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Kinect will sell more units then at Wii launch, says Greenberg

VG247: Microsoft’s Aaron Greenberg is confident Kinect will sell. The man thinks it’ll sell more then Wii did at its launch four years ago, after all.

GTmonster4920d ago

Kinect is an accessory. Pretty desperate tbh.

ryuzu4920d ago

Well the Wii was difficult to get hold of and that strangled sales at launch and for about 18 months afterward.

The Kinect is supposedly difficult to get hold of unless you're in the Oprah audience - once Kinect launches this site is News 4 Granma's lol.

r.

NoLongerHere4920d ago

So basically he says that Wii audience = Kinect audience. :)

ct034920d ago

Of course it's the same audience as the Wii. That's not much of a secret.

sikbeta4920d ago

Oh... the hyping machine started already... lol... he labeled kinect as a wii kind of add-on... confirming endless line-up of shovelware for x360 owners, maybe?

r1sh124920d ago

either MS or Sony are likely to eat heavily into wii sales.
Both have an accessory to rival the wii's casual audience, the difference is how many people will buy a console for the accessory?
We know many people will buy the accessory for the console, but that will not be the deciding factor for who gets the most sales this holiday.
If people do not have a wii yet, its time to but the xbox 360 or ps3

Spydiggity4920d ago

it is a BOLD statement. but i'm not sure what's "desperate" about it. please explain

PS360fanboy4920d ago

It won't sell more than the Wii. If I recall it, it was the most successful console launch of all time.

Anon19744920d ago

So Greenberg thinks that Kinect will sell more units than the Wii. To put that into perspective - if the Wii suddenly stopped selling tomorrow, the 360 in the next few years would have to sell a Kinect to every single consumer who had ever bought a 360, plus sell an extra 30 million 360's and sell a Kinect to every single one of those customers as well.

"Time to wake up. Put your shoes on, we're at grandma's"
He's dreaming.

Spydiggity4920d ago

he didn't say more than the wii... he said more than the wii launch. still seems unlikely...but not impossible

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yoghurt4920d ago

kinect is an acessory, surely it will sell more?

Ilikegames764920d ago

an expensive accessory, almost the same price as the Wii. The BS that sprout out of this man's mouth is really astounding.

sikbeta4920d ago (Edited 4920d ago )

Accesories/Add-ons/peripherals don't massively wide-spread easily, the only exception is the Guitar Hero stuff for the PS2 and so on, everything else don't even reach 1/3 of the actual number of consoles sold to consumers... so, Mr hype is being very optimistic here... well, maybe with $500 million ad campaign, it may come true...

RememberThe3574920d ago

They went and got my hopes up. Thats bog talk, they must like what they're seeing from the preorders.

nygamer284920d ago

i hate to say this but theres a slight chance

foker4920d ago

I will be shell-shocked if this sells 1 million lifetime,.. But people are stupid,.. so Im shell-shocked I guess,..

timmyrulz4920d ago

Ok then, I will be buying Kinect because my 3 year old daughter is looking forward to playing kinectimals, does that make me stupid for wanting to see my little girl happy?
Not everyone wants to play shooters and what have you

rekof4920d ago (Edited 4920d ago )

No,.. It is your child and your money,.. Would get her something more complex interaction-wise but then again I really don't know what 3year old can do,..I get out when it comes to that stage, because I am a pussy or have a real problem with trust in women's minds,..I think child is a blessing though,..
So I guess Kinect might be perfect for her bro,.. but children are quite smart,..

nickjkl4920d ago

timmy i woulnt recommend that shes since shes 3 years old 2 years younger before she turns 5 and forgets everything i would reccomend some cheap entertainment since you dont know exactly how interested she will be in it after she gets it

JackBNimble4920d ago (Edited 4920d ago )

Don't be surprised if she plays with the box more then kinect.... after all she is only 3.

Oh By the way, I would never let kids play video games that are that young, it could turn into a nasty habit and you may regret it.

I am a parent also and this is just my opinion.

Moentjers4920d ago

wow, I have an almost 3 year old, congratz if you can keep her interested for more than 15' a day !

visualb4920d ago

but surely you can make her happy without buying her a 150 dollar peripheral?

say, loads of stuffed toys, a new doll house?

if you have a 3 year old you'll know how quickly kids jsut forget stuff...wonder how long she'll forget about kinectimals?

either way, do as you wish, just feel a 150 dollar peripheral isn't NECESSARY to make a 3 year old happy.

RIP_Weazel4920d ago (Edited 4920d ago )

Yeah for the common sense parenting thread! How could you justify spending that amount of money?!
"because my 3 year old daughter is looking forward to playing kinectimals, does that make me stupid for wanting to see my little girl happy?" Yup.
My two and a half year old is happy if I take her to the park, bake stuff, do painting, etc,etc. Quality time dude. Save the games till she's old enough to want to do her own thing, and have a bit of space.
*kudos for the disagree - I realise now that to be a real parent, I just need to spend obscene amounts of money on transient tat that won't contribute to her development beyond making her a spoilt brat. Thanks Dr.Spock. You're so wise.

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Xbox Game Studios Publishing Team Visits Kojima Productions to 'Kick-Off an Exciting Journey'

Kojima Productions' Hideo Kojima and Microsoft's GM of Xbox games marketing Aaron Greenberg via Twitter revealed the Xbox Game Studios Publishing teams have visited Kojima Productions.

"Our first visit to Kojima Productions with our Xbox Game Studios Publishing teams," said Greenberg. "Bringing engineering, cloud, marketing & production teams together to kick-off an exciting journey ahead."

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Obscure_Observer414d ago

Definitely curious to know more about this game.

Probably a survivor horror game powered by Azure just like Flight Simulator.

porkChop414d ago

He had a cloud-based horror title in development at Stadia but Google cancelled the project. Idk. He could bring that to Xbox but he also might be making something else. I just don't know what cloud would bring to a horror game.

Obscure_Observer413d ago

"I just don't know what cloud would bring to a horror game."

It´s Kojima. He can create a cloud-based Pac Man. Lol.

Tbh, If you tell me MS were planning to release a cloud-based Flight Simulator a few years back, I wouldn´t know what to expect either.

He´ll be working with Kim Swift (Portal creator) so I´m expecting something big!

EvertonFC413d ago

Can you offload things like lighting or RT etc to cloud?

fr0sty413d ago

RT, not really, as we expect 60fps,and low input lag, and good luck getting pings good enough to refresh that.

cthulhucultist413d ago

I can think 3 possible uses, although I could be wrong:

1. Dynamic weather and time of day depending on your region. For instance real-time weather and time-of-day information, which can be used to create dynamic environments that change depending on the weather and time of day. In addition various festivities (such as halloweed) can be tracked to add additional background features such as new times, layout and decorations.

2.Cloud-based servers can facilitate shared experiences in horror games so that players can share real tine journals around the world for other players to find (similar to demon souls messaging system)

3. Crowd-sourced decision making when it comes to important world altering decisions. In that way players can decide using polls, on the direction of certain events.

All the above apply to multiplayer horror game scenarios

porkChop413d ago

@cthulhu

I see where you're going but those 3 scenarios don't actually need cloud technology. We could already do those things with an online connection. For Kojima to say it's a game he's always wanted to make but that it isn't possible without cloud... Idk man it sounds like he's talking about some wild shit lmao. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Obscure_Observer413d ago

@EvertonFC

"Can you offload things like lighting or RT etc to cloud?"

Yes, you can offload anything CPU-intensive to the cloud. Xbox Game Studios already confirmed that Ray Tracing is coming to Flight Simulator at some point with the DirectX 12 Ultimate update.

I_am_Batman413d ago (Edited 413d ago )

@Everton: Offloading part of the rendering pipeline to a remote server isn't a viable solution for latency sensitive real time applications like games. Bandwidth isn't high enough and latency is way too high. There is a reason why GPUs have multi-level cache hierarchies. Local cache/memory latency is measured in nano seconds, a server ping in miliseconds. You're talking orders of magnitude difference in both latency and bandwidth. At that point you'd be better off letting the server do all the computation and streaming the finished frame which would just be plain old game streaming.

fr0sty412d ago (Edited 412d ago )

It's SO obvious which people in this conversation have any idea how game development works... lol.

No, you cannot do cloud assisted ray tracing. 60fps updates every 16ms. So, within 16 ms, your must tell the server you need a frame, and what that frame needs to be, Then the important part... the server has to have the time needed to render that frame, and then it has to be able to send that frame back to you. A perfectly average ping in the year 2023 is 20-50ms... and even if you get lower than that sometimes, you won't stay that low all the time... especially when connecting to servers over large distances. see the problem there?

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blackblades414d ago

Bad quality photo, like show some respect to the guy. Can report for bad quality picture.

Stanjara414d ago

Photo probably taken with Kinect.

onisama413d ago

the original on twitter kojima with the team xbox, this photo is zoomed

YourMommySpoils414d ago

Phil is going to start slapping and spanking Kojima, when he finds out the developers have been working on a Sony game this whole time, instead.

Aloymetal413d ago (Edited 413d ago )

Lol, well you're kinda right since he's been working on DS2 aka his baby and I say his baby because it is his main priority plus when I saw the tour he made of his studio in Japan, everything inside is decorated with Death Stranding and all that stuff. Amazing studio by the way.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Obscure_Observer413d ago

"Lol, well you're kinda right since he's been working on DS2 aka his baby and I say his baby because it is his main priority"

Lmao! Sure... whatever helps you sleep at night, dude. XD

Kojima wants his new game on Xbox to bring a revolution! From the man himself:

“It’s almost like a new medium. If this succeeds, it will turn things around – not just in the game industry, but in the movie industry as well,”

"Kojima: I tend to get easily bored. Part of why I've been able to make games for 30 years is because new technology replaces the old so quickly. The tech you use today may not be applicable tomorrow, and I'm interested in figuring out ways to incorporate the new. Making the wrong choice can result in failure, of course. It's a bit like a space program in that way. The project we're working on with Microsoft is one I have been thinking about for five or six years already. The project required infrastructure that was never needed before, so I discussed it with lots of different big companies and gave presentations, but they really seemed to think that I was mad. It was ultimately Microsoft who showed that they understood, and now we're working together on the project, including the technology front."

“It’s a completely new game, one that no one has ever experienced or seen before. I’ve waited very long for the day when I could finally start to create it.”

https://www.ign.com/article...

mkis007413d ago

Sony would normally accept anything kojima would put out if they were even one of his potentials. Leaves me with 2 options: Sony literally couldn't say yes to it or 2 it is more unusually than death stranding.

Obscure_Observer413d ago

@mkis007

"2 it is more unusually than death stranding."

He said that every publisher which he proposed his new game (Sony included), says he gone mad except Xbox Game Studios.

If this game is not been in development for the PS5, Sony is the one to blame.

sadraiden413d ago

@obscure_observer

always take Kojima's hyperbole with several thousand grains of salt. He famously said DS was a new game genre. Turns out it was a 3rd person action game with asynchronous multiplayer. Still fun and engaging, but not really as innovative as he was pitching it.

DOMination-413d ago

DS is the only game they’ve released isn’t it? I have a feeling that’s the most logical reason why tue studio is filled with stuff from that game

YourMommySpoils413d ago (Edited 413d ago )

In other words, there is no Xbox game. "!" over the head.

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sadraiden413d ago

Phil never put a ring on it. Kojima is his own publisher. I think he holds most of the leverage, and in this case Xbox wanting their own Kojima exclusive is exactly the reason why he won't spank him.

Traecy414d ago

They want to follow in Sony PS footsteps...lol. Smh.

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Aaron Greenberg Promoted To Xbox's VP Of Games Marketing

If you're a close follower of the Xbox team, you'll be well aware of Aaron Greenberg. He's a really nice guy who is always busy promoting the latest game and hardware.

It seems he's recently been promoted - with his LinkedIn profile revealing how he's gone from Xbox Games Marketing General Manager to Xbox Games Marketing Vice President.

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Knushwood Butt585d ago

'He's a really nice guy who is always busy promoting the latest game.'.

He's had a quiet year then.

-Foxtrot585d ago

Just spinning on his chair randomly thinking "I wonder who can swim faster, a horse or a dog"

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NotoriousWhiz585d ago

^ While that's a funny thought. The facts are that the more people that like your favorite plastic box, the more people that will spend money on the plastic box, and the more money spent on that plastic box, results in more support going to that plastic box, which ultimately results in more games for you to play on your plastic box.

So that bit of marketing does help you in the end. But don't let those facts get in the way of a good funny.

*takes off nerd glasses*

MoonConquistador585d ago

Lol.

I like many people, probably overuse lol's in my online messaging, but I genuinely laughed aloud with that comment.

MadLad585d ago

2023 is coming.
The tone of this place will go from "Xbox has no games" to trying to explain why everything they release is terrible. No matter the reviews or sales. Or trying to convince everyone how Gamepass is killing the industry.

Aloymetal585d ago

''2023 is coming''
I know right, I've been seeing the same slogan since 2014.

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neutralgamer1992585d ago

Lad

Man stop it as a Xbox fan I am tired of waiting till next year. It's time to have some amazing games that are high in quality

CrimsonWing69585d ago

I feel like they said that back in 2021, then 2022, and… well you get the picture.

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STARS585d ago

@MadLad

2023 is coming, in three and a half months. What about in the entirety of 2022, or in the last 10+ months? How have those award winning, MS studios been looking in that time frame? 🤔 Yeah, no matter the reviews or sales, sounds a lot like TLoU Part 2 from you for 2 years running. 🤡

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godofboobees584d ago

So it's no longer "wait till e3" but so and so date is coming? Gotcha

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Hofstaderman584d ago

E3 is also coming. What a joke.

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Automatic79585d ago (Edited 585d ago )

@knushwood

Depends what quiet year means to you.

Didn't he just finish promoting this summer E3, High on Life, Naraka Blade Point, As Dusk Falls, Forza Horizon 5 HotWheels, Redfall, Starfield, Pentiment and Grounded. Plus he was Gamescom with games like Lies of P, The Case of Benedict Fox and more. I don't consider that a quiet year.

Congratulations Aaron.

Elda585d ago (Edited 585d ago )

Lies of P is a multi-plat game with no release date. The other games you've mentioned are mostly low-budget/AA lackluster looking games with the exception of Forza. Redfall & Starfield have no release date. As an XBSX owner that's nothing to be excited about.

darthv72585d ago (Edited 585d ago )

@elda... so you upgraded your free xmas party series s to a series x now? Gamepass has a way of doing that. And lies of P is a nice get for the service. Of course Greenburg will promote games and the service.its his job.

Lightning77584d ago

I'm not a Greenburge fan myself but whenever someone lists the games. It's always "AA low budget lack luster games" but yet go crazy over a Cat game that nobody's talking about anymore. AA is only OK if it's only exclusive to their platform, anywhere else it's lackluster.

#Hypocrites

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XiNatsuDragnel584d ago

@lighting
The problem most of these are timed exclusives or multiplats. Not AAA or AA, I care about exclusives which the competitors have.

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XiNatsuDragnel585d ago

Oh congrats Aaron but imo I want a new team rather than the same people start fresh.

Si-Fly584d ago

Yeah why aren’t they promoting an intern to VP?

XiNatsuDragnel584d ago (Edited 584d ago )

Or fresh blood

ED-E585d ago

Can't really tell how Greenberg is today, but back in my Xbox360 days (oof, we're talking 10+ years ago), he had such a pervy douchey vibe, I couldn't stand him. So I might have been wrong all along.

God, I miss my Xbox360 days, but I hated the Metro-UI change in 2012(?) so much. It was one of the reasons I switched to Playstation with the next generation.

MadLad585d ago

It might be time to switch back, honestly.
I'm mainly a PC gamer, but I've owned every Playstation console since the PS2.
I was one of the few that managed getting a PS5 day one.

They've been anti-consumer idiots this generation. I don't want to support them as a company at this point. I've been buying used anything that I want to play.

I'm watching Microsoft improve their games division in many ways, while watching Sony test how much they can fleece their dedicated fanbase.

Aloymetal585d ago

''I don't want to support them as a company at this point. I've been buying used anything that I want to play.''
Don't do that, PS needs you, they'll be doomed if you don't support them...

Elda585d ago

At least Sony continues to release AAA exclusives,they've released AAA exclusives throughout this year whereas XB has not...not one.

MadLad585d ago

@aloy

Whatever you insist, guy. I know the drill. Everything Microsoft does with their games division is trash.
Everything Sony does with their games division is totally amazing. It's actually kind of creepy.

Doesn't matter what Sony does, and it doesn't matter the improvements Microsoft is making.

The PS6 could announce at $1000, the games could now be $80, they could double the base price of PS Plus, and you would be doing your best to celebrate and defend it.

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Crows90585d ago

Name me one game this supposed games division improvement has created.

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Gamingsince1981585d ago

MS haven't improved their games division at all, they have spent more money than anyone else on buying up studios and still have nothing to show years on. Gamepass is rubbish and that's all they have.

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gold_drake584d ago (Edited 584d ago )

"been watching them improve their games division in many ways"

really? might be time for some glasses then ha.

AmUnRa584d ago (Edited 584d ago )

Here whe go again....but but but i have always own a PS, but Sony are anti consumer idiots. Dude give it a rest whe dont believe your drivel time for the mods to do theyr job.

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Joy Ride Turbo - The Beginning of the End for Xbox Kinect

Joy Ride Turbo launched 10 years ago today. The first title was Xbox Kinect exclusive, yet this sequel failed to support the device at all.