrong it could be true and NeoGaf have certainly exposed alot about of unknown facts about gaming, however for every 1 unkown fact exposed theres hundreds of made up rumors.

[Boody-Bandit]

Did you miss the article where Aaron Greenburg himself, you know MS's number one PR guy, dismissed VGChartz as crap? It's not PSFan anything but merely people with common logic that know their stat tracking is fictious and not factual.

All of their articles regarding numbers should be marked as rumor. They can post their made up bullshit numbers till their little hearts are content but only ignorant trolls and fanboys take them serious. Oh wait, I see why you back their number tracking.

"You do realize that they say ESTIMATED right."
All the more reason their articles should be listed as a rumor.

[Anon1974]

Actually, VGChartz have often been as much as 20-30% off NPD numbers for the majority of the year. Then, when NPD numbers come out they adjust their figures.

That's why you can't trust these numbers. Their meaningless, and even they don't stand by their weekly figures. When real numbers come out they say "Oh crap. We weren't even close," and then an adjustment is made.

But what can we expect. It's a fan run site that calls around to stores, gets a couple of numbers (or recruits guys who work in retail stores to give them some figures we no way of ensuring accuracy) and then they guess the rest. When their figures aren't even in the ballpark to more reliable figures, they fix them.

Long term there might be some use for VGChartz numbers but short term numbers like these are almost always so far off it's not even funny.

We need to stop approving these fake numbers. In encourage everyone to click on the VGChartz link below "Read full story" and rank the quality of this article. Eventually, if enough do this the quality filter on N4G will start weeding out these articles out from the real news.

[corneliuscrust]

Their console religion.

[rroded]

not a bad start for ms now if they can keep up the momentum for the holidays...

still a long shot imo the only peeps ive seen buying this are hardcore 360 owners even most of them dont want it...

[hakis86]

You mean the 1.5mill Move sales after 7 days?

[number47]

that it was a flop...

#1. Aaron Greenberg LOL's @ VGChartz.

Quote: "LOL'ing at sales reports from VGChartz, why do people release info as official when there is no source or science behind the #s?"

http://www.vgchartz.com/int... http://gamrconnect.vgchartz...

This should settle it bots. Your own president laughs at this source...

Its started by a 360 fanboy banned from neogaf for always fudging the 360 #'s.

Enjoy VGChartz morons.

Its nothing but a Microsoft Fanboy making up #'s which is why they are always corrected massively when actual data is released.

and lets say the #'s are right

HALF A BILLION DOLLARS for 1.5

lol.

[insomnium2]

And think about all the **** who still write comments like this one from above "People don't like the truth when it goes against
Their console religion. ". They MUST be saying things like that on purpose....right? They simply CANNOT be that ****. I mean how many times must these **** be proven wrong?

There might be even a flop (on x360 fans terms) in the making here. If vgchartz says they sold 1,3 million the actual figures might be well under a million. Doesn't look good with the 500 mil adverts.

[vsr]

Waiting for the official SHIPPED numbers

[darthv72]

I think the main issue people have with this site is most likely the nature of the person who created it. Rather than being a more neutral type of gamer he has been blacklisted as a 360 fanboy.

True or false, we all should simply take the results provided with a grain of salt. Obviously we all get a little bit giddy when numbers come out and sites like VGCharts are jumping the gun with estimated numbers to thwart us.

When the real ones are released we then slam VGC for being wrong instead of seeing it for what it is. An estimation of what 'could' be or close to it. I dont play the numbers game but I will admit that I sneak a peak on NPD and Media Create just to see what sales trends are happening.

We can argue about this night and day but we are also all guilty of looking at them.

[JokesOnYou]

I was curious with all the talk about vgchartz and I like to decipher fact from opinion so I googled the info for myself.

This is the thread where he was banned because apparently some members accused him of "using" neogaf to get hits for his site in media create threads, he was warned not to "spam" his site anymore, then consequently banned by a mod named Amir0x after linking his site again in another post. I saw no mention of him being a 360fanboy actual he was accused of always "inflating" wii software sales and underestimated the others. He explained himself well http://www.neogaf.com/forum... and the only reason I could tell he was ultimately banned is because many didn't like his attitude and of course mods believe him to have an agenda to promote his site using neogaf, which I dont doubt was his key motive.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Some major business's like Forbes, Fortune, The New York Post, The New York Times and of course some gaming sites have qouted vgchartz #'s because again if you use them only for what they are, an estimate they are generally reliable for sales trends. Gamesutra actually did an analysis of vgchartz and although they pointed out a few occasions that vgchartz was totally inaccurate they also stated:
"Most of the time, they are quite close compared to the worldwide charts. That's because VGChartz is - like services such as The SimExchange."
And again this seems to be a very fair unbiased analysis of vg that concluded with: "if I was a writer or analyst trying to extrapolate significant information from the resource, especially regarding those titles which don't chart regularly, given the major discrepancies with other figures shown here, I would not recommend it."
http://www.gamasutra.com/ph...

Its easy for their detractors to use the relatively few occasions when their data has been waaay off to say the site is terrible at tracking sales data, but they ignore the other more consistent times when the data is withing 10-15% of more reliable *paid firms, much like Kobe or Jordan haters use their poor games as a evidence to downplay all their accomplishments.

I welcome any comparison charts showing vg sales with huge discrepencies from npd for a consistent time frame, all I was able to find were a few articles here and there saying vgchartz estimate for a few individual software titles showed a large discrepency. I don't particularly care about the site or who owns it but after years of vgchartz being dedicated to at least "trying" to provide sales data, and from my own knowledge being close to NPD more often than not, again for those of us who like to have an idea what the latest sales trends are, I appreciate their efforts, those who hate them should just ignore vg threads.

[visualb]

and the guy who started VGChartz was a notorious 360 fanboy banned from NeoGaf for constantly posting fake sales numbers that were inflated for 360 and deflated for PS3

I'd say, yeah, VGCharts has no say, its just a "360 fanboys wet dream" sales site...

would this also mean Kinect would have sold less?

[Hiruma Youchi]

Any proof? oh and I do remember Vgchartz giving big PS3 sales that were higher then the actual ones. Dint see you complain then.

[Mr_Bun]

EVERY VGChartz article should be filed under "Rumor". Technically it should file under "Fake" but "Rumor" at the very least

[wanaraceu]

As I said before these are crap numbers it's no surprise as m$ has spent 500 million marketing kinect!
A polished turd would fly of shelves if it had 500 mil advertising budget.

That would mean each one sold cost m$ 500 for each one sold

[MeatPopsicle]

"Any proof? "

LOL

The little Xbox fan name was ioi on neogaf. His lies were so bad that I believe his name and site are censored out and you will get banned if you try to mention his fake sales number site vgchartz.

"oh and I do remember Vgchartz giving big PS3 sales that were higher then the actual ones. Dint see you complain then."

As if gamers needed any more examples of the ridiculous fanboy lies the Xbox fan who runs vgchartz. The 'high PS3 sales' one is hilarious.

Vgchartz had been repeatedly getting caught making laughably low PS3 sales numbers stories. Even Xbox fans were balking at how far the kid running the site was lying about PS3 sales.

So the little punk immediately put out some new sales numbers that ridiculously over counted that week's or month's PS3 sales and then immediately started babbling about "Look! This proves I'm not just some little kid Xbox fan!"

What a joke.

[visualb]

I don't get the 10 disagree's, I myself was skeptical of this just a week ago, and then I was provided proof, and now its quite obvious VGChartz is as reliable as any fanboy run website on the net.

disagree all you want, its quite self evident considering the way VGCharts works is by calling up some local gamestores and using that info to guess all the sales...

thats why most of the time VGChartz is filed under rumor...because thats all it is , a random assed guess

and hiruma, are you going to troll everyone's comment by saying "Dint see you complain then." ?

did I even comment on that article? how would you remember if I didn't complain then or not?

wow you are a sore one...get over it, its VGCharts, PS3 or 360 or wii sales:

THEY
ARE
ALL
WRONG

[frostypants]

Google it. I'm sick of every time someone points out VGChartz bannination from Neogaf, some schlub asks for proof. He's not your research department. Look it up yourself. People have even discussed it on VGChartz own forums. Whether or not you think it's true doesn't change the fact that it is. VGChartz and its founder are banned from Neogaf. Fact.

[Theonik]

There's a reason why posting Vgchartz numbers is a bannable offence on GAF. Vgchartz numbers are nothing but glorified guesses.

[stuna1]

That is not saying too much! Considering how much marketing might has been put behind kinects from the offset. 500 million dollars of marketing might, sure there are those who would argue that that's for a year of exposure, but realise that move has been able to accomplish this at a fraction of the price tag, without the Ellen Degeneros's, Ophra Winfrey's of the media to promote it. I think credit should be given where it's due.

If you like kinects game on! But someone likes the competition product don't sh#t on it, or discount it, because you may not like it! Believe me there is someone out that thinks differently.

[PS360fanboy]

OMG! Who buys this stuff?!

[seinfan]

Didn't an MS rep joke about this site's estimates? I would think it sold more than what they're stating. So you should probably cry harder.

Motion controls are destroying video games.

[frostypants]

Aaron Greenberg himself made fun of them last week.

[niceguywii60]

MSFT already laughed at the first numbers VGC predicted.

@blackburn5

"I don't remember any Move owners clinging to VGC for Move sales"

http://n4g.com/news/609521/...

[Thugbot187]

In the years i've been coming to this site. The one thing I can say is Sony fanboys will say yea for VGChartz when it reports numbers they like.

To the same note I don't see too many 360 fanboys doing the same thing but there are a few. I guess its not so obvious on this site because there are more pro Sony people on this site.

My point is get over it, its only an estimate. If the same article was about the move I doubt any of these same people would be saying the same thing. Don't believe me search all previous articles with VGChartz and Sony doing well, look at many of the same people putting it down now. You will see they are giving a big thumbs up to VGChartz....

VGChartz is not a 360 fan site, because throughout the history and again check articles on this site, 360 numbers didn't always look good. There have been many positive PS3 numbers reported. On top of that VGChartz was challenging NPD at one point, so if they are so much of 360 fanboys why would they challenge, saying they are as accurate for cheaper?

I guess its silly writing this because I don't expect many people here to have the IQ to comprehend what I was talking about in the slightest bit, but to those that do we see the hypocrisy in many of the comments.

[Pedobear Rocks]

has never 'challenged' NPD...you're on crack.

[Narutone66]

whatever, it's vgchartz anyway. They can report any numbers they like without proofs.

[MaximusPrime]

"VGChartz estimates"...

Stopped reading from there

[Kurisu]

I think official numbers are going to be much bigger than this.

[Hiruma Youchi]

lol @ disagrees

[BlackTar187]

your posts are a joke

[playstation_clan]

silly fanboy salez are for chumps

[Spartanv07]

you didn't say that last gen.

[mcstorm]

I agree with you. Kinect sales will be high even if this site dose not like it. When I went to Pick Kinect up last Wed at 11:30am there will still loads of people coming in the shop to pick up Kinect.

I think Kinect will be the new wii and I have to give it to MS for pulling this off as well as what they have done this gen getting the XBOX name into the homes of millions of gamers homes.

Its now up to Sony and Nintendo to try and push them back out.

[NewZealander]

awesome, cant wait to pick it up, im waiting until after Xmas though, as good as this looks Ive got to think about presents first :(

[acere]

dont aprove this crap.
VGChartz estimates that around 1.3 million Kinect sensors have now been sold-through to consumers

[theafroman]

not bad a well estimate so it could be well on track on the 5 mill

[Nathaniel_Drake]

don't take the site seriously, they still have PS3 under tracked at about 1 million even when the official numbers came out

[Stealth20k]

Its funny that the sales are 0 in japan. They understand what has real gaming value and whats a gimmick. That counts for move too

[units]

kinect isnt out in japan

[OSU_Gamer]

rofl

[seinfan]

LMAO!!! Yeah, they REALLY know what has real gaming value. LOL because Japan is the #1 model market to what the average consumer would like. Ex: hentai, fish porn, Hello Kitty. Yeah, they're so awesome.

[Pedobear Rocks]

VG Chartz pulls 100% of its numbers from its ass.

Until big companies start paying VG for its research they should be lumped in with every other blog out there that makes shit up for hits.

[Nathaniel_Drake]

"I estimate that
VG Chartz pulls 100% of its numbers from its ass. "

Well they sometimes put it back in, I mean look at the PS3 numbers being under tracked even when the official numbers came out

[DXM1]

its funny you would say that. I googled ioi and found this:

Just got banned from NeoGAF:

"You have been banned for the following reason:
vgchartz gets their numbers from a very special space: ioi's ass

Date the ban will be lifted: Never"

[Masterchef2007]

Why doesn't Microsoft release any numbers if Kinect was such a huge sucess

[Kareshi_X]

Because it's only been officialy out for not even 2 weeks and the holidays still havent come through. They'll obviously release the numbers at the end of the holidays. Do you guys actually think before talking?

[Masterchef2007]

I mean they did it with every Halo so why not with Kinect? It would be a great way to get free publicity. I am guessing that they are probably waiting till their financial quarter ends before releasing their numbers to make it seem incredibly popular with christmas sales included. Question is how many new 360s will get sold cause of kinect?

[ct03]

Official numbers are coming. If there's enough stock they'll definitely be released around Black Friday for maximum impact.

[Masterchef2007]

What the heck is this famous black friday that everyone is talking about?

[Pillville]

here you go Masterchef

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+i...

[AceofStaves]

It's interesting they haven't made any official sales statement before now. MS tends to give some indication of numbers they've sold through PR statements at the very least.

Waiting until after Black Friday will, however, allow them to release a higher total, which would give them a greater "Wow" factor.

[strickers]

You clearly don't pay attention to company policies in the games industry.IF it was doing that well MS would be crowing.They do it every time.Look at 1st day Halo sales coming out immediately.
All I know is that it's not selling out near me.Local Game has 4 Kinects and about 10 bundles on the shelf this sunday.
Uk is big for MS.If they can't sell it here,then they will struggle even more in mainland EU/JP.

[Belasco]

Would anyone on N4G believe anything MS says? That is a better question.

[AceofStaves]

If it's official numbers, e.g. from quarterly financial statements, then yes, obviously.

All statements from PR staff, no matter which company they work for, should be taken with a box of salt.

[MajestieBeast]

Ye taking them very long the first 2 weeks of the slim they would boast like crazy now they are silent whats up with that. I was expecting greenturd to go yeah best product on the market and look we shipped 1 million units more then move.

[Kareshi_X]

What are you talking about? Use proper english if you want to get a point across please.

[suicidalblues]

@ kareshi

His point is simple. MS wastes no time in telling us day 1 or week #'s for Halo:Reach or the 360 slim. But there's been nothing official mentioned for Kinect. Makes a person wonder why they're being so quiet.

[Genecalypse]

Is vgchartz reliable or no? If theyre not then, that includes all sales, Wii, Xbox, PS3, you cant pick and choose.

[Pedobear Rocks]

they claim to track all games...in all regions..using only their own research and provide all this info for free...

Bullshit hit seeking site.

And yes...I'll say that for any article that uses them.

[Chromer]

Nobody should be trying to defend this news article at all considering even Aaron Greenburg came out and said that VGChartz has no basis for their original numbers. Now somehow, Kinect has "sold-through" and it's 1.3 million?

VGChartz should be banned a source of information when it has been proven numerous times that VGChartz is pulling numbers from their ass.

[Prcko]

i belive that number isn't that big,it's around million maybe

[sku7790tz]

vgfarts!

subtract 30% for anything 360 and you have the real numbers.

[ct03]

How is pulling random percentages out of your butt any better than what VGChartz is doing?

[reckoner]

I lol'd.

[blackburn5]

Lol at people saying no one said anything when Move numbers came out. I don't remember any Move owners clinging to VGC for Move sales. It has been proved time and time again that VGC is full of it and anyone including PS3 owners who listen to them are idiots.BTW even if this info is true what happened to 'Kinect will sell 5 million the first day'? and all the other boasts I heard? I guess it time to start back pedalling.

[OSU_Gamer]

Uhh...I saw plenty of responses like:

"Even though this is VGChartz, those are great numbers"

As if some disclaimer in their response nullified all comments that might show they are taking VGChartz seriously.

Edit:

VGChartz is crap no matter how you spell it, but the PS3 fanboys and 360 fanboys have different levels of disreguard for VGChartz, all based on which console is being discussed.

If you can't see that you are as blind as them.

[kasasensei]

Big numbers.

[Masta Kaos]

We waiting for GT5 and they waiting for Kinect numbers........sux to be you.

[OSU_Gamer]

Yet here you are in the Kinect sales article

Whos waiting for what?

I'm getting GT5 and Kinect...deal with it.

[Moentjers]

by that time, the driver to activate the kinect on PS3 will be ready.

Now only find a game to play with it...

[corneliuscrust]

I guess in some ways you've got us there.

[Blaster_Master]

They gave away more than they sold. I dont care if they sold 20 million, the fact that they have been giving these away makes me wonder how many of those were actually sold and not part of that half a billion dollar campaign.

[NickX]

So many butt hurt PS3 fanboys in here. Can't handle the fact Kinect is selling well. Must hurt walking around with a pain in your ass all day.

[Pedobear Rocks]

VG chartzzz not for Kinect.

That seems to be the case for alot of commenters here.

Perhaps if you stopped seeing everything as coming from 'butthurt' commenters you'd have more than 3 bubbles.

[AceofStaves]

I see defensive XBox fanboys - those who are offended and butthurt by comments calling VGC's numbers into question - resorting to calling everyone who's not pro-Kinect "PS3 fanboys."

I also see well-reasoned comments on both sides of the Kinect debate as well.

[Nathaniel_Drake]

Wow your statement is ironic, the only people who defend a site run by a xbox fanboy are xbox fanboys.

All I want are official number, not doctored crap just to make a lonely fanboy justified of his purchase

[josephayal]

PS move 2.5 million KINECT 1.3 million

[strickers]

Those Move sales are weeks old.

[m23]

I don't trust any sales numbers unless they are directly from the companies themselves, or from NPD. Even Aaron Greenberg said something about these websites having no credibility.

[SuperStrokey1123]

I kinda thought that it would move more units than that. Its certainly not selling out in my city. I was at costco yesturday and they had loads of bundles there for it (the 250 gigs i think).

[Xfanboy]

Why does Sonys marketing team sucks so bad!! Alot of people don't even know about eye pet!! but they know Kinectimals!!

Marketing is the only thing that really matters in biz more than
just a good product..

If sony gets that right then there circle will be complete..
@ the end of the generation M$ is most likely to make the most
money regardless if more ps3s are sold (xbox live,kenect,multiplates sell higher on 360)

Any Ps3fanboy in this kenect article care to disagree or respond??? (just to let me know your in here)

Gt5 will sell more than halo game in japan!! In the U.S. not sure... If it doesn't beat Black Ops I will laugh at sony!!

[Nathaniel_Drake]

How much money is Sony saving with word of mouth advertisement then spending $500 million in ads.

You have to know that MS is still losing money from Kinect with this ad campaign, so right now they are still trying to make the money back, and need to sell more units then the move just to break even

[Hallmark Moment]

No one has ever called out VGC when they under track or over track. A Sure sign of VGC not being able to track Kinect sales is proven by Microsoft responding to the numbers. And they must be severely under tracked for PR to respond by pocking fun of group no one bothered before one way or the other.

[anaviel]

So if the article said on 100,000 units were sold, then would this article be rumor or would the Sony fannies claim a win?

N4G is loosing it's reliability as an unbiased gaming web site with all this unlimited fanboy stupidity. It makes it hard to navigate the site without feeling overwhelmed with so much negativity. I really do hope some of you fan boys are getting a check from Sony or MS for your unwavering loyalty to a toy. Because that's all these systems are...high priced...high tech toys. Like a super speak and spell. When the official numbers drop and they are in the millions I wonder what will be the excuse then...maybe that's shipped not sold, or they gave most of those away, or my personal favorite "that's not in Japan though"....LOL!!! Most of you need girlfriends seriously.

[Kos-Mos]

I thought by now vgchartz`s articles had to low standards for N4g, but apparently I was wrong.
People should stop commenting and posting articles from a fake video-game site.
Ooooops I commented it.....BUT then again were my reasons not valid? :)

[sashimi]

Wheres the proof lolz. Even M$ thinks VGchartz are retarded.

[earbus]

its not even released in australia yet strong numbers .

[Halo_Reach]

According to NPD and GfK wich are official sources.

LOOOL

[strickers]

Laugh out out out loud?You are smart,I believe you.Link?

[CombineElite]

I hope Kinect sells 1 billion units. Then Microsoft can take all that money and make some EXCELLENT CORE and HARDCORE PC and 360 exclusives. Hell maybe even port some to the PS3.

For me it's all about the games and if Move and Kinect generate money for better Core games then so be it.

Other than that who cares how many units Kinect sales cause you either like it or you don't.