Gran Turismo has 756 standard cars

According to a demonstration that SONY performed to demonstrate a new technology called PLAYVIEW TECH, it has disclosed the total number of standard cars that will come in Gran Turismo 5.

[darkcharizard]

Mind boggling!

[arnoldocastillo2003]

MEGA OMG this is just awesome

[MAR-TYR-DOM]

After the LBP delay i really hope this doesn't get delayed. If it does, i will personally go and burn some houses on my street down.

[Rumor]

This game is gonna make me become a --for lack of a better term-- racing simmer

[kancerkid]

The standards cars are just upscaled from past games. They do not have damage modelling or anything.

[nikoado]

@kancerkid

I believe standard cars still have performance affecting damage, and superficial dmg(scratches etc.)

They don't have "panel separation" though.

[likedamaster]

Does this mean 756 cars with no crash physics, etc.?

[God_Of_Epicness]

Great, after my exam, I'll buy this game (along with premium cars), Black Ops, Red Dead Redemption, and Assassin's Creed Brotherhood. Gaming ftw!

[Biggest]

Ir's strange to me that this late in life people are asking the same questions about GT5. It's like a Glen Beck thing. You may know the answer, but if you don't like the answer, keep asking the same questions.

[SeanRL]

WANT. THIS. GAME. NOW.

[Persistantthug]

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[PS3Freak]

The disagree fairy is running rampant today!

OT: I really don't know if I can wait until November 2nd for this freakin game. It's too much.

[thor]

Not really.

Standard cars are confirmed just updated models of previous GT cars (so they took say the GT4 model and smoothed out some of the corners). Since there are a lot of previous car models, it wouldn't be too hard to port them over.

I will not use standard cars. Nearly everything that GT5 has that is new is lost on standard cars. They have inferior damage, no cockpit view (making weather far less impressive), and worse visuals.

They should have left out the standard cars and rather left GT5 with a few more premium cars. The standard cars are a blemish on the game; dead weight that nobody wants to see.

To top it off, certain things like the VW Bus are PREMIUM. This means that whether a car is premium or not has nothing to do with how fast it is, how beautiful it is or how much you want to drive it. This means that although GT5 has around 250 premium cars, they won't be the ones that we want.

[jetlian]

did that it would have half the cars forza has

[Mr Marbles]

but I wouldn't say they won't be the ones we want, I would say, they will not all be the ones we want. In other words a bunch of the premium cars will be cars that we would much rather have seen on the standard car list, and there are probably a bunch on the standard car list that we would rather have on the premium list.

[thor]

@Mr Marbles

Yeah I agree with you there, my wording may have been a bit clumsy though.

@jetlian

Exactly, GT5 DOES have half the cars Forza has. I don't know why they take so much time to model each car - it CAN'T be perfectionism because they're happy to ship a game with so many standard cars in it. Turn 10 were able to model the interiors of all of their cars, and add damage to all of their cars - and the cars were still very close to their real-life counterparts. What did Turn 10 do that Polyphony can't? Why couldn't all 1000 cars in GT5 be modelled to a reasonable level of detail (incorporating cockpit view and damage for all cars), and then they could work on improving them up until launch, rather than setting an unreasonable target where the diameter of the exhaust pipe needs to be accurate to within the micrometer leaving other cars as just up-rezed GT4 models?

[jetlian]

they would need another 15 years. 5 to do 250 cars 20 years for 1000 cars. I think a lot of it is forza's doing. If forza didn't have rollovers,damage, and whatnot this would have been out sooner.

Everyttime they got readu to ship a new forza with came forcing them to update something.

[SoapShoes]

That's retarded, you're just pulling stuff out of your butt. The standard cars will look great and will have cockpits. They won't have as detailed of a cockpit or fully designed under carriage, but they'll still look great.

Really I don't care what you think, if you're upset by this then enjoy your vinegar.

[Mr Marbles]

problem is if you are expecting a logical or reasonable response or debate from these people your out of luck. No one here will ever question Poly or Sony in any negative way whatsoever.

GT5 is god to them no matter what, they could announce tomorrow that suddenly there will only be 50 premium cars and these people would all scream AWESOME in unison. They are completely mindless automatons that cant seem to say a negative thing about Sony/PS3/Poly even to save their lives. In the long run this customer attitude only hurts the consumer, Sony will lower quality with such lowered expectations.

Personally I like alot about the GT series and am looking forward to it, but I am of sound enough mind to see when they are pulling BS or when perhaps they made a bad choice in a part of the game design. I also have no problem pointing it out or discussing it, not to troll or bash Sony, but just because its a game we all have an interest in. If there are negatives they deserve to be discussed just as much as the positives.

[Elwenil]

So the 756 standard cars are just smoothed over GT4 cars? That must be a lot of smoothing to stretch the just over 650 cars in GT4 to over 750. Fools.

[thor]

@Elwenil

I said "previous GT cars" - GT4 was just an example I gave.

@Estranged

I'm not, this has been confirmed in interviews. Research it yourself if you want, or go onto gtplanet.net and ask the nice folks there.

@Mr Marbles

Yeah it's annoying that you can't have a decent discussion on this site. I'm looking forward to GT5 as much as anyone here - I'm a MASSIVE racing game fan. Sometimes I am too aggressive, but even when I want to just have a calm discussion I get labelled a fanboy and the youngsters on this site throw out crude insults or assert their position without making a point.

[raztad]

"just up-rezed GT4 models"

Oh really?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Those cars dont look like "just up-rezed GT4 models" to me.

[Seijoru]

They are using the same measurements and details they took from the cars while making GT4 dumbass, not just up-resing it. GT4 had perfect accuracy so they didn't see a reason to take all those measurments again.

[thor]

@raztad

Yeah they do. Black-tinted windows are a giveaway. The edges have been smoothed and the texture resolution has been increased.

Lack of cockpit view is the main negative for me; the black-tinted windows pretty much confirm this.

[NateDPG]

The standard cars still look better than Forza's and you must be kidding if you think black-tinted windows proves anything.

[blasian]

I dont think PD would have time for any more premium cars. The amount of detail in a single car is ridiculous and to have 250 cars already like that is really great. Although it would be nice to have 1000 premium cars it just wouldnt be possible right now.

[thor]

@blasian

I would rather have a compromise of say 500 cars at 90% detail rather than 250 cars at 100% detail and 750 at 50% detail, just my opinion on the matter. For me the standard cars were a mistake and PD should have not set their standards so high that they had to make this compromise.

[raztad]

So Black-tinted windows is your definition of "just up-rezed"? come on thor, you can do better than that.

Just for the records I'm not saying Standard cars are not improved GT4 cars. That is very well known. However those standard cars, save cockpit view and damage detail, are up to GT5 visual fidelity.

In short, Standard Cars are not just up-rezed, but fully retextured and behave as you would expect from a GT5 car.

EDIT: I wanted to add, that if you truly believe standard cars are "just up-rezed" you are giving GT4 too much credit.

[blasian]

i can agree about the 500 @ 90%. It was probably because of nascar and wrc. Ill still be playing them though for the platinums.

[NateDPG]

This thor guy is talkin some real crap:

"You may have heard that the standard cars will simply be remodeled versions of cars from GT4, but Polyphony wants to remind you that they're using the textures and physics the other cars have. Essentially, the models are being reused but it's hardly a copy-and-paste job. And here's the quote that clarifies the in-cockpit view, from IGameReport:

Standard cars do indeed have a cockpit/dashboard view, just not nearly as detailed as the premium cars. The existing cars are not just being copied; they are all being generated properly to create authentic experiences from car to car."

[poindat]

For the record, I disagree with thor and absolutely love the choice that standard cars give to the game, but he's correct about the features of standard cars. It has been confirmed MULTIPLE TIMES by Kaz and PD themselves that standard cars will not have cockpits. It's amazing how so-called "fans" of this game can miss such vital information.

You're only setting yourselves up for disappointment so stop being ignorant, go research the issue to find the truth (if I just gave the sources to you, you would just ignore them), and get over it. The game will be AMAZING regardless. The standards are definitely much improved over their GT4 counterparts, but will simply have a less complex damage model and lack a cockpit.

Signed,

Someone who actually knows what he's talking about

[flipposguitar]

http://www.gtpla.net/wp-con...

the 69 camaro Z28 is standard... yup...that deffinatly looks like black tinted window to me... :/

cmon dude a Polyphony SCEA said that they used what info they had from gt4 about the cars and made them completly for the new gt5 engine. not a simple copy and paste job. direct quote here "The existing cars are not just being copied; they are all being generated properly to create authentic experiences from car to car.”

[Dee_91]

i think its the fact you keep saying "simply" and "the same" iswhats pissing people off
if you hoonestly think it was simple and so easy to just upscale cars like its a everyday thing then u are totally misunderstand the word upscale.
you really think ifit was that easy and simple and the exact same as gt4 u think 250 prem cars would take this long to make really ?

To people pissed about no cockpit for standards dont worry kaz said gt6 will be here much sooner than the wait for gt5 from gt4 and more than likely they will add a few more cars and implament cockpit vieww in gt5 standard cars .. justt my educated guess

[poopface1]

I only had GT3 but My favorite thing was buying all the cars.

[DigitalAnalog]

You are so caught up in the detail of the cars that you forget the REAL reason what the game is all about. I'll give you a hint:

"THE REAL DRIVING SIMULATOR."

It's one thing to put details on the car but what about the way how the car handles? From what I've read, EACH car mimics it's real life counterparts. It doesn't matter if the 756 standard cars lack the interior's or not but rather HOW it feels like on the road. The idea is to take NASCAR, RALLY cars and put them in locations and arenas that NEVER thought possible. How it feels like to drive them in those situations. It's ALL about the driving and the possibilities. You call yourself a driving fan, but from your argument it seems to me your more the "car modelling" fan.

What happens if I DON'T like any of the 500+ premium cars (from your argument)? With a 1000 cars, I can have a variety of choices and pick which one suits my style. After all, I'm all in for the driving and the interiors are there for aesthetics purposes.

GT6 would definitely have more premium cars than the last but even then, the most important aspect is how "simulated" it is on the road. And THAT is what GT5 is all about.

-End statement

[mrmcygan]

So do PS3's already have playview or is it going to be put into a firmware update?

[arnoldocastillo2003]

I think its gonna be implemented only with games directly in the software of the game.

[The_Count]

Someone mind telling me what playview is. I've been a bit busy with this Katy Perry fiasco.

Ah ah ah

[TrevorPhillips]

and I have $150 on GT5. Cannot wait for this game only 1 month and a half left :D

[PixlSheX]

So.. this means there are 240+ premium cars?

[karatechoplifter]

One month, six days.

[IrishYamato]

I am still unsure as to what PLAYVIEW actually does. BTW the article is in Spanish, so i couldnt read it.

[arnoldocastillo2003]

Sorry i update the story with the google translate of the article:

http://translate.google.com...

[IrishYamato]

Thank you very much.

[killershadow117]

Micro$oft $ucks

[N4PS3Fanboys]

$ony $ucks

[d3nworth1]

This is for you

[killershadow117]

Just as I thought, I thank you for posting that. I was doing a little experiment to see if microsoft sucks would get more agrees than sony sucks to help prove to everyone on here that this is in face a huge sony fanboy place. Now for a final test on an xbox game topic.

[ShadowJetX]

I have nothing against M$' game studios or they game's they produce, just their business practices and the bullshit they like to spread about their games (while sometimes the information is backed up, it's all a ploy to piss people off, fans and other companies alike). The only other company I dislike as much is activision for more or less the same reasons (plus how they whore out their games and such).

[Yangus]

One problem,756 standard cars quality:GT4 HD.

True ps3 quality only premium cars!

[LolololRumz]

See I dont mind games getting delayed as long as they come out with results like this

[i_like_ff7]

756 cars from gt4....

[Mr Marbles]

wasn't it supposed to have 800 standard cars or am I remembering something wrong.

[theonlylolking]

Maybe they decided to add more premium cars?

[theonlylolking]

That is awesome.

[Mr Marbles]

They just announced that there will be fewer cars than they said before and you are all like, completely unfazed by it, do you guys have functioning brains? How is this good news?

Wow, you PS3 fans are a really weird bunch, talk about sheep, no way 360 fans would take this from MS.

Edit: no seriously do they have more premiums than previously announced? Because I dont know, what is going on, what all did they change, you guys are acting like nothing has changed here what gives?

[SoapShoes]

Wow, you're insane... They also have more premium cars than previously announced. LOL!

[foss3]

yeah it's going to be such a shitty game. please never play it.

[bjornbear]

seriously? you sound borderline mentally ill, does this matter to you? does it really matter? in the end does this change anything in your life?

I mean, will this actually detract from the game? its a difference of 800 to 756, which mathematically is 6.5% less cars...and we do not know if this means MORE premium cars.

its never been defined...

so, sure, we "gt5" fans should write a letter to PD denouncing this travesty, meanwhile, you 360 fans should write to MS for increasing the price of XBL, not changing the failure rate of your consoles and cutting down on exclusive games to direct funds towards KINECT which I bet you will totally buy day 1!

us gamers have to fight for our rights right?

[Jeremy Gerard]

Like I said, its just fun watching you guys behave like Sony's sock puppets.

On the other hand, believe me, I and most 360 fans have no trouble ripping MS a new one over things they screwed us on. I am no MS fanboy, I call it like I see it, if MS does somthing stupid I will call them on it. Its just that usually you have to stand in line to bash MS, everyone else is doing too. But with Sony, its the opposite, they are praised for their successes and mistakes alike, so we need more folks standing up to them,especially around here.

[PirateThom]

No, Microsoft can do what they want because they're delivering.... something.

Sony are only delivering GOTY contender after GOTY contender, but that's nothing compared to the lies of.... car numbers that were already listed as "700+"?

[Dee_91]

hmm i always read approx 800 and approx 250

maybe if you wasnt so quick to pick up on something negative to point out and talk down about ps3 owners and actually read more gt5 related articles you would understand why we are not phased buy 44 less cars dipshit
besides i never drove every car on all gts

[SoapShoes]

You ****ing fanboys, get out of here... The weather trailer and all of the info from GamesCom and TGS shut you up, but now you are here again trying to put the game down. I don't care what you think and I don't think Poly can do no wrong(I hated GT3 for its lack of content), but you're just pulling at straws here and no one is buying it. The fact that you have to hate on this game just shows you how awesome it is going to be(and yes it will be the best racing sim for any console).

[Blinding_Solo]

Maybe over time with some updates we will get more premium cars?

[kingteekej]

The "standard cars concept" pisses me off. It is confirmed that they wont have cockpit-view and that is a problem for me. The career mode, will in the beginning, be boring, till I get enough credits to buy a premium car just to get the cockpit view. That is not good. This means that it will be only 150 premium cars then?

[SoapShoes]

Wrong, they will have cockpits... It was confirmed that they will just be generic interiors.

[Richard_Hammond]

We here at Top Gear don't really care bout premium or standard cars aslong as they are IN THE GAME

[xg-ei8ht]

How Many fking cars do people want.

Seriously?

GT5 - Awesome cars,Awesome damage,Awesome Weather,Awesome amount of tracks.

= Awesome game!!

Now run off 360 guys and renew your live account.

[ZILLA]

in this line up!if they dont they have no idea how many people will be pissed off(period)

[bunfighterii]

People are too obsessed by the damage in this game. It's about racing, not crashing. May just be me but when I play gt games I try my hardest not to crash, and do a pretty damn good job of it :)

[kasasensei]

There are really people here, who think that some of the cars of gt5 come from gt4? rofl

"kancerkid + 8h ago
The standards cars are just upscaled from past games."

upscaled? lmao