PlayStation 3 Has Outsold Xbox 360 (NSFW)

Statistics published by top game developer Tose show that with 42 million the total number of PS3s sold globally have exceeded the Xbox 360 by a million units.

The statistics coe by way of a presentation by Tose (a prolific Kyoto-based game developer best known for not being known, as their games as usually credited exclusively to the company outsourcing the work to them, most often Nintendo) at the Kyoto Cross Media Experience 2010, published by Famitsu.

[aaron5829]

FIGHT !

[cmrbe]

This is getting boring. Watching x360 fans defend kinetic is alot more fun.

[ShinMaster]

Well, it's nothing really new. That's how it tends to be in Japan.

[edit] Oh never mind. They're talking worldwide numbers.

[MinskyM]

It really is amazing when you look back to how we got here:

* Microsoft rushed the Xbox 360 hardware out a year before this gen started in 2005. And a year and a half before the PS3 launched in Europe to try to pad out their installed base like a runner jumping the gun hoping they can beat two faster competitors.

* Sony and Nintendo switched to reporting only actual sales numbers in 2006. Microsoft remains the only company that still tries to pass off shipped numbers as real sales

* Towards the end of the first year of the Xbox 360 a 20 something year old Xbox fan gets banned from the neogaf forums for posting fake sales numbers. He runs off an creates the fake sales numbers site vgchartz. He is able to easily inflate 360 sales numbers thanks to Microsoft's reporting of shipped numbers instead of actual sales. The kid gleefully reports Microsoft and their infamous '10 million' 'sold' number when the actual sales numbers was somewhere in the 7-8 million range. Microsoft floods the retail channel with so many extra 360s to make their PR announcement they end up shipping 0 new 360s for the entire next quarter due to stores have so many unsold units still sitting on the shelves.

* The PS3 ships as the most expensive console in history in 2006. 200 dollars more expensive than the 360.

* The PS3 quickly dumps the 360 into last place in Japan

* The PS3 then dumps the 360 into last place in Europe. Microsoft can't even get their fake sales numbers right for Europe in trying to claim they weren't in last place. Microsoft ends up reporting they 'hit 10 million' two different times months apart

* PS3 software sales top 360 software sales

* PS3 worldwide quarterly sales numbers start outselling the 360 by a huge amount and worldwide installed base of the PS3 is almost past the 360. Major Nelson accidentally uses actual sales numbers. Alan Greenburg scrambles a day later with 360 shipments numbers in attempt at damage control. And the 360 worldwide installed base numbers include the millions and millions of duplicate 360s bought due the RRoD and other hardware defects.

All this while the PS3 is still the launch price of the PS2, 300 dollars. Crazy to think what the PS3 sales will be like when it hits the 200 price where the PS2 exploded in sales. The PS3 probably has another 7 years of sales left. It can easily end up in the 120 to 140 million worldwide installed base range just by selling 15 million consoles a year as it drops through the 200, 150, and finally 100 prices.

[ConanOBrien]

wins!

[MajestieBeast]

Btw Hitomi Tanaka's bewbs>Ps3>wii>360

[shoddy]

MS having a 1mil ban console sales eminating so give it

another month and ps3 will pass xbox globaly not just

NA that count.

[DORMIN]

I've got this sudden urge to google the word hentai

/sarcasm

On topic: Once GT5 hits, it gonna get crazy!

[doa766]

if the numbers are not accurate it doesn't matter, if it's not now then it will happen in a few months

BUT BY NOW IT'S A FACT THAT MICROSOFT WILL END THIS GENERATION IN THE LAST PLACE

[insomnium]

Great post minsky. bubs up for interesting.

[doa766]

living on a country where the PS2 and the 360 games sold are 100% pirated I can tell you that there's a bigt piracy factor is sales that most people are counting on

the PS2 sold millions and millions of units to people who never bought a game, just like the 360

had the PS3 been hacked soon after hitting the market and for real(jailbreak is very limited) the sales number would've past the 360 at least 2 years ago

there's literally millions of PS2 owners who opted for the 360 only because it's 100% hacked and they never bought a game, and those people are much more than the ones who bought a PS3 just to play blu rays

if you take that into account plus the millions of 360 that were damaged and thrown away, the PS3 userbase is much bigger than 360s

[mastiffchild]

With the RROD/E74 and YLOD variables plus the banned yearly 360 numbers what we really need to know is how many actual working PS360s there are in the wild. I've always thought the number of each actually in circulation must be closer than sales indicated and if this is accurate(which, like all sales data, it won't be) then the difference could be big in PS3's favour-but who knows?

[The Lazy One]

@"Let me ask you a question. How do movies studios keep up with how much money their movies make from ticket sales?"

HAH. they don't. They do the same thing that microsoft and sony do. They call 5 large retailers/theaters and estimate the total sales.

There's still a buttload of theatres that don't even have computers for their tickets.

[Masamori Sumimura]

0__0

I'm pretty sure the xbox360 still has a 800K + Lead on the PS3.

[ShinMaster]

Under 1mil is practically a tie.

From 8 mil to 800k, that's one hell of a fast selling PS3, considering it's launch price and all that.

And even if 360 really was at 45mil, Sony needed to have sold 5mil more PS3s than 360 within a shorter amount of time, to cut the gap from 8mil to 3mil.

[DemiT]

According to the official Quarterly statements,

Sony has sold 41.6million ps3s, while
MS has sold 44.6m 360s.

http://www.scei.co.jp/corpo...
http://www.microsoft.com/in...

Both MS and Sony have officially stated that they report "recorded sales".

This is the truth.
Even if the ps3 fanboys disagree, it is still the truth.
If you don't believe me, then ask me for links.
Better still, do your own homework.

[shoddy]

2 months from now xbox gonna be 3rd place.

I won't make fun of it for being 3rd cause I don't care for sales.

[OneSneakyMofo]

It doesn't make a difference. Gran Turismo 5's coming up. That alone will sell a million+ consoles within a month.

PS3 will surpass the 360 in sales by April 2011. Bookmark my words.

[vhero]

them quarterly statements by MS are numbers shipped (sold to retailers) not numbers sold. We already know they are devious for it.. It clearly say it on the statement.. Sonys numbers however are consoles sold to customers..

[mint royale]

Sony's numbers are not sold to consumers they are consoles sold. How many people have misinterpreted that 2006 statement by Sony!? They don't report 'sell-through' which would be numbers to consumers but 'sold' which is what they have sold to retailers (the retailers are the ones that buy off Sony!). Before 2006 Sony reported numbers produced. Nothing wrong with that, thats just how they did it. So they reported that they changed from shipped to sold. Simple.

Nintendo have never made any such statement of changing, despite many claims on here, that helps certain posters with their stories. Nintendo have always reported sold to retailers.

Same with MS. Their numbers are not sold to consumer but sold to retailers. The 45 million that Greenburg claimed was not to consumers, as if he would report lower numbers, he always talks about numbers sold to retailers.

[10thnightvolley]

looooool look at all the ps3 fans agreeing with that article just a site with a number on it... and all those figures FAIL..

ps2 did 140 million plus... FACT. not 120mil

ps3 is about 41 now.

xbox360 is 45mil..

so some anime porn site post numbers and all of a sudden is more credible that major game site and u all rush to agree.. that is sad.!

[THunt]

PS2 is over 150 million according to the latest numbers.

It really is amazing to see just how far vgchartz has been lying about sales numbers.

[zootang]

You boys are sad, clinging on to that year. The PS3 has outsold the 360 fact!

Years at market 360 vs PS3

2005 vs Not out yet
2006 vs 2006
2007 vs 2007
2008 vs 2008
2009 vs 2009
2010 vs 2010

Now what are them totals again?

[SonyPS360]

Actually it's over a million ahead still.

[Oner]

There are those that make claims with NO FACTS to comment their "opinion"...and then there are those who make statements that are verifiable WITH FACTS to uphold their comments. Here is my proof from the Sony internal reports/documents ~

"Beginning with Q1 FY07, the method or reporting hardware and software unit sales has been changed ***from shipments to recorded sales***"

Page 4 ~ http://www.sony.net/SonyInf...

Page 1 ~ http://www.sony.net/SonyInf...

Nintendo & Sony for YEARS have counted SELL THROUGH (to consumers) for their consoles. While MS has NEVER changed from using SELL IN (to retailers).

This has been PROVEN ad nauseam time and time again. But there are still a few who hold on to misinformed BS because of a biased agenda.

[mint royale]

Hello Oner.

THe mistake your making is the fact that you think that report means they have changed to sold to consumer. 'Recorded sales' is what they changed to. Who buys off Sony - the retailers! That is where their recorded sales are. Sony used to announce units produced, but now rocorded sales. Not that hard.

OH and please find a link to where Nintendo supposedly changed the way they report in 2006. They have always reported sold to retailers.

MS too report sold to retailers so your right there.

Also Oner you mention sellthrough as being used by Sony. That is sometimes true for little upda but never on these quarterly reports.

Its not a biased agenda if its right :) No doubt I'l be labelled a MS fan even though I don't like the company.

Anyways regards Oner, even though you won't listen to anything I've had to say :)

[Oner]

My comment below @ #2.1.7 (the last 5 links) already disproves your opinion...again. Plus I still see no "proof" that supports your comments ANYWHERE at all.

[wii ftw]

I don' think it does end the argument. At 2.1.7 you spend most of it proving that MS reports sold to retailer which everyone agrees with....

Also Major Nelsonhas changed his numbers now but people seem to ignore that... But even so, MS probably had sold around 42 million to consumers as of Septmeber 30th.

However you have not provided any evidence from sony that they changed to consumer on their financial reports so NO you haven't proved anything. Actually read what Sony said they had changed to - recorded sales - NOT to consumers! Sony and any other company for that matter may use sell through but not in the financial reports. You haven't proved that they sell to consumer on these reports because you can't. And please leave sites that also have go tthe wrong end of the stick out of this.

This is all pointless anyway because the 2 consoles have sold in a virtual tie - if you want to see domination that actually matters look at the ps2 or wii.

Also do you want people to find proof of sony saying actually they dont report to consumers? This is a non-subject to them or their rivals because they actually know the truth, they don't have to come out to disprove fanboy misconceptions.

[frostypants]

Quote, FROM MICROSOFT: "We **shipped** (emphasis added) 2.8 million Xbox 360 consoles during the first quarter of fiscal year 2011, compared with 2.1 million Xbox 360 consoles during the first quarter of fiscal year 2010."

Fiscal year 2011 is through this past September. If you look at their numbers, that "2.8 million SHIPPED" is what they put on their sales chart, that also reflects the 44.5 million total. Translation: Microsoft numbers are SHIPPED, and that applies to the 44.5 million as well...unless they are putting numbers from completely different contexts on the same charts (obviously, they are not).

Further, Sony has explicitly stated that they report SOLD instead of SHIPPED.

@"mint royale", your entire claim assumes that when Sony reported "shipped", they were actually reporting "manufactured". This is of course complete nonsense. A company cannot ship that which has not been ordered by a retailer, thus "shipped" IS retailer purchases. Thus, when Sony made the switch, they indeed were talking about consumer sales.

As of the end of September Sony had SOLD 41.6 million units to CONSUMERS.

In summary, as of the end of September, we know the following:

PS3s sold TO CONSUMERS: 41.6 million
360s sold TO RETAILERS: 44.5 million

This is from their own literature, and the sold vs. shipped reporting methods are demonstrable and demonstrated fact, so please people, stop throwing up that strawman. The stockholders sure as hell know it.

How close the systems truly are in terms of consumer sales is entirely dependent on how much Microsoft is stuffing the channels.

And even then, odds are that the PS3 actually has the bigger INSTALL BASE, given the likely number of 360s that were replacements.

None of this matters from a gaming perspective, of course. It's only interesting as a comparison of how two companies distribute financial information and the means by which they leverage them to compete.

[BigTwitchy]

Well I like 360 more than PS3. Lets see how many disagrees I get.

[mint royale]

@frostypants

Where did you get that from? SHIPPED to sony was units produced - the untils produced were SHIPPED to their warehouses. When retailers made the order they SOLD them to them. Companies produce what they expect to sell to retailers - thats why we see company projections of future sales etc so they know how much to produce.

Your misunderstanding comes from a different idea of what shipped and sold is. To us shipped = retailers, sold = consumers. However to compamnies - shipped = units produced for their warehouses, sold = their sales to retailers - unit sales.

Sony have never said they mean consumer sales in their financial reports. Simple.

I agree that MS figures are retailers thoguh.

[Hideo_Kojima]

Its not 3..2..1.. FIGHT!
Its 3..2..1.. FINISHED!

[The Lazy One]

mint royal is right.

Seriously, how would any company track 40+million units sold to consumers? They'd have to gather information from hundreds of thousands of retailers internationally to get an accurate number. A good number of retailers don't even have a good way to report their inventory. They'd have to employ a team of people just to compile all that data, which is useless to their investors, and then have a team of lawyers to figure out how to collect that data for each region.

Nobody tracks sales to consumers because it's just stupidly difficult and doesn't provide any useful information to anyone except internet trolls. Both use estimates (similar to what NPD does but internal) by using an algorithm that calculates based off of several large retailers.

[xAlmostPro]

good news for sony xD

and as for the 360 having sold 45+ million.. those numbers are based on 'shipped to' i do belive..last i heard anyway

these numbers are probably more accurate, im not saying there exact but yeah

[n4gno]

@bigtwitchy, in a perfect world, where quality, value, variety, inovation are the key, you'll probably have 99% disagree.

[Patrick]

For those that keep saying stupid things like "How can Sony know how many PS3 have been sold to people?" let me tell you about little things called COMPUTERS. Each item in a store has a particular bar code on it that is just for that product and it identifies what it is and how much it cost. They also have these "computer" things that keep tally of what is sold and what is not, this data gives the retailers such as Walmart an idea of what is selling and what is not to know what they need to order more of and what they dont, what they need to push more and what they dont, where they need to place the items that sell well and so on. Now, in the old days they had to take inventory by simply going thru the whole store and counting what they had and what they didnt, but now days the "computers" mostly keep up with that data. Most stores (like Walmart) can even tell you if you bought a larger item (PS3) at their store or not.
They share this info with manufacturers (Sony) so they know how well a particular product (PS3) is doing. Come on guys, is 2010.. get with the tech, its really very simple (computers do all the work and all you have to do is READ the data)
(oh and most ALL retailers have computer systems now days, and if they dont, you can be sure they are not selling things like PS3's.)

[DMason]

MS has a 4 million unit lead on the PS3. Where did these bogus numbers come from even?

[DMason]

Youre incorrect. Both companies use units shipped, not sold. Not even Sony. Sony's Move numbers were also shipped to retailer numbers. They got caught up in that lie just 2 weeks ago, remember?

[The Lazy One]

@Patrick:

you didn't read my post. There are computers, but not every company has it's inventory on a network, let alone a network connected to the internet that they're willing to share with another company.

There are thousands of small retailers that sell millions of systems that would just be a waste of time for sony to track down.

For sony to accurately track sales to consumers they would have to get a hold of the information for every single retailer. It would take them months just to work through the paperwork to get the inventory for walmart or best buy and that's assuming walmart and best buy track the lifetime sales of products rather than their current inventory and the rate at which they are selling.

[ShinMaster]

To have sold 5 million more than 360 within the same amount of time in order to cut the gap from 8mil to 3mil (or 1mil according to this article) proves so.

[Patrick]

Oh ok.. So they can get Sony the "How many PS3's we need for stock" info, but not the "How many PS3's we sold" info? .... oh.. ok. That makes.. perfect.. sen... ok no thats bad logic. I disagree. Give me the names of some "small" retailers that actually sell PS3's, cause I cant think of a one. Also, Sony doesnt necessarily have to get the info directly from the store (although I am sure they do, reported to Sony probably when ordering more) but Sony could estimate how many sold by how many more a store orders, Say Walmart can stock 50 PS3's and sells 25 so they order 25 more. Sony would know this and could assume they sold 25. But like I said, The stores report it to Sony. And what kind of mom and pop store actually sells a $300 or more computer gaming system but doesnt have a way to report it to the place they ordered them from? Come on, really?

[Blitzed]

I have never seen someone contradict themselves so many times in one thread. So, by your statement, when MS and Sony are reporting units 'shipped', its is to their warehouse? Then you go on to write 'I agree that MS figures are retailers thoguh.' So which is it, shipped to retailers or shipped to their warehouse?! So when Sony says 'sold' they mean 'shipped' to retailers and when they say 'shipped' they mean to a warehouse. However, when MS says 'shipped' it's to retailers?! Give your head a shake dude, you are running in circles.

[Dee_91]

when ps3 came out it was what .. 5mill behind ? ( just guessing)
iono how much its behind now really dnt care
but my point is its selling faster than the xbox 360

[colombiankilla01]

I dont see whats the point of this news!!! Even if xbox has 2 Million over Sony, they have over 10 Million in the garbage! does people even buy xbox anymore, they are ether replacement units or being used as heaters in Alaska!!!

[units]

try 3 million

[PostApocalyptic]

I disagree. I think it's more like 810K lead on the PS3. I was downtown and found 10K 360s just sitting there in a wearhouse collecting dust and a M$ truck driving off into the darkness.

:P

[The Lazy One]

@Patrick: where I used to live (menomonie WI) there was a video game store that sold new and used games that was a mom and pop store that doesn't even have a website. Where I live now there are a bunch within 20 miles. Gametech, Record Head, King and Son's Video Games, Disc Go Round, Play N Trade, and a couple Mega Media Exchanges.

Believe it or not there are more stores than walmart, bestbuy, and target in existence.

[Patrick]

Ok so I found 4 out of the 6 stores you named that had websites, just google searching their names. I bet they all have one but the other two are not as straight forward adding a .com to their names. I also bet they all have a way to report their PS3 sales to Sony just like they have a way to ORDER PS3's from Sony.. give it up.. its the age of information. Your out of excuses, you know, unless their cash register dings and plastic numbers pop up into a window on the top...

[The Lazy One]

@patrick: and who's going to compile the information from these thousands of retailers? How are you going to collect it? You think every retailer is going to give sony access to it's inventory? What's the motivation for the companies to report anything? Is sony going to give them a discount for reporting their sales? Who's going to verify the numbers? What happens if one of the retailers reports more or less sold than are actually sold? What happens if a retailer accidentally hits an extra 0 or two? Why does sony even want to know how many it's selling to consumers? You think their investors care about money sony never sees?

Believe what you want for all I care, but no company reports that way because it's useless information that would cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars to compile accurately. Not to mention many large retailers won't even disclose their product sales (Walmart for example).

Until you answer the questions above, I will assume you admit defeat whether or not you want to accept it.

[SaberEdge]

The Lazy One, DMason and mint royale know what they are talking about. Anybody disagreeing with them is simply ignorant. All 3 console makers report the number of consoles sold to retail. They do not have the means or motive to uncover how many have been sold to individual customers.

[Patrick]

You act like this info is so hard to keep up with but companies do it EVERYDAY, they keep up with info from thousands of people with accounts, like credit card companies and banks do, how do they do it, oh my gosh it must not be possible, its all a sham, the banks and credit card companies must just make it up, we are all being screwed... ahhhhhh...lol
Let me ask you a question. How do movies studios keep up with how much money their movies make from ticket sales? who's going to compile the information from these thousands of theaters? How are you going to collect it? You think every theater is going to give studios access to it's ticket sales? What's the motivation for theaters to report anything? Are the studios going to give them a discount for reporting their ticket sales? Who's going to verify the numbers? What happens if one of the theaters reports more or less sold than are actually sold? What happens if a theater accidentally hits an extra 0 or two?

Now your just pulling stupid questions out of your backside. Fact is this info isnt hard to keep up with being a BIG business like Sony, retailers arent as stupid as you try to make them out, and this day and age computers .. well, compute alot of info for us.

Oh and give up on this, "You must answer all my questions or your WRONG" crap. Im too old to play games with a little kid." grow up and get a job and youll see that the worlds a big amazing place where all kind of info can be found. I'm out.

[dragunrising]

Whats really sad is all the Playstation kiddies clapping their hands in glee because of a number. Good to hear that sales are oh so important. Hypocrates much? The bottom line is that it never mattered how much either console sold. As long as everyone gets to play their console of choice, everyone should be happy.

Food for thought: Xbox 360 has routinely outsold the PS3 since the release of the Xbox 360 S worldwide. The launch of Kinect will surely keep it in the lead.

Edit
As already mentioned, the numbers are incorrect anyway. Its funny that now that the PS3 is close numbers wise the most rabid fanboys are claiming the x360 is doomed. This is faulty logic in so many ways. As long as people are buying the console in the millions and games in the tens of millions AND MS is making a profit, its not a fail. Is the PS2 still a successful console "today" even though most publishers discontinued to make games for it? Yes. When the next generation of consoles come out, they will be vastly dwarfed by the current gen; will they be a failure until they're superceded? No.

How about this tidbit: Call of Duty: Black Ops on the xbox 360 will sell 50% more than the PS3 version. Is the PS3 full of fail also?

[gaden_malak]

" Xbox 360 has routinely outsold the PS3 since the release of the Xbox 360 S worldwide"

Yet the gap has shrunk...Might want to taste your thought food, it seems a bit stale.

[supremacy]

Granturismo 5?

And the rest of ps3 exclusives coming before and after gears of war 3?

I mean... ps3 owners (the way I see it) will for the most part, be playing new games, exclusive games at that in..say...

Littlebigplanet 2
Infamous 2
Motorstorm apocolypse
Killzone 3
Twisted metal
Resistance 3
Ratchet and clank all 4 one
Starhawk
Socom 4 special forces
Mlb 2011
Agent
The agency
Dc universe

And many more.. Also i am sure a few psn updates are coming as well so yeah..

[Cloudberry]

.
Also...

YAKUZA 4, in March 15th 2011.

[MeatPopsicle]

"And many more.."

The Last Guardian
ICO/Shadow of the Colossus Remaster

[Da One]

Disgaea 4
Ar Tonelico Quoga
White Knight Chronicles

[Nathaniel_Drake]

The sad part is PS3 has the sales and the games now, so the 360 only has cross game chat, awesome.

Honestly the 360 really needs to release more games for the system, it's really just hanging on console content

Edit: oh yeah you forgot Sly Cooper HD collection

[xAlmostPro]

50% more you think so? LOL and the PC will sell more than the 360 ;) anything to help absorb the damage of your beloved console being outsold..

[snp]

Xbox 360 has routinely outsold the PS3 since the release of the Xbox 360 S worldwide.
---

Do you have numbers on that? Let's say Germany, France, Italy, Spain and Japan...

Start with those ~400 million people, and then break it down a little further...

I don't really care which system is at where, frankly, and agree with your basic point that both of them are doing fine regardless which is a little ahead (and people get a bit silly pretending that isn't the case) - but i find this claim you've made in the quoted bit above, which i see repeated consistently (by various people) in these type of discussions, quite strange.

Is the sole source of this disinformation (so it seems..) that awful VGChartz, or - with the exception of the odd bit of good news in Australia or the UK (these are the only two i've ever seen anyone 'try' to provide information on - outside the US) - do you have something substantial to back up this presumption; this 'routine outselling of the PS3 worldwide since the Xbox360 S' that's being declaimed as fact...?

Because, i mean it quite earnestly, i've never actually seen anything to back up that claim (regardless how boldly it's always stated). And virtually all the reports on these countries outside the US individually show the opposite (both hardware and software - in some cases XBox360 struggles to get one or two games on many of these population large countries top 20 games lists). And the quarterlies - even presuming they both do announce shipped (i have no idea and have no interest in getting into that debate) - show the PS3 selling an extra 800k last quarter...

I'm just not sure where this presumption of the Xbox360 S outselling the PS3 'worldwide' (as opposed to in the US, or in bits of the UK or Oceania or something) comes from...

[chidori soukou]

Ps3 games will donimated in 2011 like resistance 3, killzone 3 , uncharted 3, gran turismo 5, infamous 2, twisted metal 2, Agent, and mass effect 2. Oh yeah mass effect 2 steal 360 exclusive. So now ps3 take mass effect 2. And halo reach is struggly compared to halo 3. I think resistance 3, gran turismo 5 and uncharted 2 will ousold halo reach.

[BubloZX]

but for the most part your right

[dtalon3]

HALO REACH IS STRUGGLY? lol what are you dumb?

Funny to see how many Ps3 fanboys bashed Mass effect when it was exclusive but as soon as they can get their greasy number counting fingers on it they smear it in 360 owners faces.

if the ps3 was so far back in sales and was still able to make it...even if god forbid *gasp* playstation does sell 100k more than the 360...who FUCKING CARES? M$ is not going out of business because ps3 got the lead.

oh hey btw why don't ps3 owners buy games? the store I work at has over 700 pre orders for COD:black ops on the 360 and less than 400 for ps3...way to widen the gap blu ray owners.

I own both systems and will enjoy whatever games come my way for them. This petty I sold more than you did shit is soooooo played out. is M$ or sony gonna come give you a handjob if you fight harder for em? no? didn't think so.

[CryofSilence]

Your use of CoD:BO preorders as an analogy fails as it is subjective and unverifiable, nor is it even remotely global. Besides, the majority of PS3 owners I know, including myself, don't want to buy CoD. Your argument would be less frail if you had posted official console-game attachment numbers -- whichever way they may be.

[LOOK_AT_THIS_I]

@dtalon3
you come off sounding as a fanboy for xbox talking about sales and then bitch about it later in your post. I dont have to buy brand new games every single release as I have the option to rent/buy used due to my blu ray discs not scratching and having the option of multiple games to choose from.

How many copies of xbox/old ps2 games did people have to purchase due to wear and tear, scratches, etc... I know I had to repurchase a few copies of socom last gen due to scratches.

as far as cod pre-orders being less on the ps3 could contribute to the fact that there are more than 2 games (halo/gears) besides multiplats to choose from rather than on the other console, or perhaps the fact that activision shows a bit too much favoritism to one console and treat their customers like crap. Why the hell would anybody with a clue support bad customer treatment.

[baodeus]

http://www.sony.net/SonyInf...

How about interpreting this:

"Beginning w/ Q1 FYO&, the method of reporting hardware and software unit sales has been changed from production shipments to recorded sales". Bottom of page 6 (link above). (under unit sell).

So does it say sell to actual customers or just renaming production shipments (which are shipment to retailers) to just sales?

Where do people get the sales to actual customers from?

@Cryosilence:

"Besides, the majority of PS3 owners I know, including myself, don't want to buy CoD. That is true for you, but the Majority of PS3 owners (not you or people that you know, which i doubt isn't that many) think otherwise (Just look at the numbers of CoD sold on Ps3 compare to other games right now).

[PS360fanboy]

...it couldn't be farther from the truth. It's completely inconceivable if you mind that last week the XBox 360 was 4 million ahead.

[showtimefolks]

that's why they were ahead now sony is deal with it lmao

i am sorry just kidding funny thing is how xbox360/ps3 fans argue yet wii has the lead why are we fighting for 2nd position lol

[tinybigman]

When my friend sent me this article at work I told him this full cause a full scale war.

[zeddy]

the nsfw in this headline is what made everyone click it.

[wissam]

And the winner is.....

[yourfather]

PlayStation 2: 120,000,000

huh?what the hell of Tose,are they burned around 25million PS2?

[syanara]

this fight is NSFW LOL i thought it sounded funny on the article!

[Mike134nl]

In a perfect world everybody would own both consoles and the number would always be a tie. And nobody would have too fight over something as trivial as which big company sold the most.

[n4f]

i dont care all i did is cliking on the nsfw

[tacosRcool]

bubbles for you!

[Scary69]

Sony REJOICE!!! :-O

[showtimefolks]

i am a ps3 fan i know for a fact by the time its all set and done ps3 will have more sales than wii/xbox360. That was perdicted by people who do NPD

wii is slowing down we already see that halo reach came and gone so what's next gears 3 oh that's not gonna sell new systems.

anyone who think MS is gonna stick with 360 for another 4-5 years is just plain stupid it doesn't make sense for them business wise

what i do care about is GAMES and that's why i choose playstation brand over any other

[timmyrulz]

PS3 has outsold the 360?

Haaaaa haaaaa haaaa haaaaa haaaa haaaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaa haaaa haaa

Have i fallen asleep and woken up on April fools day?

[jden28]

GOOD GOD PEOPLE...TAKE A BUSINESSE CLASS OR SOMETHING. Please stop acting like your wishes, hopes, dreams, and opinions are facts they are not and facts are easily proven. Sony DOES NOT RECORD SOLD THROUGH TO YOU they can not do that. They have no idea how many units gamestop, walmart, or best buy are warehousing or have in stores period. You are not sony's direct customer...They are a manufacturer and they sell wholesale to retailers who in turn sell to you. Recorded sales simply means they no longer count the units that have been manufactured but are being warehoused until time of puchase. Do you all know what a Manufacturer to wholesaler to retailer to you mean? Now Microsoft reports both shipped and sold at different times this has always been a problem and seems confusing. It's also how they achieved there 10 million sold before ps3 shipped target... Basically at that time they were recording only shipped numbers and its why they seemed to have sold fewer consoles in 2006 than ps3 because they'de "Stuffed" the retail channel with millions of extra units that it took retailers months to sell Which is why later in 2008 they begain reporting sold to retailers numbers.

[MattyF]

MS revealed their stats not long ago and they stated over 45 million units sold. Sony also revealed their total sales figures and it was 41.6. So this information isn't accurate.

MS Figures: http://n4g.com/news/637714/...

Sony: http://n4g.com/news/635907/...

[All_4_One]

No, that`s false. Greenburg wasn`t on record, and can twist and spin the numbers any way he likes.

The official numbers are:

PS3: 41.6
360: 44.5

[MattyF]

Regardless of .5mill units, it's still a far cry from the numbers given in this report spotting the 360 over 3 million fewer units than officially revealed.

[GTmonster]

just wanted to make this for examiner and get hits

[DemiT]

@ All_4_one

No, that's false.
The official numbers actually are
ps3: 41.6
360: 44.6

People keep repeating that Ms reported 44.5 sold when in fact, they reported 44.6.
Pay attention people... this is how FUD is born!

edit:
I just gotta laugh at all the weak fanboys that disagree with facts:
http://www.scei.co.jp/corpo...
http://www.microsoft.com/in...

[MURRKERD]

it clearly states in their financial report......FACT

[strickers]

I thought this site was PS3 dominated and yet you get 29 disagrees and 5 agrees(I'll add mine in a sec)for reporting the figures from the actual financials.Idiots.

[StanLee]

I applaud all you guys who posted the official figures reported by both companies but when did facts ever matter at n4g.com; or common sense for that matter?

[Oner]

@ Murrkerd ~ Correct.

Using MS's own words, on their own reports, it shows they use "Sell In/Sold to Retailer". Here is the proof ~

If you go here ~ http://www.microsoft.com/in...

under "Key Performance Indicators (KPI)" it states 2.8 Million Units were "sold" during the first quarter of fiscal year 2011

But yet on the same page here ~ http://www.microsoft.com/in...

if you select the "Performance" Link it specifically states this

"We shipped 2.8 Million Xbox 360 consoles during the first quarter of fiscal year 2011"

This confirms MS uses the LTD Xbox 360 unit "sales" of 44.6 (same as the previous investor amount news) as "Sell In" or "Sold to Retailer" for their total amount calculations of the 360. Which would lead one to believe the "slip up" by Major Nelson about there being 42 Million 360's sold around the world is actually what is "Sell Through (to consumers)"

And if you go up to my #1.2.11 comment above I show the proof where Sony states they changed FROM shipped (Sell In) to sold (Sell Through) along with more supportive factual confirmation here ~

http://www.psu.com/PlayStat...

http://kotaku.com/357883/ps...

http://kotaku.com/5157636/s...

http://www.edge-online.com/...

http://spong.com/article/19...

[xAlmostPro]

your both wrong the 44.5 million were calculated by SHIPPED to

sony and nintendo calculate sales by SOLD TO(which is based on how many units are purchased FROM retailers, not shipped to them)..

So although this article is not 100% correct its far closer to the factual sales than what you guys are stating..

Its more around 360 42million, ps3 41.2 million..

[ShinMaster]

But in that same article that you showed, Major Nelso says:
"Later that day, Major Nelson posted on his site that 42 million Xbox 360 consoles were sold"

Lol, something tells me they don't know their own numbers and got lost counting the refurbs and re-sold 360s.

[MattyF]

Yeah, and if you continue to read it, you'll notice he later revised it to 45 million units. Nelson posted incorrect information with the 42 million and later revised it to 45 million.

[-Mezzo-]

Is funny how you believe that Major Nelson was wrong & GreenBurg wasn't.

[ShinMaster]

I think they came to a mutual agreement.
Greenburg is a face for Microsoft and Xbox. So better Nelson be wrong than Greenburg.

And even if 360 really was at 45mil, Sony needed to have sold 5 mil more PS3s than 360 within a shorter amount of time, to cut the gap from 8mil to 3mil.
Which is impressive, imo.

[gaden_malak]

Yeah I'd take Nelson over Greenburg.

[nickjkl]

theirs something about presenting numbers

having the comptetitor release their numbers

and then changing your numbers all together

[Nathaniel_Drake]

Damn, it's shipped why is that hard for people. MS sold to stores or shipped. Last time I checked it was a 400,000 unit different with the 360 leading, so I don't know where Famitsu got their numbers

[All_4_One]

Eh, I`ll go by the official numbers, which puts the PS3 behind the 360 by 2.9 million units.

It`s not like it matters, if the trend continues the way it has been it won`t be much longer before the PS3 pulls ahead of the 360.

[DemiT]

What's really funny is that the official numbers that you quote are wrong.

Here's what the actual numbers are:
ps3: 41.6
360: 44.6

That leaves the 360 ahead by 3.0 million.
http://www.microsoft.com/in...
http://www.scei.co.jp/corpo...

[ThatIrishGamer]

PS3 - sold to CUSTOMERS.

XBOX360 - sold to RETAILERS.

I'm a retailer and we have 40+ XBOXES in stock. Multiply all those by the amount of RETAILERS on earth and take that away from the figure you've given and that is the amount sold to CUSTOMERS.

[mint royale]

For the millionth time. Sony have never said they have reported sold to consumers on their financial reports. Read the report again if you don't understand. They announced they changed from shipped to units sold. Units sold to Sony is sold to retailers as the retailers buy off them. SOny used to report units produced (shipped).

Although now the sales are so clse the ps3 must have an actual bigger userbase, factoring in the effects of RROD.

[Anon1974]

http://www.psu.com/PlayStat...

http://kotaku.com/357883/ps...

http://kotaku.com/5157636/s...

http://spong.com/article/19...

"One key factor to remember about these figures are that they do not count for consoles shipped. Sony has always had a strong belief and following of only counting actual consoles sold to their official numbers."

"...those who like to dabble in the odd bit of conjecture and speculation should note that it's been Sony policy for a while now to count "sold" as sold, not shipped."

"Looking at the number, it's important to note that Sony - unlike many other companies - counts actual sales, not just units shipped to retail."

And from Sony themselves.
"We count installed base differently to (SCEE). We count the number of units in the hands of consumers."

"We calculate our install base by 'sell through' and have done for the last four years I believe", we asked for a little additional clarification...

"We classify 'sell through' as the number of units consumers have actually purchased from retail. 'Sell in' is the number of units we've sold to retail."

There's no room for confusion here, no misinterpretation.
Sony reports sold to customer.

(thanks to Morganfell for the links)

[frostypants]

"SOny used to report units produced (shipped). "

Units produced and units shipped are not even remotely the same thing.

[beardpapa]

mint your reasoning is so dumb

"Units sold to Sony is sold to retailers as the retailers buy off them. SOny used to report units produced (shipped).
"

okay if they used to report shipped, then where the hell were they shipping the units to? santa claus?

obviously shipped means shipped to retailers and that obviously means sold to retailers. They don't get them for free you know. So if Sony "used" to report shipped numbers and now sold, they're obviously reporting a different statistic. Gee, what other number could they possibly use? Sold to consumers or sold to tooth fairy?

[Sarcasm]

For the millionth time, do people not understand 1 year head start in U.S. and 1.5 years head start in EU? Which was an 8-10 million lead when the PS3 launched, now even if it's 3 million behind, simple math tells us that the PS3 has caught up by 5 million which tells us it has been outselling the 360 year over year worldwide.

[Kon_Artist]

360 had a one year start. remember guys.

[-GoldenTimeLover-]

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[10thnightvolley]

exactly... just goes to show with this kinect frenzy going about ps3 fan will agree with this from a pathetic website which has not facts and all its numbers wrong.. talk about desperation .loooool

[mike9077]

does it really matter what system sells better?

[cmrbe]

You see. The more consoles are sold the better the games i play will become. Last gen when the PS2 sold more than 100 million it made playing games like GOW much better.

[jack_burt0n]

yeah but it sort of does this gen, the more titles lead on ps3 the better the outcome for ps3 only gamers.

so yeah there is a gaming benefit to having a bigger platform.

[Nathaniel_Drake]

Yes it gives results which are very important to investors, which have influence on shutting down a gaming division. It also puts a fire under a company's butt to step up and bring out more games

[Consoldtobots]

not to mention it will finally shut the mouths of the worst thing to ever happen to console gaming.... 360 fanboys.

[KratosGirI]

Congrats to Sony!

[MajestieBeast]

Simple the numbers nelson gave were sold numbers the numbers greenturd gave were fiction. Is it really that hard to understand i mean it isnt the first time microsoft has lied about sales figures or faulty hardware.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

its not really big news,we all knew this was coming

[Jawmuncher]

God Damn the fanboyism is horrible here.
Who cares which one sells better there both great systems that have their pros as well as their cons.

[BeAGamer]

in my opinion, the PS3's pros far exceed that of the 360's.

[Nathaniel_Drake]

I agree, "GAMES" being the important attraction

[Canas2010]

And it continues.....

[KratosGirI]

For those who care:

In one of the pictures, it shows that the PS2 sold 120 million units while the DS sold 132 million units.

Does this mean this is also correct?

[MeatPopsicle]

PS2 is over 150 million worldwide in sales. It is almost outselling the 360 in 2010.

[Nathaniel_Drake]

Yeah, that I don't understand they are at 150 million

[Newtype]

Man....people use Sankakucomplex a lot for some reason....went from Manga news to Video game news....

[BornToKill]

"It's getting hot in here." Nelly.

[Balt]

Not yet but it will. Hell, if Sony would've released one big game this holiday they could've done it. They thought it'd be better that we had nothing new to play other than the waiting game for the games they did push back.

Ps3 will over take xbox 360 around May, and that is when the next price drop will hit too.

And when Sony outsells the box you all will know it. Sony will be pounding their chest themselves. Not some offbeat website.

[TekoIie]

Seriusly dude you need to stop moaning about sony not releasing a holiday game since in your past comments on other topics you have clearly pointed out that you dont like Racing, RPG, shooters and MMO's of any kind which leave only RTS so GO BUY A GOD DAMN PC AND STOP WASTING YOUR LIFE ON THE INTERNET!

[Canas2010]

There is still hope for GT5!

[Jazz4108]

Why would anyone think sony could record sales to consumers number one and then number2 they would also be giving a lower number then the competition by saying sold to consumers when common sense tells you that sony would only report sold to retailers not consumers. Anythinhg else just does not make sense.

[Grown Folks Talk]

that sales don't matter. I bet they will now all of a sudden.

[The Iron Sheik]

No they still don't, but it will be fun to see the 360 sales fanboys eat some crow.

[Grown Folks Talk]

i'm pretty sure it's mostly been the Sony side saying sales don't matter seeing as how they've been behind the entire time. While I agree sales don't = quality, the hypocrisy I see on this site everyday still makes me chuckle.

[visualb]

they only mattered to 360 fans, as PS3 fans tout "teh exclusives" and "teh graphics"

now however, with the gap closing...god knows what 360 fans will brag about...multi-plat graphics? kinect?

running out of crap to spew...and PS3 fans are...growing in crap =P the shit shifts from one side to the other =|

[frostypants]

Do they matter? No. We still get our games.

Is it fun to discuss? Sure.

I own both systems, btw. But it's clear Sony has outperformed Microsoft ever since the PS3 launch. They're clearly WELL inside the 1 year head start the 360 got.

[Sackdude]

Well PS3 has been outselling 360 in last 3 years. so it is obvious its gonna outsell the 360.

[Paracelsus]

Huh

Greenberg was probably referring to the end of October when he said 45 mln, not at the Q2 data, which means that if Sony said the same thing they would probably be well past 42 mln now.

[SilverSlug]

Microsoft sold 4 million units in a month. (Q2 ended in Sept)

[mint royale]

No but they may have sold 1 million considering they were at 44.6 end of sept and Greenburg would have been referring to end of october figures. Both figures of which would be retail sales. Some people really need to check their facts before they try and come across clever.

[MajestieBeast]

Also love how the 360fanboys from n4g invaded sankaku some of the comments are so 2007 omg 42mil ppl are watching bluray while 41 are playing games did i just end up in 2007 again
damn you time traveling ps3 DAMN YOU!

[xg-ei8ht]

Tis the season the be merry.

That's my name.

No sh%t

(national lampoons christmas)

360 fans run for cover, ban hammer is coming.

[Master of Unlocking]

Strange. How come when a "VaguelyGuessed Chartz" article reporting how the Xbox360 supposedly outsold the PS3 x week, y month, or z year, you have a flurry of websites playing parrots and a good dozen alternate sources at the top of the N4G thread...yet in this case there's only ONE alternate source???

This is exactly how all the lies and the F.U.D. have been possible during the last years.
Thank you "professional gaming journalism". Really, bravo.

...1 ...

[Kran]

Wow. People are so desperate for the PS3 to beat the 360 they come up with fake news. This is not true. Xbox 360 is 4 million ahead still.

[BubloZX]

the 360 is at most 2.5 million ahead.

[Jigsaw-]

you're in denial,it's only ahead by 2.9 million.

[ChilliDemon]

Objectively, the relative lifetime sales figures between the two consoles in question does matter.
However, the self-congratulatory gloating I have suffered from 360-owning friends, and their derision at my PS3 makes me care. I won't return the favour now that the tide is turning - I will just get on with enjoying my console of choice.
Of course we will see many 360 owners decrying that the figures are wrong, or that they don't matter .... but THEY have used these as some kind of justification for so long now. It's their bed - they should lay in it

[ElementX]

Big deal. It's not as though we, as gamers, have anything to gain by one company outselling another. Games are coming out for both systems. I own both systems and play both. Numbers are kind of fun to read, but it does get old after a while. Everybody knew the PS3 would eventually catch up. No need to congradulate Sony, they're just another corporation trying to sell their product.

[Damiann]

What's next? Another pricecut by MS:)

[rjgbyrne]

I'll take any of those figures with a pinch of salt. All gameshops here in Australia give much more space to Xbox and if you ask staff which console sells more on multiplats too I think you will get the same. Well done on SOny catching up but I still don't think there is much difference other than a blue-ray player between them, anyone saying there is has got their head up their arse. By the way, are Sony making a profit on PS3 yet? They did sell a lot cheaper than cost!

[rrw]

they did make profit around 2008 where manufacturing cost and material getting cheaper

[Nitrowolf2]

"Until I see PS3 with more Shelfspace in my local game shops"
Jesus christ reduced to shelve spacing

" if you ask staff which console sells more on multiplats too I think you will get the same."
Please do go to every ausralia shop and ask
you know what i find really funny? the fact that the PS3 exceeds 360 in software sales, kind of funny how people claim PS3 has sold less console then 360 right? I mean shouldn't it be the other way around since there are more 360 out there?

[IRetrouk]

I asked the same question in a game store in uk, i was told that its because microsoft pays for the space that they use, it was a manager who answerd me, coulda been talking out her ass but it sounds legit.

[krisprolls]

Looks like the 3rd place / last place console was the 360 after all.

Like we said long ago, the 360 will finish last, as usual.

[Pandemic]

What's with the (NSFW) in the title.....?

[arragion]

Not Suitable For Women

Some vaginas will get emotionally scared today,..

[perfectCarbonara]

It's not safe for work because eating crow in most working environments will get you fired.

[lelo2play]

Hummm... I guess this game developer Tose (never heard of them) know better then Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony how many consoles they have sold. /s

Really... who approves this crap?

Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft have presented their official sales numbers... why post crap statistics when you got official numbers?

[Master of Unlocking]

Damn, it was even faster than anyone predicted. Only 3,5 years after the console appeared on the market... ("Have you ever seen the bottom of a PS3's shoe?") well BAM! There it is! PS3's shoe on your face! And that's with all the major retailers in anglo-saxon countries promoting the 360 too, like rjgbyrne says. Incredible.

"Do not underestimate the power of the Playstation! (This has been an ad from the Anti-Playstation Committe)" just like that guy with the glasses used to say back then! XD

edit Uh oh, the xbugs are getting angry in here :D

[darkvenom]

Dark Sniper?,that guy cracks me up.

[R_aVe_N]

I have to say even though sales figures really mean nothing to me. It is always entertaining to read what people post on here lol. If Sony did catch up good job if not no biggy!

[Idree]

Time to celebrate this with sum pizza ;p

[gamejediben]

I would say that PS3 is, at the very least, tied with 360 in worldwide sales. But GT5 will, without question, be the final nail in the coffin of 360's 2nd place position. Hang tight Xbots, its all downhill from here. And to the Sony faithful, your faith is about to finally be rewarded. Congrats!

Enjoy the moment for what its worth because very soon, Sony will set its eyes on their mortal enemy Nintendo and the battle for console supremacy will kick into overdrive. I imagine Nintendo will bring their full IP gallery to bear against Sony in a desperate bid to defend their lead. I'm talking Star Fox, Zelda, Mario, Kirby, Pilotwings, Waverace, multiple Goldeneye sequels and every nostalgic trick in the book. It will truly be an epic war for Sony who, so far, have been able to defeat Microsoft's meager Gears/Halo/Forza/Fable offerings with their diverse 1st party games.

Sony will need to unleash every IP they have, new and old, to take Nintendo down. I can see multiple Twisted Metals, LittleBigPlanets, Infamous', Resistances, Killzones, Jak/Sly/Ratchets, GTs, Team ICO games, and every other franchise they have. Its not just great shooters that makes the Playstation brand enduring, its the diversity: something for everyone. Sony will need every bit of it to finally take the crown in this generation.

[MeatPopsicle]

The PS3 has another 6 to 7 years on the market. Most likely years longer than the Wii. I don't think it really is a question if the PS3 will pass the Wii in sales, just how long it will take.

[kasasensei]

I guess these guys know what they are talking about.

[Chuk5]

I have never really heard of this firm or development studio and the numbers don't even make sense. MS stated they've sold 44.6 million 360s. Even if you take that other number floating around out there, 42 million would have been sold. How did this company get
41 million. Furthermore, why is this truth? Just because it's pro sony? I'm not even arguing anything,I'm just pointing out the numbers don't add up.

[mattiebo123]

I'm not sure what to make of this to be honest. I personally don't believe that it's true, but a few months into 2011 the PS3 most likely will take over.

[BabyTownFrolics]

should be sending you guys your 2nd place medals real soon, playstation plus members get them a week earlier.

this sort of thing is so annoying, same folks talking the same shit. its like you get email alerts about flamebait articles with bad information and you just jump on it.

how about some civility and enough pretending like any of this shit really matters.

no civility then

[Figboy]

what matters is the CONTENT available on the platforms.

for me, personally, the PS3 has the lion's share of the games i want to play in the coming 6-12 months.

i don't even KNOW what's coming for the 360 next year outside of Gears of War 3 (i'm not a Gears of War fan, so i have no interest in Gears 3. i'm not a Halo fan anymore, although Reach was rather enjoyable, so i'm not interested in a new Halo).

i'd like some NEW IPs.

if anything, Sony has shown this generation a willingness to take chances on NEW IPs, in genres or with subject matter that isn't mainstream. Uncharted, Resistance, Motorstorm, Heavy Rain, Mod Nation Racers, The Last Guardian, inFAMOUS, HD remasters of PS2 classics (i don't think they really expected them to do as well as they have so far. i mean, damn, God of War Collection is at 2 million units?? REALLY?? Crazy!). those new IPs are now established franchises now. and i'm sure MORE New IPs are on the way before this generation is over.

Microsoft has shown that they will follow the market trends and throw something at the wall (along with gobs of cash), and hope it sticks.

yes, Sony most certainly copied Wii with the MOVE, but Microsoft just went in some other, illogical direction with Kinect. they were so preoccupied with making the next "gee whiz," tech, that they didn't stop to think of it's actual implementation in modern day gaming.

see, the thing about most revolutionary/evolutionary tech, is that it is definitely "gee whiz," but it also has strong applications in CURRENT technology.

DVD took off because it was a convenient way to watch and store movies, but FILM, and VHS, was still that core base.

Blu Ray took off because it was a convenient way to store high def content, and is a natural evolution for video games as a storage media (i mean, our World of Warcraft install is 23gigs, and that game is hardly setting the world on fire with graphical goodness).

the Wii remote is simply a new way to interact with ALREADY EXISTING game conventions and design aesthetics. that's why it caught on. the MOVE is just an evolutionary step from what the Wii has done (more precision = better control for motion games).

Kinect is trying to hard to be innovative. "You are the controller" is a GREAT tag line for marketing, but how is the reality of you literally being the controller in 99% of the genres in the industry that actually make MONEY?

FPS? Racing? Action? RPG? Sports? eh, not much practical application for Kinect in those HUGE genres.

basically, just about EVERYTHING coming out of Kinect will be niche. Move and the Wii are simply more applicable to gaming as it is now, and will be for the forseeable future.

there may be a spot for Kinect in 10+ years, but i can't see it being really useful at the moment. MS should just swallow their pride, slash the price of Kinect, and create a wand like the Wii remote and Move, and join the present. save Kinect for when motion gaming has actually GROWN and evolved to the point where we have a more solid design base to model Kinect technology from.

[ddelella]

Last time I saw the numbers Xbox 360 was over 45 million not 41. Who really cares who outsells who anyway? The thing that matters is which console is selling the games, online membership, and DLC. That is where the money is at. I would love to see the stats on how many of those PS3 owners use it soley for Blu-ray and not for gaming.

[ChilliDemon]

"Who really cares who outsells who anyway?"
... and yet people seem to do just that. And I also seem to recall a few years ago when the XBox360 had a huge lead on the PS3 in lifetime sales figures, and that seemed to be VERY important to a large number of XBox360 owners back then. The current relevence of this 'comparison' phenomena is simply a backlash from those days.
... and it's not as if this rivalry has no precedence. Been going on for decades in one form or another.

[SSKILLZ]

Owned. !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[joeorc]

the people posting that Microsoft investor report look under the :

http://www.microsoft.com/in...

notice this:
Key Performance Indicators (in millions, except unit attach rates) click that little report to the right...

it will bring up a little chart...it

the LTD #'s are at the end of SEPT was .

41.8

LTD Xbox 360 unit sales
an it's 44.6 for total ammount shipped for Q1 2011 which is not over with yet!

total at the end of SEPT the xbox360 LTD was about 400,000 lead.
like many people have already been saying...Even Microsoft confirms the total's you cannot have 45 Million when they only shipped a max of total 44.6 million that is by the end of Q1 2011 which is for not until after DEC will Q1 end for Microsoft they just started Q1 2011!

notice..41.8+2.8 wich is what microsoft shipped for Q1 2011 = a total 44.6 which is still less than 45 million which is what greenberg stated?

Hey your right that is sold, because it's still sold to retail, but if you want to go that way..just remember Sony already is just starting it's 3RD Q..for 2010 and still has until March 2011 to finish up their 2010 year.

at the end of SEPT for both companies Sony was only 400,000 away from tieing LTD Microsoft XBOX360 LTD world wide Number's.

[jeanm3306]

Mark my word SONY SUPER slim Ps3 is coming, wait till Microsoft tries to copy; it will be to late.

[Blaster_Master]

Sold. Shipped. Does it really matter? The ps3 is clearly the best console on the market. The 360 has been playing catch up since this gen has started IMHO. Lack of AAA titles being the verdict.

[Ruggadagod]

people realized that the PlayStation 3 is just the best gaming console this generation. it has the best features and games. don't give me that xbox live bull cause it doesn't work anymore. i had xbox live(expired the 6th and i didn't give a rat's a** about it) and it's no better than psn point blank. chad warden was right all along. an internet legend he will always be.

[BabyTownFrolics]

no like xbox

sony best

xbox poop

me win!

http://images.mylot.com/use...

in case its lost on you this is my dramatic interpretation of the conversation in this thread

[dragonclawf4]

jailbreak helped didn't it

[Aleusia]

Time to cash your chips in Microsoft, you're done.

[Iramo]

how are they done again the xbox 360,s sales surpassed the xbox 1's by about 20 million you think that Microsoft is gonna give up just because the competition has surpassed them by 1 million.If anything sony is gonna be the one clocking out due to all the money the ps3 made them lose.but this doesn't really matter according to ps3 fanboys sales don't matter do they?

[Jigsaw-]

M$ never made a profit on the first console,lost 1 billion on the 2nd. year headstart and still ended up in last.they will probably leave the business.

[Iramo]

they made up that billion dollars and are making a huge profit off xbox live and xbox live downloads alone I mean come on they made 1 billion dollars off xbox live last year xbox live alone. that's alot of money

[wissam]

Sony should thank the ps jailbearkers.lol

[joeorc]

@ Aleusia

I would not say "Time for Microsoft to cash in their Chip's"

their not Done, Unless the investors tell them too.The simple fact that Microsoft will no doubt sell over twice the number's of the first xbox with the xbox360, that's growth no matter how you cut it. Though there are some stipulation's that may make investor's grumble with that sales data, but that's going to happen anyway.

The largest problem is i think getting the xbox brand to grow in other countries that Microsoft has not been putting the xbox brand into those Market's, Micrsoft is still pretty new to this type of market.

Both Sony and Nintendo have been in this Market far longer and the area's that Sony an Nintendo ship their system's too world Wide is far greater than what Micrsoft has been able to do yet.

Because Both Sony and Nintendo have had the lead of over 10 year's on Microsoft building up their shipping channel's than Microsoft. Though the Investors may not look at it this way, but i hope they do not try to cut out early like Last Time with the first xbox time on market. the first xbox was a great system, in my opinion and so is the xbox360 aside from some of the problems the xbox360 had or has is still a pretty good game system.

At this point it's how the investors will see the xbox360 brand and how to move forward.

[eliasg]

The XBOX 360 is making more money than the entire SONY COMPANY. So profitability over Sales fanboys!!!

But this numbers are lies...

[artsaber]

What is going on @ this site? WOW, nevermind. I'd just say that a year head start with no next gen competition evaporated a lot quicker than most would think. Many fanboys were counting on that year head start to solidify the 360's place in ad least 2nd place.

I think that Microsoft needs a holiday price cut (even if just a little) to help get their numbers back up a bit. Kinect can only do so much, and it is not quite fair to expect Kinect to do all the work. Microsoft needed Gears 3 this holiday IMO... with GT5 coming out for the PS3, and Christmas around the corner... many that were on the fence now have all the excuse in the world to justify that PS3 purchase now.

[ChilliDemon]

I think that your query as to the whereabouts of 'Omega' might be seen as a sarcastic attack at that member. But it seems a bit over-the-top to call you on it IMO. People must be getting a little jumpy.

[Clarence]

We knew the truth would come out eventually.

[GeoramA]

Try a two-year head start next time you jackasses.

[Bellcross]

Wow and the PS3 isn't at $199 yet when it hits that price it will be like the PS2 all over again.

[KaiokenKid]

I swear its impossible to know who is telling the truth these days.

[DarkFantasy]

so,should we open a bottle of champagne or some thing?

[visualb]

this is more fanboy fodder than actual worthy gaming news...so as long as both consoles sell and hardcore games remain in production, I'm a happy camper (not literally, I HATE CAMPERS)

[joeorc]

@KaiokenKid

their both telling the Truth..greenberg just rounded up..which he himself may already have new shipment's for Microsoft's next Q2 2011, but the truth of the matter both Sony and Microsoft gave their official Number's and @ the end of SEPT Microsoft had total "shipped" number of unit's world Wide being 44.6 million world wide with their Number's @ the end of SEPT being 41.8 Million World wide that is the LTD sold through to the consumer.

Sony has not listed their shipped number's for 3rdQ: 2010 yet but at the end of their 2d Q: 2010 Sony had Sold through 41.6 million unit's world Wide. which put's it about 400,000 that the xbox360's world wide sell through was ahead at the end of SEPT 2010.

as it stands now pretty much between the xbox360 LTD world Wide and the PS3 LTD world wide number's the PS3 and the xbox360 are now tied if the PS3 shipment number's for 3rd Q 2010 show more shipped than Microsoft shipped 1st Q:2011.

Than most likely the PS3 has over taken the XBOX360 world wide which seems to be the case because in 3rd Q:'s Sony ship's more unit's for fall season and i would guess any where to 5.3 million to about 6.4 Million world wide shipped for Q3 2010 for Sony's fall season which would put it past Microsoft's 2.8 million they shipped Q1 2011.

Sony Ship's the playstation brand to over 90+ countries world wide it was only a matter of time. it was based on pure logistic's Microsoft has not been able to put the xbox brand into as many countries world Wide as Sony has with Playstation or Nintendo has with it's Nintendo game systems.

That's not spin or anything, Microsoft has not been in this market long enough to set up the distribution channel to do so yet.Notice i said yet!.

That takes Time which both Nintendo and Sony has had over 10 year's worth. vs. Microsoft's now 9 year's in this market space.

[Consoldtobots]

actually Sony has well over 20 years in the console business. 16 years on the market if they didn't get setback by Nintendo pulling out on their joint venture in the early 90's it would be 20 aswell.

[djfullshred]

Very close really when talking numbers that big. For gamers, it doesn't matter who sells the most, as long as there is healthy competetition to keep these companies continually driving to improve their products.

[Sparticus_1]

After reading all the mumble jumble crap....I wonder what the sales would be like if ps3 were out 1 year longer....definately a win there....now..with that being said...I have to go take a shit........adios.

[gypsygib]

To all the people disputing the number, whether or not they're right, it doesn't matter. It's inevitable that PS3 will overtake 360. Whether it's already happened or 6 month from now makes no difference.

Not that it matters, anyways, it's about games and PS3 overtook 360 a long time ago in that department.

[visualb]

I'd say once GT5 has released, basically by the Q1 2011, PS3 will have outsold 360, but not yet

cool, maybe multi-plat games will stop having the "left over" effect on PS3 from now on.

[Pledius]

I don't really listen to people who says "omg fanboys caring for sales"

sales matter to me because having more console base means developers are likely going to make better games because there's more people they can sell it to and make more money. Which means there's higher chance more high quality AAA titles will be made which is good for consumers

and also fact that sales number is that only thing that's keeping Xbox "fanboys" are clinging to, it's their last hope and I want to see their last hope getting crushed because I believe PS3 is alot more valuable than Xbox360; bang for the buck

[No Way]

There is a difference between caring if a console sells a lot..
And, caring about which console sells more. A big difference.

Also, the whole thing about more consoles sold means that there will be a higher chance of high quality AAA titles, is not 100% true. If there are 100 million PS3's, a game company just has to make a mediocre game, and could possibly sell to 10 million people.. That translates to, yup, a lot of money. So.. sales matter? Idk.

[djfullshred]

I think your point would only matter if a brand was clinging to life, casting a shadow of uncertainty to devs. At this time in the game, there is money to be made for developers, regardless which platform they are working with. There is no shadow of doubt that both brands are here to stay, with both having a large customer base.

[CombineElite]

With all the back and forth Fanboy rants going on in this thread, I wonder how many of you guys actual own Stock in either M$ or Sony? My guess less than 1% of you.

The PS3 catching the 360 even with it's 1 year head start was inevitable especially since the FAIL of HDDVD and the WIN of Blu-Ray. The 360 dominating for as long as it did was an amazing effort by M$ after that mortal injury.

If Sony and M$ weren't such good business partners Sony could have killed off the 360 years ago by simply throwing huge amounts of cash at developers to make games larger than 25GB and that would have killed the 360 off very quickly but instead M$ spent tons of money on timed exclusives and gave 360 gamers a fun ride.

It's no reason to argue over this but just enjoy your 360 until the 720 is released or go play some Sony Exclusives cause at the end of the day Sony and M$ will always get payed but do you gamers always get the best games?

[AWBrawler]

Nobody does, but it sure is fun to watch lol

[DXM1]

everyone is arguing about sales again... awesome.

Moving on... Has anyone looked at the ads on the sides of the article page? Lol...

[Master of Unlocking]

Exclusives: Done
Reliability: Done
Affordability: Done
Features: Done
Graphics: Done
Sales: Done

It's over bugs...
"ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!"
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !
:D :D :D :D

[sickbird]

VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

oh oops i mean who cares about sales..

[Mister_G]

ROFLMFAO! This means war! ;)

[AWBrawler]

Ahh beautiful beautiful flames!

Seriously though. Unless 360 learns how to sell in Japan and other areas that aren't US and UK, PS3 will eventually close the gap on them.
That is an unbiased opinion, because in all honesty I hope PS3 stays last so Sony learns there lesson, but It looks like that won't be the case.

[No Way]

Lol, it always amazes me that people on here like sales, so much.
Some even more so than the games, themselves. Play games, not sales. ;)

[PRHB HYBRiiD]

....so this means???

[abczby]

44.6 million units worldwide as of September 30th.

The statistics in this article are incorrect.

For the real statistics read this article at IGN:
http://xbox360.ign.com/arti...

[Simco876]

I don't trust these numbers, but when the PS3 does pass Xbox 360. I can't wait to see General MLD's video....

Crying in the corner

[abczby]

You happen to be the same group of people who are always claiming that sales don't matter.

When Halo outsells Killzone, you say that it doesn't matter and that Killzone is better.

When Gears of War outsells Uncharted, you, once again, say it doesn't matter and Uncharted is better.

And when Fable outsells Demon's Souls, you, as you always do, say it doesn't matter and Demon's Souls is better (which I would agree with :p).

So.....My point is, anyone who is trying to "claim victory", first off, the Xbox 360 actually still has a 3 million console lead on the PS3 worldwide ( http://xbox360.ign.com/arti... ), and there is no victory to be claimed.

They are just numbers you dirty hypocrite.

[Jigsaw-]

you mad? GT sells more than any game you mentioned there.1 year headstart and ended up in last,not to mention all the machismo that broke.

[Allowen]

Does not seems that the Wii will beat the PSone and much less the PS2 :

"PlayStation 2: 120,000,000

PlayStation: 102,000,000

Wii: 74,000,000

NES: 63,000,000

SNES: 49,000,000

PlayStation 3: 42,000,000

Xbox 360: 41,000,000 "

And wow, did the PS3 finnally beat the xbox360 ?! about time !

But what happened with those numbers of 44.6M or some thing ? was that shipped and not the total of the xbox360 sold ?

[AWBrawler]

This Gen isn't yet about over, and the Wii can potentially get 100 million+, especially if Nintendo keep it around until it dies out completely like what Sony is doing with PS2

[AWBrawler]

I mean my opinion was unbiased, as I prefer 360 over PS3, but PS3 seems poised to catch it saleswise

[LazrRocketArm]

Numbers from a PS3 developer?? Yeah, that sounds like an ubiased source to me.
Check out these numbers-(from independent source)
XBOX 360 44.4 mil
PS3 40.5 mil

http://vgchartz.com/

[zaz12]

it only does outselling

[cygnuszero2]

Serious business on the internet.

Honestly the day I become loyal to some piece of plastic and start caring about freaking videogame console sales is when I might just consider hanging myself with my own underwear.

Seriously, what kind of pathetic life must someone have to care about this crap? I play games, I dont care if noone else buys the things that I like.

[offdawall]

Ok forget all of this .... Every one knows ps3 will outsell 360 duhhh the gap is about 3.5 million lol and this is the kicker .

With a YEAR head start .. 600.00 launch price and even now ps3 is still 100.00 more lol this is so dam sad man

[ReBurn]

This thread has brought out every kind of number cruncher. It's great! It has those who say 360 is still way out ahead, those who like to align sales from release date to say that the PS3 has sold more, and those who just make stuff up to argue.

At the end of the day, does it really matter?

[SkylineR]

It DOES matter. That's all fanboys care about - those all important hardware numbers. They spend their whole Internet lives trolling articles like this.

[GoldPS3]

360 will be in 3rd place and when that day comes I will have a party.

[cygnuszero2]

What are you 10 years old?

[GoldPS3]

What are you, a pedophile?

[SnukaTheMan]

By then you will be able to drink alcohol....good for you kid.

[DaBadGuy]

Congrats, Sony.

If it's true, then awesome.

If it's not, then awesome.

I have both consoles, and a Wii.....but I have both consoles so it's doesn't confront me.

However....if PS3 outsells the Wii, I'll.....do something....I don't know what yet...something that doesn't involve anything being inserted into me.....but definately something memorable....

Ideas?

[wingman32x]

Sony Vs. Nintendo is great for gamers on both sides. Both companies have an awesome first party stable and you can bet they're going to use them.

It's good for owners of both systems. I own both, so I can't wait to see competition ramp up :).

This is going to be awesome.

[xX-PEIN-Xx]

I love how xbox fanboys don't care about sales now that the PS3 is catching up to and passing the 360. Now they say it doesn't matter ROFLMAO. Oh how the tables have turned!

[maxcer]

I love how ps3 fanboys care about sales now that the PS3 is catching up to and passing the 360. Now they say it does matter ROFLMAO. Oh how the tables have turned!

[SkylineR]

I'm guessing multiplatform games sell better on PS3 too... Cos hardware numbers means everything.

[xX-PEIN-Xx]

awww look at the butthurt xbox fanboy. Don't worry maxcer, you still have many 360 exclusives to look forward to like Gears 3 and...oh yeah thats right lol

[maxcer]

i have both consoles, so i dunno what was "butthurt" about my post. i was just showing how pathetic and hypocritical people are here at n4ps3. and the disagrees prove it. this is a sony cock sucking site and it shows.

[SnukaTheMan]

Never heard of them.......wow some people are really dying with this kinetec upsurge...

But really...outselling the xbox does not matter..there is allready a huge fanbase.

[Jigsaw-]

they came out first and ended up in last,yea there's something wrong there.also a poor installed base in japan and Europe is not a big fanbase.they are in last place now face it.

[SnukaTheMan]

japan does not matter..the ps3 aint exactly selling great there also....europe is about a toss up and the sweetest plum IS the North American sales base....come xmas you wont see 1 million in sales in japan ...europe again it might happen....but The North American.....almost always a million a week.

[SpinalRemains138]

Wow. So the 360 is in last now. Haha, last place.

[N4Great]

very soon, but without brainwashing machine, it would have been done since 2007, when ps3 started to become more interesting.

"I'm guessing multiplatform games sell better on PS3 too... Cos hardware numbers means everything. "

you are right, they sell better also (not call of duty, or some other us games, but globaly)

[SkylineR]

Omg who cares! As long as you have ONE of those consoles, does it matter who has sold more? Wii has double those sales with inferior tech but no one's gloating.

[PHOEBUS]

this is all to funny too read

[SpinalRemains138]

This doesnt even matter. When crap games like COD are the mainstream, it means that the consumer is settling for junk and that the devs are not pushing for dominance on either platform. COD ruins everything.

[Shok]

360 fanboys, even if it hasn't outsold it yet, you know it will eventually. It's inevitable.

[Killed4Less]

haha I knew once NPD went away it wouldn't take long for someone to come out and start blatantly lying.

As if this site hasn't already a reputation for trash.

Cling my zealots, CLING!

[MultiConsoleGamer]

Utterly Fictional Sales Figures from a site that is not reliable.

[xX-PEIN-Xx]

that sums up vgchartz quite nicely

[Incipio]

Regardless of the validity of this site's claim, there are MILLIONS of people that have held off on getting a PS3 because of GT5.

Well, guess what people, GT5 is arriving soon, and you know what that means.

KABOOOOOOOOOOOM

lol I was in Gamestop today and the girl at the register started running her mouth about Call of Duty this Call of Duty that blah blah Call of Duty best selling game of all time oblah dee oblah dah and I'm like "no thanks not interested, prepare to be blown away once Gran Turismo 5 hits. I hope you're sitting down when that happens." And I walked out lol. She was only spouting COD constantly because she gets brownie points for all the pre-orders.

[SnukaTheMan]

Regardless of the validity of this site's claim, there are MILLIONS of people that have held off on getting a PS3 because of_______________.

a.god of war 3
b.final fantasy 13
c.Mag
d.metal gear solid
e.warhawk
f.GT5
g.___________________next big sony ps3 game

this comedy can write itself.

[edhe]

I find it funny the ps3 fans find any knd of solace in catching up with the 360

[TGM]

... what difference does it make whether one outsells the other or not? The 360 is awesome, the PS3 is awesome, yet you guys are fighting over figures so you can raise the banner for multi-billion dollar companies that don't care about you anyway? Get a grip, people.

[Bounkass]

In my opinion, Sony and Microsoft should work together on 1 system. No more awful wars, no more fanboys etc. 1st step to world peace...

[XabiTheHumble]

game...set...match.

[Stationfan]

I think i tipped the scale last night in favor of Sony, i went to best buy and bought a package LED tv that was advertised with a free 360 and black ops.

I pondered for a minute and asked myself currently owning a OG 60gb (500gb now). Should i take the oppurtunity and become a dual console owner.

And enjoy Halo Reach along with a superior multiplatforms, so i pondered and pondered. Needless to say I quickly snapped out of it and reminded myself

1. Have my backup ps3 ready so if my girl wants to watch tv i could continue gaming in the living room.

2. Multiplatforms dont hold a candle to ps3 exclusives.
Well majority dont.

So now I'm a DUAL ps3 owner (I asked the best buy employ to swap the 360 for a ps3 hahah) and i dont regret my decision one bit.

[Spawn-KING]

MS misleading numbers are shipped Xbox 360's world wide .

[Nugundam0079]

Wii still beats both :)

[johnthe5th]

Thank you. That about sums it up :)

[Ummm Da Dum]

fact is wii has outsold both of em and still the big games come to ps3 and 360.

both have sold very well and because of good sales the company will still provide good support for it, WIN. both companies need rivals to push each other to make the best. once again for the consumer, WIN

ford outsell ferrari every year
windows outsell Mac every year
toilet roll outsell rolex every year.

sales doesnt mean its better.

when you walked into the shop to buy which ever console, did you pick that console because it sells better, NO. you picked it because you thought it did what you wanted better.

now stop chatting about sales and go and enjoy your games and talk about how good certian games are. dont focus on sales, thats MS and sonys job

[Miacosa]

After release a year later too. I wonder how many xbox consoles are red ring re-buys. Not that it matter to Microsoft has its a sale regardless.

[mitsuhede]

Awww poor 360 fanboys, you just lost the one thing you had over ps3 fans xD. I see a lot of fanboys crying over this article lol, just face it, weather these numbers were true or not, the ps3 was going to outsell the 360 in time either way, you guys just need to get over it lol. Just came sooner than you fools expected.

[commander]

So where are all these ppl that were pounding their chest and saying PS3 will never outsell the 360?

Where are you guys? Anyone? Hello

I guess their in denial and asking Aaron Greenburg if everything will be ok

[Jigsaw-]

lol i don't see the typical 360 fanboys,wonder why. i know this isn't real yet,it's 2.9 away but how does it feel you are about to hit last place? after all the years of trash talking,a year head start too.

[Ravenous_Syn]

And yet, It still doesn't mean anything. Both consoles suck in their own way.

[Ravenous_Syn]

It's true. I'm not a blind gamer that only see one thing as the end all be all of the "console wars." I own PS3 and a 360, so I get the best from both worlds. I just don't get the whole "fanboy" bullshit.

[Mr2Good3]

considering we are even having this discussion means a lot. if the numbers are wrong, the ps3 will likely overtake the xbox in sales really soon, especially with all of the exclusive titles coming in early 2011.

[Claudinho69]

minus 70% failure rate replacements...im just sayin

[Mr2Good3]

why isnt anyone talking about all of the xbox consumers who have bought 3-4 different xboxs because of the red ring. that right there will make the numbers lie.

[Azazel]

Good point man, LMFAO

[Grown Folks Talk]

they didn't talk about all the replacement PS2s people bought when touting their 125 million sales.

[busytoad]

Wooooot PS3 congrats.

im a old xbot but when my 360 red ringed on me i refused to buy anotherone so i went with ps3 and never looked back. Free online,awsome bluray,sweet exlusives. im happy.

[rlm42]

Ha! Good joke.

[SyphonFilter]

you're in denial.your precious unreliable console is now in last place.

[rlm42]

It's been pretty damn reliable to me.

And no it's not your clinging onto straws mate.. You're precious console has been in last place for 4 years and will continue to be until Sony or MS confirm it not some biased crappy Japanese magazine..

It says Xbox 360: 41 million sold. LOL yeah sure.

[SyphonFilter]

reliable for now until it breaks later. you're hurt i can tell. 1 year headstart is the only reason they even had a lead. they are going to be in last place for sure and they had a headstart.

[HappyTrigger]

I don't get it.. Did the PS3 take 2nd place or not? VGchartz #'s and IGN's previous article says otherwise:

http://xbox360.ign.com/arti...

http://www.vgchartz.com/hom...

And please, don't just go on a disagree frenzy... At least reply back and give me a straight answer.

[rlm42]

No it did not

[SyphonFilter]

you mean not yet.for sure by early next year.

[Azazel]

It doesnt matter what proof is displayed; now or a year from now; XBOTS will refuse the truth. Its sad really. I have more than a few friends who just got sick of RROD and buying multiple ''consoles'' and made the PS3 jump. They were like ''blutooth? Internet browser? more exclusives? Bluray HD? Free online?'' What the hell you XBOTS think was going to happen? Thats not even me being a fanboy... its just called USING YOUR BRAIN. Cheers!!

[AJ Hartley]

Unless you work for sony or microsoft who gives a shit , you all state that your not fanboys but then go ohhh ps3 has sold more or 360 has seriously get a grip!

[Lannient]

Im pro ps3 but this probably isn't true, although it WILL pass the 360 in time. Its pretty sad to see that the ps3 is this close tho when the 360 had a year head start. Not to mention the 360 probably got just about double the sales it was originally supposed to have due to the rrod and people re buying the same console. So yeah, at the end of the day...you xbots fail lol, you started this sales war and you will lose.

[madara0sama]

I'm gonna stay away from console related articles from now on or I'll just get labeled as a PS3 troll and lose bubbles even though I'm just speaking the truth.

[Styile]

Who gives a fuck about what people over the internet label you? Fuck them. The worst these fools can do is thumb down your comment lmao. Screw them, its mostly 360 fanboys trying to stop you from voicing your opinion because they are butthurt at the fact that they're about to be last place when these fools started this whole sales bs lol.

[ALICE666]

MS have absolutely squandered their 1 and 1/2 year release early lead down to...

NOTHING. ZERO. NIL. NADA.. you get the picture.

If thats not an epic fail then I dont know what is.

Even if they are ahead by 2 million or not its still laughable.

Time to release the 720 MS and claim another early lead.

[SlxTeN]

All these comments, Its Madness I Say! Complete Madness!!! :P

[TheNocturnus]

Too bad the PS3 still sucks.

[Azazel]

Too bad XBOX360 still sucks.

[SyphonFilter]

so that's even worse that a "crappy" system outsold your unreliable pos console.

[blackburn5]

Even if it's true the gaming world would never admit it. Everyone seem so hellbent on PS3 staying 3rd that any mention of it gaining ground send everyone into frenzy. Any mention of it fills the articles with haters and fanboys alike yelling 'no it's not, no it's not'.Any accomplishments by Sony are shot down before the results are even in. To think even with all their confidence in their systems they still are afraid of the PS3 gaining ground. This is what the gaming world has been reduced to. Hoping and praying that the other systems will fail.@ Nocturnus30 your ignorance is proof of that. It's strange how anyone can still say the PS3 sucks after the 40% fail rate RROD fiasco with the 360 that took 3 years to fix. Microsoft proved themselves inferior a long time ago. They couldn't even make a reliable system.Wii was made cheaply and it still held together better then a 360. Pathetic.

[TheNocturnus]

My saying that the PS3 sucks is from personal experience of having owned one. It really does suck in my opinion. I am on my 8th 360 (got the slim one now) and I would gladly go 8 more instead of getting another PS3.

[brettski]

Does this count repurchases due to RROD?

[waljaber]

i can't believe it, with sony console sailing only original copy games and still take the lead O_O.

[Garrus_Vakarian]

of the comments are back-and-forth trolling.

Anywho, didn't ready the article, but going by the title I guess I'll just say congrats Sony.

[jneul]

congrats Sony I knew you could do it, and lol at all the denial in here, i think all you ms fans was too happy throwing sales in our face and you are unhappy that you no longer can't do that anyway i for one will not be rubbing it in any further.
it is so funny that vgc are in denial despite them being so so wrong not so long ago...

[ASSASSYN 36o]

You kids are the most guilable retards in captivity. Even Sony disagreed with this when they themselves released
41+ million ps3 sales globally. And that was recently.

[YOUR-MUM]

I always find it strange on this site how xbox sales are always lies and fakes and ps3 sales are always true.

[Nerox3]

so now 360 is in the last position?even if it wasnt it will be soon....but haha ur pwned xD

[labwarrior]

I dont get it

Last time i checked, 45+ was greater than 42

So, 360 is 3-5 million ahead of PS3, since Sony numbers are shipped and they lie calling them sold, like with Move

Sony is desparate, they are not only making fake numbers, but now are making fake artices too !!!!!

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz...

Major Nelson Blog updated!

45 Milions Xbox´s SOLD!

Awesome numbers!

We’ve just released some interesting Xbox data that I thought you might enjoy:

•There are OVER 45 million consoles sold in 35 countries.

PS3 is not only dead last and millions behind, is also 10 million behind in US and Kinect has given a 10x boost to 360 sales, which is NOT included in the 45 million above, that number is before Kinect

[danthebios]

To all you 360 fanboys,get a job(unless your still in school which most of you are),get paid,and buy a ps3.Stop bitching.peace

[Skadoosh]

LOL. The only place you'll get get info like this is a site where you have naked cartoons. LOL! Oh cmon sony fanboys, you can do better than this. BTW, it's already been proven that the 360 has a 3 million lead. Sorry kids.

[rekof]

It is true,..

360fanboys should know, they now a controller,..'' -360,..has more sales ,..I had to buy 4 of them already,.. that should count for something dammit !!''

@lol at what Greenberg said,.. I would not send that troll to get my coffe,..

360 could not out-sell xbox1 if it weren't for RROD,.

[pupa]

Ok, so who really Fsucking cares. Facts are that until up to about a year or so ago we heard eXBot arguments off 8 million more Xbox360 units sold by M$, Sony is going bank, Sony will not catch up in a million years. So for Fsake's whatever the numbers really are, just swallow your hurt ego and useless/baseless exBox fanboism pride for supporting junk and admit the PS3 are doing better in the current situation. Microsoft conned and overcharged you all since inception of the Xbox360 while selling a piece of RROD scrap. You MADE Microsoft by feeding them the dollars and with Kinect they will still con you some more.

By the way as example of the M$ lies, what happened with your Milo?

[MRMagoo123]

Why do 360 fantards keep spouting these numbers they have over and over telling ppl at the same time to get there facts right when they arent even reading there own "facts" themselves in which these numbers say sold to retailers ffs get a clue the ps3 is in front and i suspect it has been for a few months at least the 360 has crossgame chat left thats it no lead no exclusive games nothing but the ability to talk to other 12 year olds whilst playing different games big woop. Now i know this is hard to take because it was the last straw in your grasp but get over it ps3 is in front will always be in front the faster you take this in the faster we can all get back to talking about games and how fun they are. This so called war was started by MS it will be finished by Sony and we can all get along again afterwards.

[punkpop101]

PS3 Defence And Trolling team at full force.It's simple 360 fanboys never get on n4g since they still play Reach and Fable 3.And the ps3 ones(we have 200000 exclusives) are here giving disagrees to anything that has to go against their precious console.Just look at the disagrees and you'll see.

[BabyTownFrolics]

http://kotaku.com/5685250/j...

heres an update

this is not spam

[Homicide]

Sony fanboys got pwned.

http://n4g.com/news/643455/...

[joeorc]

Tose was very spot on:

internal Data from the companies themselves greater than web site's

Where do you Think Tose got their Figures from?

once again for people Not paying Atten:

oh for crying out loud
LOOK AT THE D@RN REPORT..YOU KNOW THE ONE WHERE THEY SHOW THE INVESTOR'S Greenberg made the Mistake on purpose or otherwise...the fact's are:

41.8 Sold through @ the end of SEPT 2010 with a further Shipped 2.8 million..that comes out to 44.6 million total unit's @ the end of Q1: 2011..which is at the END of DEC..will be end of 1st Q: 2011 as you can see it's not over with yet.

how could Microsoft sold more system's than they Shipped!

God How hard is that to understand..it's Q4th 2010 sold through Number's combined with Shipped to retail 2.8 to = 44.6

http://www.microsoft.com/in...

no go over to the right:

once again notice this:

Key Performance Indicators (in millions, except unit attach rates) click the little file to the right->

Business Metrics and Key Performance Indicators
(amounts in millions except for % and attach rate)

Entertainment and Devices

LTD Xbox 360 unit sales

Q1'10 Q2'10 Q3'10 Q4'10

33.6 38.8 40.3 41.8

Source:

http://www.microsoft.com/in...

Sold through to the Consumer = 41.8 @ the end of SEPT 2010
Sold through to the Consumer+Q1 2011 Shipment's = 44.6

Sony has not even add in their 3RD Quarter Result's to their 2nd Q 2010 result's but Microsoft just ADDED their 1ST Q: 2011 shipment number's to their sold through.

Greenberg rounded up an now so did Herb!

this is Data straight from Microsoft and Sony, They cannot Lie about these figures to their share holder's because if they did they would be in big trouble. keep going an ignore the data
your only hurting your Own Bruised EGO's.

[acere]

DOMINATING, UNSTOPABLE, ULTAKILL, GODLIKE, HOLYSHIT.