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Bungie: Microsoft deserves respect

Microsoft’s most valuable development studio is leaving the company with a positive parting message.

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xYLeinen4980d ago

After seing Don Mattrick in an interview with GT they aren't getting any respect from me. Never seen a more arrogant front person of a company. Sure Sony got some arrogant people but they have calmed themselves this generation, but Don Mattrick takes the cake.

goldensfree4980d ago (Edited 4980d ago )

love laughing at super rich douchbags XD

Still no matter i got mad love for Halo n do hope Bungie can pull off even better now...

Conloles4980d ago

Microsoft deserve respect for creating the best gaming platform of all time ....

The PC!

Acquiescence4980d ago (Edited 4980d ago )

Conloles

The gaming site equivalent of a broken record.

@el zorro

I'm no fanboy dude. It's just that I own a PS3, 360, PC AND Wii, so I'm in a perfect position to state which gaming platform I think is the best. Plus it's worth noting that I got a 360 two years before I got a PS3.

el zorro4980d ago

As if you PS3 fanboys aren't a major broken record. You guys repeat the same nonsense over and over and over and over....

OneSneakyMofo4980d ago

Conloles, Microsoft didn't invent the PC. It's so sad to see an ignorant fanboy defend his platform of choice and not even known the history behind it.

darkmurder4980d ago (Edited 4980d ago )

I never said they invented it, I said that they deserve respect for creating the greatest gaming platform of all time. As far as I can tell nowhere in that sentence did I say Microsoft invented the PC, they just perfected the PC into the ultimate machine it is for games today.

I tell you PS3 fanboys look for anything to attack you on seeing as they have no substance considering their inferior platform has no benefits over PC.

beardpapa4980d ago (Edited 4980d ago )

"darkmurder + 5m ago
@OneSneakyMofo
I never said they invented it, I said that they deserve respect for creating the greatest gaming platform of all time. As far as I can tell nowhere in that sentence did I say Microsoft invented the PC, they just perfected the PC into the ultimate machine it is for games today.

I tell you PS3 fanboys look for anything to attack you on seeing as they have no substance considering their inferior platform has no benefits over PC."

multiple account confirmed! lol

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Lou-Cipher4980d ago

Yep, He definetly just got caught.

kerrak4980d ago

Nice catch beardpapa. I can't wait to read his "explanations" lol lol conloles

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lelo2play4979d ago

The best gaming platform is not the PC... it's Windows with DirectX :)

CernaML4979d ago

Oh man, darkmurder just failed BIG TIME.

mercsfan4979d ago (Edited 4979d ago )

Lol idiots, I can write in first person and act like somebody else too!

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T9X694980d ago

All fanboy shit aside, I think we can all agree as gamers Bobby Kotick takes the cake.

JohnApocalypse4980d ago

Couldn't agree with you more mate

DaBadGuy4980d ago

Oh god no doubt. People bitch about paying for Live but Kotick could make you pay on both consoles to play CoD online. And people will too. people will. I feel nervous about Bungie being in his hands now. I hope to god they are handled properly, but seeing Infinity Ward, anything can happen. Kotick is no better than the gum that I swallowed in 1998 that will stick in my bowels until the day I die.

Acquiescence4980d ago (Edited 4980d ago )

they got, as you say arrogant, and they suffered for it. But now they've straightened themselves out, become more humbled and have built up a catalogue of superb exclusives over the years and an excellent (plus free!) online service to make the PS3 the essential current-gen console (in my opinion of course). Right now I see Sony as the good guys, a reliable bunch.

Microsoft, especially at this point in time, do not deserve one iota of respect. They're starting to emulate Activision's business approach, which boils down to "HOW CAN WE SQUEEZE OUT MORE MONEEEEEEEEY FROM THIS PRODUCT!?!!?"

goldensfree4980d ago (Edited 4980d ago )

the next generation starts when we say it does... pure gold
still bought a ps3 in the end the games got me.
when i started playing warhawk i realized how much better psn was really for games. then resistance2 kz2 socom mag its a struggle keeping up. Missed a few games on the 360 tho aside from reach ill wait for them to hit the bin.

edit just fixed my comment not dissing on the 360 just not a lot of games i wanted since i got it at launch. Halo3 was fun for a while but between the lag cheats n everpresent grieffers (tho clan battles n playing with friend is epic fun) gears and 2 was broken from the start online(yeh 2 is a bit better now) cod was ok tho same as halo minus a bit of lag.

RedDead4980d ago (Edited 4980d ago )

I absolutely despised sony after the Ps3 was first release, I honestly believed the hype and does anyone remember the motostorm CG trailer to the actual game? They were worlds apart. It was more my fault because I thought those games were ingame and what the games would actually look like. They were showing the consoles hardware off with Cg video's . WtF sony?

It took up until 2008 till they got a game as good as Halo 3 or Gears 1. Atleast they have loads better than those 2(imo) now and they got their act together with Psn. MS might take another gen before they realise people see them as the "bad guys" of the gaming industry. Sony pretend they don't care about MS and barely mention the opposition. MS try and push it that they're "better" than Sony because they have sold more units.

I mean remember the last E3... all I saw was "we're sorry for having such a shitty conferance so here's some free 360's :), now clap so the world can see how generous we are. No don't stop, keep claping"

lynch4980d ago

man i payed around 750 euro to get set up with the ps3 at launch,(witch would be about $1000 usd)man was i "GUTTED"

Denethor_II4980d ago

I agree, but with that arrogance came the best console on the market. Without that arrogance maybe we would all still have DVD players as our entertainment hub.

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dredgewalker4979d ago

Funny thing about Conloles that even if he has other accounts he still gets one bubble to reply and has to login and out just for that. Why can't people just take care of one account. Anyway that's professionalism if you depart with good words to your employer.

JLeVRT4979d ago

MS doesnt deserve any for increasing the price of live for no reason... AND THEY STILL DONT HAVE AN INTERNET BROSWER!

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N4GAddict4980d ago

Can't wait to see Bungie's new franchise

Bobbykotickrulesz4980d ago (Edited 4980d ago )

We already know that they can make a shooter so I hope it's not a FPS.

Let's see what other kinds of games they can make.

ZombieAutopsy4980d ago

It'll most likely be a FPS, they signed with Activision after all and they don't seem to like much else unless it's licensed material. I'm hoping to get an RPG out of them though as I think they could do wonders with one.

KiRBY30004980d ago

i would be really surprised if Bungie's new IP is something else than an FPS.

nsnsmj4979d ago

Same here. I hope it's not a shooter. At least not an FPS. Third-person would be cool, but it is still a shooter. A Bungie Action RPG would make me very happy.

RedDead4980d ago

I would but every E3 the seem so arrogant. And I really dislike this guy http://assets.vg247.com/cur...
The one on the right. He just seems like he thinks he's the man and his console is the best shit on the street

LeeRoyJenkins4980d ago (Edited 4980d ago )

Yes, I agree Bungie. Microsoft does deserve their respect, as the number one console for true gamers this generation. Well played Bungie always show respect to the people that made you.

RedDragan4980d ago

Win 3.1 - Good
Win 95 - Sh1t
Win 98 - Sh1t
Win 2000 - Ultra Sh1t
Win ME - Ultra Ultra Sh1t
Win XP - Ok
Win Vista - Ultra Ultra Ultra Sh1t
Win 7 - Good
Xbox - 2x bigger than NES
Xbox 360 - Breaks

Why on earth should I give microsoft any sort of respect?

Oner4979d ago

I agree with you on most accounts but Windows 2000 was definitely not crappy. It was the first real stable OS MS ever came out with. But either way MS should not get any sort of respect knowing how they were founded, what they have continued to do over the years & to top it all off how they got/get away with the continual problems that 360's have.

lonix4980d ago

Microsoft just came along for the ride

KiRBY30004980d ago

3 teenagers agreed with LeeRoy so far.

Fishy Fingers4980d ago

Well there both owe each other a lot. Since they forged (pun) their relationship bungie have become one of the biggest developers in the world and their games allowed MS to become a major player in the console market. It could of been very different had the not crossed paths.

CBaoth4980d ago

Just too bad MS didn't treat the rest of their studios with the same amount of respect.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere6h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN3h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos57m ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

PassNextquestion5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger3h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto5h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos4h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel4h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator3h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref10d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde10d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref10d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan10d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0079d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref10d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde10d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman10d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts9d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Destiny 2: The Final Shape Developer Gameplay Preview

Bungie - "Join our development team to see the new updates arriving with Destiny 2: The Final Shape. Releasing on June 4, 2024."

InUrFoxHole14d ago

What is this she/her, he/him bs?